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RE: Marine kills homeless man in nyc
All this talk about who is to blame for this situation...

Seems pretty clear. The only person responsible for this is Jordan Neely.

But, I guess we now live in a world where EVERYONE is to blame except the person responsible for the behavior.
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(05-08-2023 12:35 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 09:46 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 10:00 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Amazing how hard they are defending a man who tried to kidnap a 7 year old girl. Nah I'm not sad a crazed lunatic criminal bite the dust.

I'd prefer him in a mental institution alive, but the left will never let such people be forcibly moved to such institutions so this is really the only option.

to both bold text ….. why?

that’s why the pubs are pansies…

Because people with mental illness shouldn't be executed for having a mental illness. That's some Nazi level stuff right there.

I don't think the marine did anything wrong, but really not wanting anyone with a mental illness to die makes one a pansie? 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

you missed the point ... that's okay...

let's phrase another way ... explain how "mental illness" is now the mantra for all that goes 'south' ... seriously, please explain how it happens overnight...

this issue is extremely complex ... what I find amusing (like the GWB's "we'll build more prisons") is fk'n tard in muh book...

we're decades deep into 'lack of training/development', and some of the sum believe it's just now a mental issue ... ummmmmmkay

hint: that ain' it

dumb 'em down, keep 'em down, watch 'em grow ... it's that simple...

welcome to the return of serfdom via 21st century 'capitulation of capitalism'...

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(05-08-2023 12:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 12:35 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 09:46 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 10:00 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Amazing how hard they are defending a man who tried to kidnap a 7 year old girl. Nah I'm not sad a crazed lunatic criminal bite the dust.

I'd prefer him in a mental institution alive, but the left will never let such people be forcibly moved to such institutions so this is really the only option.

to both bold text ….. why?

that’s why the pubs are pansies…

Because people with mental illness shouldn't be executed for having a mental illness. That's some Nazi level stuff right there.

I don't think the marine did anything wrong, but really not wanting anyone with a mental illness to die makes one a pansie? 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

you missed the point ... that's okay...

let's phrase another way ... explain how "mental illness" is now the mantra for all that goes 'south' ... seriously, please explain how it happens overnight...

this issue is extremely complex ... what I find amusing (like the GWB's "we'll build more prisons") is fk'n tard in muh book...

we're decades deep into 'lack of training/development', and some of the sum believe it's just now a mental issue ... ummmmmmkay

hint: that ain' it

dumb 'em down, keep 'em down, watch 'em grow ... it's that simple...

welcome to the return of serfdom via 21st century 'capitulation of capitalism'...

@longTermGoalsByDesign

I'm not here to defend anything that goes south. I said I'd prefer him specifically in a mental institution rather than dead. He should have been in one many years ago. Not sure why that suddenly makes me have to account for every bad thing that's ever happened.
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They only care about them when they are dead at the hands of a white, straight, male; the rarest of these type of events. The guy did what he felt he needed to do to protect himself and others. That it ended in a death is sad, but I have yet to hear of any malicious intent on the part of the Marine.
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(05-08-2023 12:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  All this talk about who is to blame for this situation...

Seems pretty clear. The only person responsible for this is Jordan Neely.

But, I guess we now live in a world where EVERYONE is to blame except the person responsible for the behavior.

He is 100% to blame. But, we can also look into how the political situation in New York and even the United States helped lead to those actions by not having dealt with him before this happened.
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(05-08-2023 12:57 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 12:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 12:35 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 09:46 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 10:00 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Amazing how hard they are defending a man who tried to kidnap a 7 year old girl. Nah I'm not sad a crazed lunatic criminal bite the dust.

I'd prefer him in a mental institution alive, but the left will never let such people be forcibly moved to such institutions so this is really the only option.

to both bold text ….. why?

that’s why the pubs are pansies…

Because people with mental illness shouldn't be executed for having a mental illness. That's some Nazi level stuff right there.

I don't think the marine did anything wrong, but really not wanting anyone with a mental illness to die makes one a pansie? 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

you missed the point ... that's okay...

let's phrase another way ... explain how "mental illness" is now the mantra for all that goes 'south' ... seriously, please explain how it happens overnight...

this issue is extremely complex ... what I find amusing (like the GWB's "we'll build more prisons") is fk'n tard in muh book...

we're decades deep into 'lack of training/development', and some of the sum believe it's just now a mental issue ... ummmmmmkay

hint: that ain' it

dumb 'em down, keep 'em down, watch 'em grow ... it's that simple...

welcome to the return of serfdom via 21st century 'capitulation of capitalism'...

@longTermGoalsByDesign

I'm not here to defend anything that goes south. I said I'd prefer him specifically in a mental institution rather than dead. He should have been in one many years ago. Not sure why that suddenly makes me have to account for every bad thing that's ever happened.

b/c kneejerk never works ... too late is passe ... and how to fix it w/o violence no longer exists...

again, you're missing my point ... it isn't malice where I come from ... however, if malice, it shall become if req'd...

in just the past month, all you've seen via the msm is gay, trans, and muh goon violence ... why is that ... they own yo' arse, broheim!
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(05-08-2023 12:58 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 12:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  All this talk about who is to blame for this situation...

Seems pretty clear. The only person responsible for this is Jordan Neely.

But, I guess we now live in a world where EVERYONE is to blame except the person responsible for the behavior.

He is 100% to blame. But, we can also look into how the political situation in New York and even the United States helped lead to those actions by not having dealt with him before this happened.

I hear you.

The criminal justice system is way too lax. After a certain number of "strikes", they need to lock them up and throw away the key.
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(05-08-2023 01:14 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 12:58 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 12:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  All this talk about who is to blame for this situation...

Seems pretty clear. The only person responsible for this is Jordan Neely.

But, I guess we now live in a world where EVERYONE is to blame except the person responsible for the behavior.

He is 100% to blame. But, we can also look into how the political situation in New York and even the United States helped lead to those actions by not having dealt with him before this happened.

I hear you.

The criminal justice system is way too lax. After a certain number of "strikes", they need to lock them up and throw away the key.

What we need are penal colonies. If they haven't raped or murdered, but are habitual law breakers, find a remote area they can settle and let them work it out. The interesting thing about penal colonies is that they almost universally set up more stringent laws than other forms of colonization. What the government would have to do is to provide access to necessary supplies and make sure access and egress were restricted, at least for a time. That way our prisons could be what they need to be, warehouses for those who habitually, or mentally are a threat to the nation's citizens.
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Democrat Women Usher in New, Dangerously 'Woke' Narrative After Jordan Neely Subway Incident


Quote:Pretty much no Democrat political figure in New York is speaking responsibly in the aftermath of the subway death of 30-year-old homeless man Jordan Neely – not NYC Mayor Eric Adams, not NY Gov. Kathy Hochul, and certainly not Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

Neely, as RedState readers will recall, was subdued last Monday by multiple passengers on an NYC subway after allegedly behaving in an aggressive and threatening manner, and saying he was hungry and didn’t care if he got arrested.

One of those passengers, a 24-year-old Marine, at one point put him in a chokehold while other subway riders assisted in restraining Neely, according to video footage.

Neely was later pronounced dead at a nearby hospital, and the medical examiner has ruled his death a homicide.

As one might expect, AOC has led the way in inciting far-left radicals in the deep blue city to wreak havoc on NYC subway lines, culminating in a “tracks protest” Saturday where “peaceful protesters” actually jumped onto subway tracks to prevent trains from passing through. Other videos taken of the chaos showed the same agitators also blocking passengers from being able to enter and exit the subway trains which was, in effect, kidnapping.

But perhaps even worst than AOC’s insinuations about how mentally ill people have the right to intimidate and harass others is another dangerously woke narrative that is emerging among woke Democrat women – that assaults aren’t actually assaults, and even if they are, we should check our privilege when they happen because the people committing them can’t help it.

Take a look at the below tweet, where a discussion on how to handle uncomfortable situations involving mentally ill persons acting erratically toward others was taking place. One person suggested trying to “talk with” the erratically-behaving person, and another responded that you should simply keep you head down to try and avoid confrontation at all – something that quite commonly happens on NYC subway trains.



In response, a video was shared from a recent segment of the far-left “Majority Report,” where co-host Emma Vigeland, who is a former reporter for the Young Turks, actually suggested that people who were being victimized on subway platforms should check their privilege and feel more sympathetic for the plight of the person harassing/assaulting them then they should for themselves. Incredibly, Vigeland talked about how she herself was allegedly a victim of a mentally unwell subway passenger assaulting her, but that her heart went out to the person who hit her in the course of an outburst.

“My fear is not the primary object we should be focusing on right now,” Vigeland said. “It’s the fact that this person is in pain.”

“And so, like, the politics of dehumanization, privileges, the bourgeois kind of concern of people’s, like, immediate discomfort in this narrow, narrow instance, as opposed to larger humanity and life. It’s really freaking twisted,” she continued.

Watch:



Relatedly, Democrat pollster Elizabeth Spiers, who is a contributing writer for the New York Times opinion pages, actually sought to eradicate the notion that there is a big crime problem on NYC subways. Why? Because according to her, her child has never experienced any “lunatics” while riding the subway:



But in doing a little research, one will find that Spiers herself did admittedly experience an issue with an attempted sexual assault, which she posted about briefly in 2022:



She later tried to downplay it by absurdly comparing it to alleged Duke University crime problems.

“And let’s be real: if douchebags trying to grab my a** is a real crime metric, Duke University was far more of a crime ridden hellhole than the NYC subway in my experience,” Spiers also wrote at the time.

It’s astonishing when you think about it. We’ve gone from “men are evil” and “war on women” to “women must allow men in their locker rooms and showers in the name of ‘progress,'” and “women must acknowledge and subject themselves to the pain mentally ill men want to inflict because of privilege.”

As far as I’m concerned, this is Exhibit 17,582 of why people should seriously reconsider whether woke Democrat women should be near the levers of power, because in my opinion, they are going to be the cause of the downfall of civilization if they keep it up with insanity like this. And no, I am not being remotely facetious here.
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(05-08-2023 01:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 01:14 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 12:58 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 12:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  All this talk about who is to blame for this situation...

Seems pretty clear. The only person responsible for this is Jordan Neely.

But, I guess we now live in a world where EVERYONE is to blame except the person responsible for the behavior.

He is 100% to blame. But, we can also look into how the political situation in New York and even the United States helped lead to those actions by not having dealt with him before this happened.

I hear you.

The criminal justice system is way too lax. After a certain number of "strikes", they need to lock them up and throw away the key.

What we need are penal colonies. If they haven't raped or murdered, but are habitual law breakers, find a remote area they can settle and let them work it out. The interesting thing about penal colonies is that they almost universally set up more stringent laws than other forms of colonization. What the government would have to do is to provide access to necessary supplies and make sure access and egress were restricted, at least for a time. That way our prisons could be what they need to be, warehouses for those who habitually, or mentally are a threat to the nation's citizens.

by design, it's right around the corner ... mo(i)st don't see it, yet...
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(05-07-2023 08:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 07:38 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 07:23 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.

As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.

If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.

If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.

As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.

While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.

If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.

The point is after 40 encounters with the Judicial system he should never have been in the position to harass innocent people on the train. The judges who let him walk 40 times are just a negligent as the young marine.

Harassing people on a subway shouldn't be a death sentence.
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What a complete fukin idiot. Nut job on subway harasses folks and the bleeding heart lib t-nuc says everyone should just sympathize with said nut job rather than defend themselves.


I truly hate these leftist fools. All of them
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(05-08-2023 05:37 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  What a complete fukin idiot. Nut job on subway harasses folks and the bleeding heart lib t-nuc says everyone should just sympathize with said nut job rather than defend themselves.


I truly hate these leftist fools. All of them

You love murderers which is why I ******* hate you.
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(05-08-2023 05:40 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:37 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  What a complete fukin idiot. Nut job on subway harasses folks and the bleeding heart lib t-nuc says everyone should just sympathize with said nut job rather than defend themselves.


I truly hate these leftist fools. All of them

You love murderers which is why I ******* hate you.

I suggest you put on ewer hoodie and go for a stroll...
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(05-08-2023 05:35 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 08:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 07:38 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 07:23 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.

As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.

If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.

If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.

As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.

While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.

If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.

The point is after 40 encounters with the Judicial system he should never have been in the position to harass innocent people on the train. The judges who let him walk 40 times are just a negligent as the young marine.

Harassing people on a subway shouldn't be a death sentence.

It wasnt a death sentence

It was fafo.

If the marine meant to kill him it would not have been a choke hold. It would have been a 1 second act

You are really stupid
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(05-08-2023 05:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:35 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 08:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 07:38 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 07:23 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Neely didn’t deserve to die. With that being said he shouldn’t have threatened passengers on the train. If he was hungry he should have went to one of a number of shelters for a meal.

As it was Jordan chose to victimize innocent commuters as he had apparently done multiple times before.

If the NYC social services had valued Jordan Neely he would still be alive.

If the NYC judicial system had valued the welfare of its citizens Jordan Neely he would still be alive.

As it was Jordan expected everyone on that train to give him a pass just like they always did. Unfortunately for Neely he met a group of passengers who refused to do that.

While Jordan Neely’s death is unfortunate, the failed policies of NYC are just as responsible for his death as the marine who restrained him.

If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.

The point is after 40 encounters with the Judicial system he should never have been in the position to harass innocent people on the train. The judges who let him walk 40 times are just a negligent as the young marine.

Harassing people on a subway shouldn't be a death sentence.

It wasnt a death sentence

It was fafo.

If the marine meant to kill him it would not have been a choke hold. It would have been a 1 second act

You are really stupid

Fifteen minutes.
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(05-08-2023 05:40 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:37 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  What a complete fukin idiot. Nut job on subway harasses folks and the bleeding heart lib t-nuc says everyone should just sympathize with said nut job rather than defend themselves.


I truly hate these leftist fools. All of them

You love murderers which is why I ******* hate you.

The amount of times such a situation goes wrong such as the guy having a gun or knife on him is high. When a guy is acting like a complete nutjob you have to assume he will be a nutjob with a weapon and that he very likely might have one.

He should never be in that situation. He should have been in prison or a mental institution long ago. But, the liberal wackos letting him back on the street killed him. Not the marine.
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(05-08-2023 06:23 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:40 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:37 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  What a complete fukin idiot. Nut job on subway harasses folks and the bleeding heart lib t-nuc says everyone should just sympathize with said nut job rather than defend themselves.


I truly hate these leftist fools. All of them

You love murderers which is why I ******* hate you.

The amount of times such a situation goes wrong such as the guy having a gun or knife on him is high. When a guy is acting like a complete nutjob you have to assume he will be a nutjob with a weapon and that he very likely might have one.

He should never be in that situation. He should have been in prison or a mental institution long ago. But, the liberal wackos letting him back on the street killed him. Not the marine.

please prosecute and put ME on that JURY!

see how that works, tanq?!
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(05-08-2023 06:02 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:54 PM)shere khan Wrote:  
(05-08-2023 05:35 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 08:09 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(05-07-2023 07:38 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  If the Marine didn't kill him he would still be alive period.

The point is after 40 encounters with the Judicial system he should never have been in the position to harass innocent people on the train. The judges who let him walk 40 times are just a negligent as the young marine.

Harassing people on a subway shouldn't be a death sentence.

It wasnt a death sentence

It was fafo.

If the marine meant to kill him it would not have been a choke hold. It would have been a 1 second act

You are really stupid

Fifteen minutes.

Not guilty
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