(03-27-2023 03:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:28 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  60+ Billion to arm Ukraine.

but we cant protect our children

The country is lost.

How would you propose that the state should have protected this private school?

They are American citizens. You think they shouldnt protect private schools? What about private business or private citizens?

If a private school wants security guards they can pay for them. If a private business wants security guards they can pay for them. If they charge 17k a year they can charge 17.5k and spend the additional funds on security.

Tax dollars should go to delivering resources to public schools. Tax dollars should go to police resources for the community as a whole.

But if you want security for a private business they need to pay for it.

(03-27-2023 03:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:28 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  60+ Billion to arm Ukraine.

but we cant protect our children

The country is lost.

How would you propose that the state should have protected this private school?

They are American citizens. You think they shouldnt protect private schools? What about private business or private citizens?

If a private school wants security guards they can pay for them. If a private business wants security guards they can pay for them. If they charge 17k a year they can charge 17.5k and spend the additional funds on security.

Tax dollars should go to delivering resources to public schools. Tax dollars should go to police resources for the community as a whole.

But if you want security for a private business they need to pay for it.

How about we fund the student, and then public/private schools hire their own security. MOney to fund the student is applied to that.

(03-27-2023 03:04 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  Every school is required to have an armed SWAT team on campus at all times. The money will come from the current budgeted money the US government provides for foreign aid. Any money left over can go to foreign countries.

Our children are worth more than foreign aid right?

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countr...by-country

Expanding on this thread.

Total Schools in the USA K-12 = 115,576

https://www.weareteachers.com/how-many-s...in-the-us/

Have 5 armed security on campus at all times students are present. Pay = $60,000 per year. Throw in free Obamacare.

115,576 x 5 = 577,880

577,880 x $60,000 = $34,672,800,00

Totally doable. Here is your solution.

(03-27-2023 04:02 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:04 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote:  Every school is required to have an armed SWAT team on campus at all times. The money will come from the current budgeted money the US government provides for foreign aid. Any money left over can go to foreign countries.

Our children are worth more than foreign aid right?

https://worldpopulationreview.com/countr...by-country

Expanding on this thread.

Total Schools in the USA K-12 = 115,576

https://www.weareteachers.com/how-many-s...in-the-us/

Have 5 armed security on campus at all times students are present. Pay = $60,000 per year. Throw in free Obamacare.

115,576 x 5 = 577,880

577,880 x $60,000 = $34,672,800,00

Totally doable. Here is your solution.

This is a real world solution

(03-27-2023 03:56 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:28 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:19 PM)shere khan Wrote:  60+ Billion to arm Ukraine.

but we cant protect our children

The country is lost.

How would you propose that the state should have protected this private school?

They are American citizens. You think they shouldnt protect private schools? What about private business or private citizens?

If a private school wants security guards they can pay for them. If a private business wants security guards they can pay for them. If they charge 17k a year they can charge 17.5k and spend the additional funds on security.

Tax dollars should go to delivering resources to public schools. Tax dollars should go to police resources for the community as a whole.

But if you want security for a private business they need to pay for it.

Lol. You really believe that? If you want etra security you pay for it

(03-27-2023 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Yikes

(03-27-2023 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Basically...Telling us about solutions without telling us solutions.

I don't have enough time to lecture you people all day every day, knowing damn well it will get picked to pieces and rejected. Go to one of the dozens of other threads where the same things have happened, of which Republicans still do nothing.

Here, I found one: Link

democrats had both houses and the executive and spent all their time on a fake "insurrection"

anyway, dont tell me what the republicans wont do.

tell us your solution. you say you have many. name one.

If my memory serves me.. Democrats just controlled both houses of Congress and the POTUS. Evidently they were keeping their solutions secret also.

What's your memory tell you about how meaningful legislation is impossible without 60 votes in the senate?

Meaningful "legislation?" To stop mass killings?

Exactly WTF would an "assault weapons ban" have done to prevent this?

Well, Democrats aren’t going to be able to use mental health as an excuse for this shooting. Can’t say that there was anything mentally wrong with a transgender person.

(03-27-2023 01:51 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  One thing would be to make sure the doies that are supposed to be locked during school hours are actually locked. Looks this shooter walked through the front door and started emptying rounds.

"I" could stop most shooting inside schools if only they'd let me. It's simple and wouldn't cost much money. But, no one wants to change things, it's "TOO TROUBLESOME".

The only way to stop mass shootings is to do what we did for plane hijackings. Tighter security.

Harder than with planes, but tough sh!t. Shere just mentioned where we blew $60B that would be a good start.

(03-27-2023 04:27 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  Well, Democrats aren’t going to be able to use mental health as an excuse for this shooting. Can’t say that there was anything mentally wrong with a transgender person.

Yep, they’ll have to revise the talking points

(03-27-2023 04:32 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The only way to stop mass shootings is to do what we did for plane hijackings. Tighter security.

Harder than with planes, but tough sh!t. Shere just mentioned where we blew $60B that would be a good start.

That and everything I outlined in post #139 page 7. They have to be taught how to accept responsibility, not deny it, and find a positive way forward for life. They are being taught the exact opposite which is why way too much of this happens.

(03-27-2023 04:09 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 03:57 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Yikes

https://www.rawstory.com/identity-of-ten...confirmed/

Looks like we need some common sense trans laws.

(03-27-2023 04:40 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Looks like we need some common sense trans laws.

Starting with people with legit mental health disorders, like gender dysphoria, should be banned from owning or purchasing firearms? Seems reasonable.

The Nashville school shooter was a biological female who 'identified as male' and used he/him pronouns. As DC_Draino notes, Hale had some disturbing artwork:

Quote: A sample of art from Audrey Hale’s website pic.twitter.com/6aSQr1Fm0E

— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) March 27, 2023

Though we admittedly do not yet know all the facts, its sounds and looks like a classic hate crime.

What difference does it make if they're trans? No one has been talking about gun laws or what we should do, while specifically excluding whatever alphabet soup diversity wokeness you guys can fear up. The fact that this is coming from Charlie Kirk, who has a monetary incentive to drive up culture war nonsense, should be telling enough? Are you all so easily distracted?