(01-05-2023 02:26 PM)unalions Wrote:  

From the article:

The addition of Luck provides the aspirational group a credibility boost, as he has done everything from finish as a finalist for the Rhodes Scholarship while a star quarterback at West Virginia to play for the Houston Oilers. He's also a lawyer who worked as the CEO of NFL Europe, the president of the Houston Dynamo of the MLS and commissioner of the XFL. He's currently the chairman of Altius Sports Partners.

Wow, sounds like they really are serious about FBS.

It's a positive sign anyway.

Tarleton taking the bull by the horns again! Glad to see EKU's prez has some huevos rancheros as well. Let's get it!

https://tarletonsports.com/news/2023/1/5...ector.aspx

Has anyone told the current WAC Commissioner about this new development? He seems to be out of the loop more times than not!

After seeing what the WAC and ASUN are planing, it makes since to higher a guy like Thornton.

(01-06-2023 01:50 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  After seeing what the WAC and ASUN are planning, it makes since to hire a guy like Thornton.

Why so? Do you believe they wanted someone naive and inexperienced so that they could pursue a larger prize without any interference from the current warm body that holds the office?

(01-06-2023 02:33 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(01-06-2023 01:50 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  After seeing what the WAC and ASUN are planning, it makes since to hire a guy like Thornton.

Why so? Do you believe they wanted someone naive and inexperienced so that they could pursue a larger prize without any interference from the current warm body that holds the office?

Yeah. He's there to placate the Oly sports schools.

They could “higher” Tom Brady, Hulk Hogan, Will Smith, and whoever they could to lead this dumpster fire and get the same results.

Brian Thornton is fine as WAC Commissioner. Anyone who criticizes him, is expecting Longhorn Steakhouse on a Burger King budget.

From the D1 Ticker:

Quote:Extra Points purveyor Brown sits down with new ASUN-WAC Football Executive Director Luck about his new gig. With a goal of becoming a formal FCS Football-only league by 2024, Luck, as part of this role, will audit each of the 10 Football-playing members to understand their needs and investments should an FBS opportunity arise. Should the yet-to-be-named league gain formal recognition as an FBS league, which is somewhat uncertain given the moratorium on single-sport conferences, Luck acknowledged the ability to access future College Football Playoff revenue is “a concern” as the WAC/ASUN “aren't party to the contract and can't negotiate for a share of the revenue. If the next contract is signed before the WAC/ASUN wins formal approval, it's very unlikely they'll be able to count on any of that money,” per Brown. Brown concludes: “ADs and leaders at other FCS schools are watching this effort closely. I'm told that if the WAC/ASUN effort is successful, there may be nothing stopping groups of schools in say, the Big Sky, MVFC or CAA from doing something similar. Maybe that's a big problem if you're an FBS league concerned about diluting CFP revenue. Maybe, if those schools can all compete, that isn't a problem at all.”

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/oliver-luc...newsletter

(01-07-2023 12:42 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  From the D1 Ticker:

Quote:Extra Points purveyor Brown sits down with new ASUN-WAC Football Executive Director Luck about his new gig. With a goal of becoming a formal FCS Football-only league by 2024, Luck, as part of this role, will audit each of the 10 Football-playing members to understand their needs and investments should an FBS opportunity arise. Should the yet-to-be-named league gain formal recognition as an FBS league, which is somewhat uncertain given the moratorium on single-sport conferences, Luck acknowledged the ability to access future College Football Playoff revenue is “a concern” as the WAC/ASUN “aren't party to the contract and can't negotiate for a share of the revenue. If the next contract is signed before the WAC/ASUN wins formal approval, it's very unlikely they'll be able to count on any of that money,” per Brown. Brown concludes: “ADs and leaders at other FCS schools are watching this effort closely. I'm told that if the WAC/ASUN effort is successful, there may be nothing stopping groups of schools in say, the Big Sky, MVFC or CAA from doing something similar. Maybe that's a big problem if you're an FBS league concerned about diluting CFP revenue. Maybe, if those schools can all compete, that isn't a problem at all.”

https://www.extrapointsmb.com/oliver-luc...newsletter

In the end, it will be determined that having vetted, proven FBS-ready schools form a new FBS league (and share money) is a much better option than FBS schools having to schedule FCS schools year in and year out. The dangling carrot of P5 (and even G5) schools playing a full FBS schedule is what will get this deal done. The CFP pie is growing so quickly (and continues to expand) there is plenty of room at the table. The time is now to get the legitimate FBS-ready schools in and prepare for expansion in 2026.

Disagree. Most FBS schools have absolutely NO problem with playing fcs schools practically EVERY season. They have no desire to drop fcs in favor of more G5 schools.

"Having" to schedule fcs schools year in and year out is NORMAL operating procedure-- unfortunately. They don't "have to"-- they want to.

Look at Alabama. It is ridiculous for them to play fcs schools every year-- BUT THEY DO! And nobody hardly criticizes them--even though they should.

Alabama
2022- Austin Peay
2021- Mercer
2019- Western Carolina
2018- The Citadel
2017- Mercer
2016- Chattanooga
2015- Charleston Southern
2014- Western Carolina
2013- Chattanooga
2012- Western Carolina

(01-07-2023 10:10 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Disagree. Most FBS schools have absolutely NO problem with playing fcs schools practically EVERY season. They have no desire to drop fcs in favor of more G5 schools.

"Having" to schedule fcs schools year in and year out is NORMAL operating procedure-- unfortunately. They don't "have to"-- they want to.

Look at Alabama. It is ridiculous for them to play fcs schools every year-- BUT THEY DO! And nobody hardly criticizes them--even though they should.

Alabama
2022- Austin Peay
2021- Mercer
2019- Western Carolina
2018- The Citadel
2017- Mercer
2016- Chattanooga
2015- Charleston Southern
2014- Western Carolina
2013- Chattanooga
2012- Western Carolina

You're too right about 'Bama's weak OOC scheduling. It is particularly offensive that they refuse to EVER play Troy, UAB or USA.

(01-07-2023 10:10 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Disagree. Most FBS schools have absolutely NO problem with playing fcs schools practically EVERY season. They have no desire to drop fcs in favor of more G5 schools.

"Having" to schedule fcs schools year in and year out is NORMAL operating procedure-- unfortunately. They don't "have to"-- they want to.

Look at Alabama. It is ridiculous for them to play fcs schools every year-- BUT THEY DO! And nobody hardly criticizes them--even though they should.

Alabama
2022- Austin Peay
2021- Mercer
2019- Western Carolina
2018- The Citadel
2017- Mercer
2016- Chattanooga
2015- Charleston Southern
2014- Western Carolina
2013- Chattanooga
2012- Western Carolina

I think the CFP playoff expansion will force SOS to become even more relevant. If so, a schedule with all FBS will indeed become more valuable. Will that allow the WAC-ASUN to become FBS? Who knows, but the argument does have some merit to consider.

(01-07-2023 10:30 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-07-2023 10:10 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Disagree. Most FBS schools have absolutely NO problem with playing fcs schools practically EVERY season. They have no desire to drop fcs in favor of more G5 schools.

"Having" to schedule fcs schools year in and year out is NORMAL operating procedure-- unfortunately. They don't "have to"-- they want to.

Look at Alabama. It is ridiculous for them to play fcs schools every year-- BUT THEY DO! And nobody hardly criticizes them--even though they should.

Alabama
2022- Austin Peay
2021- Mercer
2019- Western Carolina
2018- The Citadel
2017- Mercer
2016- Chattanooga
2015- Charleston Southern
2014- Western Carolina
2013- Chattanooga
2012- Western Carolina

I think the CFP playoff expansion will force SOS to become even more relevant. If so, a schedule with all FBS will indeed become more valuable. Will that allow the WAC-ASUN to become FBS? Who knows, but the argument does have some merit to consider.

Bingo.

(01-07-2023 10:37 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  

(01-07-2023 10:30 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-07-2023 10:10 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Disagree. Most FBS schools have absolutely NO problem with playing fcs schools practically EVERY season. They have no desire to drop fcs in favor of more G5 schools.

"Having" to schedule fcs schools year in and year out is NORMAL operating procedure-- unfortunately. They don't "have to"-- they want to.

Look at Alabama. It is ridiculous for them to play fcs schools every year-- BUT THEY DO! And nobody hardly criticizes them--even though they should.

Alabama
2022- Austin Peay
2021- Mercer
2019- Western Carolina
2018- The Citadel
2017- Mercer
2016- Chattanooga
2015- Charleston Southern
2014- Western Carolina
2013- Chattanooga
2012- Western Carolina

I think the CFP playoff expansion will force SOS to become even more relevant. If so, a schedule with all FBS will indeed become more valuable. Will that allow the WAC-ASUN to become FBS? Who knows, but the argument does have some merit to consider.

Bingo.

It has not yet. The "tide" have fcs teams already scheduled for the next three years.

Your opinion about SOS becoming more relevant is reasonable-- but again has not occurred at this point.

You are basing your argument on what makes sense to "maybe" happen in the future.

Show some evidence of articles discussing this as a new mandate for ANY conference.

I'll even settle for an article about ANY conference currently EVEN discussing this possibility.

The BIG10 tried it a few years ago and recanted-- they now allow teams to play FCS approx. every other year.*

All other conferences have NO rule on limiting home fcs scheduling and none is under consideration.

*Article--"Big Ten teams are allowed to schedule FCS opponents again, sometimes. Should they?" -- SB Nation, July 24, 2017

(01-07-2023 10:30 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-07-2023 10:10 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Disagree. Most FBS schools have absolutely NO problem with playing fcs schools practically EVERY season. They have no desire to drop fcs in favor of more G5 schools.

"Having" to schedule fcs schools year in and year out is NORMAL operating procedure-- unfortunately. They don't "have to"-- they want to.

Look at Alabama. It is ridiculous for them to play fcs schools every year-- BUT THEY DO! And nobody hardly criticizes them--even though they should.

Alabama
2022- Austin Peay
2021- Mercer
2019- Western Carolina
2018- The Citadel
2017- Mercer
2016- Chattanooga
2015- Charleston Southern
2014- Western Carolina
2013- Chattanooga
2012- Western Carolina

I think the CFP playoff expansion will force SOS to become even more relevant. If so, a schedule with all FBS will indeed become more valuable. Will that allow the WAC-ASUN to become FBS? Who knows, but the argument does have some merit to consider.

Yep! This is exactly why you don’t hear any P5 folks worried about another FBS conference. The expansion changes the game with scheduling. I think the days of the SEC and plenty others scheduling FCS schools are numbered.

(01-07-2023 11:20 PM)unalions Wrote:  

(01-07-2023 10:30 PM)Outsider Wrote:  

(01-07-2023 10:10 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Disagree. Most FBS schools have absolutely NO problem with playing fcs schools practically EVERY season. They have no desire to drop fcs in favor of more G5 schools.

"Having" to schedule fcs schools year in and year out is NORMAL operating procedure-- unfortunately. They don't "have to"-- they want to.

Look at Alabama. It is ridiculous for them to play fcs schools every year-- BUT THEY DO! And nobody hardly criticizes them--even though they should.

Alabama
2022- Austin Peay
2021- Mercer
2019- Western Carolina
2018- The Citadel
2017- Mercer
2016- Chattanooga
2015- Charleston Southern
2014- Western Carolina
2013- Chattanooga
2012- Western Carolina

I think the CFP playoff expansion will force SOS to become even more relevant. If so, a schedule with all FBS will indeed become more valuable. Will that allow the WAC-ASUN to become FBS? Who knows, but the argument does have some merit to consider.

Yep! This is exactly why you don’t hear any P5 folks worried about another FBS conference. The expansion changes the game with scheduling. I think the days of the SEC and plenty others scheduling FCS schools are numbered.

Especially for those G5's wanting a crack at the CFP. An all-FBS schedule will be mandatory.