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RE: *Official Thread* President Biden addresses Nation regarding MAGA threat to democracy
Again, draw the battle lines and let’s get this over with. America can be liberal free by about Wednesday if we start now. It would be such a better place without having the scum of the Earth leftists around wasting our oxygen supply.
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(09-03-2022 09:24 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

When did the Trumo Administration commit fascist acts like directly conspiring with social media platforms to deplatform anyone who disagreed with the president’s narrative. That’s what Democrats do. I guess it turns out Trump was right about Democrats...again.
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(09-03-2022 09:06 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:37 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Statement of the obvious: presidents are (or at least should be) held to a much higher standard. Although human, they speak for the nation.

When a Trump apologist dismissively says “mean tweets”, it is a lame rhetorical whitewash of a basic duty of Donald Trump to act as leader of the nation and not as a snot-faced, spoiled child.

When an America-hating progressive makes excuses for the most divisive comments ever offered by a sitting president - - calling 40-plus percent of the population enemies of democracy - - it is as close to a call to arms coming from people whom are not at all prepared for the fight they are inviting.

Acting as if a secret warrant obrtained from a tainted quasi-judge to raid the home of a former president is no different than any everyday criminal investigation because “no one is above the law” is a disgusting cop out. As awful as Donald Trump is, he never did anything anything close to what the Biden team has done in weaponizing their gov’t against the our co-citizens.

Trump is no paragon of responsible leadership, but he is a piker compared to the evil behavior of this current administration.
Of course you'd find a way to both sides it

There’s a third side here: those who sincerely care first for the interest of this great nation and not for making excuses for the selfish and dangerous excesses of their own team.

Link me to a single post of yours, Kruciff, acknowledging the gestapo-level behavior of the Obama/Biden team in weaponizing the gov’t against its political enemies. There are plenty of examples to choose from: Holder, Lois Lerner, Loretta Lynch, Strzok/Page, Rice/Powers (unmasking), Clinesmith, Thieboult - - just for a few.

Unless you can do that, then you in my assessment are among the enablers willing to tear down our country for cheap political “wins”.
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(09-03-2022 11:26 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 09:06 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:37 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Statement of the obvious: presidents are (or at least should be) held to a much higher standard. Although human, they speak for the nation.

When a Trump apologist dismissively says “mean tweets”, it is a lame rhetorical whitewash of a basic duty of Donald Trump to act as leader of the nation and not as a snot-faced, spoiled child.

When an America-hating progressive makes excuses for the most divisive comments ever offered by a sitting president - - calling 40-plus percent of the population enemies of democracy - - it is as close to a call to arms coming from people whom are not at all prepared for the fight they are inviting.

Acting as if a secret warrant obrtained from a tainted quasi-judge to raid the home of a former president is no different than any everyday criminal investigation because “no one is above the law” is a disgusting cop out. As awful as Donald Trump is, he never did anything anything close to what the Biden team has done in weaponizing their gov’t against the our co-citizens.

Trump is no paragon of responsible leadership, but he is a piker compared to the evil behavior of this current administration.
Of course you'd find a way to both sides it

There’s a third side here: those who sincerely care first for the interest of this great nation and not for making excuses for the selfish and dangerous excesses of their own team.

Link me to a single post of yours, Kruciff, acknowledging the gestapo-level behavior of the Obama/Biden team in weaponizing the gov’t against its political enemies. There are plenty of examples to choose from: Holder, Lois Lerner, Loretta Lynch, Strzok/Page, Rice/Powers (unmasking), Clinesmith, Thieboult - - just for a few.

Unless you can do that, then you in my assessment are among the enablers willing to tear down our country for cheap political “wins”.

I hope you devote as much time to the National Democrat fascist pedo hitler as you have to OMB
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I will now concede that I am probably WRONG in anticipating the formal split and disillusion of America happening in about 40+ years.

It will be SOONER...in fact it probably has already begun with so many citizens moving now to areas they find more compatible to their lifestyle and belief systems. California and New York are losing a lot of their citizens. I believe most of the moves are to Florida, Texas, North Carolina, Colorado, and Tennessee (going from memory from a article I read a couple weeks ago).

The bottom line reality is both primary political parties are entrenched in their positions as to how to govern. The core reality is that the split will happen. Hopefully it will be peaceful but it may not be.

Biden* (via the Controller) basically called out a huge swath of US citizens in his speech 2 days ago.

Yet this person ran on uniting America. Not blue state or red state but ALL of America. Here are Biden*'s words from his Inaugural speech:
Through the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War, 9/11, through struggle, sacrifice, and setbacks, our “better angels” have always prevailed.
In each of these moments, enough of us came together to carry all of us forward.
And, we can do so now.
History, faith, and reason show the way, the way of unity.
We can see each other not as adversaries but as neighbors.
We can treat each other with dignity and respect.
We can join forces, stop the shouting, and lower the temperature.
For without unity, there is no peace, only bitterness and fury.
No progress, only exhausting outrage.
No nation, only a state of chaos.


Did Biden* say anything in his speech Thursday night that promoted "stopping the shouting or lowering the temperature"?

Or did Biden* (via the Controller) ramp up the divisiveness by about a factor of 5?

Even the Dems and left leaning folks on this board know the truth: The tone and accusations of that carefully prepared nationally televised speech was DESIGNED TO PURPOSELY ESCALATE DIVISIVENESS in the USA.

HARD STOP.

The left can deny it until Doomsday and keep pointing fingers at EX-PRESIDENT Trump as a diversion but that is the simple truth. That is reality.

C'est la vie. Moving forward...the USA enjoyed a damn good run - 246 years and counting. But the count will end in the first half of this century. I thought it would occur around 2060; that was just too far out.

It will be quicker than that.
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RE: *Official Thread* President Biden addresses Nation regarding MAGA threat to democracy
(09-03-2022 09:29 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 09:03 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:58 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:35 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  This is now my third request on this thread for the sheep touting grandpa's "fiery" speech to EXPLAIN TO ME JUST EXACTLY HOW MAGA PEOPLE ARE A "THREAT TO DEMOCRACY".

I don’t know if you noticed the part where trump tried to get Mike Pence to throw out the results of the election, pressured GA to find the votes, and had states submit fake electors but the part where he actually attacked the fabric of our democracy in an attempt to stay in power pretty much falls into “threat to democracy”.

At 11pm on election night, the odds of Trump losing Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and I think Arizona were each in the BILLION to 1 range.
Each.
And he lost them all. The math on that isn’t calculable.

Nah, nothing fishy there……..

I guess the FBI burying the Hunter Biden stuff before the election is fair game too huh?

BS, just because you can find a grifter to say it doesn’t mean that’s how statistical probability works or can be applied to elections.

Votes aren’t counted randomly from some big pool of statewide votes. They are counted at the district level and each district will have more or less republicans vs democrats based on demographics. Self selection of mail in vs in person and the bias to democrats there also comes into play when the remaining votes are mail in ballots.

Blah blah blah with your bullshirt.
The odds were billions to 1 that Trump would lose all those states at 11pm eastern time on election night.

The Hunter Biden mess was covered up by the FBI prior to the election. Covered up. Wonder why?

Joe Biden getting 81 million votes is complete bs. He snd your party are a joke. It’s pathetic.
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(09-02-2022 03:23 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 02:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 01:17 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I've got to hand it to Biden he took the gloves off yesterday and you can tell it hurt. MAGAs crying about how unfair it all is. Snowflakes. And I also like the fact that Biden drew a distinction between Republicans and extremist science denying truth denying MAGA Republicans. These people are a danger to our democracy and I hope other Democrats and Republicans, together, continue to call these people out full force like Biden. It's about time.



I have to hand it to you. You are making clear you are perfectly fine with the President of the United States and leader of the free world calling 75 million voters terrorists and threatening them with military action.

You are making clear you are just fine with going full nazi on the American public and being the might of military against half the country.

You make no apologies about it, you see half the country just as Hitler saw the Jews in 1938-45. You have no interest in remotely hiding the fact that you are salivating at the thought of purging and genociding half the country.

We always knew that was really how you felt and who you really were, but I do want to thank you for finally getting honest about it.

Aww, it’s cute when the Nazis pretend they are the persecuted party and compare themselves to the Jews.

Republicans only make up 25% of the US population, and MAGA Republicans who are willing to trample democracy for their Orange Idol are a subset of republicans. Don’t flatter yourself to think that half of Americans share your beliefs.

We see you as the NAZIs in the 1920s trying to rise to power by subverting our democracy because you can’t win the popular vote.

"We" being a subset of democrats who make up similar numbers as republicans. We see you as Castro, Lenin, Marx and Mao all rolled into one so GTFO.
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(09-02-2022 03:49 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 03:40 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 03:23 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 02:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 01:17 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I've got to hand it to Biden he took the gloves off yesterday and you can tell it hurt. MAGAs crying about how unfair it all is. Snowflakes. And I also like the fact that Biden drew a distinction between Republicans and extremist science denying truth denying MAGA Republicans. These people are a danger to our democracy and I hope other Democrats and Republicans, together, continue to call these people out full force like Biden. It's about time.



I have to hand it to you. You are making clear you are perfectly fine with the President of the United States and leader of the free world calling 75 million voters terrorists and threatening them with military action.

You are making clear you are just fine with going full nazi on the American public and being the might of military against half the country.

You make no apologies about it, you see half the country just as Hitler saw the Jews in 1938-45. You have no interest in remotely hiding the fact that you are salivating at the thought of purging and genociding half the country.

We always knew that was really how you felt and who you really were, but I do want to thank you for finally getting honest about it.

Aww, it’s cute when the Nazis pretend they are the persecuted party and compare themselves to the Jews.

Republicans only make up 25% of the US population, and MAGA Republicans who are willing to trample democracy for their Orange Idol are a subset of republicans. Don’t flatter yourself to think that half of Americans share your beliefs.

We see you as the NAZIs in the 1920s trying to rise to power by subverting our democracy because you can’t win the popular vote.

25%? Your are such a delusional s-bag

Trumps 2020 popular vote turn out was 28.7 percent of the voting age population in 2020. You have no facts, only name calling.

You sure like your unsourced claims.
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(09-02-2022 04:18 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 03:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 03:43 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 03:34 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 03:15 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  WTF are you ranting about? When has the popular vote ever elected a POTUS? You can't be that stupid. The rest is as unhinged as that so not even worth responding to.

The popular vote at the state level determines the electors of that state. You are misreading the comment. Republican state lawmakers are engineering a system where they can deny the will of the people by claiming fraud then have the state senate vote on the slate of electors to send. There are several states with Republican controlled state senates even though they have more democrat voters due to over representation of rural areas.

Lets look at this another way. You have states controlled by democrats at the state level trying to force their state to give elector votes to the person who had more overall votes nation wide...

even if that person lost that state

As for your " There are several states with Republican controlled state senates even though they have more democrat voters due to over representation of rural areas"

A lot of "democrats" vote republican or should I say for the person they believe might do the best job. Not always party line. How do you think Trump won in 2016?

Say what now? That would only be relevant with the popular vote pact that hasn’t reached enough states to ratify.

I’m talking about right now in states like Georgia the Georgia voters elect the slate of electors for the democrat, and then the Republican state senate claims fraud and votes to send a slate of electors for a Republican candidate.

After 2020 and the failure to start of the “fake electors” scheme state republicans are working to put laws in place to disregard the state vote for president and send different electors.

You do realize that Dems do the exact same thing in many other states, right?

It's mind-numbing to think you actually believe what you type. Dems control the WH, Senate, House, FBI, DOJ, CDC, FDA, IRS, and almost every other goverment agency, along with NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, WaPo, NYT, Google, every single prominent social media platform, Hollywood, and most of corporate America, yet you rail against Republicans saying they cause so much damage to our nation.

I mean, the lack of self-awareness is beyond comprehension.

meh, facts don't matter to loons like Elvi
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(09-02-2022 07:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Jean-Pierre: "We have created nearly ten thousand million jobs since President Biden took office"

Thrse are the low iq morons we are dealing with with whom we are dealing.


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(09-02-2022 09:58 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 08:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 07:31 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 05:40 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  26% of Americans of any age is still more than voted for trump. You are looking at only 21% of the total US population. I will admit I underestimated the 25 when it was actually 28% of VAP.

All thread you guys keep claiming Biden is alienating half of Americans, I’m just pointing out that is way an overestimate as his speech didn’t even target all of republicans, only the subset who endorse attacking the fabric of democracy for their orange idol.

Because he is alienating close to half of America. You think no indpendents voted for Trump or preferred how the nation functioned under Trump? Hell, a lot of working man union members who are registered Democrats were MAGA voters. You keep acting like what Biden did last night was normal. It wasnt. It was the single more divisive and dark speech Ive ever seen from a US president. I remember the press going nuts over the "dark and divisive" Trump inauguration speech---but that speech was "Morning in America" compared to that absolutely unhinged attack on a huge segment of US citizens I witnessed last night from Biden.

Is 28% of the Voting Age Population half of America?

You greatly overestimate the number of MAGA nutters because of low voter turnout and especially low Primary turnout which has not sides having to play to vocal minorities around the primaries.


You quibble over pointless percentages because you want to justify the POTUS using the darkest possible language and attacks on 75 million Americans.

There is literally no further extremist level he can take the rhetoric to. Once you label half the voters as fascists, terrorists, and enemies of the state there is no going back or pushing it further. No POTUS in the history of the republic has ever attacked half the voters like this. NEVER.

250 years this nation has stood and no POTUS has ever made such attacks and used such extremist language against those who voted against him.

And if he and people like you actually believe those things are true you are flat out telling us we do not deserve to be treated as fellow citizens or have the rights granted to us in the constitution because we are fascists and enemies of the state. Once you put those words and accusations out there and treat them as fact, there is no action you can take against us in the future that needs to be justified, be it a purge or out right round up of dissenting voters and imprisonment or eliminating them.

That is the obvious reality and end game of this type of rhetoric. If we are fascists, terrorists and enemies of the state then we do not deserve the constitutional rights and protections it grants us.

And you are making it totally clear that is your position and you are proud of it.

In 250 years no lame duck POTUS has ever attacked the fabric of our democracy by trying to overturn the election.

If Pence had caved and not accepted the electors from GA, PA, and WI do you feel that it would have been the correct and ethical course of action supported by the constitution?

If your answer to that question is yes then you are a fascist who supports destroying the fabric of our democracy and installing a non elected leader against the will of the people.

If no Biden might not be talking to you.

He made it clear that there is a difference between normal republicans and the extremists who supported overturning the election.

The day after his speech when he was told he needed to walk back the rhetoric.
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(09-03-2022 07:17 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 12:26 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  Elvis, I just can't thank you enough for showing us who you really are.

Biden goes full Hitler on half the electorate and you go into an orgasmic state over it. Its never been more clear who the real fascists in America are.

You are who we thought you were.

Talk about showing your true colors, WOW.

Proudly rooting for democracy here. Can’t say the same for some of y’all.

Well, we root for our republic. You know, since we really aren't in any way shape or form a democracy.
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(09-03-2022 07:45 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Just catching up on this thread, after a GREAT start to the 2022 college football season.

This post succinctly sums up Thursday night’s speech:

(09-02-2022 03:43 PM)PlainTiger Wrote:  Well, the democrats sure gave us a peek at their vision for our country. Wow.

And Eric's comment that "they are who we thought they were" wraps it all up neatly.
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(09-03-2022 08:37 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Statement of the obvious: presidents are (or at least should be) held to a much higher standard. Although human, they speak for the nation.

When a Trump apologist dismissively says “mean tweets”, it is a lame rhetorical whitewash of a basic duty of Donald Trump to act as leader of the nation and not as a snot-faced, spoiled child.

When an America-hating progressive makes excuses for the most divisive comments ever offered by a sitting president - - calling 40-plus percent of the population enemies of democracy - - it is as close to a call to arms coming from people whom are not at all prepared for the fight they are inviting.

Acting as if a secret warrant obrtained from a tainted quasi-judge to raid the home of a former president is no different than any everyday criminal investigation because “no one is above the law” is a disgusting cop out. As awful as Donald Trump is, he never did anything anything close to what the Biden team has done in weaponizing their gov’t against the our co-citizens.

Trump is no paragon of responsible leadership, but he is a piker compared to the evil behavior of this current administration.

So you'll be holding your nose and voting for Trump in 26. Good for you. 04-cheers
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(09-03-2022 09:19 AM)No Bull Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:23 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:15 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-speech-...39767.html

Quote:Yahoo News
Biden speech denouncing Trump, 'MAGA ideology' sparks threats, calls for violence
Jana Winter
Jana Winter·Investigative Correspondent
Fri, September 2, 2022 at 7:31 PM·6 min read

President Biden’s fiery speech in Philadelphia denouncing former President Donald Trump and what he described as “extreme MAGA ideology” has sparked online calls for violence, including death threats against the president, according to documents obtained by Yahoo News.

Biden’s remarks also prompted immediate concerns from senior counterterrorism officials who said they fear that calling Trump supporters extremists would be viewed as a call to arms and would only inflame an already volatile threat environment.


By Friday afternoon, posts on forums popular among white supremacists and far-right extremists called for the assassination of Biden, and named Jewish administration officials including Attorney General Merrick Garland, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas as potential targets. Declarations of civil war were also appearing, according to documents detailing some of the threats.


You call a violent person violent what do you expect the reaction will be. You call a violent group violent why would it be different. MAGATs on display.

Exactly, they're demonstrating that the President was correct in what he said and that it needed saying. I also agree with the President that these dangerous extremists do not represent the majority of Republicans, and the ball is now in that quieter majority's court. Follow the orange man down the golden path to destruction, or retake your party for conservatives who support democracy and the Constitution.

What actions have these extremist groups taken post Jan 6th? What necessitated the führer’s speech Thursday night. Please inform us?

They can't. And they know it, that's why they are ignoring you.
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(09-03-2022 12:22 PM)boss man Wrote:  I will now concede that I am probably WRONG in anticipating the formal split and disillusion of America happening in about 40+ years.

It will be SOONER...in fact it probably has already begun with so many citizens moving now to areas they find more compatible to their lifestyle and belief systems. California and New York are losing a lot of their citizens. I believe most of the moves are to Florida, Texas, North Carolina, Colorado, and Tennessee (going from memory from a article I read a couple weeks ago).

The bottom line reality is both primary political parties are entrenched in their positions as to how to govern. The core reality is that the split will happen. Hopefully it will be peaceful but it may not be.

Biden* (via the Controller) basically called out a huge swath of US citizens in his speech 2 days ago.

Yet this person ran on uniting America. Not blue state or red state but ALL of America. Here are Biden*'s words from his Inaugural speech:
Through the Civil War, the Great Depression, World War, 9/11, through struggle, sacrifice, and setbacks, our “better angels” have always prevailed.
In each of these moments, enough of us came together to carry all of us forward.
And, we can do so now.
History, faith, and reason show the way, the way of unity.
We can see each other not as adversaries but as neighbors.
We can treat each other with dignity and respect.
We can join forces, stop the shouting, and lower the temperature.
For without unity, there is no peace, only bitterness and fury.
No progress, only exhausting outrage.
No nation, only a state of chaos.


Did Biden* say anything in his speech Thursday night that promoted "stopping the shouting or lowering the temperature"?

Or did Biden* (via the Controller) ramp up the divisiveness by about a factor of 5?

Even the Dems and left leaning folks on this board know the truth: The tone and accusations of that carefully prepared nationally televised speech was DESIGNED TO PURPOSELY ESCALATE DIVISIVENESS in the USA.

HARD STOP.

The left can deny it until Doomsday and keep pointing fingers at EX-PRESIDENT Trump as a diversion but that is the simple truth. That is reality.

C'est la vie. Moving forward...the USA enjoyed a damn good run - 246 years and counting. But the count will end in the first half of this century. I thought it would occur around 2060; that was just too far out.

It will be quicker than that.

TN doesn't want them, they will bring their stupidity with them. That excludes Nashville and Memphis obviously.
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RE: *Official Thread* President Biden addresses Nation regarding MAGA threat to democracy
We are currently the former Yugoslavia circa 1990. The government currently in power here is doing exactly the same thing that was being done there at this time. The POTUS literally came out for no reason to give a speech condemning the followers of his opponent as "the enemy".
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(09-03-2022 01:08 PM)450bench Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 09:29 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 09:03 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:58 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-03-2022 08:35 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  This is now my third request on this thread for the sheep touting grandpa's "fiery" speech to EXPLAIN TO ME JUST EXACTLY HOW MAGA PEOPLE ARE A "THREAT TO DEMOCRACY".

I don’t know if you noticed the part where trump tried to get Mike Pence to throw out the results of the election, pressured GA to find the votes, and had states submit fake electors but the part where he actually attacked the fabric of our democracy in an attempt to stay in power pretty much falls into “threat to democracy”.

At 11pm on election night, the odds of Trump losing Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia and I think Arizona were each in the BILLION to 1 range.
Each.
And he lost them all. The math on that isn’t calculable.

Nah, nothing fishy there……..

I guess the FBI burying the Hunter Biden stuff before the election is fair game too huh?

BS, just because you can find a grifter to say it doesn’t mean that’s how statistical probability works or can be applied to elections.

Votes aren’t counted randomly from some big pool of statewide votes. They are counted at the district level and each district will have more or less republicans vs democrats based on demographics. Self selection of mail in vs in person and the bias to democrats there also comes into play when the remaining votes are mail in ballots.

Blah blah blah with your bullshirt.
The odds were billions to 1 that Trump would lose all those states at 11pm eastern time on election night.

The Hunter Biden mess was covered up by the FBI prior to the election. Covered up. Wonder why?

Joe Biden getting 81 million votes is complete bs. He snd your party are a joke. It’s pathetic.

Because you said so. Got it. Get out of here with that unsubstantiated BS.

It’s not how statistics or elections work.
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RE: *Official Thread* President Biden addresses Nation regarding MAGA threat to democracy
(09-03-2022 02:03 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 09:58 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 08:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 07:31 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  
(09-02-2022 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Because he is alienating close to half of America. You think no indpendents voted for Trump or preferred how the nation functioned under Trump? Hell, a lot of working man union members who are registered Democrats were MAGA voters. You keep acting like what Biden did last night was normal. It wasnt. It was the single more divisive and dark speech Ive ever seen from a US president. I remember the press going nuts over the "dark and divisive" Trump inauguration speech---but that speech was "Morning in America" compared to that absolutely unhinged attack on a huge segment of US citizens I witnessed last night from Biden.

Is 28% of the Voting Age Population half of America?

You greatly overestimate the number of MAGA nutters because of low voter turnout and especially low Primary turnout which has not sides having to play to vocal minorities around the primaries.


You quibble over pointless percentages because you want to justify the POTUS using the darkest possible language and attacks on 75 million Americans.

There is literally no further extremist level he can take the rhetoric to. Once you label half the voters as fascists, terrorists, and enemies of the state there is no going back or pushing it further. No POTUS in the history of the republic has ever attacked half the voters like this. NEVER.

250 years this nation has stood and no POTUS has ever made such attacks and used such extremist language against those who voted against him.

And if he and people like you actually believe those things are true you are flat out telling us we do not deserve to be treated as fellow citizens or have the rights granted to us in the constitution because we are fascists and enemies of the state. Once you put those words and accusations out there and treat them as fact, there is no action you can take against us in the future that needs to be justified, be it a purge or out right round up of dissenting voters and imprisonment or eliminating them.

That is the obvious reality and end game of this type of rhetoric. If we are fascists, terrorists and enemies of the state then we do not deserve the constitutional rights and protections it grants us.

And you are making it totally clear that is your position and you are proud of it.

In 250 years no lame duck POTUS has ever attacked the fabric of our democracy by trying to overturn the election.

If Pence had caved and not accepted the electors from GA, PA, and WI do you feel that it would have been the correct and ethical course of action supported by the constitution?

If your answer to that question is yes then you are a fascist who supports destroying the fabric of our democracy and installing a non elected leader against the will of the people.

If no Biden might not be talking to you.

He made it clear that there is a difference between normal republicans and the extremists who supported overturning the election.

The day after his speech when he was told he needed to walk back the rhetoric.

Did y’all listen to the speech, or are you complaining about what Tucker Carlson told you he said?

From the speech:

“ Now, I want to be very clear, very clear up front. Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology. I know, because I’ve been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.”
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RE: *Official Thread* President Biden addresses Nation regarding MAGA threat to democracy
(09-03-2022 01:49 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
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(09-02-2022 03:40 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
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(09-02-2022 02:40 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I have to hand it to you. You are making clear you are perfectly fine with the President of the United States and leader of the free world calling 75 million voters terrorists and threatening them with military action.

You are making clear you are just fine with going full nazi on the American public and being the might of military against half the country.

You make no apologies about it, you see half the country just as Hitler saw the Jews in 1938-45. You have no interest in remotely hiding the fact that you are salivating at the thought of purging and genociding half the country.

We always knew that was really how you felt and who you really were, but I do want to thank you for finally getting honest about it.

Aww, it’s cute when the Nazis pretend they are the persecuted party and compare themselves to the Jews.

Republicans only make up 25% of the US population, and MAGA Republicans who are willing to trample democracy for their Orange Idol are a subset of republicans. Don’t flatter yourself to think that half of Americans share your beliefs.

We see you as the NAZIs in the 1920s trying to rise to power by subverting our democracy because you can’t win the popular vote.

25%? Your are such a delusional s-bag

Trumps 2020 popular vote turn out was 28.7 percent of the voting age population in 2020. You have no facts, only name calling.

You sure like your unsourced claims.

Even you guys can do the math on this. The source is math.

The voting age population is 257M. Trump got 74M votes.

Hit up Kahn academy for help with the math.
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