Plant based "meats" are LOADED with chemicals and a boatload of salt.

To say that eating this type of product is healthier for you, is completely ignorant.

(08-08-2022 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Plant based "meats" are LOADED with chemicals and a boatload of salt.

To say that eating this type of product is healthier for you, is completely ignorant.

Depends on plant based foods, I guess. Impossible/beyond meats are, as you say, loaded with salts and processed pea protein, so it also has nitrites in it.

Soy based patties arent disguised as meat and have less crappy junk in them. Seitan, Tempeh, and Soy patties are quite a bit healthier than beyond/impossible/real

(08-08-2022 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Plant based "meats" are LOADED with chemicals and a boatload of salt.

To say that eating this type of product is healthier for you, is completely ignorant.

Yep, even replicating the color/tastes of meat involves genetically modifying certain proteins. So, basically any plant based meat is a GMO based product.

GMOs aren't necessarily bad for you either.

(08-08-2022 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Plant based "meats" are LOADED with chemicals and a boatload of salt.

To say that eating this type of product is healthier for you, is completely ignorant.

Depends on plant based foods, I guess. Impossible/beyond meats are, as you say, loaded with salts and processed pea protein, so it also has nitrites in it.

Soy based patties arent disguised as meat and have less crappy junk in them. Seitan, Tempeh, and Soy patties are quite a bit healthier than beyond/impossible/real

Exactly, but nobody is pushing those, they're pushing the impossible meats. I was curious and was going to get some one day and try out, when I saw the laundry list of ingredients I decided to just pick up a pack of hamburger meat and make my own.

(08-08-2022 01:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 12:21 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 12:18 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 11:25 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 10:47 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I want to add something here because it seems a lot of people are missing the point. This is certainly about climate change and damage to our environment.... but there is an extra piece which I neglected to add. This is about *Species Privilege.* Taking inappropriate and immoral advantage of other animals ...because of our privileged position. An unearned privilege position which wouldn't be there but for a fortuitous asteroid. So we factory farm animals ignoring their ability to feel pain and suffer .... or at best downplay it. Treating other sentient beings the way we do is reflection on ourselves. We are not .... none of us no matter how hard we try are privileged enough to ignore that.

You act like this is about climate change..
...

Not just climate change but morality. A willingness to do the right thing without personal benefit or even with a personal cost. It's an aspiration, a goal. The goal of preventing human behavior that causes harm. In short it's a secularized version of the Golden Rule. There I made it easy:-)

You're just trolling.

no shite …

I guarantee he's not trolling. This is what he believes.

(08-08-2022 01:50 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  GMOs aren't necessarily bad for you either.

I tend to agree, but I'd bet lots of money that there are lots of people that are anti GMO that are pro plant based meats. It's simply a lack of awareness, IMO.

(08-08-2022 02:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Plant based "meats" are LOADED with chemicals and a boatload of salt.

To say that eating this type of product is healthier for you, is completely ignorant.

Depends on plant based foods, I guess. Impossible/beyond meats are, as you say, loaded with salts and processed pea protein, so it also has nitrites in it.

Soy based patties arent disguised as meat and have less crappy junk in them. Seitan, Tempeh, and Soy patties are quite a bit healthier than beyond/impossible/real

Exactly, but nobody is pushing those, they're pushing the impossible meats. I was curious and was going to get some one day and try out, when I saw the laundry list of ingredients I decided to just pick up a pack of hamburger meat and make my own.

let’s not forget how genes vs. intake comes into play … sell me that ‘impossible map’

jfc, I can remember when eggs and cheese muh butter and and and were taboo…

why are moist folk fat fks today??!!!???!!!

I live in dumbfk-land…

@wtfe

(08-08-2022 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Plant based "meats" are LOADED with chemicals and a boatload of salt.

To say that eating this type of product is healthier for you, is completely ignorant.

Depends on plant based foods, I guess. Impossible/beyond meats are, as you say, loaded with salts and processed pea protein, so it also has nitrites in it.

Soy based patties arent disguised as meat and have less crappy junk in them. Seitan, Tempeh, and Soy patties are quite a bit healthier than beyond/impossible/real

There is some truth to this. There are some (very pricey) products that aren't as bad for you.

The majority of these types of products offered by chain restaurants are straight garbage.

My wife is a pescetarian so I have tried, or eaten, my far share of vegetarian foods. So I wanted to share a pic of our soysage in the freezer.






Not a lot of words I don't recognize. Methylcellulose is one I had to look up, but the rest are in boatloads of foods. Not health food, for sure and we've had that packet for months, since she doesn't really like meat knock-offs, but... They aren't that bad tasting, from the one I had.

I'd rather have livermush, personally than sausage (real or fake).


Now, the Fakeon (Fake bacon) in the freezer has a chemistry set in it.

Crap those pics compressed like a sombitch during upload

List of ingredients

Water, wheat gluten, soy protein concentrate, sugar, vegetable oil (corn, canola and/or sunflower), soy flour, soy protein isolate.Contains 2% or less of maltodextrin, methylcellulose, yeast extract, salt, fruit juice for color, natural flavors, spices, potato starch, konjac flour, molasses, onion powder, soy sauce (water, soybeans, salt, wheat), invert sugar.

(08-08-2022 03:17 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  My wife is a pescetarian so I have tried, or eaten, my far share of vegetarian foods. So I wanted to share a pic of our soysage in the freezer.






Not a lot of words I don't recognize. Methylcellulose is one I had to look up, but the rest are in boatloads of foods. Not health food, for sure and we've had that packet for months, since she doesn't really like meat knock-offs, but... They aren't that bad tasting, from the one I had.

I'd rather have livermush, personally than sausage (real or fake).


Now, the Fakeon (Fake bacon) in the freezer has a chemistry set in it.

I had to read your post three times ... it's 'real - not fake'

I even had to look up the "P" word ... oh muh...

on the bright side, it ain' mickey D's....

(08-08-2022 02:24 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 02:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Plant based "meats" are LOADED with chemicals and a boatload of salt.

To say that eating this type of product is healthier for you, is completely ignorant.

Depends on plant based foods, I guess. Impossible/beyond meats are, as you say, loaded with salts and processed pea protein, so it also has nitrites in it.

Soy based patties arent disguised as meat and have less crappy junk in them. Seitan, Tempeh, and Soy patties are quite a bit healthier than beyond/impossible/real

Exactly, but nobody is pushing those, they're pushing the impossible meats. I was curious and was going to get some one day and try out, when I saw the laundry list of ingredients I decided to just pick up a pack of hamburger meat and make my own.

let’s not forget how genes vs. intake comes into play … sell me that ‘impossible map’

jfc, I can remember when eggs and cheese muh butter and and and were taboo…

why are moist folk fat fks today??!!!???!!!

I live in dumbfk-land…

@wtfe

I dont give 2 shites if people eat soy perculated **** as long as they dont try to make me eat it.

Sonebody fixin to get a solid arse whippin. They have ventured into berserker land

(08-08-2022 03:21 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  List of ingredients

Water, wheat gluten, soy protein concentrate, sugar, vegetable oil (corn, canola and/or sunflower), soy flour, soy protein isolate.Contains 2% or less of maltodextrin, methylcellulose, yeast extract, salt, fruit juice for color, natural flavors, spices, potato starch, konjac flour, molasses, onion powder, soy sauce (water, soybeans, salt, wheat), invert sugar.

Anybody telling someone this is healthier is straight up lying. Mixed Seed oils, sugars (maltodextrin) yeast extract (MSG), methylcellulose (thickening agent that can cause bowl problems [stoppage] and stomach cramps) off the top of my head are some of the worst combination in a food item

(08-08-2022 05:48 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 02:24 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 02:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:47 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 01:42 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Plant based "meats" are LOADED with chemicals and a boatload of salt.

To say that eating this type of product is healthier for you, is completely ignorant.

Depends on plant based foods, I guess. Impossible/beyond meats are, as you say, loaded with salts and processed pea protein, so it also has nitrites in it.

Soy based patties arent disguised as meat and have less crappy junk in them. Seitan, Tempeh, and Soy patties are quite a bit healthier than beyond/impossible/real

Exactly, but nobody is pushing those, they're pushing the impossible meats. I was curious and was going to get some one day and try out, when I saw the laundry list of ingredients I decided to just pick up a pack of hamburger meat and make my own.

let’s not forget how genes vs. intake comes into play … sell me that ‘impossible map’

jfc, I can remember when eggs and cheese muh butter and and and were taboo…

why are moist folk fat fks today??!!!???!!!

I live in dumbfk-land…

@wtfe

I dont give 2 shites if people eat soy perculated **** as long as they dont try to make me eat it.

Sonebody fixin to get a solid arse whippin. They have ventured into berserker land

I must rooskie yo' arse on this one ...

(08-08-2022 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 12:21 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 12:18 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 11:25 AM)gdunn Wrote:  You act like this is about climate change..
...

Not just climate change but morality. A willingness to do the right thing without personal benefit or even with a personal cost. It's an aspiration, a goal. The goal of preventing human behavior that causes harm. In short it's a secularized version of the Golden Rule. There I made it easy:-)

You're just trolling.

I guarantee he's not trolling. This is what he believes.

Do you know me? I don't give my board name out at tiger Lane so I don't think so. There's an octogenarian here who claims to be an Alpha male with Superior genetics and who likely wants to fight me. I don't need an elder abuse charge. So no I don't give out my real name. And while I'm thinking about it there was a grossly overweight redneck on the tiger board who wants to fight me. In fact he posted a picture of himself together with the challenge. I suppose his mountain of conservative fat was supposed to intimidate me. So no you don't know who I am. It was just a guess. A lucky one.

(08-08-2022 09:11 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 12:21 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 12:18 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 11:25 AM)gdunn Wrote:  You act like this is about climate change..
...

Not just climate change but morality. A willingness to do the right thing without personal benefit or even with a personal cost. It's an aspiration, a goal. The goal of preventing human behavior that causes harm. In short it's a secularized version of the Golden Rule. There I made it easy:-)

You're just trolling.

I guarantee he's not trolling. This is what he believes.

Do you know me? I don't give my board name out at tiger Lane so I don't think so. There's an octogenarian here who claims to be an Alpha male with Superior genetics and who likely wants to fight me. I don't need an elder abuse charge. So no I don't give out my real name. And while I'm thinking about it there was a grossly overweight redneck on the tiger board who wants to fight me. In fact he posted a picture of himself together with the challenge. I suppose his mountain of conservative fat was supposed to intimidate me. So no you don't know who I am. It was just a guess. A lucky one.

Bwahahahahaha

So youre scared

It will be ok sugar dumpling.

(08-08-2022 09:11 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 02:23 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 12:21 PM)appst89 Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 12:18 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(08-08-2022 11:25 AM)gdunn Wrote:  You act like this is about climate change..
...

Not just climate change but morality. A willingness to do the right thing without personal benefit or even with a personal cost. It's an aspiration, a goal. The goal of preventing human behavior that causes harm. In short it's a secularized version of the Golden Rule. There I made it easy:-)

You're just trolling.

I guarantee he's not trolling. This is what he believes.

Do you know me? I don't give my board name out at tiger Lane so I don't think so. There's an octogenarian here who claims to be an Alpha male with Superior genetics and who likely wants to fight me. I don't need an elder abuse charge. So no I don't give out my real name. And while I'm thinking about it there was a grossly overweight redneck on the tiger board who wants to fight me. In fact he posted a picture of himself together with the challenge. I suppose his mountain of conservative fat was supposed to intimidate me. So no you don't know who I am. It was just a guess. A lucky one.

Dude, you really are clueless. It's obvious you believe that stuff by the arrogant way you talk about it, the phrases you use, the name-calling, the obvious disdain for opinions that contradict your own, etc.

I don't have to know you to understand that. And I don't have to make a lucky guess. It's called reading comprehension 101.

Why you said all that other silly BS is beyond me, b/c it has zero to do with me. And I don't give a rat's ass about knowing who you are. In fact, I would absolutely prefer not to know.

In fact, I'm sad you're a Tiger fan, based on the way you treat people online.

(08-08-2022 12:18 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Not just climate change but morality. A willingness to do the right thing without personal benefit or even with a personal cost. It's an aspiration, a goal. The goal of preventing human behavior that causes harm. In short it's a secularized version of the Golden Rule. There I made it easy:-)

But that assumes that it is the right thing. You are sanctimoniously attempting to seize the moral high ground unilaterally, without justifying the moral superiority that you are claiming.