(06-04-2023 04:36 PM)Section 200 Wrote: (06-04-2023 04:31 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote: (06-04-2023 04:25 PM)Section 200 Wrote: Pac 12 has no viable candidates - a viable candidate is one that increases tv money. If SDSU is added, it is because a team left. SMU has no chance. SDSU & SMU are excellent schools, this is solely about $$ from tv rankings.
PAC needs 12 for inventory. Both SDSU and SMU would enter at lesser shares, though they might not be the same. The PAC cannot afford to be locked out of all of SoCal and they know the B12 would take SDSU if they don't. Adding SDSU is a defensive move. Going into Texas is more on the offensive and SMU has plenty of money to spend.
SDSU doesn't provide access to the LA market & the Pac-12 has made due without the SD market for its entire existence. SD market is a bad sports market - only the Padres - lost the NFL & no NBA or NHL. SD is a huge wealthy city & it only supports 1 major league team? The Pac 12 also doesn't need inventory - the league can't sell the games it has now at a decent price.
The conference is already lost - they just won't admit it. I lived thru the Big East experience - Pac 12 is in the same spot.
I wish SDSU well & am sure the school will eventually find a home if it continues to invest.
Nope, Pac claimed the SD market via USCLA but SDSU still is the one that owns it. The PAC loses the SD market unless they invite SDSU. You really don't know crap. There are 24 million in SoCal. It's a big place with a lot of recruits. San Diego is the 5th largest county in the US. We also have a lot of SDSU graduates throughout the area, especially up the 15 in Temecula which would identify more with San Diego sports than LA. Still, they end up in the LA DMA.
Lost the NFL? No. The Chargers would have gotten over $900M to stay here without ever reaching into their pocket. But, Spanos wanted to move to LA and that is what he got. He has no following there. We didn't lose the Chargers, we have been stuck with lousy ownership, Spanos and then Gene Klein before that. We did have the NBA. Know the name Donald Sterling? Only owner of a professional sports team (Clippers) in the USA forced to sell his team by the other owners. Padres? They are in the top 5 in attendance over the last 5 or so years. SDSU basketball outdraws every PAC school other than Arizona which has a larger arena. The modern passing game in football was created here under Don Coryell at SDSU. You can look that up if you want and find out that John Madden and Joe Gibbs coached under Coryell at SDSU. This is a very good sports town but you have to show you want to win. If not, there are other things to do. The Spanoses? They went to one Superbowl in 1994 and after demanded the city spend $100M in stadium upgrades with a ticket guarantee that said the city would buy tickets they didn't sell. Guess what, they didn't try to sell them (and Spanos has done the same thing in LA with Kronke). Not great for public relations. The paint on the remodel wasn't even dry and Spanos said they needed a new stadium. Spanos is a laughing stock among the other owners who didn't want him to move the team.
As for LA, how many professional football teams have they lost? Four. They lost the Chargers in 61, the Rams and the Raiders and they were supposed to get the Houston franchise if they just built a stadium. They didn't, so the franchise went to Houston. Kronke came in and built a stadium on his dime for the most part. LA sure as hell didn't do much but gift him land.
The NWSL set two attendance records here at Snapdragon in just their second year playing. 33K for a women's soccer game. Even the National team doesn't draw that for a friendly. We just got a MSL franchise which brings along with it an international youth soccer foundation, "Right to Dream." San Diego will be one of the leaders for soccer in the nation with that affiliation.
I really tire of people that don't know a damned thing about this town trashing it and its sports history. Why don't you try to buy a seat for a Padre game right now, see how much it costs if you can actually get a seat. Funny thing, the Padres have an owner that actually spends money and wants to win and they routinely sell out. And, they don't even have a winning record right now.
The PAC isn't dying. Only way that happens is if the B1G takes at least two more teams. That won't happen, if it even does, until 2030.
Oh yeah, San Diego is rather wealthy. However, it is also expensive. I live in a 1650 sf duplex which is worth over a million dollars. That means it also costs over a million dollars. You look to live in Cincy, betcha that million bucks buys you a bigger house there. Of course, your weather sucks while I live in the nicest climate in the world. So yeah, wealthy city but everything here costs more as well. Try not to be so stupid.