hopefully he can find a place to live

boulder outlawed new construction

(12-03-2022 08:07 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 07:09 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 06:57 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  He's thrived in one of the worst conferences in football by beating up on bad FCS and Div 2 teams.

He wants to be in power 5.

At a lesser power school such as Colorado, he's already there.

At USF he has to turn around a program against stiff competition and sustain it for a few years to get a P5 gig that is not likely to be better than Colorado anyway.

At Colorado even if he fails, he's already gotten his foot in the P5 door and gets added to the list of recyclable P5 coaches.

Fail at USF and he'll likely never sniff a P5 head coaching job.

Gr8 conjecture....his upside is greater than Silvernutz....He could feast on cupcakes on our schedule and help us crescendo in revenue...
Conversely, RS will.attempt to feast on a weak schedule, our recruit rankings will drop and fan participation will drop considerably, while hemmoraging revenue...Our national relevance will suffer tremendously....Will be extremely difficult to bring in a coach to build from this....Memphis will become irrelevant; an immense afterthought

WTF does Silverfield have to do with Sanders taking the job at Colorado?

Your obsession is showing again.

Silver needs to go....Memphis couldn't afford NOT to bring in a revenue generating entity such as Deion....He is exactly what Memphis needed to have/create direction in this program...Silver, by taking advantage of a "lesser" schedule will create stabilty, as going 7-6;8-5 just for example, benefitting from this lame schedule....The next letter will read "10 straight bowl appearances" etc etc....The complete opposite of what the basketball program is attempting to accomplish... Penny is strengthening the schedule for an opportunity to win a championship....The womans basketball teams schedule is also impressive, as the goal is to build;create excitement and prepare to become.relevant....Our fooseball program is :cogs: giddy about padding the stats/record against cupcakes. While simultaneously marketing/begging to "empty our pockets for the growth/development of this program"...Do you NOT understand the dicotamy....That's exactly what Finebaum is eluding to...He's from here,knows the program well; has a national presence, and all you can manage is to create hypothetical scenariis why he should have an opinion re; the direction of this program.... He was basically trying to hint; that Memphis be going after Deion, it's a business decision....

hope deion packed a parka

he is going to see snow above his head

and some times 70-80 mph straight line winds

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:26 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Gonna be the end of his coaching career. No way he wins at Colorado... terrible fit.

If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

(12-04-2022 10:04 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  hope deion packed a parka

he is going to see snow above his head

and some times 70-80 mph straight line winds

He’s played against the Broncos. He probably remembers what it’s like.

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:26 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Gonna be the end of his coaching career. No way he wins at Colorado... terrible fit.

If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:26 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Gonna be the end of his coaching career. No way he wins at Colorado... terrible fit.

If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

Funny you made that comparison. Ever heard of Dan Hawkins ?

(12-04-2022 02:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:26 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Gonna be the end of his coaching career. No way he wins at Colorado... terrible fit.

If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

Funny you made that comparison. Ever heard of Dan Hawkins ?

Yep. I’ve heard of him. Can you elaborate?

Now that it’s official Prime is gone and Jackson State returns…to normal for JSU, when do they make the call to beg back into the classic game? Would you take them back if you ran the classic?

(12-04-2022 03:15 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Now that it’s official Prime is gone and Jackson State returns…to normal for JSU, when do they make the call to beg back into the classic game? Would you take them back if you ran the classic?

To my understanding they really hadn’t left contractually. It makes sense geographically and rivalry wise. JSU will not be turned away by the classic organizers. And I think Sanders was wrong for trying to end their involvement when he knew his goal was not to be there long term.

(12-04-2022 03:22 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 03:15 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Now that it’s official Prime is gone and Jackson State returns…to normal for JSU, when do they make the call to beg back into the classic game? Would you take them back if you ran the classic?

To my understanding they really hadn’t left contractually. It makes sense geographically and rivalry wise. JSU will not be turned away by the classic organizers.

JSU attorney sent legal notice of their intent to cancel the contract.

(12-04-2022 03:24 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 03:22 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 03:15 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  Now that it’s official Prime is gone and Jackson State returns…to normal for JSU, when do they make the call to beg back into the classic game? Would you take them back if you ran the classic?

To my understanding they really hadn’t left contractually. It makes sense geographically and rivalry wise. JSU will not be turned away by the classic organizers.

JSU attorney sent legal notice of their intent to cancel the contract.

Intent, but I don’t think it was actually settled.

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:26 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Gonna be the end of his coaching career. No way he wins at Colorado... terrible fit.

If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

Let's not forget they are 47-95 since they joined the PAC12.

(12-04-2022 02:07 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 02:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

Funny you made that comparison. Ever heard of Dan Hawkins ?

Yep. I’ve heard of him. Can you elaborate?

Judging from your previous post, apparently you haven't.

(12-04-2022 02:07 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 02:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

Funny you made that comparison. Ever heard of Dan Hawkins ?

Yep. I’ve heard of him. Can you elaborate?

He dominated at Boise State, got hired by Colorado, and stunk it up there. 53-11 at BSU then 19-39 at Colorado. I knew he did bad at Colorado, but didn't know the records. I had to look those up.

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:26 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Gonna be the end of his coaching career. No way he wins at Colorado... terrible fit.

If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

Heck I think Cincinnati would have been a better job than Colorado. People under estimate how hard it is for those schools in the middle of nowhere to sustain succes without natural rivals and pipelines. It's the worst rebuild job in the p5.

(12-04-2022 06:29 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 02:07 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 02:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

Funny you made that comparison. Ever heard of Dan Hawkins ?

Yep. I’ve heard of him. Can you elaborate?

Judging from your previous post, apparently you haven't.

I don’t follow all coaching careers.

(12-04-2022 09:30 AM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 08:07 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 07:09 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 06:57 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  He's thrived in one of the worst conferences in football by beating up on bad FCS and Div 2 teams.

He wants to be in power 5.

At a lesser power school such as Colorado, he's already there.

At USF he has to turn around a program against stiff competition and sustain it for a few years to get a P5 gig that is not likely to be better than Colorado anyway.

At Colorado even if he fails, he's already gotten his foot in the P5 door and gets added to the list of recyclable P5 coaches.

Fail at USF and he'll likely never sniff a P5 head coaching job.

Gr8 conjecture....his upside is greater than Silvernutz....He could feast on cupcakes on our schedule and help us crescendo in revenue...
Conversely, RS will.attempt to feast on a weak schedule, our recruit rankings will drop and fan participation will drop considerably, while hemmoraging revenue...Our national relevance will suffer tremendously....Will be extremely difficult to bring in a coach to build from this....Memphis will become irrelevant; an immense afterthought

WTF does Silverfield have to do with Sanders taking the job at Colorado?

Your obsession is showing again.

Silver needs to go....Memphis couldn't afford NOT to bring in a revenue generating entity such as Deion....He is exactly what Memphis needed to have/create direction in this program...Silver, by taking advantage of a "lesser" schedule will create stabilty, as going 7-6;8-5 just for example, benefitting from this lame schedule....The next letter will read "10 straight bowl appearances" etc etc....The complete opposite of what the basketball program is attempting to accomplish... Penny is strengthening the schedule for an opportunity to win a championship....The womans basketball teams schedule is also impressive, as the goal is to build;create excitement and prepare to become.relevant....Our fooseball program is giddy about padding the stats/record against cupcakes. While simultaneously marketing/begging to "empty our pockets for the growth/development of this program"...Do you NOT understand the dicotamy....That's exactly what Finebaum is eluding to...He's from here,knows the program well; has a national presence, and all you can manage is to create hypothetical scenariis why he should have an opinion re; the direction of this program.... He was basically trying to hint; that Memphis be going after Deion, it's a business decision....

The administration failed by not seeing what was out there. If FAU could get Tom Herman, it would have done no harm to see what we could have gotten. Hopefully Coach Penny can save us.

(12-04-2022 06:28 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:48 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(12-03-2022 11:26 PM)chrisd11 Wrote:  Gonna be the end of his coaching career. No way he wins at Colorado... terrible fit.

If he went to USF and managed to win he was not going to get a better job. So might as well get his foot in the P5 door now.

Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

Let's not forget they are 47-95 since they joined the PAC12.

Lest we forget the Tigers were pretty bad for awhile before Fuente was hired. Things can change. Did you not think the Tigers could improve with right hire? Or is it just that you think Colorado is cursed to never be good again?

(12-04-2022 06:50 PM)Alanda Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 02:07 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 02:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 01:03 PM)tigerbmw Wrote:  

(12-04-2022 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Of course he would. If he turned USF around he would get the next SEC, B12, ACC gig that came available. He will get the same opportunity if he turns Colorado around. The point is, that is probably a more difficult turnaround in reality.

I think it's a bad fit. But he was obviously tired of butting his head against walls for resources and exposure. That would continue at USF. I believe he really wanted that USF gig, but they couldn't come up with the money to expedite the new stadium and pay his staff what he wants to pay them.

I don’t know. If a consistent winner can be built in Boise Idaho, Boulder Colorado seems a tad easier. Lest we forget, the Buffs were voted a share of the national championship in the modern era.

Funny you made that comparison. Ever heard of Dan Hawkins ?

Yep. I’ve heard of him. Can you elaborate?

He dominated at Boise State, got hired by Colorado, and stunk it up there. 53-11 at BSU then 19-39 at Colorado. I knew he did bad at Colorado, but didn't know the records. I had to look those up.

Thanks for explaining. I had no idea the point the previous poster was trying to make.