(01-28-2023 08:03 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  It’s libtard logic-

Black cops are white supremicists
Men can get pregnant
Follow the science
We’re not in a recession


Half the country are complete idiots

And by gosh you better believe them.

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

An outlier, imagine that. In Memphis race isn't the barrier or the cudgel that it is in many other cities across the country. We've seen our share of violence due to racial issues and I think it serves as a reminder of how not to act.

I haven't really kept up with this so answer me this, were antifa and BLM in attendance? I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that since there were only black cops involved they knew that they couldn't come here and fan the flames of racism, hence no real violence.

(01-28-2023 09:55 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  It seems those who are claiming this was motivated by racism are using the general attitude in critical race theory, knowingly or unknowingly. Other than the study of how race attitudes affect law and society it's not really clear what critical race theory is. (I've tried you can't really get a better definition) As such, CRT doesn't seem to be very "critical" of itself and it's assertions that the (social construct) called "race" and racism underpins our culture. That is, our institutions and way of life are "systemically racist." But since it's an assertion its thrown out there without any evidence other than disparate outcomes. That is if you have unequal outcomes then the cause is racism. The "race" part of critical race theory then asserts that since systemic racism underpins our culture even people of the same race can unconsciously be racist against their own "race" ----- and "race" is "social construct" (that is a made-up term used to categorize people). The theory part of critical race theory, as far as I can tell, is there to make it sound more like a science. This isn't science like physics or chemistry or even geology. It's really not even a science like psychology. It appears to me that it's a term used to give the whole idea a certain cache it doesn't have on its own. So at the end of it all you have an idea that's not falsifiable because it's based on conclusions already full born. A "theory" that explains everything and so explains nothing. A "theory" who's assertions are not based on evidence and who's assertions based on those assertions, also not based on evidence, allows you to say that this and that activity is motivated by racism.... Without having to point to any evidence of such. That ignores the wide disparity of attitudes found in a population of 330 million people. And ignores the positive outcomes of certain minority groups, like Asians or folks immigrating from India who have the highest per capita incomes, when making their claims of systemic racism.

So that's why you will hear people saying, without evidence, that the Memphis cops were motivated by racism. And if you deny this you are a victim of those same racial ideas whether you know it or not.

I am genuinely curious, which one of you is posting this? You really are two completely different people using the same handle, right? It has to be. One day you sound like a raving lunatic leftist and the next you are completely rational.

(01-28-2023 10:37 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

An outlier, imagine that. In Memphis race isn't the barrier or the cudgel that it is in many other cities across the country. We've seen our share of violence due to racial issues and I think it serves as a reminder of how not to act.

I haven't really kept up with this so answer me this, were antifa and BLM in attendance? I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that since there were only black cops involved they knew that they couldn't come here and fan the flames of racism, hence no real violence.

Yep. We know what would have happened if it had been even 2 or 3 white cops involved. There was nothing for race baiters to work off of on this one.

(01-28-2023 10:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

You know damn well if this had been 5 white cops?..Memphis would have burned down last night regardless of the immediate accountability.

I would be able to look 20 miles to the southwest and see an orange glow on the horizon that would be Memphis in flames.

CNN's Race-Baiter Van Jones Blames Racism for Black Cops Beating Tyre Nichols to Death

Quote:What was the conclusion of CNN’s Van Jones, in a new op-ed? It wasn’t that (at least) five bad apples—wearing badges—ended the life of an innocent man. No, Jones concluded that Black men beating another Black man was an act of racism (and the subtext: white racism is to blame for black men killing a black man). As incredible as that sounds, that was, unfortunately, the expected opinion of race-baiters in media, where everything, even the beating of a Black man by another Black man, is racism.

Jones writes:

At the end of the day, it is the race of the victim who is brutalized — not the race of the violent cop — that is most relevant in determining whether racial bias is a factor in police violence. It’s hard to imagine five cops of any color beating a White person to death under similar circumstances. And it is almost impossible to imagine five Black cops giving a White arrestee the kind of beat-down that Nichols allegedly received.

It’s that simple. For race-baiters like Jones, if the victim is Black, he (or she) is always a victim of racial hatred. It’s a self-fulfilling statement. A statement that cannot be defeated, even when the criminals are Black. If a Black man is the victim, race is always the reason.

Jones and race-baiters like him are stoking flames that will envelop the nation. Antifa—the thugs and goons who burned America three years ago—have taken to the street again, and will, again, burn, loot, and destroy property. I saw plenty of signs on the streets of Memphis that called for “justice” for Nichols, but Antifa thugs burning cities isn’t about Tyre Nichols. It’s never about the victims of police violence.

The cops who beat Nichols to death have been charged with second-degree murder and will face their turn in the criminal justice system. As a lawyer, I don’t see any defense for their wanton violence. Watch the tape. Nichols was complying with commands, and he was beaten. He repeatedly asked the cops to stop, and they continued to beat him. When he escaped and ran (likely knowing that the beatings wouldn’t stop), he was then beaten even more, kicked, and thrown around like a rag doll. This isn’t about race. It’s about bad cops who will face justice–and if the justice system works, they will spend decades behind bars.

Why commentators like Van Jones cannot view anything without it being through a racial lens is beyond me. That sort of commentary gives worthless thugs like Antifa a license to burn. It gives Blacks no hope. Many will conclude that regardless of who the cop is—or what race he might be—if you are a Black man, you will be beaten. It is an awful message to send, when it’s clear that race had nothing to do with Tyre’s death.

(01-28-2023 10:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 10:37 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

An outlier, imagine that. In Memphis race isn't the barrier or the cudgel that it is in many other cities across the country. We've seen our share of violence due to racial issues and I think it serves as a reminder of how not to act.

I haven't really kept up with this so answer me this, were antifa and BLM in attendance? I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that since there were only black cops involved they knew that they couldn't come here and fan the flames of racism, hence no real violence.

Yep. We know what would have happened if it had been even 2 or 3 white cops involved. There was nothing for race baiters to work off of on this one.

Throw in the fact it's not an election year and we have a Democrat in the Presidency. The powers behind the scenes who stoke these riots weren't motivated this time. There was no political benefit this time to stir the pot to a boiling level.

"At the end of the day, it is the race of the victim who is brutalized — not the race of the violent cop — that is most relevant in determining whether racial bias is a factor in police violence. It’s hard (but not impossible because it does happen) to imagine five cops of any color beating a White person to death under similar circumstances. And it is almost impossible to imagine five Black cops giving a White arrestee the kind of beat-down that Nichols allegedly received.

It’s that simple. For race-baiters like Jones, if the victim is Black, he (or she) is always a victim of racial hatred. It’s a self-fulfilling statement. A statement that cannot be defeated, even when the criminals are Black. If a Black man is the victim, race is always the reason."

There may be some small amount of legitimacy to some of that statement. But at the end of the day it's just the left splitting hairs in an effort to keep us divided by any means necessary.

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

Most of us suspected little would happen because msm doesn’t care when blacks get killed by blacks

(01-28-2023 11:26 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

Most of us suspected little would happen because msm doesn’t care when blacks get killed by blacks

The only reason this incident was even covered is because the police were involved. You could take 5 thugs from any inner city ghetto in America. Let them beat some other black guy to death and not one activist, MSM, Rev Al- none of them would say a word. No marching, no disrupting traffic (which actually goes against the “only peaceful protest” narrative), no chanting, no scratagizing, nothing.

(01-28-2023 10:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

You know damn well if this had been 5 white cops?..Memphis would have burned down last night regardless of the immediate accountability.

And yet, you’re wrong again. We’ve had protests in the past where white cops were the perpetrators and Memphis yet again showed the world how to peacefully protest.

I know this must be really tearing y’all up that you & your media’s narrative didn’t happen.

(01-28-2023 10:26 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 01:05 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:49 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:45 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:30 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  You understand that racism isn’t exclusive to only one race pitted against another, right?

I don’t understand that, no.

It seems to be all race all the time with those on the left side of the ledger. That’s horrible and lends to the massive divide in this country.
The constant racial flames are fanned by the left. Constantly. This particular case had nothing to do with race, other than the fact that the parties are all black.
This is a terrible situation and we all feel for the family and the victim himself.

But don’t cry wolf on this one. Just don’t.

I’m not saying this didn’t have more to the story than cop vs. civilian, because the full story hasn’t come out yet. If rumors are to be believed, this was a personal vendetta that a cop got his buddies in on to basically put in a professional hit job.

But as a general statement, racism is not just one race vs. another.

Ok, you lost me there TG, If racism is not defined by race v race, then what is it defined as? Sexism is defined by biological sex, Elitism is defined by those with higher academic or social class v. those that are not in those classes, Marxism is defined as those that follow the teachings of Karl Marx. Why is this definition different and more nuanced to the left?
You know that answer, as do I. White supremacy and racism have such a broad practical interpretation because it keeps the money flowing, the media engaged, and the masses divided.

Thank you

Racism is not one race pitted against another, although that is where it reveals itself a lot of the time. Racism is predjudice against someone based on their race. It does not mean that the person with the predjudice has to be a different race. Take it up with Webster if you don’t like it.

That said, I think this particular situation is an issue with police thinking they are entitled to do this, whether to settle a personal vendetta, or otherwise throw their weight around.

(01-28-2023 11:26 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

Most of us suspected little would happen because msm doesn’t care when blacks get killed by blacks

You do realize that networks were wall to wall with this last night? We went to watch the Grizz game and the bar had it up on CNN on one of the TV’s the whole night.

The networks were salivating at the idea the city might tear itself apart last night. Didn’t happen.

(01-28-2023 10:23 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:30 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(01-27-2023 09:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-27-2023 09:29 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-27-2023 08:53 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  We all know how we are supposed to act when police pull us over, but at some point fight or flight kicks in. This kid obviously hit the point that he feared for his life and looks like he was justified. These cops are going away

I agree. The cops were over the top from the beginning. Im not sure I would not have resisted this arrest also. It looked like a gang beating more than an arrest. I hope these thugs go away for a long time.

Rememer, CNN's Van Jones said this was pure racism...What the actual heyl is wrong with Leftists/Commies? That makes zero sense, and his spin only made it worse. Trying to dialog with these Leftist-worshipping idiots seems futile. The poor guy is dead. Horrible to watch.

You understand that racism isn’t exclusive to only one race pitted against another, right?

Wait, what? By your "logic" it's possible for two people, or a group of people, of the same race to be racist against each other? GTFO with that psychobabble.

While I think this point is loony because I believe the point they are trying to make is this was racism because the white leaders taught those black cops to be this way.

There is racism among black people....

too light skin or too dark skiN

(01-28-2023 10:26 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 01:05 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:49 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:45 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:30 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  You understand that racism isn’t exclusive to only one race pitted against another, right?

I don’t understand that, no.

It seems to be all race all the time with those on the left side of the ledger. That’s horrible and lends to the massive divide in this country.
The constant racial flames are fanned by the left. Constantly. This particular case had nothing to do with race, other than the fact that the parties are all black.
This is a terrible situation and we all feel for the family and the victim himself.

But don’t cry wolf on this one. Just don’t.

I’m not saying this didn’t have more to the story than cop vs. civilian, because the full story hasn’t come out yet. If rumors are to be believed, this was a personal vendetta that a cop got his buddies in on to basically put in a professional hit job.

But as a general statement, racism is not just one race vs. another.

Ok, you lost me there TG, If racism is not defined by race v race, then what is it defined as? Sexism is defined by biological sex, Elitism is defined by those with higher academic or social class v. those that are not in those classes, Marxism is defined as those that follow the teachings of Karl Marx. Why is this definition different and more nuanced to the left?
You know that answer, as do I. White supremacy and racism have such a broad practical interpretation because it keeps the money flowing, the media engaged, and the masses divided.

Thank you

Actually, there IS "colorism" that exists among the various races. It seems more dominant among Hispanic and Black people in the USA.

This explains why Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 includes COLOR in the phrasing "...prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, or national origin".

Race discrimination is treating people differently based on their ancestry or cultural characteristics. Color discrimination is treating people differently based on their skin color, but can occur between persons of different race OR the same race.

There definitely is a "second tier/level" of prejudice/racism AMONG a give race based on skin tone or color.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimina...skin_color

(01-28-2023 10:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

You know damn well if this had been 5 white cops?..Memphis would have burned down last night regardless of the immediate accountability.

If that were the case it would be burning for days along with a few other cities.

(01-28-2023 11:46 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  Racism is not one race pitted against another, although that is where it reveals itself a lot of the time.

You can define anything you want as racism, even something as stupid as chocolate milk. But trying to make 5 Black officers' beating a Black man senseless and ultimately killing him racism just simply fails the smell test. Five White officers doing this to a Black victim, or 5 Black officers doing it to a White victim, could very clearly be racially motivated, but trying to make this racism is lefty fru-fru bullchit.

(01-28-2023 09:11 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  Imagine that. Immediate accountability and justice in the eyes of the law, and the widespread destruction you all were on pins and needles waiting for... Didn't happen.

Typical BULLS HIT cheap shot from you, Kruciff.

The smeller is the feller.....YOU were among the ones secretly hoping for a racial blowup in Memphis.

(01-28-2023 11:46 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 10:26 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 01:05 AM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:49 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 12:45 AM)450bench Wrote:  I don’t understand that, no.

It seems to be all race all the time with those on the left side of the ledger. That’s horrible and lends to the massive divide in this country.
The constant racial flames are fanned by the left. Constantly. This particular case had nothing to do with race, other than the fact that the parties are all black.
This is a terrible situation and we all feel for the family and the victim himself.

But don’t cry wolf on this one. Just don’t.

I’m not saying this didn’t have more to the story than cop vs. civilian, because the full story hasn’t come out yet. If rumors are to be believed, this was a personal vendetta that a cop got his buddies in on to basically put in a professional hit job.

But as a general statement, racism is not just one race vs. another.

Ok, you lost me there TG, If racism is not defined by race v race, then what is it defined as? Sexism is defined by biological sex, Elitism is defined by those with higher academic or social class v. those that are not in those classes, Marxism is defined as those that follow the teachings of Karl Marx. Why is this definition different and more nuanced to the left?
You know that answer, as do I. White supremacy and racism have such a broad practical interpretation because it keeps the money flowing, the media engaged, and the masses divided.

Thank you

Racism is not one race pitted against another, although that is where it reveals itself a lot of the time. Racism is predjudice against someone based on their race. It does not mean that the person with the predjudice has to be a different race. Take it up with Webster if you don’t like it.

That said, I think this particular situation is an issue with police thinking they are entitled to do this, whether to settle a personal vendetta, or otherwise throw their weight around.

I see you got the talking points.

Geezus.

Only one poster has showed their prejudice based on others' race in this thread... redneck racists and all

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(01-28-2023 11:56 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-28-2023 11:46 AM)tigergreen Wrote:  Racism is not one race pitted against another, although that is where it reveals itself a lot of the time.

You can define anything you want as racism, even something as stupid as chocolate milk. But trying to make 5 Black officers' beating a Black man senseless and ultimately killing him racism just simply fails the smell test. Five White officers doing this to a Black victim, or 5 Black officers doing it to a White victim, could very clearly be racially motivated, but not this.

To quote Greta - “how dare you!!!!!”

How dare you try to turn this into a non-racist situation. Libs define things as they wish and you cannot question that. If the CRT loons and lib geniuses say that 5 black cops killing a black man is white supremacy, then who are we to dispute that? Now, let’s move on to letting pedos into the bathroom with kids because otherwise their feelings would be hurt