I think I like that guy, but I don't know enough about his policies yet.

I've been impressed with him and I had never heard of the dude before he started his campaign. If things tighten up at all I can't wait for the childish nickname Trump assigns him. It'll probably be something casually racist that the red hat dorks will guffaw over.

That was well played.

I expect that he will do VERY well in the coming debates.

(07-11-2023 12:17 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I expect that he will do VERY well in the coming debates.

I have no doubt about that.



(but he still won't get the nomination)

My main issue with him is any critiques I've heard of him regarding abuses of corporate power begin and end with "woke" and "ESG". If he's mentioned corporate capture of both regulatory agencies and corporate ownership of our politicians and wanting to attack those things please let me know I would very much like to hear it, but it seems to me if you eliminated ESG and any and all "woke" posturing he wouldn't have any real issues with corporate power at the moment.

(07-11-2023 12:19 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(07-11-2023 12:17 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  I expect that he will do VERY well in the coming debates.

I have no doubt about that.



(but he still won't get the nomination)

Unfortunately I fear you're correct.

Not enough name recognition. That's what sucks about a 2 party system. It'll never be a 3 way race, it'll always be R vs D.. Never R vs D vs L or R vs D vs I. Even if it were to go to I, whomever the I was it'd pull from the R or D, last time it pulled from the R cause Perot bought his way onto the stage.

I pointlessly voted for Perot :\


I was still pretty young and idealistic.

Vivek is 37. He has plenty of time to gain name recognition and run successfully in the future.

I'm liking him more and more. I need to dig in to his philosophy more, but so far, so good.

Vivek 2024

America First 2.0

1. Revive American National Identity
   • Use the military, including drones, to secure our southern border
   • End affirmative action: repeal Lyndon Johnson’s executive order 11246
   • Protect American children: ban addictive social media under age 16 & gender confusion “care” for minors
   • Make political expression a civil right & end unlawful DEI indoctrination
   • Withhold federal funding for cities that refuse to protect Americans from violent crime
     
2. Unleash the American Economy: Achieve >5% GDP Growth
   • Drill, frack & burn coal: abandon the climate cult & unshackle nuclear energy
   • Put Americans back to work: dismantle Lyndon Johnson’s failed “Great Society”
   • Incentivize trade schools over hollow college degrees (sorry, gender studies majors)
   • Launch deregulatory “Reagan 2.0” revolution: cut >75% headcount amongst U.S. regulators
   • Limit the U.S. Fed’s scope: stabilize the dollar & nothing more
     
3. Declare Independence from Communist China
   • Hold the CCP accountable for Covid-19: use all financial levers
   • Achieve semiconductor independence: secure our modern way of life
   • Stop CCP affiliates from buying American land
   • Use our military to annihilate Mexican drug cartels: defend against the CCP’s opium war
   • Ban U.S. businesses from expanding in China until the CCP stops cheating
     
4. Dismantle Managerial Bureaucracy
   • Shut down toxic government agencies: Dept of Education, FBI, IRS, and more (and rebuild from scratch when required)
   • End civil service protections for bureaucrats: 8-year term limits instead
   • Eliminate federal employee unions: repeal JFK’s executive order 10988
   • Move >75% of federal employees out of Washington D.C. & end pro-lazy “remote work” option
   • Cut wasteful expenditures: White House, not individual agencies, will submit budget requests to Congress
     
5. End Weaponization of Government & Financial Markets
   • Pardon defendants of politicized prosecutions: Trump, Mackey, and peaceful Jan 6 protesters
   • Hold Congress accountable for “hush money” fund: taxpayers should not subsidize sexual misconduct
   • Publish the Jeffrey Epstein client list: government should not use police power to shield select elites
   • Rescind Biden’s ESG rule for retirement funds: get politics out of corporate America and capital markets
   • Oppose CBDCs: fight all plans for digital currency, a dangerous scheme for government control over our bank accounts
     

What's not to like?

(07-11-2023 06:19 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  What's not to like?

There is something fake about him. Plus he came out of thin air.

Fox machine guy

Im suspicious. Sonething is off

Old boy doesn't like him because he's not a real 'merican.

(07-11-2023 06:19 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  What's not to like?

Too green. He's only 37. Limited work experience. Very much just in venture capital space. Tech company, hedge fund, pharma company, asset management company.

So doesn't really have much management or government experience. Certainly bright with good ideas, but just too inexperienced. In some ways reminds me of Jimmy Carter, who at least had been a governor. And other ways like JFK, whose youth and bravado came closer than anyone to get us into a nuclear war.

I'm looking at Haley and DeSantis.

Ahead of FBI Director Christopher Wray’s testimony tomorrow before the House Judiciary Committee, I’m calling on Committee members to ask Wray the following 15 questions & hold him accountable:

1. If U.S. voters in 2024 elect a U.S. President who seeks to shut down the FBI, what is your recommended plan to help execute on this policy directive in an orderly manner?

2. John Durham issued a lengthy report in May accusing the FBI of acting negligently in opening the Trump-Russia investigation in 2016 based on insufficient information. As head of the Bureau, after having read and reflected on Mr. Durham’s report, what steps will the Bureau take to prevent baseless politicized investigations like that which impeded President Trump’s first term in office?

3. In 2020, you claimed ANTIFA was an “ideology, not an organization.” Do you still believe that? If yes, who or what exactly do you believe destroyed downtown Portland, firebombed businesses, and attacked the city courthouse for months?

4. Regarding the events of January 6 at the Capitol, there have been multiple reports suggesting that undercover FBI agents were involved in fomenting protesters. Can you clarify the FBI’s precise role in this situation and provide explanation of the facts?

5. Considering cases like the Gretchen Whitmer “kidnapping plot,” do you think the FBI does a responsible job of handling informants and undercover agents? Do you believe FBI-led entrapment is and should be unlawful?

6. Will you share the Jeffrey Epstein client list with the public?

7. Will you investigate members of Congress who used a taxpayer slush fund for hush money to hide sexual assault allegations?

8. What is your opinion about the Department of Justice labeling concerned parents at school board meetings as “domestic terrorists?” Do you share this view?

9. The unprecedented raid of former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence raised serious public concerns about the political persecution of the current president’s chief political opponent. What alternatives did you evaluate before sending FBI agents to raid the residence of a former U.S. President?

10. The FBI’s handling of investigations into Hunter Biden’s foreign business deals and Joe Biden’s involvement in these deals leave many unanswered questions about the Bureau’s decisions. Why do you believe that a settlement between Hunter Biden and the U.S. Department of Justice for a 10+ year-old offense was announced only within a couple of weeks following the federal indictment of the 45th U.S. President?

11. Why did the FBI refuse to cooperate with Congress with respect to oversight inquiries pertaining to then-Vice President Joe Biden’s alleged involvement in a $5 million bribery scheme with a Ukrainian company?

12. Is the FBI investigating Gen. Mark Milley for his supposed back-channel discussions with the Communist Chinese government shortly after the 2020 U.S. Presidential election?

13. How many FBI agents were fired last year? How many should have been fired?

14. Your predecessor James Comey received a multimillion-dollar book deal and charges six-figure speaking fees. Do you believe this is appropriate behavior for the former Director of the FBI?

15. Do you believe it is appropriate for the FBI to celebrate the legacy of J. Edgar Hoover, the namesake of the building in which the FBI is currently headquartered?

Good questions, Mike. Will any republican have the guts to ask them?

(07-11-2023 09:53 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Good questions, Mike. Will any republican have the guts to ask them?

That's a good question.

(07-11-2023 07:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-11-2023 06:19 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  What's not to like?

Too green. He's only 37. Limited work experience. Very much just in venture capital space. Tech company, hedge fund, pharma company, asset management company.

So doesn't really have much management or government experience. Certainly bright with good ideas, but just too inexperienced. In some ways reminds me of Jimmy Carter, who at least had been a governor. And other ways like JFK, whose youth and bravado came closer than anyone to get us into a nuclear war.

I'm looking at Haley and DeSantis.

FFS

(07-11-2023 11:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-11-2023 07:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  I'm looking at Haley and DeSantis.

FFS

Yeah, bullet, what are you thinking? Don’t you remember that Nikki Haley once said something unflattering about our Lord Donald?

She’s progfilth, never again to be seriously considered by we, the true defenders of the orange brotherhood.

Wow, just wow. It must suck to be so miserable.