(04-24-2023 11:21 AM)Claw Wrote: Tucker and Bongino could literally start their own network and instantly overtake CNN.
It will happen if OAN or Newsmax can land them both.
OAN and Newsmax can't handle the liability, they'd have just declared bankruptcy. I'm not even sure they could afford to pay him more than he could make just by doing his own podcast.
(04-24-2023 11:07 AM)gdunn Wrote: Bongino is out as well at Fox
Bongino said last week that there was no conspiracy, no dumping of him. Said it was simply a failed negotiation. No hard feelings.
With Tucker, it was a case of him venturing off the reservation regarding the messaging of Fox News. They don't like his viewpoints. Paul Ryan is busy trying to remake that network.
I think the new heads at FNC is probably making way for more left leaning anchors
I agree. CNN is also heading towards the Center, though from the other direction. The wheel is starting to turn again, it would seem. I'm sure it will turn again in the future.
You don’t get it. Corporate media isn’t changing — they are shills for government and giant corporations. That’s the problem right there and not some surface appearance of left leaning, right leaning, center leaning. FoxNews is just as a government or agencies shill as much as MSNBC but in a slightly different way
(04-24-2023 11:21 AM)Claw Wrote: Tucker and Bongino could literally start their own network and instantly overtake CNN.
It will happen if OAN or Newsmax can land them both.
I think Bongino enjoys just doing his podcast and radio show... That was an added bonus..
Newsmax isn't going to hire Tucker Carlson. Fox can absorb the financial hit but it would bankrupt an organization like newsmax. Stating in writing that you're lying about what you're reporting has to be one of the stupidest things a newscaster and public figure could do. He might do some kind of podcast. Has an extreme outlier he may crawl in his belly and kiss the Ring of Donald Trump begging forgiveness and requesting some small duty he may render Trump Dumpty in order to get back in his good graces. If he does that Trump may call him in one day has press secretary or something if he gets re-elected.
You keep saying this, without posting a link.
I don't think that you need to post links to things that are so commonly known. Do you want a link to prove that Reagan was President for 8 years?
I've seen the actual text messages, or copies of them, from numerous fox Hosts, including Tucker, and I hardly follow politics these days. If you're too lazy or ornery to look them up yourself, then that's your problem.
(04-24-2023 11:42 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: lulz, so Fox agrees to pay dominion $750million. Then they part ways with Tucker and they lose $800million in market cap.
Sounds like something liberals who run things, partnered with a rino like Paul Ryan, did to our economy. And now they are doing it to one of the largest cable news company.
At least Paul Ryan could get elected, and help others around him to get elected, too. Trump infiltrated the Republican Party, magnified the most divisive parts of it, then wondered why he won only one election (and cost them many House/Senate seats in 2018 and 2022).
You guys have a choice right now: decide that some "RINO" is ok as long as you win elections b/c it keeps the Dems out of office, or help get nut job leftists elected because you keep nominating people like Mastriano for Governor or, yes, Trump for President.
What did Sununu say about Trump at the Gridiron?
“The press often will ask me if I think Donald Trump is crazy. And I’ll say it this way: I don’t think he’s so crazy that you could put him in a mental institution. But I think if he were in one, he ain’t getting out!”
(04-24-2023 11:44 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote: Good luck again to Fox if they think that becoming just another media outlet, slightly to the right of CNN is going to keep their bread buttered. The reason they were successful is that when they came on the scene, there was no outlet for conservative opinion. Now that they have been drifting left thanks to Murdoch's kids all bets are off. A lot of folks stopped watching them after the 2020 Election coverage.
Now, their stock is cratering. Love it. Bad decisions have consequences.
The stock price is ten cents off from where is was three months ago.
What part about it dropping 4%-5% just minutes after they announced Tucker was gone dont you get? On a day where the DJIA is flat.
It's back up to 29.91 right now, so more like a 3% drop, with more trading ahead today.
I'd be interested in seeing how it performs in the next couple weeks more so than the kneejerk reaction that we saw earlier today. My gut says that it hurts them a lot more than 3 or even 5% long term.
(This post was last modified: 04-24-2023 05:31 PM by bryanw1995.)
(04-24-2023 05:01 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: It wasn’t Dominion Lawsuits. It was Jan 6 with some other factors thrown in. Both establishments don’t want people to get to the real truth about that day
Given the specific circumstances from Friday until today, this makes more sense than anything else I've read so far.
(04-24-2023 11:52 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: I'll say it again though I know some don't want to hear it...most conservative media exists first and foremost to advocate the interest of woke corporations and the rich. Not to fight culture wars or oppose globalism or advocate for America.
Why would Fox get rid of their most popular host? It's not because people will stop watching because they settled the lawsuit. It's almost surely advertiser pressure. Another reason for the GOP to move in a populist direction and decouple itself from Corporate America.
(04-24-2023 11:51 AM)maximus Wrote: Question for the leftists on the board
When was the last time CNN or MSNBC had... say a Glenn Greenwald on their show? Or a Tulsi Gabbard?
Or anyone similar
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And this is another reason. Corporate Globalist media definitely hates these voices.
I find it interesting that we are all so intent on finding Enemies that that we lump all Corporations into a single, sinister batch. Corporations don't exist to promote "woke" values, they exist to make money. Currently, "woke" voices are very loud, in part because of the fragmentation of the Right compared to the relative cohesiveness of the Left.
Think about that for a minute. THE LEFT IS MORE UNITED THAN THE RIGHT. Whose fault is that? I'm tempted to blame Trump, but this party started long before he joined, he just magnified already widening fissures.
If you don't like Woke Corporations, then the best way to stop that crap is by giving them an alternative. Right now, no Corporation can please most Republicans, but they can please most Democrats. So you have a bunch of corporate leaders virtue signalling about crap that has nothing to do with Profits. Give them an excuse to focus their efforts on Profits and a whole lot of them would do exactly that. The ones that didn't would drift away or perhaps become non-profits eventually.
(04-24-2023 11:44 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote: Good luck again to Fox if they think that becoming just another media outlet, slightly to the right of CNN is going to keep their bread buttered. The reason they were successful is that when they came on the scene, there was no outlet for conservative opinion. Now that they have been drifting left thanks to Murdoch's kids all bets are off. A lot of folks stopped watching them after the 2020 Election coverage.
Now, their stock is cratering. Love it. Bad decisions have consequences.
The stock price is ten cents off from where is was three months ago.
What part about it dropping 4%-5% just minutes after they announced Tucker was gone dont you get? On a day where the DJIA is flat.
Just for comparison, Fox's stock dropped 14 cents per share for the entire day after the dominion settlement.
Fox's stock dropped more than 10times that amount in a mere few minutes after the Tucker announcement.
It looks like the market had already closed when it was 29.91. Now it's up to 29.98 in after hours trading. Still a big hit, but like I said earlier, the real devastation will be seen in the days and weeks ahead (assuming we're right and their stock really tanks).
(04-24-2023 11:55 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote: Tucker Carlson will go the way of O'Reilly. The terms of release likely don't allow him to go to any competitor for a period of time so he'll have to do some kind of podcast like O'Reilly. Maybe write a book or two but will likely become irrelevant in a few months. If only he had n't of shown his true feelings for Donald Trump he might have a future in politics. But his stupidity is shut the door there also.
LMAO at some idiot who hangs out on a message board dispensing unsolicited opinions and preaching to us about what a failure a man who could buy him 1000 times over is.
(04-24-2023 03:01 PM)oruvoice Wrote: However you slice it, today is a win for the corporate media establishment and the swamp creatures in D.C.
However YOU slice it maybe. I'd wager there are a few here who think that Tucker was on pretty good terms with plenty of "swamp creatures" and "corporate media establishment" figures. His cardinal sin was costing his network nearly a $Billion bucks. He'll still land on his feet though, and likely end up making much more in the future than he was getting at Fox.
Tucker wasn't the only one saying that. And the executives made the decision on what to air.
(04-24-2023 11:42 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: lulz, so Fox agrees to pay dominion $750million. Then they part ways with Tucker and they lose $800million in market cap.
Sounds like something liberals who run things, partnered with a rino like Paul Ryan, did to our economy. And now they are doing it to one of the largest cable news company.
At least Paul Ryan could get elected, and help others around him to get elected, too. Trump infiltrated the Republican Party, magnified the most divisive parts of it, then wondered why he won only one election (and cost them many House/Senate seats in 2018 and 2022).
You guys have a choice right now: decide that some "RINO" is ok as long as you win elections b/c it keeps the Dems out of office, or help get nut job leftists elected because you keep nominating people like Mastriano for Governor or, yes, Trump for President.
What did Sununu say about Trump at the Gridiron?
“The press often will ask me if I think Donald Trump is crazy. And I’ll say it this way: I don’t think he’s so crazy that you could put him in a mental institution. But I think if he were in one, he ain’t getting out!”
(04-24-2023 11:07 AM)gdunn Wrote: Bongino is out as well at Fox
Bongino said last week that there was no conspiracy, no dumping of him. Said it was simply a failed negotiation. No hard feelings.
With Tucker, it was a case of him venturing off the reservation regarding the messaging of Fox News. They don't like his viewpoints. Paul Ryan is busy trying to remake that network.
I think the new heads at FNC is probably making way for more left leaning anchors
I agree. CNN is also heading towards the Center, though from the other direction. The wheel is starting to turn again, it would seem. I'm sure it will turn again in the future.
those fkr's wouldn't know the center if I was prying open muh muh muh .......................
(04-24-2023 11:07 AM)gdunn Wrote: Bongino is out as well at Fox
Bongino said last week that there was no conspiracy, no dumping of him. Said it was simply a failed negotiation. No hard feelings.
With Tucker, it was a case of him venturing off the reservation regarding the messaging of Fox News. They don't like his viewpoints. Paul Ryan is busy trying to remake that network.
I think the new heads at FNC is probably making way for more left leaning anchors
I agree. CNN is also heading towards the Center, though from the other direction. The wheel is starting to turn again, it would seem. I'm sure it will turn again in the future.
You don’t get it. Corporate media isn’t changing — they are shills for government and giant corporations. That’s the problem right there and not some surface appearance of left leaning, right leaning, center leaning. FoxNews is just as a government or agencies shill as much as MSNBC but in a slightly different way
be nice ... he/it/she/zit is still holding a pail and a shovel looking for sand 'castles'...
(04-24-2023 03:01 PM)oruvoice Wrote: However you slice it, today is a win for the corporate media establishment and the swamp creatures in D.C.
However YOU slice it maybe. I'd wager there are a few here who think that Tucker was on pretty good terms with plenty of "swamp creatures" and "corporate media establishment" figures. His cardinal sin was costing his network nearly a $Billion bucks. He'll still land on his feet though, and likely end up making much more in the future than he was getting at Fox.
I honestly dont think Tucker was the big water carrier for the Dominion narrative---and thus, bears little responsibility for FOX later feeling like they need to settle the case. To be fair, if you watched Tucker's coverage, he wasnt a big cheerleader with the Dominion stuff. He talked about it, but always talked about it in terms of "if true" and was fairly hard on Sydney Powell's "proof" after her and Rudy's big highly anticipated press conference on 11/19/2020. Tuckers comments on Powell's allegations begin at the 7:47 minute mark of the video monologue. I'd say he was pretty darned even handed with respect to the allegations and made it clear Powell had refused to provide any solid factual basis to support her allegations despite numerous requests. Tucker's skepticism over the Dominion allegation wasnt just reserved for private texts---it was expressed live on the air directly to his audience.
(04-24-2023 11:42 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: lulz, so Fox agrees to pay dominion $750million. Then they part ways with Tucker and they lose $800million in market cap.
Sounds like something liberals who run things, partnered with a rino like Paul Ryan, did to our economy. And now they are doing it to one of the largest cable news company.
At least Paul Ryan could get elected, and help others around him to get elected, too. Trump infiltrated the Republican Party, magnified the most divisive parts of it, then wondered why he won only one election (and cost them many House/Senate seats in 2018 and 2022).
You guys have a choice right now: decide that some "RINO" is ok as long as you win elections b/c it keeps the Dems out of office, or help get nut job leftists elected because you keep nominating people like Mastriano for Governor or, yes, Trump for President.
What did Sununu say about Trump at the Gridiron?
“The press often will ask me if I think Donald Trump is crazy. And I’ll say it this way: I don’t think he’s so crazy that you could put him in a mental institution. But I think if he were in one, he ain’t getting out!”
Do you not understand humor?
I can’t get over his thought that a RINO can win. Mittens, Paul Ryan, Jeb Bushes and others have no chance in the general because they don’t know how to fight and why would a voter want someone slightly less than a Democrat?
Quote:Mr. Carlson, whose contract was renewed in 2021, will be paid out for the rest of his contract, people familiar with the matter said. Mr. Carlson is paid about $20 million a year, one of the people said. Mr. Carlson found out he was being let go about 10 minutes before the network announced his departure, the people said.
News Nation, a new network, thinks it can land both Carlson and Lemon.
Quote:Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson are now without a work home -- but they could land at the same place in the near future ... and that might be NewsNation, which wants 'em both.
Sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ ... the television network -- which has been growing steadily over the past few years -- is interested in potentially hiring DL and TC and adding them to their growing roster of high-profile anchors.
Quote:We're told the announcements of their oustings Monday came at a perfect time for NewsNation -- which just started running 24-hour programming starting this week.
Plus, we're told the fact both of these guys are huge, recognizable names in the news game is appealing to NewsNation honchos -- who feel like they both could bring in big swaths of a diverse audience on both the right and the left ... with NewsNation being the hub.
Quote:Now, on the issue of money ... there could be a hurdle, seeing how our sources tell us NewsNation would not pay either guy anywhere close to what they were making. In Tucker's case, we're told he's been making $20 million per year at FOX of late.
For Don, our sources tell us he's closer to $7 million/year -- and if they were gonna work at NewsNation, they'd have to be comfortable with a pretty big pay cut ... as we're told the org wouldn't be able to come anywhere close to either number. Still, though, our sources tell us their potential salaries would be fat nonetheless ... in the millions for both.
One final note ... we're told NewsNation is serious about this -- and that their executive team flew to NYC Monday to discuss this internally. So, it sounds like they might just pursue this plan -- as they clearly feel it could work out.
Quote:Mr. Carlson, whose contract was renewed in 2021, will be paid out for the rest of his contract, people familiar with the matter said. Mr. Carlson is paid about $20 million a year, one of the people said. Mr. Carlson found out he was being let go about 10 minutes before the network announced his departure, the people said.
News Nation, a new network, thinks it can land both Carlson and Lemon.
Quote:Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson are now without a work home -- but they could land at the same place in the near future ... and that might be NewsNation, which wants 'em both.
Sources with direct knowledge tell TMZ ... the television network -- which has been growing steadily over the past few years -- is interested in potentially hiring DL and TC and adding them to their growing roster of high-profile anchors.
Quote:We're told the announcements of their oustings Monday came at a perfect time for NewsNation -- which just started running 24-hour programming starting this week.
Plus, we're told the fact both of these guys are huge, recognizable names in the news game is appealing to NewsNation honchos -- who feel like they both could bring in big swaths of a diverse audience on both the right and the left ... with NewsNation being the hub.
Quote:Now, on the issue of money ... there could be a hurdle, seeing how our sources tell us NewsNation would not pay either guy anywhere close to what they were making. In Tucker's case, we're told he's been making $20 million per year at FOX of late.
For Don, our sources tell us he's closer to $7 million/year -- and if they were gonna work at NewsNation, they'd have to be comfortable with a pretty big pay cut ... as we're told the org wouldn't be able to come anywhere close to either number. Still, though, our sources tell us their potential salaries would be fat nonetheless ... in the millions for both.
One final note ... we're told NewsNation is serious about this -- and that their executive team flew to NYC Monday to discuss this internally. So, it sounds like they might just pursue this plan -- as they clearly feel it could work out.
