(03-27-2023 01:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:41 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:23 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  We've been talking solutions since Sandy Hook, and still nothing has changed. Solutions won't be coming from y'all, it will be coming despite you, if it comes at all.

So..You have no solution. Thanks.

I have plenty of solutions. I just know better than to share them here to deaf ears, upon people that will ignore it anyway, and change nothing.

That has to be the most juvenile thing I have ever read on here. And there are some real good ones to compare it to.

Basically...Telling us about solutions without telling us solutions.

I don't have enough time to lecture you people all day every day, knowing damn well it will get picked to pieces and rejected. Go to one of the dozens of other threads where the same things have happened, of which Republicans still do nothing.

Here, I found one: Link

(03-27-2023 01:48 PM)b2b Wrote:  We live in a morally and spiritually bankrupt society. This is one of the consequences unfortunately.

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Crudesick has the answers. He won’t tell us but one thing I’m confident in, none of them include God.

(03-27-2023 12:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  This is a fancy dancy school too. Its not some inner city hell hole.

Seems like most of the school shootings happen at schools in wealthier areas honestly.

(03-27-2023 01:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:41 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  So..You have no solution. Thanks.

I have plenty of solutions. I just know better than to share them here to deaf ears, upon people that will ignore it anyway, and change nothing.

That has to be the most juvenile thing I have ever read on here. And there are some real good ones to compare it to.

Basically...Telling us about solutions without telling us solutions.

I don't have enough time to lecture you people all day every day, knowing damn well it will get picked to pieces and rejected. Go to one of the dozens of other threads where the same things have happened, of which Republicans still do nothing.

Here, I found one: Link

democrats had both houses and the executive and spent all their time on a fake "insurrection"

anyway, dont tell me what the republicans wont do.

tell us your solution. you say you have many. name one.

(03-27-2023 01:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:41 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  So..You have no solution. Thanks.

I have plenty of solutions. I just know better than to share them here to deaf ears, upon people that will ignore it anyway, and change nothing.

That has to be the most juvenile thing I have ever read on here. And there are some real good ones to compare it to.

Basically...Telling us about solutions without telling us solutions.

I don't have enough time to lecture you people all day every day, knowing damn well it will get picked to pieces and rejected. Go to one of the dozens of other threads where the same things have happened, of which Republicans still do nothing.

Here, I found one: Link

Bad ideas and stupidity tend to get picked to pieces.

(03-27-2023 01:08 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:04 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  Updated my OP, shooter was not a teenage girl but a 28 year old woman

This is just awful. The mental health in this country continues to go backwards.

Yep. Working in healthcare, although on the administrative side, I see that people are in a bad place as a whole. Seems like every chart I review patients are dealing with psychological issues in addition to acute health issues. In addition to that they are all battling substance abuses as well. Terrible combination.

A couple years ago my wife had to have surgery and all the nurses were gushing over all "clean and healthy" she otherwise was. They said they were used to dealing with patients who were heavy smokers, addicted to drugs, had track marks on their arms, were 50-60 pounds+ overweight, etc. Its a sad world we live in and we have devolved as a species.

(03-27-2023 01:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:41 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I have plenty of solutions. I just know better than to share them here to deaf ears, upon people that will ignore it anyway, and change nothing.

That has to be the most juvenile thing I have ever read on here. And there are some real good ones to compare it to.

Basically...Telling us about solutions without telling us solutions.

I don't have enough time to lecture you people all day every day, knowing damn well it will get picked to pieces and rejected. Go to one of the dozens of other threads where the same things have happened, of which Republicans still do nothing.

Here, I found one: Link

democrats had both houses and the executive and spent all their time on a fake "insurrection"

anyway, dont tell me what the republicans wont do.

tell us your solution. you say you have many. name one.

If my memory serves me.. Democrats just controlled both houses of Congress and the POTUS. Evidently they were keeping their solutions secret also.

(03-27-2023 12:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Where was the good teenage girl with a gun to stop all of this?

Some of us know the family of the officer that had to shoot and kill the girl/woman you moronic feces of existence. Save your mental wokeness for something else.

Looks like it wasnt a student as well.

(03-27-2023 12:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Where was the good teenage girl with a gun to stop all of this?

...or the armed and trained teacher?

(03-27-2023 02:00 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 12:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Where was the good teenage girl with a gun to stop all of this?

...or the armed and trained teacher?

Probably hiding behind the dumpster with his tax payer paid weapon like the Parkland officer.

(03-27-2023 01:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:41 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  That has to be the most juvenile thing I have ever read on here. And there are some real good ones to compare it to.

Basically...Telling us about solutions without telling us solutions.

I don't have enough time to lecture you people all day every day, knowing damn well it will get picked to pieces and rejected. Go to one of the dozens of other threads where the same things have happened, of which Republicans still do nothing.

Here, I found one: Link

democrats had both houses and the executive and spent all their time on a fake "insurrection"

anyway, dont tell me what the republicans wont do.

tell us your solution. you say you have many. name one.

If my memory serves me.. Democrats just controlled both houses of Congress and the POTUS. Evidently they were keeping their solutions secret also.

What's your memory tell you about how meaningful legislation is impossible without 60 votes in the senate?

(03-27-2023 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:44 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Basically...Telling us about solutions without telling us solutions.

I don't have enough time to lecture you people all day every day, knowing damn well it will get picked to pieces and rejected. Go to one of the dozens of other threads where the same things have happened, of which Republicans still do nothing.

Here, I found one: Link

democrats had both houses and the executive and spent all their time on a fake "insurrection"

anyway, dont tell me what the republicans wont do.

tell us your solution. you say you have many. name one.

If my memory serves me.. Democrats just controlled both houses of Congress and the POTUS. Evidently they were keeping their solutions secret also.

What's your memory tell you about how meaningful legislation is impossible without 60 votes in the senate?

How'd the piece of sh*t legislation Obamacare get passed? You know, the one where you didnt understand what an insurance deductible was.

(03-27-2023 01:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:23 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:16 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Oh my bad, I'll wait a week until you all forget about this then say the same thing again. Better?

What is your solution?

We've been talking solutions since Sandy Hook, and still nothing has changed. Solutions won't be coming from y'all, it will be coming despite you, if it comes at all.

So..You have no solution. Thanks.

I have plenty of solutions. I just know better than to share them here to deaf ears, upon people that will ignore it anyway, and change nothing.

What a whoreshit answer that is. Eliminating gun ownership is not that answer... and I am pretty sure your answer includes that as art of your secret plan..

There clearly are too many guns out on the streets and too many people who do not carry them legally. The reality is that anyone who owns a gun illegally already is not going to just hand them over because that is the new law. They already don't care about thew law.

Like everything else Democratic in nature, you want to establish every rule and law against the lowest common denominator.... which creates a helpless and very very dumb society.

So I guess you are smart to not share your genius plans after all.

(03-27-2023 02:04 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:55 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  I don't have enough time to lecture you people all day every day, knowing damn well it will get picked to pieces and rejected. Go to one of the dozens of other threads where the same things have happened, of which Republicans still do nothing.

Here, I found one: Link

democrats had both houses and the executive and spent all their time on a fake "insurrection"

anyway, dont tell me what the republicans wont do.

tell us your solution. you say you have many. name one.

If my memory serves me.. Democrats just controlled both houses of Congress and the POTUS. Evidently they were keeping their solutions secret also.

What's your memory tell you about how meaningful legislation is impossible without 60 votes in the senate?

How'd the piece of sh*t legislation Obamacare get passed? You know, the one where you didnt understand what an insurance deductible was.

Touche'

(03-27-2023 01:53 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 12:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  This is a fancy dancy school too. Its not some inner city hell hole.

Seems like most of the school shootings happen at schools in wealthier areas honestly.

The inner city shootings don't make National News. I'll leave it up to you to figure out why.

(03-27-2023 02:05 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:33 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:23 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  What is your solution?

We've been talking solutions since Sandy Hook, and still nothing has changed. Solutions won't be coming from y'all, it will be coming despite you, if it comes at all.

So..You have no solution. Thanks.

I have plenty of solutions. I just know better than to share them here to deaf ears, upon people that will ignore it anyway, and change nothing.

What a whoreshit answer that is. Eliminating gun ownership is not that answer... and I am pretty sure your answer includes that as art of your secret plan..

There clearly are too many guns out on the streets and too many people who do not carry them legally. The reality is that anyone who owns a gun illegally already is not going to just hand them over because that is the new law. They already don't care about thew law.

Like everything else Democratic in nature, you want to establish every rule and law against the lowest common denominator.... which creates a helpless and very very dumb society.

So I guess you are smart to not share your genius plans after all.

Aren't you the one that creeps all over people's past posts trying to make some sort of gotcha? You should know all about my views by now.

TN already in trouble for their Drag bill. Maybe D’s will stop moving there.

And there's all kinds of solutions. Next to all our impossible as long as you keep voting for Republicans.

1. Ban assault weapons.
2. Increased and or mandatory waiting periods.
3. Enhanced background checks.
4. Mandatory mental health evaluations.
5. Mandatory insurance if you're going to own a firearm.
6. Increased age limits on purchases.
7. Mandatory training and periodic certification.
8. Required licenses to own firearms.
9. Universal health care so mental health issues can be treated affordably.

And GFY if you're going to come at me with definitions and semantics. **** them.

(03-27-2023 01:53 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 12:16 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  This is a fancy dancy school too. Its not some inner city hell hole.

Seems like most of the school shootings happen at schools in wealthier areas honestly.

I'm sure there are a lot of reasons to explain why. I've been in rural, suburban and inner city schools. Seems like the security in the suburban schools is not as good as the inner-city school. I was at my kid's suburban school on Friday and brought in my son's music instrument. Nobody stopped me at the door, just rung me in as I waived. As I walked through the school I noticed a staff member let some other adults in through a side door (could have been teachers or other staff but they were let in without any questions). If I were in the inner city I would have been checked in by security staff.

The other thing, and I am sure there are studies that support this, is there is actually a lot of poverty in suburban schools. I know in my own school district, which is considered "nice" that there are families that live in subsidized housing, cheap apartments, etc. Families have moved in because of the "good" schools. Not saying poverty equates to violence, I am just saying that some of the schools considered "wealthy" are entirely comprised of "wealthy" families.

Finally, and related to my last paragraph, just because a family is upper middle class or better it doesn't mean they are immune to mental health issues. In fact, they may be more prone to it. I grew up in and around poverty- to be honest with you I didn't realize I was poor or had some unusual issues in my family until I met kids who grew up with more of a "traditional" background. And yet, the people I've known in my life who did not grow up with the adversity that I did seem to be worse for the wear.

(03-27-2023 01:39 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:35 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:23 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-27-2023 01:18 PM)shere khan Wrote:  What is your solution?

We've been talking solutions since Sandy Hook, and still nothing has changed. Solutions won't be coming from y'all, it will be coming despite you, if it comes at all.

What is your solution?

His solution is to sit around and b!tch about guns.

Bringing back a swift death penalty would likely deter some crimes.

Public hanging. Use to work OK.

Quote:No, there is no credible evidence that the death penalty deters crime more effectively than long terms of imprisonment. States that have death penalty laws do not have lower crime rates or murder rates than states without such laws.

Capital Punishment does not deter crime. And if the shooter is already dead it is a moot point.