My guess

NOLA - winner of Troy v Coastal
Cure - Loser of Troy v Coastal
Lendingtree - Marshall
Camellia - Southern Miss
Independence - Louisiana
Boca Raton - South Alabama
Myrtle Beach - Georgia Southern

(11-27-2022 12:51 PM)WARDAWG93 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 12:05 PM)We Are the Dukes of JMU Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:30 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:02 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:55 AM)NRGHerd Wrote:  

I believe JMU has priority over all the 5-7 teams.

Bowl eligible transition teams in their SECOND year of transition, then highest APR of 5-7 teams.

Technically, the rule doesn't say "second year". It says "final year".

If JMU were to immediately submit a waiver to shorten our reclassification to one year, then 2022 would become our final year of reclassification. Our AD has always been clear in public statements that we intend to request a waiver to shorten our transition. Now seems like a good time.

My impression was always that he was considering the waiver for the second year and that there was little to no chance of a waiver for this year. Sure as hell hope I'm wrong about that. The JMU team has earned the right to go bowling!

I'm not sure the exact reasons for the timing and everything, but all year it's sounded like JMU has a very specific plan and timeline for the waiver to make 2022 year 2. Sometime in December is what's always been mentioned.

I don't know what exactly the reasoning is for that timing but I'm sure there's some reason. It seems like it would've made sense to do it like a month ago and then maybe we could be considered in our final year right now and likely going bowling... But maybe I'm wrong and they feel approval is more likely after the season. It's definitely more important to be sure about next year than it is to get a bowl this year.

(11-27-2022 12:05 PM)We Are the Dukes of JMU Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:30 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:02 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:55 AM)NRGHerd Wrote:  

I believe JMU has priority over all the 5-7 teams.

Bowl eligible transition teams in their SECOND year of transition, then highest APR of 5-7 teams.

Technically, the rule doesn't say "second year". It says "final year".

If JMU were to immediately submit a waiver to shorten our reclassification to one year, then 2022 would become our final year of reclassification. Our AD has always been clear in public statements that we intend to request a waiver to shorten our transition. Now seems like a good time.

Disclosure before I post….its been a long time since this happened, so I have no idea if the process is still the same, but Central Arkansas tried the waiver thing the year after they joined the Southland conference from D2….The waiver had to first be approved to be considered, and then there was a committee that later decided on the matter. That being said, there is little hope that the process could happen on a fast enough timeline where JMU gets a bowl invite.

(11-27-2022 10:55 AM)NRGHerd Wrote:  

Good I hope they keep any P5 5-7 teams out.

(11-28-2022 08:25 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  My guess

NOLA - winner of Troy v Coastal
Cure - Loser of Troy v Coastal
Lendingtree - Marshall
Camellia - Southern Miss
Independence - Louisiana
Boca Raton - South Alabama
Myrtle Beach - Georgia Southern

If they want to make money USA or USM should go to that Lending Tree Bowl. Marshall would bring 2 fans.

Marshall has more history playing MAC teams so that may be why they may want them. Viewership numbers I'm sure is a huge consideration. I think we go to Mobile though. Being so close has to make us a top pick.

(11-28-2022 10:32 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Marshall has more history playing MAC teams so that may be why they may want them. Viewership numbers I'm sure is a huge consideration. I think we go to Mobile though. Being so close has to make us a top pick.

After two stints in the MAC already, asking Herd fans to drop a grand on travel and lodging to Mobile just before Christmas to watch Marshall play a peer is going to be a hard sell.

Marshall fans will travel wherever the Herd ends up but to what degree will depend on the opponent.

My guesses for the SBC Games

Cure - Troy
NOLA - USA
Myrtle Beach - Marshall
Montgomery - Coastal
Mobile - USM
Indy - ULL

(11-28-2022 10:22 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 08:25 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  My guess

NOLA - winner of Troy v Coastal
Cure - Loser of Troy v Coastal
Lendingtree - Marshall
Camellia - Southern Miss
Independence - Louisiana
Boca Raton - South Alabama
Myrtle Beach - Georgia Southern

If they want to make money USA or USM should go to that Lending Tree Bowl. Marshall would bring 2 fans.

Who's "they"?

Let's be honest here, bowl committees can only lobby and make recommendations but ultimately the TV Execs make the final decision and they could care less about how much money the gate makes/attendance or how much money is spent in the community or hotels etc...the only thing the TV execs care about is what will attract the most eyeballs on TV - that’s really what determines bowl matchups. TV trumps all. The Indy Bowl can vouch all day long for Louisiana or the Mobile Bowl can vouch all day long for Southern Miss but if the TV Execs crunch the #'s and estimate that team A vs team B will attract more viewers, then that's who they're going to pick. Also, conference bowl tie-ins aren't set in stone especially when you consider ESPN owns nearly all of them and as seen in past years, they can shuffle tie-ins as they please.

(11-28-2022 10:22 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 08:25 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  My guess

NOLA - winner of Troy v Coastal
Cure - Loser of Troy v Coastal
Lendingtree - Marshall
Camellia - Southern Miss
Independence - Louisiana
Boca Raton - South Alabama
Myrtle Beach - Georgia Southern

If they want to make money USA or USM should go to that Lending Tree Bowl. Marshall would bring 2 fans.

3, I'd be there but I'm hearing different things that I'm holding close to the vest

(11-28-2022 04:52 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  I'm not sure the exact reasons for the timing and everything, but all year it's sounded like JMU has a very specific plan and timeline for the waiver to make 2022 year 2. Sometime in December is what's always been mentioned.

I don't know what exactly the reasoning is for that timing but I'm sure there's some reason. It seems like it would've made sense to do it like a month ago and then maybe we could be considered in our final year right now and likely going bowling... But maybe I'm wrong and they feel approval is more likely after the season. It's definitely more important to be sure about next year than it is to get a bowl this year.

(11-28-2022 09:58 PM)wwwyzzrd Wrote:  Disclosure before I post….its been a long time since this happened, so I have no idea if the process is still the same, but Central Arkansas tried the waiver thing the year after they joined the Southland conference from D2….The waiver had to first be approved to be considered, and then there was a committee that later decided on the matter. That being said, there is little hope that the process could happen on a fast enough timeline where JMU gets a bowl invite.

I'm also going from memory, without insider info, and not double checking exact specifics that were publicly reported because it doesn't matter....

Since before we were even officially SBC back in June, JMU has planned to file a waiver to make 2022 to count as our final transition year. This is why we pushed so hard to get the 5 home FBS games this year, it checks the boxes for a successful waiver (and helping us stand apart from SHSU and JSU). The NCAA Transformation Committee (or some random committee) came out to JMU in early/mid Nov and I believe are finalizing a report early December regarding our transition. The JMU AD wanted this report to strengthen the waiver. The generally conservative and tight lipped JMU AD has publicly said that he fully expects the waiver to be granted.

After starting 5-0, JMU looked into what would need to be done to go to NY6 bowl if they stayed undefeated. There was support from SBC office to help make this happen if the undefeated season came true. Perhaps things could have been set in motion in late October to have everything in place so that report was delivered this week and prior to official bowl selections. Pressure from JMU, SBC and ESPN hopefully means NCAA exepediates a review and the waiver is granted and JMU gets selected for NY6. NCAA doesn't do anything fast so I have my doubts it would have been possible even with all the pressure, but who knows. JMU AD basically said it was NY6 or bust when the headlines starting building mid Oct. Then Ga Southern ruined all that fun. With that said, others with insider intel could probably distinguish if what the JMU AD said regarding NY6 or bust was totally truthful or if we kept the pedal down to get a waiver prior to bowl selections.

The whole reason for the waiver, from the very beginning, was to make JMU full FBS next year so we don't get slotted between 6 win teams and 5-7 win teams (like SHSU and JSU will be).

(11-27-2022 12:05 PM)We Are the Dukes of JMU Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:30 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 11:02 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2022 10:55 AM)NRGHerd Wrote:  

I believe JMU has priority over all the 5-7 teams.

Bowl eligible transition teams in their SECOND year of transition, then highest APR of 5-7 teams.

Technically, the rule doesn't say "second year". It says "final year".

If JMU were to immediately submit a waiver to shorten our reclassification to one year, then 2022 would become our final year of reclassification. Our AD has always been clear in public statements that we intend to request a waiver to shorten our transition. Now seems like a good time.

Sorry we were so AWESOME when we moved up. We had no idea.

(11-28-2022 04:14 AM)Randy Tortilla Wrote:  Cure bowl - Coastal

Lending Tree - Troy

Camellia - GA Southern

NOLA - USA

Myrtle - Marshall

those are my guesses

I want the Myrtle Bowl. It will end up looking like a home game since we have so many locals living down there.

Troy's AD said this morning that the Cure Bowl is likely for Troy if we win Saturday, and that there's also a chance that ESPN could slot us to a bigger non-SBC bowl.

(11-29-2022 11:37 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  Troy's AD said this morning that the Cure Bowl is likely for Troy if we win Saturday, and that there's also a chance that ESPN could slot us to a bigger non-SBC bowl.

Just more reasons we are all rubber-men fans this week! Best of luck to you guys, for this weekend and beyond. Rep us well!

(11-29-2022 12:50 AM)TTT Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 10:22 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 08:25 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  My guess

NOLA - winner of Troy v Coastal
Cure - Loser of Troy v Coastal
Lendingtree - Marshall
Camellia - Southern Miss
Independence - Louisiana
Boca Raton - South Alabama
Myrtle Beach - Georgia Southern

If they want to make money USA or USM should go to that Lending Tree Bowl. Marshall would bring 2 fans.

Who's "they"?

Let's be honest here, bowl committees can only lobby and make recommendations but ultimately the TV Execs make the final decision and they could care less about how much money the gate makes/attendance or how much money is spent in the community or hotels etc...the only thing the TV execs care about is what will attract the most eyeballs on TV - that’s really what determines bowl matchups. TV trumps all. The Indy Bowl can vouch all day long for Louisiana or the Mobile Bowl can vouch all day long for Southern Miss but if the TV Execs crunch the #'s and estimate that team A vs team B will attract more viewers, then that's who they're going to pick. Also, conference bowl tie-ins aren't set in stone especially when you consider ESPN owns nearly all of them and as seen in past years, they can shuffle tie-ins as they please.

There is definitely jockeying/negotiating going on behind the scenes on who plays in what bowl. USA or USM would spend more money in the city of Mobile as well. All this is factored in when different groups are negotiating.

South Alabama WILL NOT BE IN MOBILE. Put it in stone or whatever you want. Jags going to NOLA.

So, refresh my (old and tired) memory: how are the bowls announced? As they are assigned or all at once, more or less?

(11-29-2022 01:02 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  South Alabama WILL NOT BE IN MOBILE. Put it in stone or whatever you want. Jags going to NOLA.

Jags playing in Mobile doesn’t really make sense.

My guess is NO Bowl as well.