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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 06:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 12:45 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 12:26 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Remaining Schedules of those competing for the 8th seed. As others have pointed out, indeed EMU controls it’s own destiny. Of those currently tied for the 8th spot, EMU has a 2-0 tie breaking record, CMU 2-1, and Miami 0-3. If Bowling Green beats EMU, will significantly hurt EMU on both the overall record as well as the tiebreaker record.

EMU (5-11): @BGSU, @NIU

CMU (5-11): VsToledo, @WMU

Miami (5-11): @WMU, @Buffalo

BGSU (4-12): VsEMU, @Ohio

WMU (3-13): VsMiami, VsCMU

Key games TUESDAY: IF EMU wins and TOL beats CMU. BG and CMU are out (I think). BG can't get to 6 wins and we hold the tie breaker over CMU if both are 6 - 12).

Then If Miami loses to UB, we're even even at 6 - 12 as we hold the tie breaker over Miami.

Anyone disagree???

The EMU-BowlingGreen game is indeed huge with regard to this 8th Seed. If EMU wins, then will eliminate both Bowling Green and WMU. However, don’t get too excited, I know BowlingGreen is on like a nine game losing streak BUT all of their games have been competitive (no blowouts). So BowlingGreen is well poised to break their losing streak at home against another struggling team such as EMU…just as EMU was poised to break their own losing streak at home against another struggling team such as WMU this week.

I just did a long post and mentioned Miggy. Should have added RamyEMU.

Miggy talked about a game Jan 3, almost 2 months ago.

RamyEMU and I are discussing what is the meaning of going through a scheduling gauntlet and a 'recency effect' (most recent games).

I predict BG will come out flat. I know the game is in BG. Senior night. But if you've been thru hell, you've been thru hell. BG has been through hoops hell.

I predict BG sees EMU on their schedule and starts licking their chops on an easy victory.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 10:04 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 06:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 12:45 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 12:26 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  Remaining Schedules of those competing for the 8th seed. As others have pointed out, indeed EMU controls it’s own destiny. Of those currently tied for the 8th spot, EMU has a 2-0 tie breaking record, CMU 2-1, and Miami 0-3. If Bowling Green beats EMU, will significantly hurt EMU on both the overall record as well as the tiebreaker record.

EMU (5-11): @BGSU, @NIU

CMU (5-11): VsToledo, @WMU

Miami (5-11): @WMU, @Buffalo

BGSU (4-12): VsEMU, @Ohio

WMU (3-13): VsMiami, VsCMU

Key games TUESDAY: IF EMU wins and TOL beats CMU. BG and CMU are out (I think). BG can't get to 6 wins and we hold the tie breaker over CMU if both are 6 - 12).

Then If Miami loses to UB, we're even even at 6 - 12 as we hold the tie breaker over Miami.

Anyone disagree???

The EMU-BowlingGreen game is indeed huge with regard to this 8th Seed. If EMU wins, then will eliminate both Bowling Green and WMU. However, don’t get too excited, I know BowlingGreen is on like a nine game losing streak BUT all of their games have been competitive (no blowouts). So BowlingGreen is well poised to break their losing streak at home against another struggling team such as EMU…just as EMU was poised to break their own losing streak at home against another struggling team such as WMU this week.

I just did a long post and mentioned Miggy. Should have added RamyEMU.

Miggy talked about a game Jan 3, almost 2 months ago.

RamyEMU and I are discussing what is the meaning of going through a scheduling gauntlet and a 'recency effect' (most recent games).

I predict BG will come out flat. I know the game is in BG. Senior night. But if you've been thru hell, you've been thru hell. BG has been through hoops hell.

I predict BG sees EMU on their schedule and starts licking their chops on an easy victory.

Steve makes some interesting points. One is that BG is on a 6-game losing streak against some decent MAC teams. In most games BG's offense has been decent but their defense was terrible. In many ways EMU is similar to BG, as EMU can at times score well and it's defense sucks unless opponents are just plain off as BS was in the last game.

BG did score 91-points as it beat EMU by 26-points on our home-court in the first match-up, and that is not even factoring in that BG shot few free throws as the refs were favorable to the home team, and the opposite favoritism is likely to occur at BG tonight.

Plus, EMU simply doesn't defend three's and BG has a plethora of good three-point shooters who destroyed EMU last time out by scoring 30- points on 10 made three's. Also, BG has good players who can score at the rim, and EMU does not defend the rim. No surprise that BG shot 58 percent on two's at EMU.

Does EMU have more high caliber players? I think so.

But given that EMU defensive system is so bad, I can only see EMU beating BG if he he has his players force BG shooters far out, get in their grill, and make all BG three point shooters to dribble
Or pass the ball. Will Heath do that? No way.

Nor will he have his bigs defend the rim, with one confronting any drive from the perimeter. If he does both. EmU should win. Since he's not likely to, the season for all practical purposes should end tonight.

I'm not into discussing whether the outcome depends on individual performances.

It's EMU's crappy defensive system that has made this season a nightmare. Heath would have to make major changes to win. Doubt that he'll now see the light. He could be a very good HC if he did.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 01:53 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 10:04 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 06:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 12:45 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Key games TUESDAY: IF EMU wins and TOL beats CMU. BG and CMU are out (I think). BG can't get to 6 wins and we hold the tie breaker over CMU if both are 6 - 12).

Then If Miami loses to UB, we're even even at 6 - 12 as we hold the tie breaker over Miami.

Anyone disagree???

The EMU-BowlingGreen game is indeed huge with regard to this 8th Seed. If EMU wins, then will eliminate both Bowling Green and WMU. However, don’t get too excited, I know BowlingGreen is on like a nine game losing streak BUT all of their games have been competitive (no blowouts). So BowlingGreen is well poised to break their losing streak at home against another struggling team such as EMU…just as EMU was poised to break their own losing streak at home against another struggling team such as WMU this week.

I just did a long post and mentioned Miggy. Should have added RamyEMU.

Miggy talked about a game Jan 3, almost 2 months ago.

RamyEMU and I are discussing what is the meaning of going through a scheduling gauntlet and a 'recency effect' (most recent games).

I predict BG will come out flat. I know the game is in BG. Senior night. But if you've been thru hell, you've been thru hell. BG has been through hoops hell.

I predict BG sees EMU on their schedule and starts licking their chops on an easy victory.

Steve makes some interesting points. One is that BG is on a 6-game losing streak against some decent MAC teams. In most games BG's offense has been decent but their defense was terrible. In many ways EMU is similar to BG, as EMU can at times score well and it's defense sucks unless opponents are just plain off as BS was in the last game.

BG did score 91-points as it beat EMU by 26-points on our home-court in the first match-up, and that is not even factoring in that BG shot few free throws as the refs were favorable to the home team, and the opposite favoritism is likely to occur at BG tonight.

Plus, EMU simply doesn't defend three's and BG has a plethora of good three-point shooters who destroyed EMU last time out by scoring 30- points on 10 made three's. Also, BG has good players who can score at the rim, and EMU does not defend the rim. No surprise that BG shot 58 percent on two's at EMU.

Does EMU have more high caliber players? I think so.

But given that EMU defensive system is so bad, I can only see EMU beating BG if he he has his players force BG shooters far out, get in their grill, and make all BG three point shots be off the dribble. Will Heath do that? No way.

Nor will he have his bigs defend the rim. If he does both. EmU should win. Since he's not likely to, the season for all practical purposes should end tonight.

I'm not into discussing whether the outcome depends on individual performances.

It's EMU's crappy defensive system that has made this season a nightmare. Heath would have to make major changes to win. Doubt that he'll now see the light. He could be a sry good HC if he did.

My guess is that one should not get into the weeds on trying to predict games. It is damn near impossible to do OR if it was, those people with Ph.ds in statistics, etc. wouldn't work for a living they would place nice bets and win say 60 - 67% of them and have a nice life.

My play is that BG players probably think they are out of it (I think their chance of winning two games and getting help from other teams is slim).

I can see BG folding their tent, psychologically and physically tired.

I do NOT see a close game where both teams are playing like heavyweight boxers and a high scoring game where both teams are at 100% and shooting the 3-ball like crazy.

I'd take EMU and the under.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 01:53 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 10:04 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 06:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 12:45 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Key games TUESDAY: IF EMU wins and TOL beats CMU. BG and CMU are out (I think). BG can't get to 6 wins and we hold the tie breaker over CMU if both are 6 - 12).

Then If Miami loses to UB, we're even even at 6 - 12 as we hold the tie breaker over Miami.

Anyone disagree???

The EMU-BowlingGreen game is indeed huge with regard to this 8th Seed. If EMU wins, then will eliminate both Bowling Green and WMU. However, don’t get too excited, I know BowlingGreen is on like a nine game losing streak BUT all of their games have been competitive (no blowouts). So BowlingGreen is well poised to break their losing streak at home against another struggling team such as EMU…just as EMU was poised to break their own losing streak at home against another struggling team such as WMU this week.

I just did a long post and mentioned Miggy. Should have added RamyEMU.

Miggy talked about a game Jan 3, almost 2 months ago.

RamyEMU and I are discussing what is the meaning of going through a scheduling gauntlet and a 'recency effect' (most recent games).

I predict BG will come out flat. I know the game is in BG. Senior night. But if you've been thru hell, you've been thru hell. BG has been through hoops hell.

I predict BG sees EMU on their schedule and starts licking their chops on an easy victory.

Steve makes some interesting points. One is that BG is on a 6-game losing streak against some decent MAC teams. In most games BG's offense has been decent but their defense was terrible. In many ways EMU is similar to BG, as EMU can at times score well and it's defense sucks unless opponents are just plain off as BS was in the last game.

BG did score 91-points as it beat EMU by 26-points on our home-court in the first match-up, and that is not even factoring in that BG shot few free throws as the refs were favorable to the home team, and the opposite favoritism is likely to occur at BG tonight.

Plus, EMU simply doesn't defend three's and BG has a plethora of good three-point shooters who destroyed EMU last time out by scoring 30- points on 10 made three's. Also, BG has good players who can score at the rim, and EMU does not defend the rim. No surprise that BG shot 58 percent on two's at EMU.

Does EMU have more high caliber players? I think so.

But given that EMU defensive system is so bad, I can only see EMU beating BG if he he has his players force BG shooters far out, get in their grill, and make all BG three point shots be off the dribble. Will Heath do that? No way.

Nor will he have his bigs defend the rim. If he does both. EmU should win. Since he's not likely to, the season for all practical purposes should end tonight.

I'm not into discussing whether the outcome depends on individual performances.

It's EMU's crappy defensive system that has made this season a nightmare. Heath would have to make major changes to win. Doubt that he'll now see the light. He could be a sry good HC if he did.

My guess is that one should not get into the weeds on trying to predict games. It is damn near impossible to do OR if it was, those people with Ph.ds in statistics, etc. wouldn't work for a living they would place nice bets and win say 60 - 67% of them and have a nice life.

My play is that BG players probably think they are out of it (I think their chance of winning two games and getting help from other teams is slim).

I can see BG folding their tent, psychologically and physically tired.

I do NOT see a close game where both teams are playing like heavyweight boxers and a high scoring game where both teams are at 100% and shooting the 3-ball like crazy.

I'd take EMU and the under.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 01:53 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 10:04 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 06:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 12:45 PM)emu steve Wrote:  Key games TUESDAY: IF EMU wins and TOL beats CMU. BG and CMU are out (I think). BG can't get to 6 wins and we hold the tie breaker over CMU if both are 6 - 12).

Then If Miami loses to UB, we're even even at 6 - 12 as we hold the tie breaker over Miami.

Anyone disagree???

The EMU-BowlingGreen game is indeed huge with regard to this 8th Seed. If EMU wins, then will eliminate both Bowling Green and WMU. However, don’t get too excited, I know BowlingGreen is on like a nine game losing streak BUT all of their games have been competitive (no blowouts). So BowlingGreen is well poised to break their losing streak at home against another struggling team such as EMU…just as EMU was poised to break their own losing streak at home against another struggling team such as WMU this week.

I just did a long post and mentioned Miggy. Should have added RamyEMU.

Miggy talked about a game Jan 3, almost 2 months ago.

RamyEMU and I are discussing what is the meaning of going through a scheduling gauntlet and a 'recency effect' (most recent games).

I predict BG will come out flat. I know the game is in BG. Senior night. But if you've been thru hell, you've been thru hell. BG has been through hoops hell.

I predict BG sees EMU on their schedule and starts licking their chops on an easy victory.

Steve makes some interesting points. One is that BG is on a 6-game losing streak against some decent MAC teams. In most games BG's offense has been decent but their defense was terrible. In many ways EMU is similar to BG, as EMU can at times score well and it's defense sucks unless opponents are just plain off as BS was in the last game.

BG did score 91-points as it beat EMU by 26-points on our home-court in the first match-up, and that is not even factoring in that BG shot few free throws as the refs were favorable to the home team, and the opposite favoritism is likely to occur at BG tonight.

Plus, EMU simply doesn't defend three's and BG has a plethora of good three-point shooters who destroyed EMU last time out by scoring 30- points on 10 made three's. Also, BG has good players who can score at the rim, and EMU does not defend the rim. No surprise that BG shot 58 percent on two's at EMU.

Does EMU have more high caliber players? I think so.

But given that EMU defensive system is so bad, I can only see EMU beating BG if he he has his players force BG shooters far out, get in their grill, and make all BG three point shots be off the dribble. Will Heath do that? No way.

Nor will he have his bigs defend the rim. If he does both. EmU should win. Since he's not likely to, the season for all practical purposes should end tonight.

I'm not into discussing whether the outcome depends on individual performances.

It's EMU's crappy defensive system that has made this season a nightmare. Heath would have to make major changes to win. Doubt that he'll now see the light. He could be a sry good HC if he did.

My guess is that one should not get into the weeds on trying to predict games. It is damn near impossible to do OR if it was, those people with Ph.ds in statistics, etc. wouldn't work for a living they would place nice bets and win say 60 - 67% of them and have a nice life.

My play is that BG players probably think they are out of it (I think their chance of winning two games and getting help from other teams is slim).

I can see BG folding their tent, psychologically and physically tired. I don't know how they've survived such a grueling schedule?

I do NOT see a close game where both teams are playing like heavyweight boxers and a high scoring game where both teams are at 100% and shooting the 3-ball like crazy.

I'd take EMU and the under.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 02:20 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 01:53 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 10:04 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 06:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-26-2023 01:19 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  The EMU-BowlingGreen game is indeed huge with regard to this 8th Seed. If EMU wins, then will eliminate both Bowling Green and WMU. However, don’t get too excited, I know BowlingGreen is on like a nine game losing streak BUT all of their games have been competitive (no blowouts). So BowlingGreen is well poised to break their losing streak at home against another struggling team such as EMU…just as EMU was poised to break their own losing streak at home against another struggling team such as WMU this week.

I just did a long post and mentioned Miggy. Should have added RamyEMU.

Miggy talked about a game Jan 3, almost 2 months ago.

RamyEMU and I are discussing what is the meaning of going through a scheduling gauntlet and a 'recency effect' (most recent games).

I predict BG will come out flat. I know the game is in BG. Senior night. But if you've been thru hell, you've been thru hell. BG has been through hoops hell.

I predict BG sees EMU on their schedule and starts licking their chops on an easy victory.

Steve makes some interesting points. One is that BG is on a 6-game losing streak against some decent MAC teams. In most games BG's offense has been decent but their defense was terrible. In many ways EMU is similar to BG, as EMU can at times score well and it's defense sucks unless opponents are just plain off as BS was in the last game.

BG did score 91-points as it beat EMU by 26-points on our home-court in the first match-up, and that is not even factoring in that BG shot few free throws as the refs were favorable to the home team, and the opposite favoritism is likely to occur at BG tonight.

Plus, EMU simply doesn't defend three's and BG has a plethora of good three-point shooters who destroyed EMU last time out by scoring 30- points on 10 made three's. Also, BG has good players who can score at the rim, and EMU does not defend the rim. No surprise that BG shot 58 percent on two's at EMU.

Does EMU have more high caliber players? I think so.

But given that EMU defensive system is so bad, I can only see EMU beating BG if he he has his players force BG shooters far out, get in their grill, and make all BG three point shots be off the dribble. Will Heath do that? No way.

Nor will he have his bigs defend the rim. If he does both. EmU should win. Since he's not likely to, the season for all practical purposes should end tonight.

I'm not into discussing whether the outcome depends on individual performances.

It's EMU's crappy defensive system that has made this season a nightmare. Heath would have to make major changes to win. Doubt that he'll now see the light. He could be a sry good HC if he did.

My guess is that one should not get into the weeds on trying to predict games. It is damn near impossible to do OR if it was, those people with Ph.ds in statistics, etc. wouldn't work for a living they would place nice bets and win say 60 - 67% of them and have a nice life.

My play is that BG players probably think they are out of it (I think their chance of winning two games and getting help from other teams is slim).

I can see BG folding their tent, psychologically and physically tired.

I do NOT see a close game where both teams are playing like heavyweight boxers and a high scoring game where both teams are at 100% and shooting the 3-ball like crazy.

I'd take EMU and the under.

BG is not out of it. BG wins tonight they'll be in better shape than EMU is as they won tie-breaker if each team finishes MAC play tied for eighth, and BG move on to MAC tournament and EMU stays home.,BG loses and they can't go to MAC tournament. It's a war for both teams tonight.

That's not to say either is a heavyweight boxer. Game will be determined on schemes, players second.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
I have a particularly bad feeling EMU will lose to BG tonight.

Steve, you are saying BG has been through the meat grinder? Well, they were competitive in each of those games. ie, BG lost 79-69 to Kent St whereas EMU lost 81-54 to Kent just a couple games earlier. Which team is in a better state? It will be a tough game and a likely loss for EMU. But they have to play the game to confirm.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 02:25 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 02:20 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 01:53 PM)Miggy Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 10:04 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 06:19 AM)emu steve Wrote:  I just did a long post and mentioned Miggy. Should have added RamyEMU.

Miggy talked about a game Jan 3, almost 2 months ago.

RamyEMU and I are discussing what is the meaning of going through a scheduling gauntlet and a 'recency effect' (most recent games).

I predict BG will come out flat. I know the game is in BG. Senior night. But if you've been thru hell, you've been thru hell. BG has been through hoops hell.

I predict BG sees EMU on their schedule and starts licking their chops on an easy victory.

Steve makes some interesting points. One is that BG is on a 6-game losing streak against some decent MAC teams. In most games BG's offense has been decent but their defense was terrible. In many ways EMU is similar to BG, as EMU can at times score well and it's defense sucks unless opponents are just plain off as BS was in the last game.

BG did score 91-points as it beat EMU by 26-points on our home-court in the first match-up, and that is not even factoring in that BG shot few free throws as the refs were favorable to the home team, and the opposite favoritism is likely to occur at BG tonight.

Plus, EMU simply doesn't defend three's and BG has a plethora of good three-point shooters who destroyed EMU last time out by scoring 30- points on 10 made three's. Also, BG has good players who can score at the rim, and EMU does not defend the rim. No surprise that BG shot 58 percent on two's at EMU.

Does EMU have more high caliber players? I think so.

But given that EMU defensive system is so bad, I can only see EMU beating BG if he he has his players force BG shooters far out, get in their grill, and make all BG three point shots be off the dribble. Will Heath do that? No way.

Nor will he have his bigs defend the rim. If he does both. EmU should win. Since he's not likely to, the season for all practical purposes should end tonight.

I'm not into discussing whether the outcome depends on individual performances.

It's EMU's crappy defensive system that has made this season a nightmare. Heath would have to make major changes to win. Doubt that he'll now see the light. He could be a sry good HC if he did.

My guess is that one should not get into the weeds on trying to predict games. It is damn near impossible to do OR if it was, those people with Ph.ds in statistics, etc. wouldn't work for a living they would place nice bets and win say 60 - 67% of them and have a nice life.

My play is that BG players probably think they are out of it (I think their chance of winning two games and getting help from other teams is slim).

I can see BG folding their tent, psychologically and physically tired.

I do NOT see a close game where both teams are playing like heavyweight boxers and a high scoring game where both teams are at 100% and shooting the 3-ball like crazy.

I'd take EMU and the under.

BG is not out of it. BG wins tonight they'll be in better shape than EMU is as they won tie-breaker of each team finishes MAC play tied for eight. BG loses and they can't go to MAC tournament. It's a war for both teams tonight.

That's not to say either is a heavyweight boxer. Game will be determined on schemes, players second.

This is RameyEMU:

Remaining Schedules of those competing for the 8th seed. As others have pointed out, indeed EMU controls it’s own destiny. Of those currently tied for the 8th spot, EMU has a 2-0 tie breaking record, CMU 2-1, and Miami 0-3. If Bowling Green beats EMU, will significantly hurt EMU on both the overall record as well as the tiebreaker record.

EMU (5-11): @BGSU, @NIU

CMU (5-11): VsToledo, @WMU

Miami (5-11): @WMU, @Buffalo

BGSU (4-12): VsEMU, @Ohio

WMU (3-13): VsMiami, VsCMU

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IF MIA beat WMU, then MIA is at least 6 - 12 and ties on the tiebreaker with a 6W BG.

IF CMU beats WMU, then CMU is at least 6 - 12 and ties on the tiebreaker with a 6W BG.

IF MIA or CMU also wins another game, BG is out. BG can not get to 7 wins. EMU, CMU, and MIA could win 2 more games and get to 7 Ws.

IF motivation is the determining factor, advantage EMU, NOT BG. EMU, CMU, MIA can get to 7 wins. BG can not.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 02:34 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I have a particularly bad feeling EMU will lose to BG tonight.

Steve, you are saying BG has been through the meat grinder? Well, they were competitive in each of those games. ie, BG lost 79-69 to Kent St whereas EMU lost 81-54 to Kent just a couple games earlier. Which team is in a better state? It will be a tough game and a likely loss for EMU. But they have to play the game to confirm.

Agree Ramy, unfortunately I think this will be a bad loss.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 03:06 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 02:34 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  I have a particularly bad feeling EMU will lose to BG tonight.

Steve, you are saying BG has been through the meat grinder? Well, they were competitive in each of those games. ie, BG lost 79-69 to Kent St whereas EMU lost 81-54 to Kent just a couple games earlier. Which team is in a better state? It will be a tough game and a likely loss for EMU. But they have to play the game to confirm.

Agree Ramy, unfortunately I think this will be a bad loss.


Great points. Heath can put EMU in position to beat BG, but he would not to have changed. Virtually everything he's had the team play on defense. That's not likely to happen. But if EMU players go off tonight offensively that could change things.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
Very interesting trains of thought. Miggy has his thoughts. I'm looking NOT at US, but at BG. BG has been pretty unimpressive this season. I think posters are making BG into a real good team (because they caught us whatever) which I don't think they are.

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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
The line has moved some today (essentially BG went from -4 to -3 and the O/U from 159 to 158).

Line : BGSU -3.0
O/U : 158

Remember those are NOT predicted outcomes, but rather the line moves as more money comes in on one side or the other. E.g., Say money was coming in 50 - 50 at BG -4 and then more money (not Luckey's Lol) came in on EMU and the line shrank.

Looking at Vegasinsider, the money line is EMU apprx. 1.40. (bet 10 to win 14). Have to bet 16.50 to win 10 on BG.

**************** Tonight's big games:

1 BG favored by 3.

2. CMU a 15 point underdog vs. TOL.

3. WMU favored by 1 over MIA.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
IF EMU beats BG, TOL beats CMU, and WMU beats MIA. I say we are #8 and make the tourney. Anyone disagree with me?

There could be a possible 3-way tie between EMU, CMU and MIA with a max of 6 wins and EMU holds the tie-breaker over both. We would not have to get to 7 wins.

We also have a 'back in' scenario if MIA beats WMU. EMU and MIA both have 6 wins and both could lose Friday and EMU backs in. MIA plays @Buffalo (that's tough!).


***********his is RameyEMU:

Remaining Schedules of those competing for the 8th seed. As others have pointed out, indeed EMU controls it’s own destiny. Of those currently tied for the 8th spot, EMU has a 2-0 tie breaking record, CMU 2-1, and Miami 0-3. If Bowling Green beats EMU, will significantly hurt EMU on both the overall record as well as the tiebreaker record.

EMU (5-11): @BGSU, @NIU

CMU (5-11): VsToledo, @WMU

Miami (5-11): @WMU, @Buffalo

BGSU (4-12): VsEMU, @Ohio

WMU (3-13): VsMiami, VsCMU
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 06:12 PM)emu steve Wrote:  IF EMU beats BG, TOL beats CMU, and WMU beats MIA. I say we are #8 and make the tourney. Anyone disagree with me?

There could be a possible 3-way tie between EMU, CMU and MIA with a max of 6 wins and EMU holds the tie-breaker over both. We would not have to get to 7 wins.

We also have a 'back in' scenario if MIA beats WMU. EMU and MIA both have 6 wins and both could lose Friday and EMU backs in. MIA plays @Buffalo (that's tough!).


***********his is RameyEMU:

Remaining Schedules of those competing for the 8th seed. As others have pointed out, indeed EMU controls it’s own destiny. Of those currently tied for the 8th spot, EMU has a 2-0 tie breaking record, CMU 2-1, and Miami 0-3. If Bowling Green beats EMU, will significantly hurt EMU on both the overall record as well as the tiebreaker record.

EMU (5-11): @BGSU, @NIU

CMU (5-11): VsToledo, @WMU

Miami (5-11): @WMU, @Buffalo

BGSU (4-12): VsEMU, @Ohio

WMU (3-13): VsMiami, VsCMU

I am not going to say you are wrong. But I am going to say you are clearly jinxing it with your premature exuberance. And setting everyone up for a major let down after EMU loses tonight. BG has been in every single on of their games during their 9 game losing streak, they are playing at home, and EMU is not the strongest of teams for whatever reason. EMU is to BG tonight an even bigger blessing then what WMU was to EMU a week ago. So nothing to be too excited over.
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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
(02-28-2023 06:23 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  
(02-28-2023 06:12 PM)emu steve Wrote:  IF EMU beats BG, TOL beats CMU, and WMU beats MIA. I say we are #8 and make the tourney. Anyone disagree with me?

There could be a possible 3-way tie between EMU, CMU and MIA with a max of 6 wins and EMU holds the tie-breaker over both. We would not have to get to 7 wins.

We also have a 'back in' scenario if MIA beats WMU. EMU and MIA both have 6 wins and both could lose Friday and EMU backs in. MIA plays @Buffalo (that's tough!).


***********his is RameyEMU:

Remaining Schedules of those competing for the 8th seed. As others have pointed out, indeed EMU controls it’s own destiny. Of those currently tied for the 8th spot, EMU has a 2-0 tie breaking record, CMU 2-1, and Miami 0-3. If Bowling Green beats EMU, will significantly hurt EMU on both the overall record as well as the tiebreaker record.

EMU (5-11): @BGSU, @NIU

CMU (5-11): VsToledo, @WMU

Miami (5-11): @WMU, @Buffalo

BGSU (4-12): VsEMU, @Ohio

WMU (3-13): VsMiami, VsCMU

I am not going to say you are wrong. But I am going to say you are clearly jinxing it with your premature exuberance. And setting everyone up for a major let down after EMU loses tonight. BG has been in every single on of their games during their 9 game losing streak, they are playing at home, and EMU is not the strongest of teams for whatever reason. EMU is to BG tonight an even bigger blessing then what WMU was to EMU a week ago. So nothing to be too excited over.

I should have flown out for the game and have Stan have me make the pre-game...

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RE: Game Week 2/28 at Bowling Green and 3/3 at NIU
Per Tom Helmer: Emoni Bates and Noah Farrakhan not starting tonight for EMU as they battle a stomach bug. They may still play but remains to be seen.
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Time for Lovejoy’s breakout game.
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(02-28-2023 07:03 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Per Tom Helmer: Emoni Bates and Noah Farrakhan not starting tonight for EMU as they battle a stomach bug. They may still play but remains to be seen.

Can I erase my last dozen posts. Never suspected this!!!
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Emoni coming in.
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The warm up is off (#21) in black.
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