(06-25-2023 02:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why did Putin's Air Force not show up during Prigozhin's slow roll to Moscow? And why, after all the threatening words and promises, did Prigozhin stop all of a sudden an hour's drive from Moscow proper? Maybe we'll find out what really happened one day.... Till then we get to make up stuff :-)

Sigh. The Air Force did show up. It bombed highways and Wagner vehicles--it also took out a oil storage facility Wagner had seized to provide fuel for its columns. But it wasnt some one sided affair---the Russian Air Force was also blown out of the sky on multiple occasions when they found Wagner was moving with very capable Pantsir anti air systems (as well as shoulder fired MANPADS). Both Wagner and the Russian AF suffered losses.

(06-25-2023 02:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why did Putin's Air Force not show up during Prigozhin's slow roll to Moscow? And why, after all the threatening words and promises, did Prigozhin stop all of a sudden an hour's drive from Moscow proper? And why go to Belarus of all places? Prigozhin has to know an extra-judicial killing would be so much easier there. Maybe we'll find out what really happened one day.... Till then we get to make up stuff :-)

Why did tards like you fall the whole coup thing? Did you get your 12th jab?

(06-25-2023 02:06 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 02:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why did Putin's Air Force not show up during Prigozhin's slow roll to Moscow? And why, after all the threatening words and promises, did Prigozhin stop all of a sudden an hour's drive from Moscow proper? Maybe we'll find out what really happened one day.... Till then we get to make up stuff :-)

Sigh. The Air Force did show up. It bombed highways and Wagner vehicles--it also took out a oil storage facility Wagner had seized to provide fuel for its columns. But it wasnt some one sided affair---the Russian Air Force was also blown out of the sky on multiple occasions when they found Wagner was moving with very capable Pantsir anti air systems (as well as shoulder fired MANPADS). Both Wagner and the Russian AF suffered losses.

If that was the Russian Air Force then not only *doesn't* Russia have the second most powerful army in the world. They don't have the most powerful army in Ukraine and, for a while at least, the Russian army was the second most powerful army in Russia. I can't believe that while Wagner slow rolled its men and equipment down an open road on a known route that the Russian Air Force couldnt have done any better. And they took Russia's Southern command? How many of Wagners men were killed? I genuinely don't know.

(06-25-2023 02:12 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 02:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why did Putin's Air Force not show up during Prigozhin's slow roll to Moscow? And why, after all the threatening words and promises, did Prigozhin stop all of a sudden an hour's drive from Moscow proper? And why go to Belarus of all places? Prigozhin has to know an extra-judicial killing would be so much easier there. Maybe we'll find out what really happened one day.... Till then we get to make up stuff :-)

Why did tards like you fall the whole coup thing? Did you get your 12th jab?

You obviously didn't get your Dunning-Kruger jab.

It's spiteful lately.

(06-25-2023 01:08 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 12:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 08:27 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  It is bizarre watching American conservatives faithfully support an ex-soviet KGB agent with imperialistic intentions… its certainly not my grandfather’s GOP. I suppose the ol’ “enemy of my enemy is my friend” adage is absolutely true, even of it runs counter to US foreign policy & national security.

If Donald Trump wasn’t a Russian asset; well, its only because they didn’t need to add him to the payroll.

Nobody is shilling for Putin. People are mocking how easily distracted and naive the Ukrainian shills are. We have no business subsidizing any of this. We get nothing from it.


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With all due respect, a full on armed coup attempt within the borders of the nation with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world is not a "distraction". Anyone ignoring what happened there or pretending it wasnt real is just exposing themselves as someone who is not facing reality. This wasnt a lost tourist sub for the mega-rich or a Nancy Grace pretty girl murder mystery from some far away resort town. This Russian situation this week was VERY real and could have gone all sorts of wrong. Plenty of geo located video evidence that Russia lost at least a half dozen choppers and fixed wing aircraft during the Wagner move as well documentation of multiple fire fights. This was not "fake" or "bloodless" by any means.

It exposed that Russia is really less of a nation and is currently running much more like a mob family organization with various powerful "families" or power centers capable of starting an internal power struggle at any time. Even the final negotiated deal kinda reminds me of a mafia "sit down". It also exposed that portions of even the military are not as loyal to Putin as we thought. I think we could easily see Russia slip back into a messy period similar to the 1990's...and even if Putin is able to hold it all together----his eventual passing could trigger a real mess there as everyone scrambles to be the next Russian "Don".

Sucker

Mocking everyone with an opposing opinion is foolish.
His post is very factual and he is absolutely right about the equipment and bloodshed. The convoy was bombed and multiple aircraft were shot down. There is plenty of geo located camera phone evidence. This happened on a fairly busy highway so there were many witnesses. Your snickering and condemnation may bite you on the ass before it’s over.

The Rebellion ended when the Wagner group found out that Putin would send the Tchaikovsky group against them and Wagner's leaders realized that they would meet at Swan Lake a region not favorable for the Wagner groups weaponry.

In a related story there will be a new thriller released about the Bidens' involvement with Burisma and with the Ukraine and their conspiracy to make Putin look bad with billions of U.S. Dollars being siphoned on percentages by Zelensky and Biden for their own personal wealth. The book will highlight two GRU officials investigating and proving the links and conspiracy in spite of CIA interference. You will be able to find out how the intricate plot unravels when copies of it go on sale this November.

Look for Gorky Pork: Money Laundering in the Ukraine a book which will detail a stolen election in the U.S., a criminal Regime in the White House, programable voting machines, and of course, payola.

And Look for Gorky Pork the movie to debut in a Theatre Near You this Christmas! Unless of course the FBI pulls the plug on the film. Bootleg copies available at Gorky Pork the Movie, APO Box 100 Kremlin, Moscow and at FOX News: My Pillow Over the Face of Soros.com.

(06-25-2023 01:13 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 12:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 08:27 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  It is bizarre watching American conservatives faithfully support an ex-soviet KGB agent with imperialistic intentions… its certainly not my grandfather’s GOP. I suppose the ol’ “enemy of my enemy is my friend” adage is absolutely true, even of it runs counter to US foreign policy & national security.

If Donald Trump wasn’t a Russian asset; well, its only because they didn’t need to add him to the payroll.

Nobody is shilling for Putin. People are mocking how easily distracted and naive the Ukrainian shills are. We have no business subsidizing any of this. We get nothing from it.


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With all due respect, a full on armed coup attempt within the borders of the nation with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world is not a "distraction". Anyone ignoring what happened there or pretending it wasnt real is just exposing themselves as someone who is not facing reality. This wasnt a lost tourist sub for the mega-rich or a Nancy Grace pretty girl murder mystery from some far away resort town. This Russian situation this week was VERY real and could have gone all sorts of wrong. Plenty of geo located video evidence that Russia lost at least a half dozen choppers and fixed wing aircraft during the Wagner move as well documentation of multiple fire fights. This was not "fake" or "bloodless" by any means.

It exposed that Russia is really less of a nation and is currently running much more like a mob family organization with various powerful "families" or power centers capable of starting an internal power struggle at any time. Even the final negotiated deal kinda reminds me of a mafia "sit down". It also exposed that portions of even the military are not as loyal to Putin as we thought. I think we could easily see Russia slip back into a messy period similar to the 1990's...and even if Putin is able to hold it all together----his eventual passing could trigger a real mess there as everyone scrambles to be the next Russian "Don".

Long winded argument when you have no clue if Putin and/or Prigozhin was playing people…..especially after we just found out that the CIA knew about this for awhile and if CIA knew about this then most likely Putin knew. What were the CIA doing btw? Sitting twiddling their thumbs?

Putin very well may have tried to kill Prigozhin with a missile strike. That would lead you to believe that Putin indeed knew.

(06-25-2023 02:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why did Putin's Air Force not show up during Prigozhin's slow roll to Moscow? And why, after all the threatening words and promises, did Prigozhin stop all of a sudden an hour's drive from Moscow proper? And why go to Belarus of all places? Prigozhin has to know an extra-judicial killing would be so much easier there. Maybe we'll find out what really happened one day.... Till then we get to make up stuff :-)

Prigozhin had Pansir SAM batteries. Cell phone videos shows them being used on aircraft from the side of the road. Prigozhin got something. What who knows. Maybe a whole army all his own financed mostly by Belarus?

Here's my hunch: What is Putins greatest fear? I think in light of what is happening in Ukraine where the Russian forces haven't been able to defeat the Ukrainians the worst thing for Putin is for him to pull out without anything to show for all the Russian deaths and loss of equipment. That would paint him as weak and not able to lead.

So, he makes a deal with Prigozhin to stage a fake coup where Putin is forced to bring his troops home to quell this uprising and thus show that he didn't quit because he's losing but to save the homeland from a civil war. This would make him a hero to many Russians and not a traitor who brought his nation to an unwinnable war.

Hey, I can make up stores too. Mine sounds pretty credible though.

Or



Maybe you dopes got played yet again.

(06-25-2023 02:27 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 01:08 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 12:32 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 08:27 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(06-24-2023 05:35 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  It is bizarre watching American conservatives faithfully support an ex-soviet KGB agent with imperialistic intentions… its certainly not my grandfather’s GOP. I suppose the ol’ “enemy of my enemy is my friend” adage is absolutely true, even of it runs counter to US foreign policy & national security.

If Donald Trump wasn’t a Russian asset; well, its only because they didn’t need to add him to the payroll.

Nobody is shilling for Putin. People are mocking how easily distracted and naive the Ukrainian shills are. We have no business subsidizing any of this. We get nothing from it.


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With all due respect, a full on armed coup attempt within the borders of the nation with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world is not a "distraction". Anyone ignoring what happened there or pretending it wasnt real is just exposing themselves as someone who is not facing reality. This wasnt a lost tourist sub for the mega-rich or a Nancy Grace pretty girl murder mystery from some far away resort town. This Russian situation this week was VERY real and could have gone all sorts of wrong. Plenty of geo located video evidence that Russia lost at least a half dozen choppers and fixed wing aircraft during the Wagner move as well documentation of multiple fire fights. This was not "fake" or "bloodless" by any means.

It exposed that Russia is really less of a nation and is currently running much more like a mob family organization with various powerful "families" or power centers capable of starting an internal power struggle at any time. Even the final negotiated deal kinda reminds me of a mafia "sit down". It also exposed that portions of even the military are not as loyal to Putin as we thought. I think we could easily see Russia slip back into a messy period similar to the 1990's...and even if Putin is able to hold it all together----his eventual passing could trigger a real mess there as everyone scrambles to be the next Russian "Don".

Sucker

Mocking everyone with an opposing opinion is foolish.
His post is very factual and he is absolutely right about the equipment and bloodshed. The convoy was bombed and multiple aircraft were shot down. There is plenty of geo located camera phone evidence. This happened on a fairly busy highway so there were many witnesses. Your snickering and condemnation may bite you on the ass before it’s over.

I dont mock valid opinions only fantasy and wishcasting.
Maybe worry less about what i post and more about thr stupid shite you post

Funniest part is some of you still like the shite youve been spoonfed

And another thing


I dont give a rats arse what those frickers do. Just dont send then our money

The ukraine slavi tards are the same take the jab sheep. Maybe the next booster will shut them up for good

They said ghost of ukrsine and snake island were real. Idiots lapped it up. Dont tell me whats "real"

(06-25-2023 02:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Or



Maybe you dopes got played yet again.

Well we do know something actually happened. Despite you claiming it was all propaganda and mocking anyone disagreeing. You were wrong then and you very well could be wrong now. But continue your mocking. Maybe the karma will reach Mark Mensa levels before it’s finished.

(06-25-2023 02:51 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 02:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Or



Maybe you dopes got played yet again.

Well we do know something actually happened. Despite you claiming it was all propaganda and mocking anyone disagreeing. You were wrong then and you very well could be wrong now. But continue your mocking. Maybe the karma will reach Mark Mensa levels before it’s finished.

You frickin know what they want you to know. Grow up

It was a propaganda ruse.. dammit man what else do you need. Damn people are stupid

Keep doubling down

(06-25-2023 02:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 02:51 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 02:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Or



Maybe you dopes got played yet again.

Well we do know something actually happened. Despite you claiming it was all propaganda and mocking anyone disagreeing. You were wrong then and you very well could be wrong now. But continue your mocking. Maybe the karma will reach Mark Mensa levels before it’s finished.

You frickin know what they want you to know. Grow up

It was a propaganda ruse.. dammit man what else do you need. Damn people are stupid

Keep doubling down

One thing I do know and that is we don’t know what we don’t know.

Im going to take a leap of faith and assume most of youvarent sub 80 iq. However yall may be sub 30 in age.

Seriously. Grow up. Dont believe the shite they feed you.

Which tards here referred to quaddafi, i aint looking it up. You know who you are
.

(06-25-2023 02:40 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 02:00 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Why did Putin's Air Force not show up during Prigozhin's slow roll to Moscow? And why, after all the threatening words and promises, did Prigozhin stop all of a sudden an hour's drive from Moscow proper? And why go to Belarus of all places? Prigozhin has to know an extra-judicial killing would be so much easier there. Maybe we'll find out what really happened one day.... Till then we get to make up stuff :-)

Prigozhin had Pansir SAM batteries. Cell phone videos shows them being used on aircraft from the side of the road. Prigozhin got something. What who knows. Maybe a whole army all his own financed mostly by Belarus?

Maybe he gets Belarus after Lukashenko dies or retires. And he probably got a billion or so in his Swiss bank accounts. Or gold mines in Africa.

(06-25-2023 02:51 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-25-2023 02:44 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Or



Maybe you dopes got played yet again.

Well we do know something actually happened. Despite you claiming it was all propaganda and mocking anyone disagreeing. You were wrong then and you very well could be wrong now. But continue your mocking. Maybe the karma will reach Mark Mensa levels before it’s finished.

Shere is coming across as stuck in his opinions as the Democrats who still believe the Russian collusion hoax.

(06-25-2023 01:22 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Money laundering will continue.

And that's all that matters.

(06-25-2023 02:25 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  It's spiteful lately.

It doesn't like having its weak underbelly and glass jaw exposed.