(08-26-2023 08:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

I wonder if the tune of the resident mascots here will change now that he's not just talking about the left as they assumed

I never thought he was talking about the left.

In case you haven't noticed, and it's pretty obvious that you're not smart enough to notice, most of us "mascots" think that prog filth knows no particular political party, creed, or color.

Seems to me that this guy whose song hit a nerve is either confused or just plain unable to voice what he really means. If the song is about ALL politicians, then SAY SO, dummie!

Not surprised that the right latches onto the song, thinking it is about Biden and the left. Or the left, in reaction, demonizes it. If he wrote a song believing it against the political class as the problem, then make that clear. If, as it sounds, he is a centrist, then TELL people that he believes that far right and far left IS the problem.

His problem is that he has not told us clearly where he stands and what the song is supposed to convey. People are interpreting it according to what they believe.

I'm culturally on the right and despise the race and gender politics of the left but I think the BS neoliberal economics both major parties promote have only enriched China and rich Americans while life seems to get less affordable for most Americans.

That's why I find the success of this song interesting. If the whole point is "Biden's economy amiright" I think that's not seeing the whole picture but I'm not really sure many are seeing it that way.

(08-26-2023 12:14 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I'm culturally on the right and despise the race and gender politics of the left but I think the BS neoliberal economics both major parties promote have only enriched China and rich Americans while life seems to get less affordable for most Americans.

That's why I find the success of this song interesting. If the whole point is "Biden's economy amiright" I think that's not seeing the whole picture but I'm not really sure many are seeing it that way.

I seem to recall a lot lower living expenses and wages keeping up with cost just a short few years ago....

like 3 years ago.

Tell me what was the price of gas, a pound of meat, a Mc'D meal, a home, rent if you did not own, interest rates if you were buying a home, utilities, property tax, basically every item you need to live to the standard you were use to living? Those things all increased to sky high cost under Biden's economy.

So I'm calling bullshite on not seeing the whole picture. Might not been perfect before but it sure as hell got a lot worse.

it sure as hell sounds like this song is talking about those things. I just dont think he's sharp enough to understand that or maybe he was talking about those "politicians" on that stage and the democrats. It sure as hell doesn't sound like he was talking about Trump who was fighting against most of that.

Chorus:
Livin' in the new world / With an old soul / These rich men north of Richmond / Lord knows they all just wanna have total control / Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do / And they don't think you know, but I know that you do / 'Cause your dollar ain't **** and it's taxed to no end / 'Cause of rich men north of Richmond.

I wish politicians would look out for miners / And not just minors on an island somewhere / Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat / And the obese milkin' welfare.

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds / Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds / Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground / 'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down.

(08-26-2023 08:42 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 08:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

I wonder if the tune of the resident mascots here will change now that he's not just talking about the left as they assumed

Please point out where anyone said he was just talking about the left. I’ll hang up and wait.

My take is it is/was an indictment of the entire DeeCee ruling class.

When’s the last time any of these public sector grifters were held accountable for damn near anything?

They claim a mud puddle on a pig farm is “navigable water” so they can either claim it or regulate it, who’s gonna be able to fight that? The pig farmer?

Sure. And he’ll go broke in the process. These people produce actual nothing, yet are paid handsomely “Rich men” and wield ridiculous power and influence.

You almost lost your cat. GFY

(08-26-2023 02:03 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  My take is it is/was an indictment of the entire DeeCee ruling class.

The fat cat bureaucrats who don't know one f-ing thing about life outside the Beltway, or a least beyond their northern Virginia and southern Maryland suburbs. There's a reason why the top three counties in the USA for average household income, and 7 of the top 12, are in the DC metro area--and it's not because they are adding value or doing anything useful.

How many of you have ever dealt with them on a regular basis? They don't know--or care--how things are in the rest of the country. My career first, my agency second, my country a distant third.

Remember the text exhanges between Strzok and his squeeze? That really is how they think. My way, and the American people can go f-k themselves. They really believe that they have the God-given right--and duty--to override the will of the American people.

(08-11-2023 12:27 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:00 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  I wish it was North of Richmond, but with the complete destruction of the beautiful Monument Ave in Richmond, the city is not the same. That street, with statues reminding us of our past and statues reminding us of more recent events, was dismantled in the misnomered "Summer of Love" by a very racist and divisive Mayor and Governor. What this singer does is capture a very blue-collar hardworking nerve that still resides in Richmond, as we still have lots of industry here.

Most people just want to be left alone to live their lives as they choose. It is a shame that the percentage of such folks is on the decline, in favor of those folks pushing for equal outcomes minus equal talent nor effort to get there.

You do get that the song is talking about Washington DC, right?

It is not just politicians he is talking about. It is also these millionaires and billionaires that are giving money to the politicians to do what the rich people wants, and not the people. This is also an anti-Trump and an anti-Biden song.

(08-26-2023 03:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 12:27 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:00 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  I wish it was North of Richmond, but with the complete destruction of the beautiful Monument Ave in Richmond, the city is not the same. That street, with statues reminding us of our past and statues reminding us of more recent events, was dismantled in the misnomered "Summer of Love" by a very racist and divisive Mayor and Governor. What this singer does is capture a very blue-collar hardworking nerve that still resides in Richmond, as we still have lots of industry here.

Most people just want to be left alone to live their lives as they choose. It is a shame that the percentage of such folks is on the decline, in favor of those folks pushing for equal outcomes minus equal talent nor effort to get there.

You do get that the song is talking about Washington DC, right?

It is not just politicians he is talking about. It is also these millionaires and billionaires that are giving money to the politicians to do what the rich people wants, and not the people. This is also an anti-Trump and an anti-Biden song.

point to the words that make this about Trump? Other than Rich I dont see one word that is pointed at the former president. Lets be clear about when he is using that word, rich. He's mainly talking about those getting rich off of being a politician. That's not Trump.

(08-26-2023 11:36 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Seems to me that this guy whose song hit a nerve is either confused or just plain unable to voice what he really means. If the song is about ALL politicians, then SAY SO, dummie!

Not surprised that the right latches onto the song, thinking it is about Biden and the left. Or the left, in reaction, demonizes it. If he wrote a song believing it against the political class as the problem, then make that clear. If, as it sounds, he is a centrist, then TELL people that he believes that far right and far left IS the problem.

His problem is that he has not told us clearly where he stands and what the song is supposed to convey. People are interpreting it according to what they believe.

I got the meaning of the song long before he came out saying it. I got it as an attack of the politicians and big fat cats of the evil corporations that give money to the politicians. I took it as an anti-Biden and anti-Trump song and about everybody else. Look were all the poverty states are at? Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, etc. Those are states run by Republicans. These are at the bottom of the country in health care, a lot of food islands, education, etc. Small towns have lost their post offices, grocery stores, hospitals, doctors, etc. People have to take their kids to school like a town like 60 miles away as some schools are closed down as they merged with another school in the same district in the county. Republicans are afraid to tax the rich men to help invest into schools, health care, infrastructures etc for their states. Who winds up suffering from lack of education, health care, etc? The working hard class people and low income families.

(08-26-2023 08:42 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 08:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

I wonder if the tune of the resident mascots here will change now that he's not just talking about the left as they assumed

Dummy; he was talking about DC in general and if specific……. the Uniparty

(08-26-2023 03:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 03:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 12:27 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:00 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  I wish it was North of Richmond, but with the complete destruction of the beautiful Monument Ave in Richmond, the city is not the same. That street, with statues reminding us of our past and statues reminding us of more recent events, was dismantled in the misnomered "Summer of Love" by a very racist and divisive Mayor and Governor. What this singer does is capture a very blue-collar hardworking nerve that still resides in Richmond, as we still have lots of industry here.

Most people just want to be left alone to live their lives as they choose. It is a shame that the percentage of such folks is on the decline, in favor of those folks pushing for equal outcomes minus equal talent nor effort to get there.

You do get that the song is talking about Washington DC, right?

It is not just politicians he is talking about. It is also these millionaires and billionaires that are giving money to the politicians to do what the rich people wants, and not the people. This is also an anti-Trump and an anti-Biden song.

point to the words that make this about Trump? Other than Rich I dont see one word that is pointed at the former president. Lets be clear about when he is using that word, rich. He's mainly talking about those getting rich off of being a politician. That's not Trump.

There have been many people who were already rich that ran for office in both parties besides Trump. They happened to be in both parties. Trump got rich not just from money, but from the hunger of power and all that. He did pit people against one against the other in his speeches.

(08-26-2023 03:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 03:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 03:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 12:27 AM)banker Wrote:  

(08-10-2023 10:00 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  I wish it was North of Richmond, but with the complete destruction of the beautiful Monument Ave in Richmond, the city is not the same. That street, with statues reminding us of our past and statues reminding us of more recent events, was dismantled in the misnomered "Summer of Love" by a very racist and divisive Mayor and Governor. What this singer does is capture a very blue-collar hardworking nerve that still resides in Richmond, as we still have lots of industry here.

Most people just want to be left alone to live their lives as they choose. It is a shame that the percentage of such folks is on the decline, in favor of those folks pushing for equal outcomes minus equal talent nor effort to get there.

You do get that the song is talking about Washington DC, right?

It is not just politicians he is talking about. It is also these millionaires and billionaires that are giving money to the politicians to do what the rich people wants, and not the people. This is also an anti-Trump and an anti-Biden song.

point to the words that make this about Trump? Other than Rich I dont see one word that is pointed at the former president. Lets be clear about when he is using that word, rich. He's mainly talking about those getting rich off of being a politician. That's not Trump.

There have been many people who were already rich that ran for office in both parties besides Trump. They happened to be in both parties. Trump got rich not just from money, but from the hunger of power and all that. He did pit people against one against the other in his speeches.

I asked you one question, show me the words in this song that that make this about Trump. As far as "pitting people against one another" he's talking about politics.

here's the whole song show me in your wisdom the part that is Anti-Trump?

"Rich Men North Of Richmond"

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bull**** pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't **** and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't **** and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bull**** pay


Is it the part about this new world? Trump was trying to take us back to that old one...Americans first with jobs like his dad or grandfather probably had that you could raise a family on.

How about helping miners? Is that Anti-Trump?

Cutting out waste on welfare. Is that Anti-Trump?

Or how about taxing his dollar? As a single person under Trump he was not taxed on the first 18k a 6k increase or at the lowest tax bracket of 10% that put $50 a week into his pocket that was going to taxes before Trump.

Maybe its about those politicians that wants total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do. Does that sound like Trump tried to put in place? Or Trump was fighting?

You must mean..."Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down". That must be the Anti-Trump part? It's not like Trump ran on and tried to actually bring back jobs like this guy is talking about. Or help and respect those young people serving to protect this country

Stop making shite up and prove your words because his whole song looks like its basically was taking from what Trump ran on and won on in 2016

(08-26-2023 03:51 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 03:27 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 03:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 03:14 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 12:27 AM)banker Wrote:  You do get that the song is talking about Washington DC, right?

It is not just politicians he is talking about. It is also these millionaires and billionaires that are giving money to the politicians to do what the rich people wants, and not the people. This is also an anti-Trump and an anti-Biden song.

point to the words that make this about Trump? Other than Rich I dont see one word that is pointed at the former president. Lets be clear about when he is using that word, rich. He's mainly talking about those getting rich off of being a politician. That's not Trump.

There have been many people who were already rich that ran for office in both parties besides Trump. They happened to be in both parties. Trump got rich not just from money, but from the hunger of power and all that. He did pit people against one against the other in his speeches.

I asked you one question, show me the words in this song that that make this about Trump. As far as "pitting people against one another" he's talking about politics.

here's the whole song show me in your wisdom the part that is Anti-Trump?

"Rich Men North Of Richmond"

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bull**** pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't **** and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I wish politicians would look out for miners
And not just minors on an island somewhere
Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothin' to eat
And the obese milkin' welfare

Well, God, if you're 5-foot-3 and you're 300 pounds
Taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds
Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down

Lord, it's a damn shame what the world's gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin' in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don't think you know, but I know that you do
'Cause your dollar ain't **** and it's taxed to no end
'Cause of rich men north of Richmond

I've been sellin' my soul, workin' all day
Overtime hours for bull**** pay


Is it the part about this new world? Trump was trying to take us back to that old one...Americans first with jobs like his dad or grandfather probably had that you could raise a family on.

How about helping miners? Is that Anti-Trump?

Cutting out waste on welfare. Is that Anti-Trump?

Or how about taxing his dollar? As a single person under Trump he was not taxed on the first 18k a 6k increase or at the lowest tax bracket of 10% that put $50 a week into his pocket that was going to taxes before Trump.

Maybe its about those politicians that wants total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do. Does that sound like Trump tried to put in place? Or Trump was fighting?

You must mean..."Young men are puttin' themselves six feet in the ground
'Cause all this damn country does is keep on kickin' them down". That must be the Anti-Trump part? It's not like Trump ran on and tried to actually bring back jobs like this guy is talking about. Or help and respect those young people serving to protect this country

Stop making shite up and prove your words because his whole song looks like its basically was taking from what Trump ran on and won on in 2016

Who do you think bought the politicians out and running this country? The rich men like Trump, Soros, Gates, etc to have the it in their favor. They are the ones who are running this country. It is nothing but lip service by both parties including Trump just to get elected, and nothing will get down because of the 1% is running this country.

(08-26-2023 08:42 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 08:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

I wonder if the tune of the resident mascots here will change now that he's not just talking about the left as they assumed

Pull your head of out wherever you got it stuck. None of us have mentioned a party, as Mr. Anthony puts it, this is not about a political party but the rich folks in DC making policies for us and not them... Take the blinders off. Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats.. Can you say the opposite? Can you say that Democrats are just as guilty as Republicans?

(08-26-2023 08:42 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-26-2023 08:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

I wonder if the tune of the resident mascots here will change now that he's not just talking about the left as they assumed

Why would anyone's tune change? Dude was talking about ALL politicians, not just one party. Only a partisan hack would have thought otherwise.

I think what he is saying about republicans is that as long as they go along with the establishment, he has no use for them either.

I want to see some party take the side of common sense against elite intellectual experts with no real world experience. It won't be democrats, and I am becoming more annoyed every day by the failure of republicans to do so.

Listening to Pandora Radio this morning and guess what's playing right this minute? Nice.