Quote:Joe Biden knows nothing about guns. It’s rather concerning that he’s so ignorant and yet, he’s in the position he’s in — talking about policy and laws, as well as constantly pushing gun control.

Biden was at the White House on Friday, talking about “retraining” police.

But first, with Joe Biden being Joe Biden, he faced the battle of the microphone and just being able to speak clearly.

But even as he’s talking about “retraining,” he has no idea what he’s talking about. He said that police need to be trained not to “shoot to kill,” but to “shoot to stop.”

This is of course ignorance of the highest order; police are trained to shoot center mass to bring the criminal down, and you don’t fire unless you are prepared to kill the subject because of the threat. Biden seems to have some farcical belief that you should shoot people in the leg, rather than shooting to kill. He doesn’t understand that makes it unlikely you would hit a moving target, much less stop them, plus that wouldn’t guarantee that you wouldn’t kill the person anyway, if you winged them in the femoral artery.

“So the way we’re training police officers is changing,” Biden said. Let’s understand what he’s trying to say there, since he’s deceiving his audience. He’s claiming that police are being trained as he says? Bull, that’s not happening anywhere and if it was, that would be an insane danger to the officers. But what he’s trying to do is pretend like he’s doing something, that he’s advocating some great change here–when indeed, he’s just spewing nonsense. So, he’s not being stupid and ignorant; he’s seeking to deceive his audience.

Unfortunately, this isn’t the first time that Biden has made such ignorant comments. Yet, his people don’t seem to be able to stop him or educate him so he doesn’t sound like a fool.

Biden continued to reveal how little he understood police work. “You know when a cop turns up in a domestic violence case, or someone’s standing on an edge of a bridge, they don’t need a cop. They need a psychologist,” he said.

Um, Joe? Domestic violence cases are some of the most dangerous situations that cops have to deal with and in which they are frequently injured. And Joe Biden wants to just send psychologists and no cops? Let’s talk about how many people would be injured and/or killed as a result of that stupidity, if anyone listened to and followed what Joe Biden was saying.

Either Biden’s people don’t give a darn about these kinds of comments or they aren’t able to stop him at this point because he’s too far gone.

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These talking points have been pushed in the major cities for the past few years. Sending in psychiatrists and social workers instead of police was a major prong of the "defund the police" movement. While there may be an argument for sending in a social worker along with an officer to "de-escalate" a situation, you would not want to send those people in alone-- and I would venture the smart ones know better than to go in alone.

I'd bet 9.9/10 cops would tell publicly state, "my biggest fear is getting called to a domestic dispute."

yeah, that's the perfect arena for an ill-trained psycho-blah to enter...

(01-23-2023 02:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  These talking points have been pushed in the major cities for the past few years. Sending in psychiatrists and social workers instead of police was a major prong of the "defund the police" movement. While there may be an argument for sending in a social worker along with an officer to "de-escalate" a situation, you would not want to send those people in alone-- and I would venture the smart ones know better than to go in alone.

This.

As a health professional and mental health advocate, I have been one to push for the above... but a social worker is only appropriate in 'some' situations..... ones that have essentially been assured that could escalate, but only 'to a point'.... one that is not life threatening. The social worker can assist the police, but they can't do it alone if there is even remotely a threat that VIOLENCE could escalate.

Said differently... I don't want anyone 'shooting to wound'. If you aren't willing to kill it, you don't pull your gun. Period. THAT is how you avoid 'police brutality'. You place the burden at that level... If you don't immediately fear for your life, you don't pull your gun... and if you do, that's what you will be asked.

That said, I don't want cops to be trained to be negotiators... because you'd have them be negotiators and manipulators and investigators and helpers... experts in all of those, and in managing the differences???? That's like asking a great white to be a lifeguard at your pool. I also don't want social workers to be police. They are the lap dogs. The police are the pit bulls. Don't ask a pit bull to write speeding or parking tickets either. That's a different job description as well. I know, I know... traffic stops often lead to bigger crimes... but that doesn't mean that this one lone cop is going to take down a serial killer all by himself. He can monitor, delay or even follow, and call for back-up

Did Joe share a story from back when he was a psychologist???

TRUE STORY !

(01-23-2023 02:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  These talking points have been pushed in the major cities for the past few years. Sending in psychiatrists and social workers instead of police was a major prong of the "defund the police" movement. While there may be an argument for sending in a social worker along with an officer to "de-escalate" a situation, you would not want to send those people in alone-- and I would venture the smart ones know better than to go in alone.

I have a Masters Degree in Counseling Psychology and worked for the state for three years and there is NO WAY IN HELL I would show up at a DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SCENE. I had these people go off in the County Jail while being counseled, Guards having to tackle them and subdue them.


Idiots with these talking points need to realize all reason in these individuals was already out of control when you show up. You become another trigger to escalate not deescalate an already bad situation.

It took me over three years to see these people along with our lunatic criminal system have no intentions of being rehabilitated.

So, I put in my notice and started enjoying life again realizing you can't fix people but you can fix machines. LOL

(01-23-2023 03:31 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  Idiots with these talking points need to realize all reason in these individuals was already out of control when you show up.

this is what I find most important in residual 'scope' ... how do ya fix 'those folk'? GFL with that...

Biden is an incompetent fool if he truly believes the BS he spewed regarding the Police and the use of firearms.

(01-23-2023 03:31 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(01-23-2023 02:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  These talking points have been pushed in the major cities for the past few years. Sending in psychiatrists and social workers instead of police was a major prong of the "defund the police" movement. While there may be an argument for sending in a social worker along with an officer to "de-escalate" a situation, you would not want to send those people in alone-- and I would venture the smart ones know better than to go in alone.

I have a Masters Degree in Counseling Psychology and worked for the state for three years and there is NO WAY IN HELL I would show up at a DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SCENE. I had these people go off in the County Jail while being counseled, Guards having to tackle them and subdue them.


Idiots with these talking points need to realize all reason in these individuals was already out of control when you show up. You become another trigger to escalate not deescalate an already bad situation.

It took me over three years to see these people along with our lunatic criminal system have no intentions of being rehabilitated.

So, I put in my notice and started enjoying life again realizing you can't fix people but you can fix machines. LOL

Bingo!

+3

Most people don’t really want to fix themselves…

Oh yeah, we all know Joe is a dunce…