Quote:It has now become clear why Joe Biden took ‘classified’ documents from his time as vice president and stashed them at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington.

The ‘classified’ documents contain information on highly sensitive subjects, including his ties to Ukraine, Iran, and the United Kingdom, according to a new report from CNN.

“Among the classified documents from Joe Biden’s time as vice president discovered in a private office last fall are US intelligence memos and briefing materials that covered topics including Ukraine, Iran and the United Kingdom,” a source told CNN.

“A total of 10 documents with classification markings were found last year in Biden’s private academic office and they were dated between 2013 and 2016,” the report added.

The Ukraine documents, in particular, hold particular intrigue due to his son Hunter Biden’s relations with the Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings.

Burisma had paid his son over $80,000 a month to be a “consultant” for the firm, despite Hunter Biden having no relevant experience in the industry. Hunter’s salary would be cut two months after his father Joe Biden left the office of the vice president.

Joe Biden in 2016 had pressured the Ukrainian government to fire a prosecutor that was investigating Burisma’s leadership for corruption.





A series of documents from the Obama-Biden administration showed that representatives for Burisma Holdings sought a meeting with the State Department in February 2016 to discuss the corruption allegations.

Burisma’s representatives invoked the former vice president’s youngest son, Hunter, in order to try to get a meeting with the State Department. The FOIA documents obtained in a lawsuit by John Solomon did not indicate if the meeting ever took place.

On one of the last days of his term as vice president, Joe Biden traveled to Kyiv. FOIA documents hosted at the U.S. State Department show one possible explanation why.

Viktor Nebozhenko, a political scientist, was cited in an email from then Foreign Service Institute director Karen Robblee to former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch speculating on the timing of Biden’s visit and what it could possibly mean.

“Donald Trump said that he will carry out an audit of investments in security and democracy in Ukraine,” Nebozhenko said. “For 8 years the US Administration has turned a blind eye to our corruption and gave a lot of money through the IMF and various funds. And all this has disappeared somewhere. Trump, as the new director of the company under the name of the United States, wants to know where that money went.”

“Biden may become a subject of consideration in the US Congress on the effectiveness of aid to Ukraine, and then he will be asked where the money of the American taxpayers went,” he added.

Such questions have continued into the Biden presidency, as the United States has given more than $50 billion in aid to Ukraine, including military, humanitarian and financial aid.

The classified documents found at the Biden-affiliated center will only fuel more demands in Congress for an accounting of where exactly all of the Ukrainian aid has gone.

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He was just in town to pick up a check.

Our entire government is nothing but a den of thieves.

Has he been indicted or arrested? What a joke!

So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

(01-10-2023 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

Did anyone anywhere claim these were originals and not copies? I doubt the intent was to destroy----more likely to know what they needed to cover up and make excuses for.

(01-10-2023 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

Has his usefulness passed?

(01-10-2023 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

Aaaaaaand in typical Tom fashion..... Back up the excuse van for Biden instead of letting it play out a little bit more until there is better information.

Funny how you were a rabid dog about what was in the Trump files and now you would like to just give Joe a pass cuz ooopsies I forgot about taking all of these with me when I left.....






RWT just accidentally revealed who he (she) actually is...

Joy Behar

(01-10-2023 04:11 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

Has his usefulness passed?

Yes, Harris can take over and still run for two full terms (not that I'm sure any Dems would like her to do so, but I'm sure the puppet masters would love that.)

Wha? As president he has no access to classified info anymore. Doesn't that prove that he's just a figurehead in front of a sinking ship and those handling the puppet strings don't want him viewing classified info because he's liable to blurt it out in his stupid speeches? That's the only logical answer.

(01-10-2023 04:51 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 04:11 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

Has his usefulness passed?

Yes, Harris can take over and still run for two full terms (not that I'm sure any Dems would like her to do so, but I'm sure the puppet masters would love that.)

If they can sneak Commatose in then they surely can slide the bag across.

(01-10-2023 06:54 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

“I never spoke to Hunter or anyone in my family about their business.”

Impeach his ass, then impeach him again and again and again...

(01-10-2023 04:17 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

Aaaaaaand in typical Tom fashion..... Back up the excuse van for Biden instead of letting it play out a little bit more until there is better information.

Funny how you were a rabid dog about what was in the Trump files and now you would like to just give Joe a pass cuz ooopsies I forgot about taking all of these with me when I left.....

A G A I N with this idiotic belief. Dude, NOTHING YOU OR I THINK, SAY, BELIEVE, OR POST HERE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION!

Also, I've already said a couple times that we need more information here. I've also not claimed trump was going to be arrested for anything with his mess either.

The point of my post was to throw water on the idiotic theory of this thread, that I believe holds litter water when you look at it seriously. I could be wrong.

(01-11-2023 07:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 04:17 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

Aaaaaaand in typical Tom fashion..... Back up the excuse van for Biden instead of letting it play out a little bit more until there is better information.

Funny how you were a rabid dog about what was in the Trump files and now you would like to just give Joe a pass cuz ooopsies I forgot about taking all of these with me when I left.....

A G A I N with this idiotic belief. Dude, NOTHING YOU OR I THINK, SAY, BELIEVE, OR POST HERE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION!

Also, I've already said a couple times that we need more information here. I've also not claimed trump was going to be arrested for anything with his mess either.

The point of my post was to throw water on the idiotic theory of this thread, that I believe holds litter water when you look at it seriously. I could be wrong.

You must be a masochist and/or a Joan of Arc.

[Almost] Nobody here cares what you think or what you are trying to do FFS.

Do you think you are saving the world by excusing and defending Democrats at all costs on THIS particular website? I suppose we all are the real dummies here for engaging with you.

Have you changed one single person's opinion about pretty much anything with your defenses or explanations or opinions on this board - just one / any one?


Unfortunately it is posters like you who turn this place into an echo chamber.... when you post the drivel you do and then insult the intelligence of everyone here along the way you in fact are creating the echo chamber you think you are trying to fight. You think you engage and debate but you do not actually. You rally everyone against you instead of engaging in actual debate. Take a page out of Tanq's playbook. He has a strong opinion and commits to them. He also admits when the other side makes a good point - you fail miserably at that part.

You post in a manner that allows you to backslide any time you need to - my personal favorite is the "I never said I agree with x"; but, what you fail to do every time is actually disagree with x.... Even your political registration of "Independent" is non-committal so you have wiggle-room to be the weasel you continue to expose yourself be.




You may not agree at all with the Republican posters here, but they are honest about what they believe in. In that regard you are THE most dishonest poster on this board.

When I started at my current position more than 20 years ago, I inherited a gentleman on my team who was about as gay as a person can be. Everyone knew it except for him (at least what he would admit to). He was a miserable man, and his whole life was about pretending he wasn't gay. About 12 months before he retired, he came to me and one other person in the organization, he came clean and came out. Then he started living his true life and was actually very happy living his true life. He stopped being combative and argumentative and acting like a miserable wretch.

I am not suggesting you are gay, but you still need to "come out of the closet" (anecdotally speaking).

(01-11-2023 07:29 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 04:17 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  So...Biden knowingly took documents to cover-up information that would have incriminated his son...and likely him, and hid them in an office. His attorney's find them several years later, and so they turn them over and start cooperating with the DOJ in an investigation rather than hiding them somewhere else or destroying them?

Seems a certainty!

Aaaaaaand in typical Tom fashion..... Back up the excuse van for Biden instead of letting it play out a little bit more until there is better information.

Funny how you were a rabid dog about what was in the Trump files and now you would like to just give Joe a pass cuz ooopsies I forgot about taking all of these with me when I left.....

A G A I N with this idiotic belief. Dude, NOTHING YOU OR I THINK, SAY, BELIEVE, OR POST HERE IS GOING TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION!

Also, I've already said a couple times that we need more information here. I've also not claimed trump was going to be arrested for anything with his mess either.

The point of my post was to throw water on the idiotic theory of this thread, that I believe holds litter water when you look at it seriously. I could be wrong.

For someone who doesnt believe a president can declassify at will without going through any other procedure and whom can claim any documents as his presidential records (which is true), you seem to be struggling with the fact Biden*, who had no declassification authority and had no excuse for having those documents, got busted with classified docs at a wide open library where foreign actors likely had access to them.

Once again this is not hard to understand. Presidents have declassification authority while VP and Secretary of States do not