(03-12-2023 07:52 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  A few thoughts:

* I likely would have put Marquette as a No. 1 seed over Purdue (though it would be very close)

* Texas A&M as a No. 7 seed? That is ridiculous. The Aggies were deserving of at least a six and maybe even a four. On a positive note if you are a TAMU fan, this should give your team a boulder-sized shoulder chip.

* As a long-time North Carolina fan — and it almost pains me to say it — I'm kind of glad the Heels were not invited. First, they didn't deserve it. Second, UNC could have gotten manhandled early in the tourney. No NIT action for Carolina (likely a good move to decline) so time to lick the wounds and regroup for next season.

* Vanderbilt failed to make it but I was mentally prepared for that. The Dores simply had too many losses (14) — and a bad final game vs. TAMU didn't help. We got close — but not sufficiently so. I will be excited to see how Vandy does in the NIT.

Very kind to think of us as a #1, Bill. Purdue beat us and believe our ceiling was always a #2 (with a little help too). I think we are exactly where we should be.

No one will be able to prove it, but I 100% believe A&M was wrongly seeded after Buzz's public criticisms of the committee last year. They shouldn't be a #7. However, if there is any coach that can get a team to play with a chip on its shoulder, it's Buzz. Their OOC schedule did them no favors either.

(03-12-2023 09:08 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Conference bids by seed lines 1-3:

4 B12
2 P12
2 BE
1 AAC
1 B1G
1 SEC
1 WCC

Why stop at 3, wouldn’t 4 make more sense?

(03-12-2023 09:44 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 09:08 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Conference bids by seed lines 1-3:

4 B12
2 P12
2 BE
1 AAC
1 B1G
1 SEC
1 WCC

Why stop at 3, wouldn’t 4 make more sense?

I mean, draw the cutoff line where you want. That said, since 1985 the National Champion has been crowned from the following seeds:

1 - 24
2 - 5
3 - 4
4 - 1
6 - 1
7 - 1
8 - 1

(03-12-2023 10:14 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 09:44 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 09:08 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  Conference bids by seed lines 1-3:

4 B12
2 P12
2 BE
1 AAC
1 B1G
1 SEC
1 WCC

Why stop at 3, wouldn’t 4 make more sense?

I mean, draw the cutoff line where you want. That said, since 1985 the National Champion has been crowned from the following seeds:

1 - 24
2 - 5
3 - 4
4 - 1
6 - 1
7 - 1
8 - 1

How about conference bids up to the 15th seed? That's a good cutoff.

(03-12-2023 08:12 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 06:34 PM)JSchmack Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 06:27 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Providence as an 11 is ridiculous. They were ACTUALLY on the bubble?!

Marquette had a case to be a 1.

UConn is a 2/3 - they were solid all year.

This is coming from a Big East hater.

You have to remember that half the guys in the room are P5 guys and while they're making the bracket, they ALL KNOW that they'd dividing TV money with their decisions.

And that's why Memphis and FAU are playing each other, VCU and Saint Mary's are playing each other, and San Diego State isn't drawing the "always one-bid Summit" champ but playing the team with the .906 win percentage.

If you were trying ensure the most flow of money into the P5, you'd set the members of the Big East, American, MWC, WCC, MVC and A-10 to play each other every chance you get, to limit how many can possibly make the Sweet 16...

Not that drawing the Summit team would been much better this time around. Oral Bob is actually good.

They're all good, it's just the degree to which they're good.

I just wish that we as a society, would stop holding pointless arguments about how messed up the selection process is for 48 hours between the Selection Show and First Four tip-off and actually just like, demand they fix this stupid process.

Everyone's regurgitating the usual talking points about SOS, OOC SOS, Quad 1 wins, etc... All of those things are INCLUDED in NET, yet they keep ignoring NET to move teams around based on how they feel about COMPONENTS of NET.

Best example is the fact that Iowa and Rutgers basically have the exact same resume, so much so that the NET puts them right next to each other and #39 and #40, and one is an 8 seed and one is not in the field. Well, Iowa has a much better OOC SOS... so much better they're #39 and #40 in the NET that considers that! But Iowa beat Rutgers twice! And Rutgers beat Penn State twice, and the committee's seed lines say that wins over PSU should be worth more than wins over Rutgers!

(I don't have a dog in this fight. My team lost every single player from last year and never had a prayer; my conference was a one-bid league for the second time in our history; I honestly don't care if Iowa or Rutgers is in the field. I just want a non-moving target and a fair and equitable system that makes sense).

They partnered with Google to make a revolutionary system that includes everything they want to include in consideration, and it can't even get the easy teams right: #1 overall tournament seed: #2 in NET.

Make a good, non-secret formula that does the best you can and ranking teams; that would require teams trying to game the system to actually do what you need to do to be considered a good team.

(03-12-2023 05:15 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Houston has to play Auburn in Birmingham Round 2

Without their best player.

(03-12-2023 05:28 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  The media influence stinks so darned hard in these seedings. Saint Mary’s deserved better.

Everyone is predicting they'll lose easy.

(03-12-2023 05:36 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Sparty another team that I’d kick out.

That's not allowed per NCAA selection rules.

(03-12-2023 05:41 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Potential Purdue/Memphis 2nd round game? With how Purdue handles the press?

I watched today's game, looks like they have one player and that's it. All their white guards really choked today. They did their best to blow a 17 point lead with 319 seconds left.

(03-12-2023 05:48 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Heh, when you look at the comparison between Nevada and Oklahoma State, I mean, it’s really record and NET making the save for the Wolfpack. Committee Chair is saying they expected more Q1 wins. Again, UNR…4-5 and more Q3 losses. Oof.

4 MWC teams? Seems like too much.

(03-12-2023 05:56 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 05:45 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  I wonder where Memphis would be without that win over Houston.

I bet they flipped Memphis from a 9 to an 8 bc of the win, but kept the game exactly the same.

That's why there shouldn't be Champ Games on Sunday.

(03-12-2023 11:29 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 05:15 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Houston has to play Auburn in Birmingham Round 2

Without their best player.

Sasser will play. He was only held out of the game today because we weren’t playing for anything.

(03-12-2023 06:40 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  I’m low key worried about Memphis in the second round, tbh.

Definitely should be. Today proved Eady + 0. Nice 1H by #14 was all the help he got. Smith and Fletchy seem awful.

(03-12-2023 11:36 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 05:48 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Heh, when you look at the comparison between Nevada and Oklahoma State, I mean, it’s really record and NET making the save for the Wolfpack. Committee Chair is saying they expected more Q1 wins. Again, UNR…4-5 and more Q3 losses. Oof.

4 MWC teams? Seems like too much.

I mean, the MW was rated higher than the ACC and Pac-12, so I hope you're of the same opinion with those conferences.

(03-12-2023 08:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 08:18 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  Not gonna lie I was hoping for the West regional so I could go to the S16 games in Vegas. Other than that don’t really see much of a difference between playing in the West/Midwest. Solid teams in both regions but none that I absolutely don’t want to play.

Your team might need you and your friends Saturday in Birmingham, because they'll be playing a road game.

We’re better on the road so bring it on, but I have a feeling we’ll be playing Iowa in the 2nd round

(03-12-2023 11:41 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 11:29 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 05:15 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Houston has to play Auburn in Birmingham Round 2

Without their best player.

Sasser will play. He was only held out of the game today because we weren’t playing for anything.

Hopefully for Cougars sake. I expected a closer game without him anyway. That way they could probably sit him until Sweet 16.

(03-12-2023 11:42 PM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 11:36 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 05:48 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Heh, when you look at the comparison between Nevada and Oklahoma State, I mean, it’s really record and NET making the save for the Wolfpack. Committee Chair is saying they expected more Q1 wins. Again, UNR…4-5 and more Q3 losses. Oof.

4 MWC teams? Seems like too much.

I mean, the MW was rated higher than the ACC and Pac-12, so I hope you're of the same opinion with those conferences.

Nah not really. Never a PAC basketball fan, the Conference is usually bad outside top 2 teams. No MWC would beat the top ACC teams, so I'm fine they got 5 in. Or did you have Utah State beating Duke by 20?

A-10 has gone from 6 bids in 2014 to 1 in 2023. Good thing they added a 15th team.

(03-12-2023 11:44 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 11:42 PM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 11:36 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 05:48 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Heh, when you look at the comparison between Nevada and Oklahoma State, I mean, it’s really record and NET making the save for the Wolfpack. Committee Chair is saying they expected more Q1 wins. Again, UNR…4-5 and more Q3 losses. Oof.

4 MWC teams? Seems like too much.

I mean, the MW was rated higher than the ACC and Pac-12, so I hope you're of the same opinion with those conferences.

Nah not really. Never a PAC basketball fan, the Conference is usually bad outside top 2 teams. No MWC would beat the top ACC teams, so I'm fine they got 5 in. Or did you have Utah State beating Duke by 20?

The top of the ACC is what, Virginia, Duke, and Miami? After that is a bunch of very flawed teams. If the ACC deserved 5, then the MW deserved 4.

Sorry, allow me to change my tune: All hail our power conference overlords, we are not worthy. We're grateful for any crumbs you can spare for us peasants.

(03-12-2023 11:29 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  

(03-12-2023 05:15 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Houston has to play Auburn in Birmingham Round 2

Without their best player.

Sasser will certainly be back by then, let alone the 1-16 game.