(03-22-2023 09:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  You guys are obviously not old enough to have watched the Lone Ranger in your youth.

Can you even imagine if they made the lone ranger today how utterly fricked up it would be

(03-23-2023 07:42 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-22-2023 09:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  You guys are obviously not old enough to have watched the Lone Ranger in your youth.

Can you even imagine if they made the lone ranger today how utterly fricked up it would be

Didn't you watch the movie they did a few years ago with Jack Sparrow playing Tonto?

(03-23-2023 07:59 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 07:42 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-22-2023 09:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  You guys are obviously not old enough to have watched the Lone Ranger in your youth.

Can you even imagine if they made the lone ranger today how utterly fricked up it would be

Didn't you watch the movie they did a few years ago with Jack Sparrow playing Tonto?

awful

(03-23-2023 07:42 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-22-2023 09:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  You guys are obviously not old enough to have watched the Lone Ranger in your youth.

Can you even imagine if they made the lone ranger today how utterly fricked up it would be

They did that years ago with Johnny Depp as Tonto. Terrible.

(03-23-2023 08:15 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 07:59 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 07:42 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-22-2023 09:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  You guys are obviously not old enough to have watched the Lone Ranger in your youth.

Can you even imagine if they made the lone ranger today how utterly fricked up it would be

Didn't you watch the movie they did a few years ago with Jack Sparrow playing Tonto?

awful

Exactly..

(03-23-2023 08:15 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 07:59 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 07:42 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-22-2023 09:48 PM)TripleA Wrote:  You guys are obviously not old enough to have watched the Lone Ranger in your youth.

Can you even imagine if they made the lone ranger today how utterly fricked up it would be

Didn't you watch the movie they did a few years ago with Jack Sparrow playing Tonto?

awful

The left makes a farce out of (and ruins) pretty much everything. Years ago the Academy Awards used to be decent to watch as well. Not today.

Can't watch a TV show, a movie, or a commercial today with having gays, interracial couples, transgenders, etc. pushed upon you as if it's the dominant thing in society these days.

(03-23-2023 07:39 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(03-22-2023 11:37 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-22-2023 10:55 PM)450bench Wrote:  My point to you, tanq, is that your distain for Trump robs you of the ability to be objective. And that detracts from any point you make, even if your point had/has merit.

Yes I dislike Trump.

What precisely is incorrect about my statements, due to that dislike?

Not any generalized comment like that 'wow you dont like Trump.' What specifically have I said that is unfair, untrue, or deceptive.

Im all ears.

My profession, I *have* to be objective. I *have* to get over a distaste of a client -- I *have* to provide the *best*, most candid assessment I can.

And, honestly, I do a pretty good job of that.

Quote:Much like Owl’s reply to your question earlier in the thread, when you review the history, dating back to 2016, it’s difficult to support the effort the left is placing on the latest Trump quest.

Do you realize I just dumped on the NY issue, in that getting a felony is going to be a real hard road to hoe?

If I am so die hard non-objective, wouldnt you find that a tad odd?

And, I can point you to another discussion with #s earlier today, in the Rice forum, where we discussed the earlier issues. Many of those earlier issues I cam down squarely on 'wow, they have a hard on for Trump.' Try the Rice board and look at my comments there.

So please dont tell me how I blind myself one way or the other. I actually have a record there -- look at it.

In order, Trump faced an unfair and unwarranted attack via the Steele dossier and through the Mueller investigation.

The first impeachment of him was based on very thin grounds -- it should have never been launched.

Im *on record* as supporting him and his position on those. Seriously.

When it comes to 1/6, I am harsh on Trump. His actions leading to 1/6 were disgusting. I cannot believe that someone so thoroughly tried to bork the process of certification, even without the issue of the riot.

I am a very harsh critic of how he handled himself during the Capitol riot. Bummer. I call those as I see them.

As for MAL, I dont see the giant conspiracy that many here see. I do see a guy who lied to the Archives, lied under oath to the DOJ about having stuff, and ultimately threw the middle finger enough times he got his ass searched and the items he shouldnt have had seized.

In the NY Cohen case, I think at worst this should be a misdemeanor.

I dont know enough about Georgia, or the other aspects of the Special Prosecutor's case to have an opinion. But I am *not* going to kneejerk and yell he is guilty, nor not guilty as many do here for those issues.

Quote:While people like me didn’t like Clinton, he was still a good President. We can admit that, in fairness. He also had a hand in making some of us wealthy in a way we didn’t view as possible.

I freely admit that Trump did many things I supported. Criminy, I even voted for the guy in '20.

I cant stand how he has, at least to me, taken a giant **** on the electoral process in the events leading to 1/6. He, being Trump, simply flipped the finger at the process that was going to render a result he didnt like. And no, I cannot condone doing that. At all.

Quote:Trump was a good President, better than good actually. And he helped make some of us even more wealthy. Even the less fortunate saw an uptick in everything monetary and that’s great.

I would agree partially. On the whole there were many things I liked and supported. I have said this many times. That doesnt blind me to what I consider to be some very serious shortcomings.

Quote:But a faction of the population have an agenda and allow that agenda to harpoon their ability to be objective.

What about my positions above are 'an agenda' and render my ability to be objective to nothing?

Look I respect your opinion. I cannot rip a genuinely held opinion. Even when it differs from mine. In short, your view on the good that Trump did is positive. It tends potentially to you overlooking some serious stuff.

My view is that there is a deal of good that Trump did in office. Again, I voted for him in '20, when I did not do so in '16.

My view is also, during the run up to 1/6, he absolutely attempted to subvert the process. He may have genuinely believed that he did not lose -- but, even then -- he seriously tried to mess with those rules and processes that have done us fairly well for the last 240+ years. Solely for his benefit, imo.

In my book that is inexcusable. That does not 'flow over' into a 'anything to get Trump mode' as some seem to think that I hold. Again, as an example, the issue currently in New York should be no more than a misdemeanor. Does that sound like an unobjective Get Trump No Matter What position?

Thank you for the calm and considered language and tone in your post. Hopefully this reciprocates that.

I might have missed it, but can you point to the post where you show your disdain for the absolute criminal in office at the moment.

I just see the broken record on Trump.



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The search function works well here, and I have made those comments about Biden.

(03-18-2023 12:22 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 11:57 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.

To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.

It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective. But then again I dont know what Cohen's testimony is/ was/ will be.

To that effect, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.

Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.

bwahahahahahahahahaha

(03-23-2023 09:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 12:22 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 11:57 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.

To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.

It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective. But then again I dont know what Cohen's testimony is/ was/ will be.

To that effect, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.

Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.

bwahahahahahahahahaha

When you read it carefully, there arent many surprises in it. It dances around the subject pretty well. And, read Cohen's allocution.

Or, read what I said earlier where the upgrading to felony is going to doesnt seem really viable to me.

Oh look, its *actually* in the item you re-posted itself. You didnt even notice it --

Quote:Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.

Basic forms of reading comprehension and retention dont seem to be really heavy in your wheelhouse, are they? Krist on a cracker. Lolz.

I'm sure all the small government conservatives here will also be outraged at the unprecedented federal government interference into state and local affairs, AMIRITE?

(03-23-2023 09:26 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 12:22 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-18-2023 11:57 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

As opposed to the tweet, there may very well be a crime. But, the crime would/should be a misdemeanor. It almost always is charged as a state level misdemeanor.

To make an impact beyond a misdemeanor, the NY prosecutor has to show that the payoff was not just a political benefit, but Trump intentionally made the payoff as a political purpose.

It is a somewhat easy misdemeanor charge. Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective. But then again I dont know what Cohen's testimony is/ was/ will be.

To that effect, Michael Cohen's testimony is pretty crucial as to the aspect that underlies the misdemeanor/ felony difference. The bagman/ payoff conduit typically has pretty good first hand evidence of intent of the person that told him what to do.

Maybe Trump shouldnt have done a Trump and rolled the bus over on Cohen as he did 3-4 years ago........ Never a good thing to roll the bus over on your bagman.

bwahahahahahahahahaha

When you read it carefully, there arent many surprises in it. It dances around the subject pretty well. And, read Cohen's allocution.

Or, read what I said earlier where the upgrading to felony is going to doesnt seem really viable to me.

Oh look, its *actually* in the item you re-posted itself. You didnt even notice it --

Quote:Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.

Basic forms of reading comprehension and retention dont seem to be really heavy in your wheelhouse, are they? Krist on a cracker. Lolz.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

even had to throw in some religious bigotry and blasphemy

bwahahahahahahahahahaha

man never stop you frick it up at every turn

very very amusing

(03-23-2023 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm sure all the small government conservatives here will also be outraged at the unprecedented federal government interference into state and local affairs, AMIRITE?

The things you post as victories are downright hilarious.

(03-23-2023 09:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm sure all the small government conservatives here will also be outraged at the unprecedented federal government interference into state and local affairs, AMIRITE?

The things you post as victories are downright hilarious.

Filth think they are so clever then get slapped in the mouth. I love it.

(03-23-2023 09:35 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:26 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  bwahahahahahahahahaha

When you read it carefully, there arent many surprises in it. It dances around the subject pretty well. And, read Cohen's allocution.

Or, read what I said earlier where the upgrading to felony is going to doesnt seem really viable to me.

Oh look, its *actually* in the item you re-posted itself. You didnt even notice it --

Quote:Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.

Basic forms of reading comprehension and retention dont seem to be really heavy in your wheelhouse, are they? Krist on a cracker. Lolz.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

even had to throw in some religious bigotry and blasphemy didnt you commietom

Lolz. Cant even get whom you are responding to straight in your mind in your 'Tigger angst' tantrum....

Yep, that 'reeeeeeeee' certainly does fit here, Tigger. Maybe just not in way you thought it might. Double lolz.

Quote:Filth think they are so clever

And you cant even get straight who the flip you are talking to. Brilliant!!! Triple lolz.

Cant wait to see more of what appears to be an ADHD spell coming on with you and your tantrums.

Wait until Bragg is held in contempt.

(03-23-2023 09:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:35 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:26 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  bwahahahahahahahahaha

When you read it carefully, there arent many surprises in it. It dances around the subject pretty well. And, read Cohen's allocution.

Or, read what I said earlier where the upgrading to felony is going to doesnt seem really viable to me.

Oh look, its *actually* in the item you re-posted itself. You didnt even notice it --

Quote:Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.

Basic forms of reading comprehension and retention dont seem to be really heavy in your wheelhouse, are they? Krist on a cracker. Lolz.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

even had to throw in some religious bigotry and blasphemy

Lolz. Cant even get whom you are responding to straight in your mind in your 'Tigger angst' tantrum....

Yep, that 'reeeeeeeee' certainly does fit here, Tigger. Maybe just not in way you thought it might. Double lolz.

well i edited that out which in typical fashion you ignore. i consider you both on about on the same level so it matters not. maybe you actually understand insurance deductibles so you might edge him out by a frog hair.

tigger angst .... you really arent good at this.

(03-23-2023 09:43 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Wait until Bragg is held in contempt.

we will get a 4 page legal opinion from the angry drunk attorney on why Bragg has got heem

cant wait

(03-23-2023 09:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm sure all the small government conservatives here will also be outraged at the unprecedented federal government interference into state and local affairs, AMIRITE?

The things you post as victories are downright hilarious.

You thinking this was touting a victory is downright hilarious. Dude, it's more evidence that a bunch of posters here are raging hypocrites.

(03-23-2023 09:47 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:43 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:35 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:26 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(03-23-2023 09:18 AM)shere khan Wrote:  bwahahahahahahahahaha

When you read it carefully, there arent many surprises in it. It dances around the subject pretty well. And, read Cohen's allocution.

Or, read what I said earlier where the upgrading to felony is going to doesnt seem really viable to me.

Oh look, its *actually* in the item you re-posted itself. You didnt even notice it --

Quote:Much harder to make the felony effort as has been reported. A pretty big stretch from my perspective.

Basic forms of reading comprehension and retention dont seem to be really heavy in your wheelhouse, are they? Krist on a cracker. Lolz.

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

even had to throw in some religious bigotry and blasphemy didnt you commietom

Lolz. Cant even get whom you are responding to straight in your mind in your 'Tigger angst' tantrum....

Yep, that 'reeeeeeeee' certainly does fit here, Tigger. Maybe just not in way you thought it might. Double lolz.

well i edited that out which in typical fashion you ignore. i consider you both on about on the same level so it matters not. maybe you actually understand insurance deductibles so you might edge him out by a frog hair.

tigger angst .... you really arent good at this.

Dude, you cant even keep straight who you are yelling at at the time. Fing brilliant.... thanks for the comedy this morning in your 'dawn sunlight' spat of apoplexy. Lolz.