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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
(05-05-2023 04:11 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-04-2023 07:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Not saying it was right to kill him, but he had been arrested 40+ times. Guy did society a favor at the cost of his own freedom.

I simply don’t have pity for habitual criminals anymore. The homeless are becoming a plague and many cannot be rehabilitated into functional members of society.



The poor guy have been down in the dumps after his mother was murdered. He needed help, but not killed.

Me too but it made me stronger not weaker.
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(05-10-2023 03:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  If he was trying to kill that guy I'd hope a Marine would do it a lot quicker. Former Marine Oswald killed a guy in 2 shots from nearly 500 yards away. Hate to see standards have dropped so much in the last 60 years.

Its just proof that a simple headlock can kill people with low-t (like your standard liberal. )
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Oh my goodness, will you people please use gone instead of "went". I'm very Sheldonish about this, please STOP!
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(05-10-2023 03:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  If he was trying to kill that guy I'd hope a Marine would do it a lot quicker. Former Marine Oswald killed a guy in 2 shots from nearly 500 yards away. Hate to see standards have dropped so much in the last 60 years.

No he didn't. The dead man's nephew says the CIA killed him just like they did his father and MLK.
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(05-10-2023 03:47 PM)Southaven Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 03:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  If he was trying to kill that guy I'd hope a Marine would do it a lot quicker. Former Marine Oswald killed a guy in 2 shots from nearly 500 yards away. Hate to see standards have dropped so much in the last 60 years.

No he didn't. The dead man's nephew says the CIA killed him just like they did his father and MLK.

I stand corrected! COGS
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(05-10-2023 03:54 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 03:47 PM)Southaven Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 03:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  If he was trying to kill that guy I'd hope a Marine would do it a lot quicker. Former Marine Oswald killed a guy in 2 shots from nearly 500 yards away. Hate to see standards have dropped so much in the last 60 years.

No he didn't. The dead man's nephew says the CIA killed him just like they did his father and MLK.

I stand corrected! COGS

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(05-10-2023 03:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 03:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  If he was trying to kill that guy I'd hope a Marine would do it a lot quicker. Former Marine Oswald killed a guy in 2 shots from nearly 500 yards away. Hate to see standards have dropped so much in the last 60 years.

Its just proof that a simple headlock can kill people with low-t (like your standard liberal. )

Blood choke, not a headlock. Big difference.
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(05-10-2023 05:58 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 03:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 03:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  If he was trying to kill that guy I'd hope a Marine would do it a lot quicker. Former Marine Oswald killed a guy in 2 shots from nearly 500 yards away. Hate to see standards have dropped so much in the last 60 years.

Its just proof that a simple headlock can kill people with low-t (like your standard liberal. )

Blood choke, not a headlock. Big difference.

First time we've ever agreed on anything. I've applied it and had it applied to me (in practice). One knows immediately when your opponent is out, and it happens damn quick. He should have let up.

That said, I'd still give him a medal. F that homeless animal pos.
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(05-10-2023 06:06 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 05:58 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 03:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 03:09 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  If he was trying to kill that guy I'd hope a Marine would do it a lot quicker. Former Marine Oswald killed a guy in 2 shots from nearly 500 yards away. Hate to see standards have dropped so much in the last 60 years.

Its just proof that a simple headlock can kill people with low-t (like your standard liberal. )

Blood choke, not a headlock. Big difference.

First time we've ever agreed on anything. I've applied it and had it applied to me (in practice). One knows immediately when your opponent is out, and it happens damn quick. He should have let up.

That said, I'd still give him a medal. F that homeless animal pos.

Yeah, if you get it locked in right it’s about 15 seconds before they are out and you know.
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(05-10-2023 11:58 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-09-2023 12:41 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 06:02 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:35 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  Harassing people on a subway shouldn't be a death sentence.

It wasnt a death sentence

It was fafo.

If the marine meant to kill him it would not have been a choke hold. It would have been a 1 second act

You are really stupid

Fifteen minutes.

Cops were there in 6 mins. Why do you insist on peddling these lies?

It was 3 mins and the guy was alive and had been propped up in a recovery position.

Why continue the lies?

It was at least three minutes based on the video I saw, he already had the choke locked in at the start of the video.

So you don’t think holding a blood choke for three minutes is lethal force?

The video I saw also had a guy telling the people restraining dude that they were killing him.


(05-10-2023 11:58 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-09-2023 12:41 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 06:02 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:35 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  Harassing people on a subway shouldn't be a death sentence.

It wasnt a death sentence

It was fafo.

If the marine meant to kill him it would not have been a choke hold. It would have been a 1 second act

You are really stupid

Fifteen minutes.

Cops were there in 6 mins. Why do you insist on peddling these lies?

It was 3 mins and the guy was alive and had been propped up in a recovery position.

Why continue the lies?

It was at least three minutes based on the video I saw, he already had the choke locked in at the start of the video.

So you don’t think holding a blood choke for three minutes is lethal force?

The video I saw also had a guy telling the people restraining dude that they were killing him.


Yea, and I’m sure the “people” video ing this are trained in what?

I’ve been trained as an advanced save lifeguard. Like beach rescue stuff some years ago.

What on earth is a “blood choke hold”?

Do you even know what you’re talking about or just making schit up?

If you’ve got a panicked swimmer or say surfer gasping, you gotta subdue them before they drown both of you.

Stick to what you know. Ima guessing you little about this.

Prove me wrong
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(05-10-2023 03:11 PM)Southaven Wrote:  
(05-05-2023 04:11 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(05-04-2023 07:10 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Not saying it was right to kill him, but he had been arrested 40+ times. Guy did society a favor at the cost of his own freedom.

I simply don’t have pity for habitual criminals anymore. The homeless are becoming a plague and many cannot be rehabilitated into functional members of society.



The poor guy have been down in the dumps after his mother was murdered. He needed help, but not killed.

Me too but it made me stronger not weaker.

(05-10-2023 11:05 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(05-10-2023 11:58 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-09-2023 12:41 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 06:02 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  It wasnt a death sentence

It was fafo.

If the marine meant to kill him it would not have been a choke hold. It would have been a 1 second act

You are really stupid

Fifteen minutes.

Cops were there in 6 mins. Why do you insist on peddling these lies?

It was 3 mins and the guy was alive and had been propped up in a recovery position.

Why continue the lies?

It was at least three minutes based on the video I saw, he already had the choke locked in at the start of the video.

So you don’t think holding a blood choke for three minutes is lethal force?

The video I saw also had a guy telling the people restraining dude that they were killing him.


(05-10-2023 11:58 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-09-2023 12:41 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 06:02 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  It wasnt a death sentence

It was fafo.

If the marine meant to kill him it would not have been a choke hold. It would have been a 1 second act

You are really stupid

Fifteen minutes.

Cops were there in 6 mins. Why do you insist on peddling these lies?

It was 3 mins and the guy was alive and had been propped up in a recovery position.

Why continue the lies?

It was at least three minutes based on the video I saw, he already had the choke locked in at the start of the video.

So you don’t think holding a blood choke for three minutes is lethal force?

The video I saw also had a guy telling the people restraining dude that they were killing him.


Yea, and I’m sure the “people” video ing this are trained in what?

I’ve been trained as an advanced save lifeguard. Like beach rescue stuff some years ago.

What on earth is a “blood choke hold”?

Do you even know what you’re talking about or just making schit up?

If you’ve got a panicked swimmer or say surfer gasping, you gotta subdue them before they drown both of you.

Stick to what you know. Ima guessing you little about this.

Prove me wrong

You don’t even know what the type of restraint used here was (blood choke or carotid restraint, most commonly seen as BBJ rear naked choke) and you are trying to tell people to stick to what they know?

Maybe you should practice what you preach.
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in the Marines, we arent thought to kill with a blood choke, its to subdue or incapacitate the subject. If this Marine wanted to kill the subject, there would have been blood all over the place. One Mind, Any Weapon.
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(05-11-2023 08:41 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  in the Marines, we arent thought to kill with a blood choke, its to subdue or incapacitate the subject. If this Marine wanted to kill the subject, there would have been blood all over the place. One Mind, Any Weapon.

The marines also taught you that a blood choke is effective in seconds.

Dude held it for minutes when he should have transitioned to a different hold. It doesn’t matter if he intended to kill guy, he did kill guy when neither his life or the life of another was in imminent danger and should be charged with some version of manslaughter/ negligent homicide (whatever NYS law is appropriate).

I rode the F train every work day for about a year and a half. Plenty of crazy people, never needed to kill one for yelling.
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(05-11-2023 10:00 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-11-2023 08:41 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  in the Marines, we arent thought to kill with a blood choke, its to subdue or incapacitate the subject. If this Marine wanted to kill the subject, there would have been blood all over the place. One Mind, Any Weapon.

The marines also taught you that a blood choke is effective in seconds.

Dude held it for minutes when he should have transitioned to a different hold. It doesn’t matter if he intended to kill guy, he did kill guy when neither his life or the life of another was in imminent danger and should be charged with some version of manslaughter/ negligent homicide (whatever NYS law is appropriate).

I rode the F train every work day for about a year and a half. Plenty of crazy people, never needed to kill one for yelling.

Youre a wuss.
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(05-11-2023 10:05 AM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-11-2023 10:00 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-11-2023 08:41 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  in the Marines, we arent thought to kill with a blood choke, its to subdue or incapacitate the subject. If this Marine wanted to kill the subject, there would have been blood all over the place. One Mind, Any Weapon.

The marines also taught you that a blood choke is effective in seconds.

Dude held it for minutes when he should have transitioned to a different hold. It doesn’t matter if he intended to kill guy, he did kill guy when neither his life or the life of another was in imminent danger and should be charged with some version of manslaughter/ negligent homicide (whatever NYS law is appropriate).

I rode the F train every work day for about a year and a half. Plenty of crazy people, never needed to kill one for yelling.

Youre a wuss.

Probably pee his pants if someone yelled at him.
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(05-11-2023 10:00 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-11-2023 08:41 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  in the Marines, we arent thought to kill with a blood choke, its to subdue or incapacitate the subject. If this Marine wanted to kill the subject, there would have been blood all over the place. One Mind, Any Weapon.

The marines also taught you that a blood choke is effective in seconds.

Dude held it for minutes when he should have transitioned to a different hold. It doesn’t matter if he intended to kill guy, he did kill guy when neither his life or the life of another was in imminent danger and should be charged with some version of manslaughter/ negligent homicide (whatever NYS law is appropriate).

I rode the F train every work day for about a year and a half. Plenty of crazy people, never needed to kill one for yelling.

If the subject is not resisting... which was not the case here. 07-coffee3
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(05-11-2023 10:00 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-11-2023 08:41 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  in the Marines, we arent thought to kill with a blood choke, its to subdue or incapacitate the subject. If this Marine wanted to kill the subject, there would have been blood all over the place. One Mind, Any Weapon.

I rode the F train every work day for about a year and a half. Plenty of crazy people, never needed to kill one for yelling.

Cucks let a lot of things happen that shouldnt.
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You guys are real internet bad asses today, don't hurt your keyboard typing so hard.
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(05-11-2023 10:32 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(05-11-2023 10:00 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(05-11-2023 08:41 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  in the Marines, we arent thought to kill with a blood choke, its to subdue or incapacitate the subject. If this Marine wanted to kill the subject, there would have been blood all over the place. One Mind, Any Weapon.

I rode the F train every work day for about a year and a half. Plenty of crazy people, never needed to kill one for yelling.

Cucks let a lot of things happen that shouldnt.

Rim-Shot! +3
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(05-11-2023 10:45 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  You guys are real internet bad asses today, don't hurt your keyboard typing so hard.

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