“Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

Okay there, tiger. Why should we care? Logic says he’s lying.

(09-17-2023 08:52 PM)Todor Wrote:  “Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

So they were just floating a balloon over our country for fun??? These people think we are stupid.

(09-17-2023 09:15 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 08:52 PM)Todor Wrote:  “Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

So they were just floating a balloon over our country for fun??? These people think we are stupid.

Half of us are

(09-17-2023 09:15 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 08:52 PM)Todor Wrote:  “Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

So they were just floating a balloon over our country for fun??? These people think we are stupid.

Not just "floating a balloon" but steering it in a zig-zag route to make it cross over several strategic military installations.

No straight answers about anything from our government or military. They say whatever sways the public to their current goal. And almost everybody falls for it every single time.

Why does anyone still trust anything they say when a few months later they are likely to say the exact opposite?

(09-17-2023 11:07 PM)Todor Wrote:  No straight answers about anything from our government or military. They say whatever sways the public to their current goal. And almost everybody falls for it every single time.

Why does anyone still trust anything they say when a few months later they are likely to say the exact opposite?

lol---How would they know anything about that spy baloon? They cant even find their own F-35 in S Carolina. Pretty sure they are not very stealthy after they smash into the ground at 700mph.

(09-17-2023 10:47 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 09:15 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 08:52 PM)Todor Wrote:  “Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

So they were just floating a balloon over our country for fun??? These people think we are stupid.

Not just "floating a balloon" but steering it in a zig-zag route to make it cross over several strategic military installations.

THIS.

China owns both "Big Guy" Biden* and his drug-addled son so they simply decided to prove it on the world stage by casually floating a spy balloon across the USA for a full week. As ODU accurately noted, the early February spy balloon just happened to sail over several US military installations.

Now military lap dog Milley steps out to proclaim China "wasn't spying". Of course not, Milley - and this Administration's exit out of Afghanistan was an unmitigated success as well! Especially leaving Bagram AB to China - absolute brilliance!

This corrupt and compromised Administration specializes at peddling complete bull$h1t.

(09-18-2023 05:21 AM)boss man Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 10:47 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 09:15 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 08:52 PM)Todor Wrote:  “Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

So they were just floating a balloon over our country for fun??? These people think we are stupid.

Not just "floating a balloon" but steering it in a zig-zag route to make it cross over several strategic military installations.

THIS.

China owns both "Big Guy" Biden* and his drug-addled son so they simply decided to prove it on the world stage by casually floating a spy balloon across the USA for a full week. As ODU accurately noted, the early February spy balloon just happened to sail over several US military installations.

Now military lap dog Milley steps out to proclaim China "wasn't spying". Of course not, Milley - and this Administration's exit out of Afghanistan was an unmitigated success as well! Especially leaving Bagram AB to China - absolute brilliance!

This corrupt and compromised Administration specializes at peddling complete bull$h1t.

There is an alternative POV on this - which IMHO makes a lot more sense. That view is the spy balloon wasn't meant to embarrass the U.S. - it was meant to embarrass Chairman Xi. While Xi is the clear cut man in charge of the CCP, there are still factions that oppose him within the CCP and perhaps more probable it might be some generals and admirals in the PLA.

Clown

Good gosh. These people really think we're as big of idiots as they are.

(09-18-2023 06:22 AM)miko33 Wrote:  There is an alternative POV on this - which IMHO makes a lot more sense. That view is the spy balloon wasn't meant to embarrass the U.S. - it was meant to embarrass Chairman Xi. While Xi is the clear cut man in charge of the CCP, there are still factions that oppose him within the CCP and perhaps more probable it might be some generals and admirals in the PLA.

This whole episode may, indeed, have emerged from PRC’s factional rivalries and infighting. Even if true, how does that corroborate Milley’s statement that the balloon did not serve any intel/espionage purpose?

(09-18-2023 08:12 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 06:22 AM)miko33 Wrote:  There is an alternative POV on this - which IMHO makes a lot more sense. That view is the spy balloon wasn't meant to embarrass the U.S. - it was meant to embarrass Chairman Xi. While Xi is the clear cut man in charge of the CCP, there are still factions that oppose him within the CCP and perhaps more probable it might be some generals and admirals in the PLA.

This whole episode may, indeed, have emerged from PRC’s factional rivalries and infighting. Even if true, how does that corroborate Milley’s statement that the balloon did not serve any intel/espionage purpose?

IMHO, this isn't even news. It's a throwaway statement meant to make regular people feel okay. The reality is when ever something like this happens - we should always assume the worst and learn from previous mistakes.

(09-18-2023 09:06 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 08:12 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  This whole episode may, indeed, have emerged from PRC’s factional rivalries and infighting. Even if true, how does that corroborate Milley’s statement that the balloon did not serve any intel/espionage purpose?

IMHO, this isn't even news. It's a throwaway statement meant to make regular people feel okay.

That’s not too far off the mark, I suppose. But I do take a darker view. I think Milley's statement is designed to protect the Biden Admin. from the consequences of its negligence and incompetence by having a military officer personally step forward and say “nothing to see here, move along.” To be sure, Milley’s own hard-earned reputation as a useless political hack greatly undermines whatever “protection” he seeks to give. But still.

Quote:The reality is when ever something like this happens - we should always assume the worst and learn from previous mistakes.

If only America’s leadership (military, political, corporate, academic) was capable of doing that.

How would Milley know?

(09-18-2023 06:22 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-18-2023 05:21 AM)boss man Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 10:47 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 09:15 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 08:52 PM)Todor Wrote:  “Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

So they were just floating a balloon over our country for fun??? These people think we are stupid.

Not just "floating a balloon" but steering it in a zig-zag route to make it cross over several strategic military installations.

THIS.

China owns both "Big Guy" Biden* and his drug-addled son so they simply decided to prove it on the world stage by casually floating a spy balloon across the USA for a full week. As ODU accurately noted, the early February spy balloon just happened to sail over several US military installations.

Now military lap dog Milley steps out to proclaim China "wasn't spying". Of course not, Milley - and this Administration's exit out of Afghanistan was an unmitigated success as well! Especially leaving Bagram AB to China - absolute brilliance!

This corrupt and compromised Administration specializes at peddling complete bull$h1t.

There is an alternative POV on this - which IMHO makes a lot more sense. That view is the spy balloon wasn't meant to embarrass the U.S. - it was meant to embarrass Chairman Xi. While Xi is the clear cut man in charge of the CCP, there are still factions that oppose him within the CCP and perhaps more probable it might be some generals and admirals in the PLA.

Interesting alternative perspective.

Hmmmm....this could be a rare 2 for 1 event. It exposed both Xi and Biden*.

(09-18-2023 10:38 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  How would Milley know?

To play the Devil’s Advocate, iirc they recovered the business end of the balloon array. Maybe they could determine what China could access based on what they found?

The balloon was for research on America Exterior decoration ideas...

You know, like flowers, use of greenspace etc....

(09-17-2023 08:52 PM)Todor Wrote:  “Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

Milley should have been drawn and quartered for the afghan withdraw that led to the slaughter of numerous young soldiers. A total a$$ clown. Woke brain dead criminal idiot.

(09-17-2023 09:25 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 09:15 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  

(09-17-2023 08:52 PM)Todor Wrote:  “Now, seven months later, Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tells "CBS News Sunday Morning" the balloon wasn't spying. "The intelligence community, their assessment – and it's a high-confidence assessment – [is] that there was no intelligence collection by that balloon," he said.“

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-bizarre...y-balloon/

So which is it? Does anyone actually know anything? Or do we just live in a world of media hype, contradictory statements and confusion?

So they were just floating a balloon over our country for fun??? These people think we are stupid.

Half of us are