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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:26 PM)mlb Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:23 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: If that was true and I doubt it’s that simple, They gave Trump a golden ticket as now he can campaign with snippets videos of the FBI abusing its powers by going through Melania’s drawers and breaking into his safe
I'm not sure that would matter... he could have had the documents stored away anywhere, including personal closets. He clearly had documents he should not have had.
Well he didn’t store them in her personal closet. That matters
GAO boxed these up and sent them, not him or his political staff personally involved. That matters
Secret Service secure his private residence. That matters
If documents are Russiagate related then he declassified them as he’s the declassifier-in-chief. That matters
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:26 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Despite the redaction, the intro tells us it is a weak case based just on records issues. We already know (1) he had the power to declassify, (2) other presidents took much more, and (3) the general record keeping laws do not apply to the president, a different presidential records law does. It is plainly another pretext to get Trump at all costs
Its going to be hard to prove he committed any crimes when previous presidents have set a precedent. Another nothing burger.
Exactly.
Actually this raid sets a precedent.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote: Did anyone find the description of the FIFTEEN BOXES strange? Sounds like they (Trumps representation) sent boxes full of random stuff with unorganized confidential material scattered through it
They knew they were there. Remember, they told them to get a better lock. If they were so important, why didn't they take them then? End of story.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:26 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Despite the redaction, the intro tells us it is a weak case based just on records issues. We already know (1) he had the power to declassify, (2) other presidents took much more, and (3) the general record keeping laws do not apply to the president, a different presidential records law does. It is plainly another pretext to get Trump at all costs
Its going to be hard to prove he committed any crimes when previous presidents have set a precedent. Another nothing burger.
Exactly.
Nah because at the end of the day no other President was dumb enough to do the things that Trump did to make the DOJ go after them.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:58 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:26 PM)mlb Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:23 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: If that was true and I doubt it’s that simple, They gave Trump a golden ticket as now he can campaign with snippets videos of the FBI abusing its powers by going through Melania’s drawers and breaking into his safe
I'm not sure that would matter... he could have had the documents stored away anywhere, including personal closets. He clearly had documents he should not have had.
Well he didn’t store them in her personal closet. That matters
GAO boxed these up and sent them, not him or his political staff personally involved. That matters
Secret Service secure his private residence. That matters
If documents are Russiagate related then he declassified them as he’s the declassifier-in-chief. That matters
Thus. Mar A Lago is exponentially more s3cure than the Natiinal Archives. The N A is open for public viewing. Ask Sandy Berger. They wanted the docs Trump had that makes the DOJ and FBI is corrupt. Pretty simple.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:59 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:26 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Despite the redaction, the intro tells us it is a weak case based just on records issues. We already know (1) he had the power to declassify, (2) other presidents took much more, and (3) the general record keeping laws do not apply to the president, a different presidential records law does. It is plainly another pretext to get Trump at all costs
Its going to be hard to prove he committed any crimes when previous presidents have set a precedent. Another nothing burger.
Exactly.
Nah because at the end of the day no other President was dumb enough to do the things that Trump did to make the DOJ go after them.
how can you even type that with the complete pedo retard in the whitehouse now and his thoroughly degenerate family..
my god you cant be this dumb.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
Just checking to see all the damning evidence that was stated in the affidavit. Juicy Soap Opera music playing in the background.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:22 PM)Kruciff Wrote: Did anyone find the description of the FIFTEEN BOXES strange? Sounds like they (Trumps representation) sent boxes full of random stuff with unorganized confidential material scattered through it
Truly diabolical...right?
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:59 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:26 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Despite the redaction, the intro tells us it is a weak case based just on records issues. We already know (1) he had the power to declassify, (2) other presidents took much more, and (3) the general record keeping laws do not apply to the president, a different presidential records law does. It is plainly another pretext to get Trump at all costs
Its going to be hard to prove he committed any crimes when previous presidents have set a precedent. Another nothing burger.
Exactly.
Nah because at the end of the day no other President was dumb enough to do the things that Trump did to make the DOJ go after them.
If you belive this...then you might as well cash it in, no hope for you.
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Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
I'm guessing at the end of the day, he probably mishandled documents like Hilary. Enough for me to get in trouble, but not enough for the elite
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:59 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:27 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:26 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Despite the redaction, the intro tells us it is a weak case based just on records issues. We already know (1) he had the power to declassify, (2) other presidents took much more, and (3) the general record keeping laws do not apply to the president, a different presidential records law does. It is plainly another pretext to get Trump at all costs
Its going to be hard to prove he committed any crimes when previous presidents have set a precedent. Another nothing burger.
Exactly.
Nah because at the end of the day no other President was dumb enough to do the things that Trump did to make the DOJ go after them.
More like no president has ever weaponized the DOJ like the Obama/Biden administration. Why do you think Biden believes weaponizing the DOJ is ok? Because that is what he was taught by Obama---who was a product of the corrupt Chicago Political Machine. This will not end well for our nation. Its far far far worse than Watergate. This takes Nixonian politics to a Stalin-like level....but of course the left wing kooks dont care because they think the Biden secret police are only after their enemies (and thats true---for now).
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 01:17 PM)fsquid Wrote: I'm guessing at the end of the day, he probably mishandled documents like Hilary. Enough for me to get in trouble, but not enough for the elite
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:03 PM)mlb Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Basically, that makes it sound like they just "figured" there might be more docs in other parts of the home....but really didnt have any evidence of it---but I guess we will see as more of the document is parsed.
Andrew McCarthy on Fox News theorized that they just wanted to get their documents back because they didn't believe all of them had been returned, but they don't necessarily want to press charges against Trump or anyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case.
Then why the hell did it take 30 armed agents to retrieve them before sunrise when Trump wasn't there, and they requested no one be present and no cameras?
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 01:19 PM)TripleA Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:03 PM)mlb Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Basically, that makes it sound like they just "figured" there might be more docs in other parts of the home....but really didnt have any evidence of it---but I guess we will see as more of the document is parsed.
Andrew McCarthy on Fox News theorized that they just wanted to get their documents back because they didn't believe all of them had been returned, but they don't necessarily want to press charges against Trump or anyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case.
Then why the hell did it take 30 armed agents to retrieve them before sunrise when Trump wasn't there, and they requested no one be present and no cameras, 18 months after they started asking?
Because Trump pissed on the subpoena multiple times, and lied through the letter his attorney attested that no documents existed.
That tends to get a search rolled up on you in that fashion.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 01:17 PM)fsquid Wrote: I'm guessing at the end of the day, he probably mishandled documents like Hilary. Enough for me to get in trouble, but not enough for the elite
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He was President and a declassifier. She wasn’t and can’t
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 12:26 PM)mlb Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:23 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: If that was true and I doubt it’s that simple, They gave Trump a golden ticket as now he can campaign with snippets videos of the FBI abusing its powers by going through Melania’s drawers and breaking into his safe
I'm not sure that would matter... he could have had the documents stored away anywhere, including personal closets. He clearly had documents he should not have had.
That is NOT CLEAR AT ALL. He was President. What he should and shouldn't have WAS HIS DECISION.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 01:25 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote: (08-26-2022 01:17 PM)fsquid Wrote: I'm guessing at the end of the day, he probably mishandled documents like Hilary. Enough for me to get in trouble, but not enough for the elite
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He was President and a declassifier. She wasn’t and can’t
Well if he's declassifying SCIF documents, that's another issue.
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 01:19 PM)TripleA Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:03 PM)mlb Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Basically, that makes it sound like they just "figured" there might be more docs in other parts of the home....but really didnt have any evidence of it---but I guess we will see as more of the document is parsed.
Andrew McCarthy on Fox News theorized that they just wanted to get their documents back because they didn't believe all of them had been returned, but they don't necessarily want to press charges against Trump or anyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case.
Then why the hell did it take 30 armed agents to retrieve them before sunrise when Trump wasn't there, and they requested no one be present and no cameras?
Banana republic political persecution
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RE: Judge Orders Affidavit Unsealed
(08-26-2022 01:22 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: (08-26-2022 01:19 PM)TripleA Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:03 PM)mlb Wrote: (08-26-2022 12:00 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: Basically, that makes it sound like they just "figured" there might be more docs in other parts of the home....but really didnt have any evidence of it---but I guess we will see as more of the document is parsed.
Andrew McCarthy on Fox News theorized that they just wanted to get their documents back because they didn't believe all of them had been returned, but they don't necessarily want to press charges against Trump or anyone else. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the case.
Then why the hell did it take 30 armed agents to retrieve them before sunrise when Trump wasn't there, and they requested no one be present and no cameras, 18 months after they started asking?
Because Trump pissed on the subpoena multiple times, and lied through the letter his attorney attested that no documents existed.
That tends to get a search rolled up on you in that fashion.
If you really believe that, then you probably believed Russia Russia Russia, too.
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