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AAC 2.0 = AACtion

(10-18-2022 11:44 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 10:14 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 09:01 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 08:00 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Wednesday, October 19
Matchup Time (ET) TV/Mobile Tickets
Georgia State at Appalachian State 7:30pm ESPN2

Thursday, October 20
Matchup Time (ET) TV/Mobile Tickets
Virginia at Georgia Tech 7:30pm ESPN
Troy at South Alabama 7:30pm ESPNU

Friday, October 21
Matchup Time (ET) TV/Mobile Tickets
Princeton at Harvard 7:00pm ESPNU
Tulsa at Temple 7:30pm ESPN2
UAB at WKU 8:00pm CBSSN

New version of MACtion?

Yup! Maction kicks in in November and also covers Tuesdays.

IIRC the MAC plays no games on Saturday's in November

I'm sure that does nothing to help the school's with their dismal attendance figures.

(10-18-2022 12:26 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 11:44 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 10:14 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 09:01 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 08:00 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Wednesday, October 19
Matchup Time (ET) TV/Mobile Tickets
Georgia State at Appalachian State 7:30pm ESPN2

Thursday, October 20
Matchup Time (ET) TV/Mobile Tickets
Virginia at Georgia Tech 7:30pm ESPN
Troy at South Alabama 7:30pm ESPNU

Friday, October 21
Matchup Time (ET) TV/Mobile Tickets
Princeton at Harvard 7:00pm ESPNU
Tulsa at Temple 7:30pm ESPN2
UAB at WKU 8:00pm CBSSN

New version of MACtion?

Yup! Maction kicks in in November and also covers Tuesdays.

IIRC the MAC plays no games on Saturday's in November

I'm sure that does nothing to help the school's with their dismal attendance figures.

Their admins have been pretty open about how much more lucrative the media deal is vs. their gate takes in MAC games anyways. Most all attendees in GA seats get them for free or close enough to. Hell, I've had season ti kits for UT football and UT basketball for free for each of the last 7 years.

(10-19-2022 06:10 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 12:26 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 11:44 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 10:14 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 09:01 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  New version of MACtion?

Yup! Maction kicks in in November and also covers Tuesdays.

IIRC the MAC plays no games on Saturday's in November

I'm sure that does nothing to help the school's with their dismal attendance figures.

Their admins have been pretty open about how much more lucrative the media deal is vs. their gate takes in MAC games anyways. Most all attendees in GA seats get them for free or close enough to. Hell, I've had season ti kits for UT football and UT basketball for free for each of the last 7 years.

I can't imagine that's a sustainable business model. It's not like the MAC has a gold plated media deal either. Is the MAC's future really in FCS?

MAC average attendance thru this past weekend:

93. Toledo (4) - 20,713
94. Ohio (3) - 20,712
95. Central Michigan (3) - 20,355
104. Western Michigan (4) - 18,548
107. Kent State (2) - 17,922
108. Buffalo (2) - 17,774
119. Eastern Michigan (4) - 15,658
122. Bowling Green (4) - 13,775
123. Northern Illinois (3) - 12,552
124. Miami, OH (2) - 12,097
126. Ball State (4) - 11,851
129. Akron (3) - 10,553

With the midweek action picking up it’s not going to get better.

(10-19-2022 07:20 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  MAC average attendance thru this past weekend:

93. Toledo (4) - 20,713
94. Ohio (3) - 20,712
95. Central Michigan (3) - 20,355
104. Western Michigan (4) - 18,548
107. Kent State (2) - 17,922
108. Buffalo (2) - 17,774
119. Eastern Michigan (4) - 15,658
122. Bowling Green (4) - 13,775
123. Northern Illinois (3) - 12,552
124. Miami, OH (2) - 12,097
126. Ball State (4) - 11,851
129. Akron (3) - 10,553

With the midweek action picking up it’s not going to get better.

... and you KNOW those numbers are inflated. Greatly inflated.

(10-19-2022 07:20 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  MAC average attendance thru this past weekend:

93. Toledo (4) - 20,713
94. Ohio (3) - 20,712
95. Central Michigan (3) - 20,355
104. Western Michigan (4) - 18,548
107. Kent State (2) - 17,922
108. Buffalo (2) - 17,774
119. Eastern Michigan (4) - 15,658
122. Bowling Green (4) - 13,775
123. Northern Illinois (3) - 12,552
124. Miami, OH (2) - 12,097
126. Ball State (4) - 11,851
129. Akron (3) - 10,553

With the midweek action picking up it’s not going to get better.

If those schools are really "averaging" that attendance then I have an insurance policy underwritten by IranGlobalLife to sell ya.

(10-19-2022 07:20 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  MAC average attendance thru this past weekend:

93. Toledo (4) - 20,713
94. Ohio (3) - 20,712
95. Central Michigan (3) - 20,355
104. Western Michigan (4) - 18,548
107. Kent State (2) - 17,922
108. Buffalo (2) - 17,774
119. Eastern Michigan (4) - 15,658
122. Bowling Green (4) - 13,775
123. Northern Illinois (3) - 12,552
124. Miami, OH (2) - 12,097
126. Ball State (4) - 11,851
129. Akron (3) - 10,553

With the midweek action picking up it’s not going to get better.

Now tell me again why we are playing Miami at Oxford or Paycor?

The biggest draws for Miami U. is when UC and/or Ohio University come to town. Most of their students and alums just don't give a rip. It's notable Chuck Martin is in his 9th year and the administration there seems content on 6-6 seasons as a ceiling. They are making most of their money on buy games OOC and the MACtion TV deal.

(10-19-2022 06:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 06:10 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 12:26 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 11:44 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 10:14 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Yup! Maction kicks in in November and also covers Tuesdays.

IIRC the MAC plays no games on Saturday's in November

I'm sure that does nothing to help the school's with their dismal attendance figures.

Their admins have been pretty open about how much more lucrative the media deal is vs. their gate takes in MAC games anyways. Most all attendees in GA seats get them for free or close enough to. Hell, I've had season ti kits for UT football and UT basketball for free for each of the last 7 years.

I can't imagine that's a sustainable business model. It's not like the MAC has a gold plated media deal either. Is the MAC's future really in FCS?

Hey...that's been the model for well on two decades at this point, and Toledo tends to be the best when it comes to attendance. There is only one MAC school that makes more than 25% of its expenses every year in the AD...f*ck treading water, most of those schools are just trying to hold their breathe long enough for the sharks to give them a quicker death than the drowning will.

(10-19-2022 11:11 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 06:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 06:10 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 12:26 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 11:44 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  IIRC the MAC plays no games on Saturday's in November

I'm sure that does nothing to help the school's with their dismal attendance figures.

Their admins have been pretty open about how much more lucrative the media deal is vs. their gate takes in MAC games anyways. Most all attendees in GA seats get them for free or close enough to. Hell, I've had season ti kits for UT football and UT basketball for free for each of the last 7 years.

I can't imagine that's a sustainable business model. It's not like the MAC has a gold plated media deal either. Is the MAC's future really in FCS?

Hey...that's been the model for well on two decades at this point, and Toledo tends to be the best when it comes to attendance. There is only one MAC school that makes more than 25% of its expenses every year in the AD...f*ck treading water, most of those schools are just trying to hold their breathe long enough for the sharks to give them a quicker death than the drowning will.

Why are we helping them fend off the sharks?

The future of the MAC is FCS.

(10-19-2022 10:09 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 07:20 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  MAC average attendance thru this past weekend:

93. Toledo (4) - 20,713
94. Ohio (3) - 20,712
95. Central Michigan (3) - 20,355
104. Western Michigan (4) - 18,548
107. Kent State (2) - 17,922
108. Buffalo (2) - 17,774
119. Eastern Michigan (4) - 15,658
122. Bowling Green (4) - 13,775
123. Northern Illinois (3) - 12,552
124. Miami, OH (2) - 12,097
126. Ball State (4) - 11,851
129. Akron (3) - 10,553

With the midweek action picking up it’s not going to get better.

Now tell me again why we are playing Miami at Oxford or Paycor?

Their AD threatened to cancel the series, our AD blinked and this was the compromise.

Ned time they threaten tell them the door is that way.

(10-19-2022 11:16 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 11:11 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 06:57 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 06:10 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-18-2022 12:26 PM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I'm sure that does nothing to help the school's with their dismal attendance figures.

Their admins have been pretty open about how much more lucrative the media deal is vs. their gate takes in MAC games anyways. Most all attendees in GA seats get them for free or close enough to. Hell, I've had season ti kits for UT football and UT basketball for free for each of the last 7 years.

I can't imagine that's a sustainable business model. It's not like the MAC has a gold plated media deal either. Is the MAC's future really in FCS?

Hey...that's been the model for well on two decades at this point, and Toledo tends to be the best when it comes to attendance. There is only one MAC school that makes more than 25% of its expenses every year in the AD...f*ck treading water, most of those schools are just trying to hold their breathe long enough for the sharks to give them a quicker death than the drowning will.

Why are we helping them fend off the sharks?

The future of the MAC is FCS.

Oh, 100%...there is no reason why any school but Ohio, WMU and Buffalo should be FBS in that conference. with the finances and fan engagement numbers they all have.

Almost all of the non-P5 TV deals are about finding the best off-night in sports to maximize viewers. I would assume every Mac school is right around the same weekly viewer # of 10,000 to 200,000 people. If you can find a way to register on the Nielsen ratings with, idk, a random Thursday night Maction game it probably goes a long way toward providing an actual media figure worth chasing. Otherwise it could just be any generic football being played.

Computer numbers have seen UCF surge in recent weeks. UC dropped out of the composite top 25 with the USF performance but are right there on the fringe.

(10-19-2022 01:26 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  



Computer numbers have seen UCF surge in recent weeks. UC dropped out of the composite top 25 with the USF performance but are right there on the fringe.

Hard to argue with their rise, as that Temple performance might be the most efficient offensive performance any team has had all year.

(10-19-2022 11:44 AM)bearcatmill Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 10:09 AM)doss2 Wrote:  

(10-19-2022 07:20 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  MAC average attendance thru this past weekend:

93. Toledo (4) - 20,713
94. Ohio (3) - 20,712
95. Central Michigan (3) - 20,355
104. Western Michigan (4) - 18,548
107. Kent State (2) - 17,922
108. Buffalo (2) - 17,774
119. Eastern Michigan (4) - 15,658
122. Bowling Green (4) - 13,775
123. Northern Illinois (3) - 12,552
124. Miami, OH (2) - 12,097
126. Ball State (4) - 11,851
129. Akron (3) - 10,553

With the midweek action picking up it’s not going to get better.

Now tell me again why we are playing Miami at Oxford or Paycor?

Their AD threatened to cancel the series, our AD blinked and this was the compromise.

Our AD should have said FO!

App State down 14-0 to GA State. They look horrible. How did they beat TAMU and almost beat UNC?

APSU woke up now 14-14