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Mark this down as an important milestone, an indication for where sports TV is headed:

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Amazon Thursday Night Football audience (11.8M) exceeds the Week 1 and Week 2 ESPN/ESPN2 Monday Night Football audience (9.9M, 7.9M).
09-22-2022 08:53 AM
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Pretty impressive...the younger generation really has embraced streaming over linear means. The Boomers it appears has figured it out too.
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(09-22-2022 09:23 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Pretty impressive...the younger generation really has embraced streaming over linear means. The Boomers it appears has figured it out too.

10 years from now people will be screaming that Amazon has too much influence over the sport and how they wish it would just go out of business so that we can get back to the way it used to be...
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Who called the game?
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I don't see how that's possible. I can't be the only one that has ESPN but not Amazon video.
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(08-18-2022 03:16 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(08-18-2022 02:48 PM)tj_2009 Wrote:  This is the start of the streaming era for college football. The current TV era has started its decline and streaming will be the future for sports and other content live movies and sitcoms. I think the Amazon streaming platform has the rights for Thursday night NFL football this season. Apple TV has started broadcasting Friday night baseball.

These are experiments. Time will tell whether they work out. Maybe some people are willing to pay for a half dozen streaming services. My guess is that not many will be willing to.

If you're a Notre Dame fan, are you willing to go to the trouble of signing up for Peacock just for a meaningless game? Yes, they'll have a free trial period but you'll have to go to the trouble of signing up and then remembering to cancel. Is it worth the hassle?

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(09-22-2022 09:47 AM)esayem Wrote:  Who called the game?

Al Michaels & Kirk Herbstreit ...

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Quote:However, Amazon getting involved with college football could change the paradigm. The platform would surely use its NFL "Thursday Night Football" package to promote college games on Saturday and vice versa. Warren was known to be previously interested in getting a major streamer involved in that existing Big Ten deal.

If Amazon wants to join the Big Ten party, doing so would require the conference to expand beyond its forthcoming additions of USC and UCLA.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-continue/

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Kind of wonder why we share 50% of our profit with a network when streaming is there. Just too much overhead with the old mediums.
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Is this what we really mean by streaming though? Or is this just an alternate cable package?
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(09-22-2022 10:50 AM)nole Wrote:  Kind of wonder why we share 50% of our profit with a network when streaming is there. Just too much overhead with the old mediums.

I haven't seen a sign that any conference is ready to do its own stand-alone streaming service. I have my doubts that any will. You'll always be sharing the profits with Amazon or Disney or whoever.
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(09-22-2022 03:52 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(09-22-2022 10:50 AM)nole Wrote:  Kind of wonder why we share 50% of our profit with a network when streaming is there. Just too much overhead with the old mediums.

I haven't seen a sign that any conference is ready to do its own stand-alone streaming service. I have my doubts that any will. You'll always be sharing the profits with Amazon or Disney or whoever.

The issue, ultimately, is that exposure and winning are more important than money. So, yes, there are ways to make more money - but if (a) no one ever sees you play, and (b) it hurts recruiting to the point that you no longer win at a high level, then it's not worth it.
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(09-22-2022 09:23 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Pretty impressive...the younger generation really has embraced streaming over linear means. The Boomers it appears has figured it out too.

(09-22-2022 09:34 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  10 years from now people will be screaming that Amazon has too much influence over the sport and how they wish it would just go out of business so that we can get back to the way it used to be...

'Remember those great cable bundles you used to get with all those great viewing options? Yeah, good times...'
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I am intrigued by the possibility of someday ND converting Fighting Irish TV into a subscription only model streaming service for ND football home games, no networks involved.

How many ND fans will pay ten bucks a month for this in order to watch ND football, plus other content?

Two million? More? Less? How much money can ND generate from this without having to share it with....anyone?

Jack Swarbrick said this about streaming an ND game on Peacock:

"He noted it is "less about what it might lead to for us than where the industry is going."

Swarbrick: "It is moving to streaming. In some number of years ... NBC will be Peacock and ESPN will be Disney+. We can all see this in our own lives." Swarbrick also noted fans "cannot have watched the pregame programming and the postgame programming and not have embraced what we were able to do" on a non-linear broadcast.

Swarbrick: "That’s all content you can’t do on a linear broadcast. ... It’s all stuff that streaming let us do." Swarbrick also noted streaming "lets us know who’s watching the game. You can’t get that information on a linear broadcast. And if we know who’s watching the game, we can communicate with them more effectively"


He also said this about Fighting Irish TV:

"If Irish fans truly embrace football independence, they should embrace the possibilities of Fighting Irish TV."

I think that ND is very interested in streaming versus linear networks in the future.
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(09-23-2022 08:58 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/TomLoy247/status/157...0586317824

TGIF

A guy decommitted. Never happened to anyone before, not even Miami.

What does this have to do with streaming and where we are headed?

NON-SEQUITUR
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(09-23-2022 09:31 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(09-23-2022 08:58 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/TomLoy247/status/157...0586317824

TGIF

A guy decommitted. Never happened to anyone before, not even Miami.

What does this have to do with streaming and where we are headed?

NON-SEQUITUR

account for a downturn ...

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(09-23-2022 04:59 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  
(09-22-2022 09:23 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Pretty impressive...the younger generation really has embraced streaming over linear means. The Boomers it appears has figured it out too.

(09-22-2022 09:34 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  10 years from now people will be screaming that Amazon has too much influence over the sport and how they wish it would just go out of business so that we can get back to the way it used to be...

'Remember those great cable bundles you used to get with all those great viewing options? Yeah, good times...'

We used to complain when cable cost $65/month.
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(09-23-2022 08:00 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I am intrigued by the possibility of someday ND converting Fighting Irish TV into a subscription only model streaming service for ND football home games, no networks involved.

How many ND fans will pay ten bucks a month for this in order to watch ND football, plus other content?

Two million? More? Less? How much money can ND generate from this without having to share it with....anyone?

Jack Swarbrick said this about streaming an ND game on Peacock:

"He noted it is "less about what it might lead to for us than where the industry is going."

Swarbrick: "It is moving to streaming. In some number of years ... NBC will be Peacock and ESPN will be Disney+. We can all see this in our own lives." Swarbrick also noted fans "cannot have watched the pregame programming and the postgame programming and not have embraced what we were able to do" on a non-linear broadcast.

Swarbrick: "That’s all content you can’t do on a linear broadcast. ... It’s all stuff that streaming let us do." Swarbrick also noted streaming "lets us know who’s watching the game. You can’t get that information on a linear broadcast. And if we know who’s watching the game, we can communicate with them more effectively"


He also said this about Fighting Irish TV:

"If Irish fans truly embrace football independence, they should embrace the possibilities of Fighting Irish TV."

I think that ND is very interested in streaming versus linear networks in the future.

Yes. Yes. YES

This is what I’ve been harping about.

1- Why should large brands be tied to a conference for their broadcast/streaming package if they can make more money on their lonesome, offer a more personalized fan experience, and even start covering away games like radio?

* btw, didn’t ND on NBC used to have much more homer announcers? I actually liked that because it reminded me of sports radio, which I still listen to cutting the grass, in the car etc. Sometimes you want to watch the game with your pals that know everything about the team!

2- Streaming a football game is super cheap (relatively speaking) and makes a lot of money. This is obviously where the industry is headed. I wouldn’t be surprised if universities started offering this within their curriculum as hands-on classes. Seminar In Streaming Athletics in the College of Media Presentation.

3- This isn’t a new concept! I’d have to dig up the info, but I’m positive UPenn had a lucrative TV contract back when they played a national schedule and the NCAA shut it down because they weren’t making money.

4- Which brings me to my last point: the NCAA is weakened to the point they have hardly any control over anything. This means we’re going to get back to where we used to be: the UPenn model, aka the current Notre Dame model without the peacock middleman. One other difference: conference allegiance can still be maintained. I see no reason why we can’t have independent deals with teams in conferences. That’s evolution. You end up with a great schedule featuring regional rivals, the weak sisters, and round it out with a few national matchups of interest. The great thing about the Little League WS is that we see teams play each other that usually don’t. That’s what made the Rose Bowl special, or bowl games in general. THAT should be the goal of the expanded playoff.
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(09-22-2022 10:16 AM)green Wrote:  
Quote:However, Amazon getting involved with college football could change the paradigm. The platform would surely use its NFL "Thursday Night Football" package to promote college games on Saturday and vice versa. Warren was known to be previously interested in getting a major streamer involved in that existing Big Ten deal.

If Amazon wants to join the Big Ten party, doing so would require the conference to expand beyond its forthcoming additions of USC and UCLA.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...-continue/

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It would not surprise me to see Amazon and Apple both bid on college football packages. Both of these companies are using Streaming to increase the memberships on their websites. I think they will not limit things to the Big Ten either.
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