(09-02-2022 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 05:40 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 04:49 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 04:40 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 04:28 PM)No Bull Wrote:  You are splitting hairs. I don’t care. Our share of the electorate isn’t 25 percent or 28 percent…. idiot.

No one thinks you are clever except your deluded self. When your Nazi party gets steamrolled in the mid terms then you’ll see what I am talking about.

I very clearly wrote that republicans are 25% of the US population. You think I’m an idiot because you don’t have reading comprehension skills. More Republican projection.

Since you want to play games because the only people that actually count are those voting age Americans. But I will play your game and ask you a question....

Since Biden is polling in the 38% range on "voting age Americans" population?

That's like saying only 26% of Americans agree with Biden

26% of Americans of any age is still more than voted for trump. You are looking at only 21% of the total US population. I will admit I underestimated the 25 when it was actually 28% of VAP.

All thread you guys keep claiming Biden is alienating half of Americans, I’m just pointing out that is way an overestimate as his speech didn’t even target all of republicans, only the subset who endorse attacking the fabric of democracy for their orange idol.

Because he is alienating close to half of America. You think no indpendents voted for Trump or preferred how the nation functioned under Trump? Hell, a lot of working man union members who are registered Democrats were MAGA voters. You keep acting like what Biden did last night was normal. It wasnt. It was the single more divisive and dark speech Ive ever seen from a US president. I remember the press going nuts over the "dark and divisive" Trump inauguration speech---but that speech was "Morning in America" compared to that absolutely unhinged attack on a huge segment of US citizens I witnessed last night from Biden.

Is 28% of the Voting Age Population half of America?

You greatly overestimate the number of MAGA nutters because of low voter turnout and especially low Primary turnout which has both sides having to play to vocal minorities around the primaries.

It's probably closer to 35-40% then a strict half. 28% is a joke, tho. Go back to Reddit. The remaining % wouldn't be all Biden/D supporters, btw.

(09-02-2022 07:31 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 05:40 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 04:49 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 04:40 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  I very clearly wrote that republicans are 25% of the US population. You think I’m an idiot because you don’t have reading comprehension skills. More Republican projection.

Since you want to play games because the only people that actually count are those voting age Americans. But I will play your game and ask you a question....

Since Biden is polling in the 38% range on "voting age Americans" population?

That's like saying only 26% of Americans agree with Biden

26% of Americans of any age is still more than voted for trump. You are looking at only 21% of the total US population. I will admit I underestimated the 25 when it was actually 28% of VAP.

All thread you guys keep claiming Biden is alienating half of Americans, I’m just pointing out that is way an overestimate as his speech didn’t even target all of republicans, only the subset who endorse attacking the fabric of democracy for their orange idol.

Because he is alienating close to half of America. You think no indpendents voted for Trump or preferred how the nation functioned under Trump? Hell, a lot of working man union members who are registered Democrats were MAGA voters. You keep acting like what Biden did last night was normal. It wasnt. It was the single more divisive and dark speech Ive ever seen from a US president. I remember the press going nuts over the "dark and divisive" Trump inauguration speech---but that speech was "Morning in America" compared to that absolutely unhinged attack on a huge segment of US citizens I witnessed last night from Biden.

Is 28% of the Voting Age Population half of America?

You greatly overestimate the number of MAGA nutters because of low voter turnout and especially low Primary turnout which has not sides having to play to vocal minorities around the primaries.

You quibble over pointless percentages because you want to justify the POTUS using the darkest possible language and attacks on 75 million Americans.

There is literally no further extremist level he can take the rhetoric to. Once you label half the voters as fascists, terrorists, and enemies of the state there is no going back or pushing it further. No POTUS in the history of the republic has ever attacked half the voters like this. NEVER.

250 years this nation has stood and no POTUS has ever made such attacks and used such extremist language against those who voted against him.

And if he and people like you actually believe those things are true you are flat out telling us we do not deserve to be treated as fellow citizens or have the rights granted to us in the constitution because we are fascists and enemies of the state. Once you put those words and accusations out there and treat them as fact, there is no action you can take against us in the future that needs to be justified, be it a purge or out right round up of dissenting voters and imprisonment or eliminating them.

That is the obvious reality and end game of this type of rhetoric. If we are fascists, terrorists and enemies of the state then we do not deserve the constitutional rights and protections it grants us.

And you are making it totally clear that is your position and you are proud of it.

(09-01-2022 09:12 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  Y'all complaining about the content of the message, and not the point of the message.

Trump is about to go down hard.

HEIL ADOLPH BIDEN!

(09-02-2022 07:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  It's probably closer to 35-40% then a strict half. 28% is a joke, tho. Go back to Reddit. The remaining % wouldn't be all Biden/D supporters, btw.

The voting age population in 2020 was 257 Million people. Trump got 74 million votes. Math is math.

(09-02-2022 08:36 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 07:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  It's probably closer to 35-40% then a strict half. 28% is a joke, tho. Go back to Reddit. The remaining % wouldn't be all Biden/D supporters, btw.

The voting age population in 2020 was 257 Million people. Trump got 74 million votes. Math is math.

We hear you loud and clear, its totally fine for the POTUS to call essentially half the voters terrorist, fascists and enemies of the state.

And since we are terrorists and enemies of the state we no longer have to be granted our rights and protections under the constitution at any future point your progressive leaders decide so.

We hear you and Biden loud and clear.

LOL, anyone who tries to say that Brandon's speech was great and that the country is healing from political divides due to it are morons. The content of the speech was extremely partisan and divisive. No mentions of inflation, the economy, Ukraine, China, Russia, Afghanistan, instability in the ME, etc, etc was very noticeable. Making a prime time "presidential speech" that was meant to demonize and dehumanize one specific individual and segments of the population was no different than Hitler blaming the Jews for all of the problems that plagued Germany from the end of WW1 thru the 30s. True to form of channeling his inner Hitler, the optics reinforced the points made in his speech.

Complete ignorance on your part if you can't see the parallels between calling out "MAGA Republicans" as the bane of America and calling out the Jews as the bane of post WW1 Germany.

(09-02-2022 12:08 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Someone remembered this morning that he pissed off 95% of 2A supporters and they ain't worried about F-15s.. There's no one to pilot them, they're too busy learning about genders, pronouns, and what is to be a toxic white male.

In a war that's exactly right. You don't go after the aircraft like many in war do. You go after the pilot. It takes years and years of training and flying to become a good pilot. That's exactly the reason for the downfall of Germany and Japan, and that's with rudimentary airplanes. They lost so many pilots during the war that newbies were inducted and were shot down almost immediately. I'm not saying that the pilots would be inclined to kill fellow Americans but heck neither did anyone think that during the civil war.

I just pray that we don't get into that situation. It's like an atomic war with other nations, NO ONE WINS.

We need to do it in the voting places and pray that there isn't any cheating by the Demons.

"You do realize that Dems do the exact same thing in many other states, right?

It's mind-numbing to think you actually believe what you type. Dems control the WH, Senate, House, FBI, DOJ, CDC, FDA, IRS, and almost every other goverment agency, along with NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, WaPo, NYT, Google, every single prominent social media platform, Hollywood, and most of corporate America, yet you rail against Republicans saying they cause so much damage to our nation.

I mean, the lack of self-awareness is beyond comprehension."

He knows, all he's doing is aping Jean Pierre in defending a undefendable POS. He's a paid operative because if he isn't then he's really a dumb S. No excuse for stupid people like that and no arguing will change their minds. It's like debating a drunk or an idiot and you'll get the same response.

(09-02-2022 08:39 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 08:36 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 07:49 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  It's probably closer to 35-40% then a strict half. 28% is a joke, tho. Go back to Reddit. The remaining % wouldn't be all Biden/D supporters, btw.

The voting age population in 2020 was 257 Million people. Trump got 74 million votes. Math is math.

We hear you loud and clear, its totally fine for the POTUS to call essentially half the voters terrorist, fascists and enemies of the state.

And since we are terrorists and enemies of the state we no longer have to be granted our rights and protections under the constitution at any future point your progressive leaders decide so.

We hear you and Biden loud and clear.

CPAC : We are all domestic terrorists!

Rest of the country: Treats them like domestic terrorists

Conservatives :

(09-02-2022 09:43 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  "You do realize that Dems do the exact same thing in many other states, right?

It's mind-numbing to think you actually believe what you type. Dems control the WH, Senate, House, FBI, DOJ, CDC, FDA, IRS, and almost every other goverment agency, along with NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, WaPo, NYT, Google, every single prominent social media platform, Hollywood, and most of corporate America, yet you rail against Republicans saying they cause so much damage to our nation.

I mean, the lack of self-awareness is beyond comprehension."

He knows, all he's doing is aping Jean Pierre in defending a undefendable POS. He's a paid operative because if he isn't then he's really a dumb S. No excuse for stupid people like that and no arguing will change their minds. It's like debating a drunk or an idiot and you'll get the same response.

So answer the question I asked in response to that post. Post the examples.

Child like retorts aren't going to sugar coat that Hitler like speech Brandon gave.

But it says it all that you are fine with the POTUS labeling half the voters terrorists and enemies of the state.

You will never again have the moral high ground on calling out dangerous or destructive rhetoric. You have no forfeited it forever.

(09-02-2022 08:00 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 07:31 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 06:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 05:40 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 04:49 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Since you want to play games because the only people that actually count are those voting age Americans. But I will play your game and ask you a question....

Since Biden is polling in the 38% range on "voting age Americans" population?

That's like saying only 26% of Americans agree with Biden

26% of Americans of any age is still more than voted for trump. You are looking at only 21% of the total US population. I will admit I underestimated the 25 when it was actually 28% of VAP.

All thread you guys keep claiming Biden is alienating half of Americans, I’m just pointing out that is way an overestimate as his speech didn’t even target all of republicans, only the subset who endorse attacking the fabric of democracy for their orange idol.

Because he is alienating close to half of America. You think no indpendents voted for Trump or preferred how the nation functioned under Trump? Hell, a lot of working man union members who are registered Democrats were MAGA voters. You keep acting like what Biden did last night was normal. It wasnt. It was the single more divisive and dark speech Ive ever seen from a US president. I remember the press going nuts over the "dark and divisive" Trump inauguration speech---but that speech was "Morning in America" compared to that absolutely unhinged attack on a huge segment of US citizens I witnessed last night from Biden.

Is 28% of the Voting Age Population half of America?

You greatly overestimate the number of MAGA nutters because of low voter turnout and especially low Primary turnout which has not sides having to play to vocal minorities around the primaries.

You quibble over pointless percentages because you want to justify the POTUS using the darkest possible language and attacks on 75 million Americans.

There is literally no further extremist level he can take the rhetoric to. Once you label half the voters as fascists, terrorists, and enemies of the state there is no going back or pushing it further. No POTUS in the history of the republic has ever attacked half the voters like this. NEVER.

250 years this nation has stood and no POTUS has ever made such attacks and used such extremist language against those who voted against him.

And if he and people like you actually believe those things are true you are flat out telling us we do not deserve to be treated as fellow citizens or have the rights granted to us in the constitution because we are fascists and enemies of the state. Once you put those words and accusations out there and treat them as fact, there is no action you can take against us in the future that needs to be justified, be it a purge or out right round up of dissenting voters and imprisonment or eliminating them.

That is the obvious reality and end game of this type of rhetoric. If we are fascists, terrorists and enemies of the state then we do not deserve the constitutional rights and protections it grants us.

And you are making it totally clear that is your position and you are proud of it.

In 250 years no lame duck POTUS has ever attacked the fabric of our democracy by trying to overturn the election.

If Pence had caved and not accepted the electors from GA, PA, and WI do you feel that it would have been the correct and ethical course of action supported by the constitution?

If your answer to that question is yes then you are a fascist who supports destroying the fabric of our democracy and installing a non elected leader against the will of the people.

If no Biden might not be talking to you.

He made it clear that there is a difference between normal republicans and the extremists who supported overturning the election.

(09-02-2022 09:58 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  In 250 years no lame duck POTUS has ever attacked the fabric of our democracy by trying to overturn the election.

If Pence had caved and not accepted the electors from GA, PA, and WI do you feel that it would have been the correct and ethical course of action supported by the constitution?

If your answer to that question is yes then you are a fascist who supports destroying the fabric of our democracy and installing a non elected leader against the will of the people.

If no Biden might not be talking to you.

He made it clear that there is a difference between normal republicans and the extremists who supported overturning the election.

You have to GALL to talk about ethics after last night?

You can scream Orange man bad for 10 million years, it will NEVER justify that Hitler like speech by Brandon last night.

Joe Biden is POTUS, not Trump. Joe Biden labeled half the voters as terrorist and enemies of the state. Its Joe Biden that is threatening half the voters with F-16 attacks.

Its Joe Biden that is clearly laying the groundwork to turn the government on half the voters and strip them of their constitutional rights.

Your whole argument is Orange man bad, so Biden can go full Hitler on half the voters in the country and its justified.

NO, ITS NOT.

And as Miko said your an idiot if you think it is.

I never justified anything Trump did, YOU are clearly justifying what Biden said last night, YOU are justifying him labeling half the voters as terrorists and fascists.

Its a new level of ignorance and scumbaggery even for the likes of you.

You are ethically, intellectually and morally defunct.

(09-02-2022 10:13 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I never justified anything Trump did, YOU are clearly justifying what Biden said last night, YOU are justifying him labeling half the voters as terrorists and fascists.

Its a new level of ignorance and scumbaggery even for the likes of you.

You are ethically, intellectually and morally defunct.

So post the quote from the Biden speech that personally attacks you.

If you didn’t justify anything trump did then you would fall into the category of :

“ Now, I want to be very clear, very clear up front. Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology. I know, because I’ve been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.”

If you don’t agree with trumps attempts to overthrow the election (you never justified anything trump did) then help take the Republican Party back for sane republicans by finding a non crazy Republican candidate and vote for them in primaries. Be a part of the solution.

(09-02-2022 11:05 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:13 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I never justified anything Trump did, YOU are clearly justifying what Biden said last night, YOU are justifying him labeling half the voters as terrorists and fascists.

Its a new level of ignorance and scumbaggery even for the likes of you.

You are ethically, intellectually and morally defunct.

So post the quote from the Biden speech that personally attacks you.

If you didn’t justify anything trump did then you would fall into the category of :

“ Now, I want to be very clear, very clear up front. Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology. I know, because I’ve been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.”

If you don’t agree with trumps attempts to overthrow the election (you never justified anything trump did) then help take the Republican Party back for sane republicans by finding a non crazy Republican candidate and vote for them in primaries. Be a part of the solution.

75 million people voted for MAGA Trump in 2020 and I was one of them.

Here you are justifying him labeling 75 million people as terrorists and fascist.

You have no moral high ground and never will again.

(09-02-2022 11:14 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 11:05 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(09-02-2022 10:13 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I never justified anything Trump did, YOU are clearly justifying what Biden said last night, YOU are justifying him labeling half the voters as terrorists and fascists.

Its a new level of ignorance and scumbaggery even for the likes of you.

You are ethically, intellectually and morally defunct.

So post the quote from the Biden speech that personally attacks you.

If you didn’t justify anything trump did then you would fall into the category of :

“ Now, I want to be very clear, very clear up front. Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology. I know, because I’ve been able to work with these mainstream Republicans.”

If you don’t agree with trumps attempts to overthrow the election (you never justified anything trump did) then help take the Republican Party back for sane republicans by finding a non crazy Republican candidate and vote for them in primaries. Be a part of the solution.

75 million people voted for MAGA Trump in 2020 and I was one of them.

Here you are justifying him labeling 75 million people as terrorists and fascist.

You have no moral high ground and never will again.

Elvis, I just can't thank you enough for showing us who you really are.

Biden goes full Hitler on half the electorate and you go into an orgasmic state over it. Its never been more clear who the real fascists in America are.

You are who we thought you were.

Talk about showing your true colors, WOW.