(08-12-2023 07:45 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  It's pretty simple.

Merge the PAC 4 and the AAC.

Split the conference and call it East & West.

Put the PAC 4 with Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, Rice, and Navy. Why Navy? The original agreement with the league and Navy is they wanted to be in the West because they come from all over as a national institution. Otherwise western travel is minimized except for Navy and another crossover if required.

From there grow it from an excellent starting point in status plus you have all time zones covered. It's a go to model in good TV markets with the best platform in sports.

Adds can come at the appropriate time or now if it can be worked out financially.

This makes the most sense from a money and feasibility standpoint. Most importantly you have an existing media partner in the ESPN who would absolutely pay up for this.

Why the love affair with Tulsa? I mean I know they are private school but their ranking academically isn't what you would think considering the tuition.

(08-11-2023 04:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:59 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:07 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Nothing they can do will net the Pac4 rebuild Big10/SEC/ACC/Big12 dollars. The point is to create a home they can live with that produces as much or more revenue than going to the MW or AAC. I think they can accomplish that fairly easily. This is what I have been suggesting.

Stanford
Cal
OSU
WSU
Rice
SMU
Tulsa
SDSU
Air Force
Boise

Plus---Gonzaga as a non-football addition

Every school except Boise is an academically elite institution. The footprint is big--but not horrific. Ive only added one school simply for its athletic performance and TV value. The rest are academically top tier schools. I think this conference probably can net the schools something around 10 million each in TV money. It looks like they could be angling for something similar to what Ive mapped out.

$10M for that conference feels wildly optimistic.

The top G5 conference currently gets 7 million per team. That conference currently has just ONE school that has ever been an AQ or P5 team during its existence. The Pac4 has 4 schools that are current P5 members---and is looking to add two more schools that were both seriously vetted by 2 or more P5 conferences (SDSU and SMU). Thats a pretty solid start toward a 10 million a team non-power conference.

This is misleading if by "top G5 conference" you mean the AAC, A-Coog.

Though prior to what we now call the P5 and AQ, SMU, Rice, USF, Tulane, Temple and Memphis were affiliated with high-profile leagues.

One season in the BCS AAC doesn't really count for Memphis. SMU, Rice and Tulane had decades. Temple and USF had about a dozen years.

I was not clear in my post, Bullet — and I agree with you fully regarding the one year the AAC was in the BCS should not count for Memphis. I was referencing Memphis having been a member of the defunct Metro Conference in the 1970s and 1980s. Though not sponsoring football, that was a strong league that likely would be considered "power" in men's hoops if it existed today.

And thanks for the kind words in your subsequent post.

Bill

(08-11-2023 03:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:59 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:07 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Nothing they can do will net the Pac4 rebuild Big10/SEC/ACC/Big12 dollars. The point is to create a home they can live with that produces as much or more revenue than going to the MW or AAC. I think they can accomplish that fairly easily. This is what I have been suggesting.

Stanford
Cal
OSU
WSU
Rice
SMU
Tulsa
SDSU
Air Force
Boise

Plus---Gonzaga as a non-football addition

Every school except Boise is an academically elite institution. The footprint is big--but not horrific. Ive only added one school simply for its athletic performance and TV value. The rest are academically top tier schools. I think this conference probably can net the schools something around 10 million each in TV money. It looks like they could be angling for something similar to what Ive mapped out.

$10M for that conference feels wildly optimistic.

The top G5 conference currently gets 7 million per team. That conference currently has just ONE school that has ever been an AQ or P5 team during its existence. The Pac4 has 4 schools that are current P5 members---and is looking to add two more schools that were both seriously vetted by 2 or more P5 conferences (SDSU and SMU). Thats a pretty solid start toward a 10 million a team non-power conference.

This is misleading if by "top G5 conference" you mean the AAC, A-Coog.

Though prior to what we now call the P5 and AQ, SMU, Rice, USF, Tulane, Temple and Memphis were affiliated with high-profile leagues.

The BCS began in the late 1990's. None of those teams other than USF were ever in a BCS AQ league or a CFP "contract conference" during that period. The 4 Pac4 teams were included as cartel members for the entire duration of both playoff systems to date. Thats what Im referring to. Fair or not---being a cartel member has given those schools a near three decade reputational boost.

Fair and accurate point, A-Coog. I was simply trying to note that those six schools have a history of having been affiliated with high-profile leagues. And, that, in a general sense is one reason former Metro Conference member Memphis (on paper, at least) might have a better chance than otherwise of eventually landing in a more high-profile league than the current AAC.

(08-12-2023 09:57 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 07:45 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  It's pretty simple.

Merge the PAC 4 and the AAC.

Split the conference and call it East & West.

Put the PAC 4 with Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, Rice, and Navy. Why Navy? The original agreement with the league and Navy is they wanted to be in the West because they come from all over as a national institution. Otherwise western travel is minimized except for Navy and another crossover if required.

From there grow it from an excellent starting point in status plus you have all time zones covered. It's a go to model in good TV markets with the best platform in sports.

Adds can come at the appropriate time or now if it can be worked out financially.

This makes the most sense from a money and feasibility standpoint. Most importantly you have an existing media partner in the ESPN who would absolutely pay up for this.

I've also seen where an additional media partner could be brought to the table along with ESPN enhancing the deal because of the multiple schools and time slots brought to the table. I'm sure Aresco, Luck, and the P4 can maximize this opportunity which in my opinion is the best one for the future of all parties involved. Beyond this in the future I'd love to have all the academy's added in AFA & Army.

(08-12-2023 10:08 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 03:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:59 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:07 PM)msu35 Wrote:  $10M for that conference feels wildly optimistic.

The top G5 conference currently gets 7 million per team. That conference currently has just ONE school that has ever been an AQ or P5 team during its existence. The Pac4 has 4 schools that are current P5 members---and is looking to add two more schools that were both seriously vetted by 2 or more P5 conferences (SDSU and SMU). Thats a pretty solid start toward a 10 million a team non-power conference.

This is misleading if by "top G5 conference" you mean the AAC, A-Coog.

Though prior to what we now call the P5 and AQ, SMU, Rice, USF, Tulane, Temple and Memphis were affiliated with high-profile leagues.

The BCS began in the late 1990's. None of those teams other than USF were ever in a BCS AQ league or a CFP "contract conference" during that period. The 4 Pac4 teams were included as cartel members for the entire duration of both playoff systems to date. Thats what Im referring to. Fair or not---being a cartel member has given those schools a near three decade reputational boost.

Fair and accurate point, A-Coog. I was simply trying to note that those six schools have a history of having been affiliated with high-profile leagues. And, that, in a general sense is one reason former Metro Conference member Memphis (on paper, at least) might have a better chance than otherwise of eventually landing in a more high-profile league than the current AAC.

Memphis has done a great job of building its athletics programs and fan base. They are typically viewed as being among the top P5 expansion targets in the G5. This Pac4 rebuild is an odd duck situation where geography works against them. Worse yet, this rather unique Pac4 leadership just doesn’t particularly value what Memphis has to offer. I still think Memphis eventually gets the call up—-likely as a P5 replacement if either the Big12 or ACC loses schools to the P2.

(08-12-2023 10:04 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 04:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:59 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:07 PM)msu35 Wrote:  $10M for that conference feels wildly optimistic.

The top G5 conference currently gets 7 million per team. That conference currently has just ONE school that has ever been an AQ or P5 team during its existence. The Pac4 has 4 schools that are current P5 members---and is looking to add two more schools that were both seriously vetted by 2 or more P5 conferences (SDSU and SMU). Thats a pretty solid start toward a 10 million a team non-power conference.

This is misleading if by "top G5 conference" you mean the AAC, A-Coog.

Though prior to what we now call the P5 and AQ, SMU, Rice, USF, Tulane, Temple and Memphis were affiliated with high-profile leagues.

One season in the BCS AAC doesn't really count for Memphis. SMU, Rice and Tulane had decades. Temple and USF had about a dozen years.

I was not clear in my post, Bullet — and I agree with you fully regarding the one year the AAC was in the BCS should not count for Memphis. I was referencing Memphis having been a member of the defunct Metro Conference in the 1970s and 1980s. Though not sponsoring football, that was a strong league that likely would be considered "power" in men's hoops if it existed today.

And thanks for the kind words in your subsequent post.

Bill

In basketball, it was the equivalent of today's Big East, so I grant you that. For that matter, the 70s MVC was a power basketball conference.

I thought you were talking about football.

(08-12-2023 10:57 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:08 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 03:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:59 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The top G5 conference currently gets 7 million per team. That conference currently has just ONE school that has ever been an AQ or P5 team during its existence. The Pac4 has 4 schools that are current P5 members---and is looking to add two more schools that were both seriously vetted by 2 or more P5 conferences (SDSU and SMU). Thats a pretty solid start toward a 10 million a team non-power conference.

This is misleading if by "top G5 conference" you mean the AAC, A-Coog.

Though prior to what we now call the P5 and AQ, SMU, Rice, USF, Tulane, Temple and Memphis were affiliated with high-profile leagues.

The BCS began in the late 1990's. None of those teams other than USF were ever in a BCS AQ league or a CFP "contract conference" during that period. The 4 Pac4 teams were included as cartel members for the entire duration of both playoff systems to date. Thats what Im referring to. Fair or not---being a cartel member has given those schools a near three decade reputational boost.

Fair and accurate point, A-Coog. I was simply trying to note that those six schools have a history of having been affiliated with high-profile leagues. And, that, in a general sense is one reason former Metro Conference member Memphis (on paper, at least) might have a better chance than otherwise of eventually landing in a more high-profile league than the current AAC.

Memphis has done a great job of building its athletics programs and fan base. They are typically viewed as being among the top P5 expansion targets in the G5. This Pac4 rebuild is an odd duck situation where geography works against them. Worse yet, this rather unique Pac4 leadership just doesn’t particularly value what Memphis has to offer. I still think Memphis eventually gets the call up—-likely as a P5 replacement if either the Big12 or ACC loses schools to the P2.

Memphis's problem has always been its academic standing, which is lower than any of the current P5 and its reputation, deserved or not, for cheating.

To me, they seemed like they had a better possibility of succeeding at the P5 level than any non-P school other than BYU. When they are successful they can put 40k in the stands. Memphis has always supported football. They were one of the most successful USFL and WFL franchises in fan support. And, of course, they have a strong, well supported basketball program. And only one pro team in town and hundreds of miles separating them from the Enormous State University of their state.

(08-12-2023 12:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  Memphis's problem has always been its academic standing, which is lower than any of the current P5 and its reputation, deserved or not, for cheating.

Cheating? Memphis has done nothing compared to the media and conference darlings who continue to get propped up and have everything glossed over. It's time for that tired trope to go away.

(08-12-2023 10:57 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:08 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 03:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:59 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The top G5 conference currently gets 7 million per team. That conference currently has just ONE school that has ever been an AQ or P5 team during its existence. The Pac4 has 4 schools that are current P5 members---and is looking to add two more schools that were both seriously vetted by 2 or more P5 conferences (SDSU and SMU). Thats a pretty solid start toward a 10 million a team non-power conference.

This is misleading if by "top G5 conference" you mean the AAC, A-Coog.

Though prior to what we now call the P5 and AQ, SMU, Rice, USF, Tulane, Temple and Memphis were affiliated with high-profile leagues.

The BCS began in the late 1990's. None of those teams other than USF were ever in a BCS AQ league or a CFP "contract conference" during that period. The 4 Pac4 teams were included as cartel members for the entire duration of both playoff systems to date. Thats what Im referring to. Fair or not---being a cartel member has given those schools a near three decade reputational boost.

Fair and accurate point, A-Coog. I was simply trying to note that those six schools have a history of having been affiliated with high-profile leagues. And, that, in a general sense is one reason former Metro Conference member Memphis (on paper, at least) might have a better chance than otherwise of eventually landing in a more high-profile league than the current AAC.

Memphis has done a great job of building its athletics programs and fan base. They are typically viewed as being among the top P5 expansion targets in the G5. This Pac4 rebuild is an odd duck situation where geography works against them. Worse yet, this rather unique Pac4 leadership just doesn’t particularly value what Memphis has to offer. I still think Memphis eventually gets the call up—-likely as a P5 replacement if either the Big12 or ACC loses schools to the P2.

Geography and less-than-ideal academics will prevent Memphis from getting an invite to the rebuilt Pac (if that scenario unfolds). My hope is that Memphis stays the course, reinvents the Liberty Bowl in a dramatic way, keeps winning in football and then ... gets the invite to a prestigious league. There is no guarantee but the goal is worth the effort.

(08-12-2023 10:03 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why the love affair with Tulsa? I mean I know they are private school but their ranking academically isn't what you would think considering the tuition.

Tulsa needs to be booted from the AAC. I don't know how they are in FBS with how many students are enrolled.

(08-12-2023 12:08 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:04 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 04:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:59 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-11-2023 02:16 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The top G5 conference currently gets 7 million per team. That conference currently has just ONE school that has ever been an AQ or P5 team during its existence. The Pac4 has 4 schools that are current P5 members---and is looking to add two more schools that were both seriously vetted by 2 or more P5 conferences (SDSU and SMU). Thats a pretty solid start toward a 10 million a team non-power conference.

This is misleading if by "top G5 conference" you mean the AAC, A-Coog.

Though prior to what we now call the P5 and AQ, SMU, Rice, USF, Tulane, Temple and Memphis were affiliated with high-profile leagues.

One season in the BCS AAC doesn't really count for Memphis. SMU, Rice and Tulane had decades. Temple and USF had about a dozen years.

I was not clear in my post, Bullet — and I agree with you fully regarding the one year the AAC was in the BCS should not count for Memphis. I was referencing Memphis having been a member of the defunct Metro Conference in the 1970s and 1980s. Though not sponsoring football, that was a strong league that likely would be considered "power" in men's hoops if it existed today.

And thanks for the kind words in your subsequent post.

Bill

In basketball, it was the equivalent of today's Big East, so I grant you that. For that matter, the 70s MVC was a power basketball conference.

I thought you were talking about football.

I remember as a kid how strong the MVC was. It's one reason I am very pleased Belmont is now a member.

The Metro was highly respected in men's basketball back in the day, as it offered many strong programs and name coaches. Lots of dogfight games. From 1975 to 1991 (when Memphis and Cincy left to help form The Great Midwest), I likely watched as many Metro men's hoops games as I did SEC contests.

(08-12-2023 10:10 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 09:57 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 07:45 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  It's pretty simple.

Merge the PAC 4 and the AAC.

Split the conference and call it East & West.

Put the PAC 4 with Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, Rice, and Navy. Why Navy? The original agreement with the league and Navy is they wanted to be in the West because they come from all over as a national institution. Otherwise western travel is minimized except for Navy and another crossover if required.

From there grow it from an excellent starting point in status plus you have all time zones covered. It's a go to model in good TV markets with the best platform in sports.

Adds can come at the appropriate time or now if it can be worked out financially.

This makes the most sense from a money and feasibility standpoint. Most importantly you have an existing media partner in the ESPN who would absolutely pay up for this.

I've also seen where an additional media partner could be brought to the table along with ESPN enhancing the deal because of the multiple schools and time slots brought to the table. I'm sure Aresco, Luck, and the P4 can maximize this opportunity which in my opinion is the best one for the future of all parties involved. Beyond this in the future I'd love to have all the academy's added in AFA & Army.

Stanford will kill this as well. There are schools that Stanford don't want that are in the AAC as well. They will make demands that Tulsa, North Texas, FAU, UAB, ECU, Temple, Charlotte etc to be booted before a merger.

(08-12-2023 04:47 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:03 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why the love affair with Tulsa? I mean I know they are private school but their ranking academically isn't what you would think considering the tuition.

Tulsa needs to be booted from the AAC. I don't know how they are in FBS with how many students are enrolled.

Tulsa has a strong shared-league history with AAC members Wichita, North Texas and Memphis. The men's basketball program offers a respectable history and an underrated fan base. Tulsa's most recent U.S. News ranking was No. 137 (of national universities), which is very respectable. The university offers an endowment of almost $1.4 billion.

In short, DavidSt, Tulsa does not deserve to be expelled from the AAC.

(08-12-2023 04:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:10 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 09:57 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 07:45 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  It's pretty simple.

Merge the PAC 4 and the AAC.

Split the conference and call it East & West.

Put the PAC 4 with Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, Rice, and Navy. Why Navy? The original agreement with the league and Navy is they wanted to be in the West because they come from all over as a national institution. Otherwise western travel is minimized except for Navy and another crossover if required.

From there grow it from an excellent starting point in status plus you have all time zones covered. It's a go to model in good TV markets with the best platform in sports.

Adds can come at the appropriate time or now if it can be worked out financially.

This makes the most sense from a money and feasibility standpoint. Most importantly you have an existing media partner in the ESPN who would absolutely pay up for this.

I've also seen where an additional media partner could be brought to the table along with ESPN enhancing the deal because of the multiple schools and time slots brought to the table. I'm sure Aresco, Luck, and the P4 can maximize this opportunity which in my opinion is the best one for the future of all parties involved. Beyond this in the future I'd love to have all the academy's added in AFA & Army.

Stanford will kill this as well. There are schools that Stanford don't want that are in the AAC as well. They will make demands that Tulsa, North Texas, FAU, UAB, ECU, Temple, Charlotte etc to be booted before a merger.

If they don’t like ECU it’s only because they’re still sore over this:





This is about to be a conference game and I expect ECU to continue its dominance over the Cardinal Tree.

(08-12-2023 04:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:10 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 09:57 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 07:45 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  It's pretty simple.

Merge the PAC 4 and the AAC.

Split the conference and call it East & West.

Put the PAC 4 with Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, Rice, and Navy. Why Navy? The original agreement with the league and Navy is they wanted to be in the West because they come from all over as a national institution. Otherwise western travel is minimized except for Navy and another crossover if required.

From there grow it from an excellent starting point in status plus you have all time zones covered. It's a go to model in good TV markets with the best platform in sports.

Adds can come at the appropriate time or now if it can be worked out financially.

This makes the most sense from a money and feasibility standpoint. Most importantly you have an existing media partner in the ESPN who would absolutely pay up for this.

I've also seen where an additional media partner could be brought to the table along with ESPN enhancing the deal because of the multiple schools and time slots brought to the table. I'm sure Aresco, Luck, and the P4 can maximize this opportunity which in my opinion is the best one for the future of all parties involved. Beyond this in the future I'd love to have all the academy's added in AFA & Army.

Stanford will kill this as well. There are schools that Stanford don't want that are in the AAC as well. They will make demands that Tulsa, North Texas, FAU, UAB, ECU, Temple, Charlotte etc to be booted before a merger.

UAB? It wouldnt surprise me if Stanford and Cal demanded their inclusion.

(08-12-2023 04:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:10 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 09:57 AM)Owls9878 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 07:45 AM)Pirate Rep Wrote:  It's pretty simple.

Merge the PAC 4 and the AAC.

Split the conference and call it East & West.

Put the PAC 4 with Tulane, Tulsa, SMU, Rice, and Navy. Why Navy? The original agreement with the league and Navy is they wanted to be in the West because they come from all over as a national institution. Otherwise western travel is minimized except for Navy and another crossover if required.

From there grow it from an excellent starting point in status plus you have all time zones covered. It's a go to model in good TV markets with the best platform in sports.

Adds can come at the appropriate time or now if it can be worked out financially.

This makes the most sense from a money and feasibility standpoint. Most importantly you have an existing media partner in the ESPN who would absolutely pay up for this.

I've also seen where an additional media partner could be brought to the table along with ESPN enhancing the deal because of the multiple schools and time slots brought to the table. I'm sure Aresco, Luck, and the P4 can maximize this opportunity which in my opinion is the best one for the future of all parties involved. Beyond this in the future I'd love to have all the academy's added in AFA & Army.

Stanford will kill this as well. There are schools that Stanford don't want that are in the AAC as well. They will make demands that Tulsa, North Texas, FAU, UAB, ECU, Temple, Charlotte etc to be booted before a merger.

Is there any legitimate mechanism to actually accomplish such a rift? That is, other than the "chosen" ones resigning from the conference and paying negotiated and legitimate exit fees. Which would seem to be, the normal way such things are accomplished.

Would we just tell the new guys - Oh sorry, you thought we were serious? Maybe - ghost them and not send Christmas cards? Change all our phone numbers and move the conference office?

I know the world is going full on crazy and ethics and character don't seem to matter much now days - but personally; I hope Aresco has bigger balls and better ethics than that. And while its most certainly a Boy Scout type sentiment - I also hope that legacy members of the conference would come to the defense of the new guys if such a demand were to be made.

(08-12-2023 12:18 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 12:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  Memphis's problem has always been its academic standing, which is lower than any of the current P5 and its reputation, deserved or not, for cheating.

Cheating? Memphis has done nothing compared to the media and conference darlings who continue to get propped up and have everything glossed over. It's time for that tired trope to go away.

^^THIS^^

(08-12-2023 12:18 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 12:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  Memphis's problem has always been its academic standing, which is lower than any of the current P5 and its reputation, deserved or not, for cheating.

Cheating? Memphis has done nothing compared to the media and conference darlings who continue to get propped up and have everything glossed over. It's time for that tired trope to go away.

Amen!

(08-12-2023 04:56 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 04:47 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(08-12-2023 10:03 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why the love affair with Tulsa? I mean I know they are private school but their ranking academically isn't what you would think considering the tuition.

Tulsa needs to be booted from the AAC. I don't know how they are in FBS with how many students are enrolled.

Tulsa has a strong shared-league history with AAC members Wichita, North Texas and Memphis. The men's basketball program offers a respectable history and an underrated fan base. Tulsa's most recent U.S. News ranking was No. 137 (of national universities), which is very respectable. The university offers an endowment of almost $1.4 billion.

In short, DavidSt, Tulsa does not deserve to be expelled from the AAC.

Tulsa's academics are like that of San Jose State, and their fanbase and enrollment to be so small. If Tulsa had the enrollment numbers like Central Oklahoma? I can see them staying. The smallest school in FBS gets to be in a P5 is the worst idea I can think of. You don't know if they might have to drop down to FCS and parked their football in the Pioneer League.