Doesn’t it suck more to Bobcat fans to see UTSA start up a program, be successful, and get 2 better conference invites than them? Has TSU even made a bowl game in FBS? UTSA has been in the Top 25 in 2 different seasons.

Who cares what Sam is doing? They’re joining a bottom of the barrel FBS conference with FIU and UTEP.

SOS is used as a cudgel or a reaper in basketball. I can thoroughly imagine the same will apply to the CFP, probably more so.

This means you know darn well the term will apply differently to the G5 and the P… wait a minute, the M3 and the P2. Consider the P2 expansion to be an expectation of “four conference winners and the rest are us!”

Boycott the stuff until the government has to get involved… if you want to see something different.

(01-09-2023 04:42 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Doesn’t it suck more to Bobcat fans to see UTSA start up a program, be successful, and get 2 better conference invites than them? Has TSU even made a bowl game in FBS? UTSA has been in the Top 25 in 2 different seasons.

Who cares what Sam is doing? They’re joining a bottom of the barrel FBS conference with FIU and UTEP.

I’m not sure how they feel about UTSA, but one of “TSU”’s motives in going all in for FBS back in the late 2000s was to separate themselves from Sam/SFA/Lamar in an attempt to establish themselves as the flagship of the TSUS system. So to see a school they think of as very much below them move back to their level probably doesn’t sit too well. And granted, the gap still exists everywhere but on the field, where San Mo has always lagged.

I’m sure “TSU” fans don’t care about what’s going on at Texas State-Huntsville like they did in their Southland days, but it probably wouldn’t sit well at all over there if the Kats won a bowl game before the Cats.

(01-09-2023 04:00 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 02:03 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 01:21 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 09:00 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 08:09 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Thanks very much for your input.

The bigger question is why are you so against it? It’s almost like you have a stake in keeping other schools down. I don’t know all the ends and outs of what is or is not going to happen but you seem to be dead certain this is all a waste of time.

It's pretty simple, why would any G5 fan want their school to have more competition for recruits and money? Especially when some of these schools haven't done the legwork and made the investments to move up.

I know everyone says they hate gatekeepers but when your school puts in a lot of work and money into facilities and what not and separates itself from its conference mates and gets an invite from a legit FBS conference its hard to root for programs that just seemingly want to declare themselves FBS without really doing anything and earning an invitation.

Not saying there's anything right about that mindset, just giving the perspective from one G5 fan that I'm sure many share.

It certainly is funny to see SWT do everything in their power to become an attractive FBS program, with nice facilities and a decent sized fanbase, working years to do so, only for Sam to half ass it and get an invite on a whim.

You can blame UT and Oklahoma going to the SEC for that-- they started these crazy dominoes.
Then when C-USA was down to 5 teams--- the other G5 refused to kill them off by taking at least three and forcing the two left to go Indy. IT SHOULD be GFOUR (G4) IMHO currently.

C-USA was forced into survival mode and added as best they could.

Certainly, C-USA had to do something. Not sure they did the best they could. I just think the whole dynamic between TXST and Sam in this situation is funny. Hopefully they’ll take a home and home with us at some point. We haven’t played since 2011.

(01-09-2023 06:01 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 04:42 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Doesn’t it suck more to Bobcat fans to see UTSA start up a program, be successful, and get 2 better conference invites than them? Has TSU even made a bowl game in FBS? UTSA has been in the Top 25 in 2 different seasons.

Who cares what Sam is doing? They’re joining a bottom of the barrel FBS conference with FIU and UTEP.

I’m not sure how they feel about UTSA, but one of “TSU”’s motives in going all in for FBS back in the late 2000s was to separate themselves from Sam/SFA/Lamar in an attempt to establish themselves as the flagship of the TSUS system. So to see a school they think of as very much below them move back to their level probably doesn’t sit too well. And granted, the gap still exists everywhere but on the field, where San Mo has always lagged.

I’m sure “TSU” fans don’t care about what’s going on at Texas State-Huntsville like they did in their Southland days, but it probably wouldn’t sit well at all over there if the Kats won a bowl game before the Cats.

If Sam wins the ServPro Bowl before TSU wins a bowl game, people will be upset about that? Shouldn’t they be upset at their own administration for continuously hiring bad football coaches?

(01-09-2023 10:18 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  People are making up SOS arguments (I have never heard of this, ever, in any forum) and saying no one minds sharing money (yeah right). And the folks making these points are part of the FCS league trying to get into FBS. You are trying convince us why it is a a good idea.

Playing an all FBS schedule means nothing to teams like NMSU, Troy, Miami Ohio, etc. And it means very little to P5 bottom feeders.

Lastly, I don't see how this new conference is going to get around the all sports conference requirement (on top of the fact that many teams are not ready for FBS, 15k attendance requirements, bigger budgets needed, 85 scholarships, inclusion into the CFP, etc.). Big time uphill battle.

Actually, if you read my argument, it had nothing to do with "bottomfeeders" and was about how money and SOS could possibly begin to work together for the top teams. Also, no one said that no one minded sharing money. What was discussed was that the new league could actually help bring more money. Also, the reason you never really heard about SOS in FBS before was because you didn't have a play-off before. Now, you can argue the amount of influence the expanded CFP will have on SOS, but it is natural to have some effect. Which is why the argument wasn't really made for the G5 farm league level.

(01-09-2023 01:21 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 09:00 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 08:09 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 06:13 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 04:56 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  FBS football just works differently. Even though the new 12 team CFP model looks somewhat like the NCAA BB Tournament or the FCS playoffs--- IT IS a very different animal. SOS is NOT as big of a factor-- even though maybe it "should" be. Sounds logical and is logical-- but again that does not mean that is what actually happens.

Lol got some CUSA stooge here trying to teach us all how the CFP selection system works. Comical. Why don't YOU provide US some proof SOS is not currently a deciding factor, slappy. GTFOH.

Thanks very much for your input.

The bigger question is why are you so against it? It’s almost like you have a stake in keeping other schools down. I don’t know all the ends and outs of what is or is not going to happen but you seem to be dead certain this is all a waste of time.

It's pretty simple, why would any G5 fan want their school to have more competition for recruits and money? Especially when some of these schools haven't done the legwork and made the investments to move up.

I know everyone says they hate gatekeepers but when your school puts in a lot of work and money into facilities and what not and separates itself from its conference mates and gets an invite from a legit FBS conference its hard to root for programs that just seemingly want to declare themselves FBS without really doing anything and earning an invitation.

Not saying there's anything right about that mindset, just giving the perspective from one G5 fan that I'm sure many share.

Who said that the new schools won't have to put in work or money? They would have to comply with the same rules.

(01-09-2023 06:51 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 10:18 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  People are making up SOS arguments (I have never heard of this, ever, in any forum) and saying no one minds sharing money (yeah right). And the folks making these points are part of the FCS league trying to get into FBS. You are trying convince us why it is a a good idea.

Playing an all FBS schedule means nothing to teams like NMSU, Troy, Miami Ohio, etc. And it means very little to P5 bottom feeders.

Lastly, I don't see how this new conference is going to get around the all sports conference requirement (on top of the fact that many teams are not ready for FBS, 15k attendance requirements, bigger budgets needed, 85 scholarships, inclusion into the CFP, etc.). Big time uphill battle.

Actually, if you read my argument, it had nothing to do with "bottomfeeders" and was about how money and SOS could possibly begin to work together for the top teams. Also, no one said that no one minded sharing money. What was discussed was that the new league could actually help bring more money. Also, the reason you never really heard about SOS in FBS before was because you didn't have a play-off before. Now, you can argue the amount of influence the expanded CFP will have on SOS, but it is natural to have some effect. Which is why the argument wasn't really made for the G5 farm league level.

So another FBS conference will only benefit the top of the P5 so that's a reason for a new conference? That's a better argument? I don't think SOS is a factor at all.

As for money "The CFP pie is growing so quickly (and continues to expand) there is plenty of room at the table.". That has nothing to do with sharing money? The CFP is expanding and the P5 want all of the new revenues. If it was up to them, the G5 would get nothing. As it is, their share is paltry. Do you think the G5 wants to share their meager revenue with another G5?

(01-09-2023 06:53 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 01:21 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 09:00 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 08:09 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 06:13 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  Lol got some CUSA stooge here trying to teach us all how the CFP selection system works. Comical. Why don't YOU provide US some proof SOS is not currently a deciding factor, slappy. GTFOH.

Thanks very much for your input.

The bigger question is why are you so against it? It’s almost like you have a stake in keeping other schools down. I don’t know all the ends and outs of what is or is not going to happen but you seem to be dead certain this is all a waste of time.

It's pretty simple, why would any G5 fan want their school to have more competition for recruits and money? Especially when some of these schools haven't done the legwork and made the investments to move up.

I know everyone says they hate gatekeepers but when your school puts in a lot of work and money into facilities and what not and separates itself from its conference mates and gets an invite from a legit FBS conference its hard to root for programs that just seemingly want to declare themselves FBS without really doing anything and earning an invitation.

Not saying there's anything right about that mindset, just giving the perspective from one G5 fan that I'm sure many share.

Who said that the new schools won't have to put in work or money? They would have to comply with the same rules.

I mean Sam and KSU have already gotten in without doing any work lol, but at least they got an invite and didn't just try to declare themselves FBS

(01-09-2023 07:32 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:51 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 10:18 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  People are making up SOS arguments (I have never heard of this, ever, in any forum) and saying no one minds sharing money (yeah right). And the folks making these points are part of the FCS league trying to get into FBS. You are trying convince us why it is a a good idea.

Playing an all FBS schedule means nothing to teams like NMSU, Troy, Miami Ohio, etc. And it means very little to P5 bottom feeders.

Lastly, I don't see how this new conference is going to get around the all sports conference requirement (on top of the fact that many teams are not ready for FBS, 15k attendance requirements, bigger budgets needed, 85 scholarships, inclusion into the CFP, etc.). Big time uphill battle.

Actually, if you read my argument, it had nothing to do with "bottomfeeders" and was about how money and SOS could possibly begin to work together for the top teams. Also, no one said that no one minded sharing money. What was discussed was that the new league could actually help bring more money. Also, the reason you never really heard about SOS in FBS before was because you didn't have a play-off before. Now, you can argue the amount of influence the expanded CFP will have on SOS, but it is natural to have some effect. Which is why the argument wasn't really made for the G5 farm league level.

So another FBS conference will only benefit the top of the P5 so that's a reason for a new conference? That's a better argument? I don't think SOS is a factor at all.

As for money "The CFP pie is growing so quickly (and continues to expand) there is plenty of room at the table.". That has nothing to do with sharing money? The CFP is expanding and the P5 want all of the new revenues. If it was up to them, the G5 would get nothing. As it is, their share is paltry. Do you think the G5 wants to share their meager revenue with another G5?

You're a jealous vote along with Bobcat, got it. But, again, the point was bigger than sharing. If a new conference helps increase contracts than that that new sharing is actually more money, not less; which would benefit both the P5 and the G5. You missed that point as well. I haven't voted whether it would happen or not but watching you miss the points that are even made is interesting.

(01-09-2023 07:54 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:53 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 01:21 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 09:00 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(01-08-2023 08:09 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Thanks very much for your input.

The bigger question is why are you so against it? It’s almost like you have a stake in keeping other schools down. I don’t know all the ends and outs of what is or is not going to happen but you seem to be dead certain this is all a waste of time.

It's pretty simple, why would any G5 fan want their school to have more competition for recruits and money? Especially when some of these schools haven't done the legwork and made the investments to move up.

I know everyone says they hate gatekeepers but when your school puts in a lot of work and money into facilities and what not and separates itself from its conference mates and gets an invite from a legit FBS conference its hard to root for programs that just seemingly want to declare themselves FBS without really doing anything and earning an invitation.

Not saying there's anything right about that mindset, just giving the perspective from one G5 fan that I'm sure many share.

Who said that the new schools won't have to put in work or money? They would have to comply with the same rules.

I mean Sam and KSU have already gotten in without doing any work lol, but at least they got an invite and didn't just try to declare themselves FBS

They will have to comply along with everyone else.

(01-09-2023 08:03 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 07:32 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:51 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 10:18 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  People are making up SOS arguments (I have never heard of this, ever, in any forum) and saying no one minds sharing money (yeah right). And the folks making these points are part of the FCS league trying to get into FBS. You are trying convince us why it is a a good idea.

Playing an all FBS schedule means nothing to teams like NMSU, Troy, Miami Ohio, etc. And it means very little to P5 bottom feeders.

Lastly, I don't see how this new conference is going to get around the all sports conference requirement (on top of the fact that many teams are not ready for FBS, 15k attendance requirements, bigger budgets needed, 85 scholarships, inclusion into the CFP, etc.). Big time uphill battle.

Actually, if you read my argument, it had nothing to do with "bottomfeeders" and was about how money and SOS could possibly begin to work together for the top teams. Also, no one said that no one minded sharing money. What was discussed was that the new league could actually help bring more money. Also, the reason you never really heard about SOS in FBS before was because you didn't have a play-off before. Now, you can argue the amount of influence the expanded CFP will have on SOS, but it is natural to have some effect. Which is why the argument wasn't really made for the G5 farm league level.

So another FBS conference will only benefit the top of the P5 so that's a reason for a new conference? That's a better argument? I don't think SOS is a factor at all.

As for money "The CFP pie is growing so quickly (and continues to expand) there is plenty of room at the table.". That has nothing to do with sharing money? The CFP is expanding and the P5 want all of the new revenues. If it was up to them, the G5 would get nothing. As it is, their share is paltry. Do you think the G5 wants to share their meager revenue with another G5?

You're a jealous vote along with Bobcat, got it. But, again, the point was bigger than sharing. If a new conference helps increase contracts than that that new sharing is actually more money, not less; which would benefit both the P5 and the G5. You missed that point as well. I haven't voted whether it would happen or not but watching you miss the points that are even made is interesting.

Why would this potential new FBS conference "increase contracts" as you say? If the WACSUN schools brought that much value then wouldn't the WACSUN already have a decent linear TV deal?

(01-09-2023 06:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:01 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 04:42 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Doesn’t it suck more to Bobcat fans to see UTSA start up a program, be successful, and get 2 better conference invites than them? Has TSU even made a bowl game in FBS? UTSA has been in the Top 25 in 2 different seasons.

Who cares what Sam is doing? They’re joining a bottom of the barrel FBS conference with FIU and UTEP.

I’m not sure how they feel about UTSA, but one of “TSU”’s motives in going all in for FBS back in the late 2000s was to separate themselves from Sam/SFA/Lamar in an attempt to establish themselves as the flagship of the TSUS system. So to see a school they think of as very much below them move back to their level probably doesn’t sit too well. And granted, the gap still exists everywhere but on the field, where San Mo has always lagged.

I’m sure “TSU” fans don’t care about what’s going on at Texas State-Huntsville like they did in their Southland days, but it probably wouldn’t sit well at all over there if the Kats won a bowl game before the Cats.

If Sam wins the ServPro Bowl before TSU wins a bowl game, people will be upset about that? Shouldn’t they be upset at their own administration for continuously hiring bad football coaches?

Yes, that was kinda the read I got on things when reading the Maroon & Golden forums. Glad you’re following me.

(01-09-2023 08:25 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 08:03 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 07:32 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:51 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 10:18 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  People are making up SOS arguments (I have never heard of this, ever, in any forum) and saying no one minds sharing money (yeah right). And the folks making these points are part of the FCS league trying to get into FBS. You are trying convince us why it is a a good idea.

Playing an all FBS schedule means nothing to teams like NMSU, Troy, Miami Ohio, etc. And it means very little to P5 bottom feeders.

Lastly, I don't see how this new conference is going to get around the all sports conference requirement (on top of the fact that many teams are not ready for FBS, 15k attendance requirements, bigger budgets needed, 85 scholarships, inclusion into the CFP, etc.). Big time uphill battle.

Actually, if you read my argument, it had nothing to do with "bottomfeeders" and was about how money and SOS could possibly begin to work together for the top teams. Also, no one said that no one minded sharing money. What was discussed was that the new league could actually help bring more money. Also, the reason you never really heard about SOS in FBS before was because you didn't have a play-off before. Now, you can argue the amount of influence the expanded CFP will have on SOS, but it is natural to have some effect. Which is why the argument wasn't really made for the G5 farm league level.

So another FBS conference will only benefit the top of the P5 so that's a reason for a new conference? That's a better argument? I don't think SOS is a factor at all.

As for money "The CFP pie is growing so quickly (and continues to expand) there is plenty of room at the table.". That has nothing to do with sharing money? The CFP is expanding and the P5 want all of the new revenues. If it was up to them, the G5 would get nothing. As it is, their share is paltry. Do you think the G5 wants to share their meager revenue with another G5?

You're a jealous vote along with Bobcat, got it. But, again, the point was bigger than sharing. If a new conference helps increase contracts than that that new sharing is actually more money, not less; which would benefit both the P5 and the G5. You missed that point as well. I haven't voted whether it would happen or not but watching you miss the points that are even made is interesting.

Why would this potential new FBS conference "increase contracts" as you say? If the WACSUN schools brought that much value then wouldn't the WACSUN already have a decent linear TV deal?

That was already part of another discussion. Like I said, you are in the jealous/competition court. We get that.

(01-09-2023 08:31 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:01 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 04:42 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Doesn’t it suck more to Bobcat fans to see UTSA start up a program, be successful, and get 2 better conference invites than them? Has TSU even made a bowl game in FBS? UTSA has been in the Top 25 in 2 different seasons.

Who cares what Sam is doing? They’re joining a bottom of the barrel FBS conference with FIU and UTEP.

I’m not sure how they feel about UTSA, but one of “TSU”’s motives in going all in for FBS back in the late 2000s was to separate themselves from Sam/SFA/Lamar in an attempt to establish themselves as the flagship of the TSUS system. So to see a school they think of as very much below them move back to their level probably doesn’t sit too well. And granted, the gap still exists everywhere but on the field, where San Mo has always lagged.

I’m sure “TSU” fans don’t care about what’s going on at Texas State-Huntsville like they did in their Southland days, but it probably wouldn’t sit well at all over there if the Kats won a bowl game before the Cats.

If Sam wins the ServPro Bowl before TSU wins a bowl game, people will be upset about that? Shouldn’t they be upset at their own administration for continuously hiring bad football coaches?

Yes, that was kinda the read I got on things when reading the Maroon & Golden forums. Glad you’re following me.

You've got us covered pretty well sir. I would probably root for y'all in said bowl game depending on who y'all played but I know y'alls fans would rub it all in our faces that y'all beat us to a bowl win, and rightfully so. We have been terribly frustrated in our admin but thankfully changes have been made in the past year and things are looking up. It wouldn't hurt to have a rivalry back on the table as much as it might sting for us at first lol. Y'all definitely would've kicked out butts for most of the past decade.

(01-09-2023 08:31 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:01 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 04:42 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Doesn’t it suck more to Bobcat fans to see UTSA start up a program, be successful, and get 2 better conference invites than them? Has TSU even made a bowl game in FBS? UTSA has been in the Top 25 in 2 different seasons.

Who cares what Sam is doing? They’re joining a bottom of the barrel FBS conference with FIU and UTEP.

I’m not sure how they feel about UTSA, but one of “TSU”’s motives in going all in for FBS back in the late 2000s was to separate themselves from Sam/SFA/Lamar in an attempt to establish themselves as the flagship of the TSUS system. So to see a school they think of as very much below them move back to their level probably doesn’t sit too well. And granted, the gap still exists everywhere but on the field, where San Mo has always lagged.

I’m sure “TSU” fans don’t care about what’s going on at Texas State-Huntsville like they did in their Southland days, but it probably wouldn’t sit well at all over there if the Kats won a bowl game before the Cats.

If Sam wins the ServPro Bowl before TSU wins a bowl game, people will be upset about that? Shouldn’t they be upset at their own administration for continuously hiring bad football coaches?

Yes, that was kinda the read I got on things when reading the Maroon & Golden forums. Glad you’re following me.

I don’t know what you mean by following you? Maybe you don’t know how message boards work?

(01-09-2023 08:03 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 07:32 PM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:51 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 10:18 AM)PojoaquePosse Wrote:  People are making up SOS arguments (I have never heard of this, ever, in any forum) and saying no one minds sharing money (yeah right). And the folks making these points are part of the FCS league trying to get into FBS. You are trying convince us why it is a a good idea.

Playing an all FBS schedule means nothing to teams like NMSU, Troy, Miami Ohio, etc. And it means very little to P5 bottom feeders.

Lastly, I don't see how this new conference is going to get around the all sports conference requirement (on top of the fact that many teams are not ready for FBS, 15k attendance requirements, bigger budgets needed, 85 scholarships, inclusion into the CFP, etc.). Big time uphill battle.

Actually, if you read my argument, it had nothing to do with "bottomfeeders" and was about how money and SOS could possibly begin to work together for the top teams. Also, no one said that no one minded sharing money. What was discussed was that the new league could actually help bring more money. Also, the reason you never really heard about SOS in FBS before was because you didn't have a play-off before. Now, you can argue the amount of influence the expanded CFP will have on SOS, but it is natural to have some effect. Which is why the argument wasn't really made for the G5 farm league level.

So another FBS conference will only benefit the top of the P5 so that's a reason for a new conference? That's a better argument? I don't think SOS is a factor at all.

As for money "The CFP pie is growing so quickly (and continues to expand) there is plenty of room at the table.". That has nothing to do with sharing money? The CFP is expanding and the P5 want all of the new revenues. If it was up to them, the G5 would get nothing. As it is, their share is paltry. Do you think the G5 wants to share their meager revenue with another G5?

You're a jealous vote along with Bobcat, got it. But, again, the point was bigger than sharing. If a new conference helps increase contracts than that that new sharing is actually more money, not less; which would benefit both the P5 and the G5. You missed that point as well. I haven't voted whether it would happen or not but watching you miss the points that are even made is interesting.

Jealous of what? You are an FCS school. I'm supposed to be jealous of that? Or should I be jealous that you are trying to get to FBS? Or something else that I am not "following"?

You have a bunch of silly arguments for your cute new little conference and you are trying to deflect by talking trash to others.

What the WAC/ASUN are doing is fine. I actually have no problem with it. I find it very strange that you make up things like SOS and all FBS schedules and then die on your sword for that fiction. If you had just stated your theories and left it at that, then fine. But you are steadfast in your support for theories that don't exist.

(01-10-2023 09:37 AM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 08:31 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:01 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 04:42 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Doesn’t it suck more to Bobcat fans to see UTSA start up a program, be successful, and get 2 better conference invites than them? Has TSU even made a bowl game in FBS? UTSA has been in the Top 25 in 2 different seasons.

Who cares what Sam is doing? They’re joining a bottom of the barrel FBS conference with FIU and UTEP.

I’m not sure how they feel about UTSA, but one of “TSU”’s motives in going all in for FBS back in the late 2000s was to separate themselves from Sam/SFA/Lamar in an attempt to establish themselves as the flagship of the TSUS system. So to see a school they think of as very much below them move back to their level probably doesn’t sit too well. And granted, the gap still exists everywhere but on the field, where San Mo has always lagged.

I’m sure “TSU” fans don’t care about what’s going on at Texas State-Huntsville like they did in their Southland days, but it probably wouldn’t sit well at all over there if the Kats won a bowl game before the Cats.

If Sam wins the ServPro Bowl before TSU wins a bowl game, people will be upset about that? Shouldn’t they be upset at their own administration for continuously hiring bad football coaches?

Yes, that was kinda the read I got on things when reading the Maroon & Golden forums. Glad you’re following me.

I don’t know what you mean by following you? Maybe you don’t know how message boards work?

You asked if “TSU” fans would be upset if Sam won the ServPro Bowl before TSU. I confirmed that this was the point I was trying to make.

I get you’re just trying to be an argumentative dick, so if you have any further questions just talk to the TXS… err “TSU” guy about it.

(01-10-2023 07:59 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 08:31 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:01 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 04:42 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Doesn’t it suck more to Bobcat fans to see UTSA start up a program, be successful, and get 2 better conference invites than them? Has TSU even made a bowl game in FBS? UTSA has been in the Top 25 in 2 different seasons.

Who cares what Sam is doing? They’re joining a bottom of the barrel FBS conference with FIU and UTEP.

I’m not sure how they feel about UTSA, but one of “TSU”’s motives in going all in for FBS back in the late 2000s was to separate themselves from Sam/SFA/Lamar in an attempt to establish themselves as the flagship of the TSUS system. So to see a school they think of as very much below them move back to their level probably doesn’t sit too well. And granted, the gap still exists everywhere but on the field, where San Mo has always lagged.

I’m sure “TSU” fans don’t care about what’s going on at Texas State-Huntsville like they did in their Southland days, but it probably wouldn’t sit well at all over there if the Kats won a bowl game before the Cats.

If Sam wins the ServPro Bowl before TSU wins a bowl game, people will be upset about that? Shouldn’t they be upset at their own administration for continuously hiring bad football coaches?

Yes, that was kinda the read I got on things when reading the Maroon & Golden forums. Glad you’re following me.

You've got us covered pretty well sir. I would probably root for y'all in said bowl game depending on who y'all played but I know y'alls fans would rub it all in our faces that y'all beat us to a bowl win, and rightfully so. We have been terribly frustrated in our admin but thankfully changes have been made in the past year and things are looking up. It wouldn't hurt to have a rivalry back on the table as much as it might sting for us at first lol. Y'all definitely would've kicked out butts for most of the past decade.

I really hope a h&h at least can be agreed upon. Losing our rivalry with SFA really sucks and we have little to no history with the current group of CUSA schools. I’m sure Texas State would be a big draw (by our standards) for the fans in Huntsville.

(01-10-2023 10:51 AM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 07:59 AM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 08:31 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 06:01 PM)EatEmUp11 Wrote:  I’m not sure how they feel about UTSA, but one of “TSU”’s motives in going all in for FBS back in the late 2000s was to separate themselves from Sam/SFA/Lamar in an attempt to establish themselves as the flagship of the TSUS system. So to see a school they think of as very much below them move back to their level probably doesn’t sit too well. And granted, the gap still exists everywhere but on the field, where San Mo has always lagged.

I’m sure “TSU” fans don’t care about what’s going on at Texas State-Huntsville like they did in their Southland days, but it probably wouldn’t sit well at all over there if the Kats won a bowl game before the Cats.

If Sam wins the ServPro Bowl before TSU wins a bowl game, people will be upset about that? Shouldn’t they be upset at their own administration for continuously hiring bad football coaches?

Yes, that was kinda the read I got on things when reading the Maroon & Golden forums. Glad you’re following me.

You've got us covered pretty well sir. I would probably root for y'all in said bowl game depending on who y'all played but I know y'alls fans would rub it all in our faces that y'all beat us to a bowl win, and rightfully so. We have been terribly frustrated in our admin but thankfully changes have been made in the past year and things are looking up. It wouldn't hurt to have a rivalry back on the table as much as it might sting for us at first lol. Y'all definitely would've kicked out butts for most of the past decade.

I really hope a h&h at least can be agreed upon. Losing our rivalry with SFA really sucks and we have little to no history with the current group of CUSA schools. I’m sure Texas State would be a big draw (by our standards) for the fans in Huntsville.

Y’all do need something to draw fans. The last few games I went to in Huntsville shows me y’all couldn’t draw flies if you were a landfill. Not trying to agitate or aggravate just stating facts.