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Big-12 sportswriter blasts Dennis Dodd for ‘There’s Not Much That’s Hip, Young and Cool About an Iowa State-Cincinnati Game’ comment.

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2...nati-game/

Most of these guys are tools that write an article and don't offer anything new to the subject. I know they're paid to write, but they're lazy if they can't provide anything new.

I know around our house there's Christmas, new years and the USC-Oregon State game.

(07-18-2022 06:11 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I know around our house there's Christmas, new years and the USC-Oregon State game.

At our house it will be the Rutgers-USC, and the Northwestern-UCLA matchups.

(07-18-2022 06:11 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I know around our house there's Christmas, new years and the USC-Oregon State game.

A thoughtful and fact based response to Dodd's sarcasm from Heartland. With, or without some Pac 12 additions, this will be a fine football conference with coaches Campbell, Fickell and more. Guaranteed NY6 access, other high tier bowls, and prime TV slots will provide the platform UC football has earned (and deserves).

We already know the Big 12 is the nation's best basketball conference with B2B national titles from two different member schools. No more condescending comments needed about UC in the American from the folks on Victory Parkway I guess? They should be worried that the new Big East likely lost its bell cow when Jay Wright stepped down at Villanova--the only program that has produced any championships since formation of the conference.

Not hip? UC just had a dude named Sauce go #4 overall in the draft. Look, living here in our region we all have been subjected to those noon games between Iowa-Purdue (sorry Captain Bearcat), Illinois-Minnesota, Indiana-Wisconsin, that make you fall asleep. The product that UC has always put out is edgy and hip. Heck, even some d-bag OSU fans I know admit that (they are all about the "tradition" though). UC was having black outs and playing night games before it was cool. Our basketball players lifted weights and wore baggy shorts long before everyone else. We have always been hip and cool!

surprised he said sissanatuh. if he would have said houston or ucf or byu, or any of the big 12, but us? we're the darlings

Since the resurgence of the football program, UC has been able to take the worst circumstances and make it 10 times better. Most programs suffer with Thursday or Friday night games. UC has excelled with those time slots and have some of their best games attendance wise. Most lifelong fans will say they hate those time slots, but you have to admit that the University has excelled in making Cincinnati the exception and not the rule when it comes to those games.

(07-18-2022 08:42 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Not hip? UC just had a dude named Sauce go #4 overall in the draft. Look, living here in our region we all have been subjected to those noon games between Iowa-Purdue (sorry Captain Bearcat), Illinois-Minnesota, Indiana-Wisconsin, that make you fall asleep. The product that UC has always put out is edgy and hip. Heck, even some d-bag OSU fans I know admit that (they are all about the "tradition" though). UC was having black outs and playing night games before it was cool. Our basketball players lifted weights and wore baggy shorts long before everyone else. We have always been hip and cool!

No offense taken, sir.

I no longer know what make things "hip." But I'm pretty sure that a 65 year-old legacy journalist who is still using the word "hip" doesn't know either.

(07-18-2022 08:42 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Not hip? UC just had a dude named Sauce go #4 overall in the draft. Look, living here in our region we all have been subjected to those noon games between Iowa-Purdue (sorry Captain Bearcat), Illinois-Minnesota, Indiana-Wisconsin, that make you fall asleep. The product that UC has always put out is edgy and hip. Heck, even some d-bag OSU fans I know admit that (they are all about the "tradition" though). UC was having black outs and playing night games before it was cool. Our basketball players lifted weights and wore baggy shorts long before everyone else. We have always been hip and cool!

I kinda felt UC was somewhat hip with its magical, breakthrough year. All I know is I have zero interest in watching the B10 or SEC. They become more and more boring as the years pass.

My guess is Dodds consider the city of Cincinnati to be this boring, rust bucket town; not a hip place like Portland, Seattle or LA. The thing is CFB is driven by viewers out of places like Tuscaloosa, AL; State College, PA; Bryan, TX; Norman, OK; not the so-called hip cities listed above.

(07-18-2022 11:48 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  My guess is Dodds consider the city of Cincinnati to be this boring, rust bucket town; not a hip place like Portland, Seattle or LA. The thing is CFB is driven by viewers out of places like Tuscaloosa, AL; State College, PA; Bryan, TX; Norman, OK; not the so-called hip cities listed above.

Yes, all this and on the other side of the coin from Cincinnati, both Iowa and Iowa State have excellent football fans with great passion for the game. I think Dodd was trying to be glib and arbitrarily picked ISU and Cincy. We know the Cyclones will fill their 61,000 seats for UC. And Nippert will be SRO when ISU visits. We have much to look forward to, even if we're not "hip" or "cool" by Dodd's standards.

(07-18-2022 11:48 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  My guess is Dodds consider the city of Cincinnati to be this boring, rust bucket town; not a hip place like Portland, Seattle or LA. The thing is CFB is driven by viewers out of places like Tuscaloosa, AL; State College, PA; Bryan, TX; Norman, OK; not the so-called hip cities listed above.

Yep.

It's funny. He's talking about what was attractive to youth culture 20-40 years ago.

I teach college students, and when they talk about Portland or San Francisco, it's always in a negative light. My students nowadays talk about wanting to move to Nashville, Austin, or Dallas. Followed by Denver, Orlando, or a beach town in Florida. West Coast never makes the list.

(07-18-2022 12:05 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 11:48 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  My guess is Dodds consider the city of Cincinnati to be this boring, rust bucket town; not a hip place like Portland, Seattle or LA. The thing is CFB is driven by viewers out of places like Tuscaloosa, AL; State College, PA; Bryan, TX; Norman, OK; not the so-called hip cities listed above.

Yep.

It's funny. He's talking about what was attractive to youth culture 20-40 years ago.

I teach college students, and when they talk about Portland or San Francisco, it's always in a negative light. My students nowadays talk about wanting to move to Nashville, Austin, or Dallas. Followed by Denver, Orlando, or a beach town in Florida. West Coast never makes the list.

The rents in Portland and San Francisco are crazy. Nashville, Austin and Dallas are all young and hip now but are rapidly becoming outpaced too. Asheville, NC will become another hot young place until its too expensive there. And so it goes.

My recollection of Dennis Dodds' history is:

1) He is a snob. He thinks that "certain" schools "belong" at the highest level of college football and others do NOT. And his opinion is not about objective performance or even "hip" status of the town or city...he seems to want "College Football" to be as it was in the 1970's and 80's, where Conferences like the Big Ten, SEC, and the Pac 8 and the Big 8 and, to a lesser extent the SWC ruled the roost and other programs were only seen when one of those Conferences were beating up on them. That narrative began to come undone when the Big East Football Conference began to muck things up with programs like Virginia Tech and Boston College and Miami (FL) started to upset the "natural order" of things.

So, yeah, Dodds is consistently against UC; in his "world" UC ought to drop football and quit messing up the Conferences he loves.

2) He is an SEC shill. Notice, he doesn't single out "Missouri and Vanderbilt" or "Texas A&M and South Carolina" as games nobody really cares about. He works for CBS, which (for the time being) owns the SEC contract. If/when CBS were to acquire the Big XII rights, he'll either (a) move on, or (b) change his tune quickly. But until that time...yeah...Dodds is gonna be Dodds.

3) He has some of the WORST predictions and calls in this whole realignment saga. Seriously. He's been consistently wrong and/or behind the curve the whole time. If he were a weatherman on TV, he'd be calling for "Blizzard Conditions" in the Tri-State area tomorrow. So take his view with a grain of salt.

4) He is a tool.

No reason to worry about this....Read Derek Duke of Heartland Sports....He shoved a big one right up Dodd's backside....

(07-18-2022 11:48 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  My guess is Dodds consider the city of Cincinnati to be this boring, rust bucket town; not a hip place like Portland, Seattle or LA. The thing is CFB is driven by viewers out of places like Tuscaloosa, AL; State College, PA; Bryan, TX; Norman, OK; not the so-called hip cities listed above.

Hipsters don't watch college football.

(07-18-2022 01:59 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 12:05 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 11:48 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  My guess is Dodds consider the city of Cincinnati to be this boring, rust bucket town; not a hip place like Portland, Seattle or LA. The thing is CFB is driven by viewers out of places like Tuscaloosa, AL; State College, PA; Bryan, TX; Norman, OK; not the so-called hip cities listed above.

Yep.

It's funny. He's talking about what was attractive to youth culture 20-40 years ago.

I teach college students, and when they talk about Portland or San Francisco, it's always in a negative light. My students nowadays talk about wanting to move to Nashville, Austin, or Dallas. Followed by Denver, Orlando, or a beach town in Florida. West Coast never makes the list.

The rents in Portland and San Francisco are crazy. Nashville, Austin and Dallas are all young and hip now but are rapidly becoming outpaced too. Asheville, NC will become another hot young place until its too expensive there. And so it goes.

It's not really about rents. It's about how cool it is.

Denver is still cool because of the outdoor activities and the craft beer scene. But that's about the only place that is still cool from 30 years ago.

What would attract the youth to Portland? In 1990, it was eco-hippies who smoked pot. But pot is legal almost everywhere now, and the frontlines of the environmental movement have moved away from save-the-trees (almost exclusively a Pacific Northwest youth movement) to stuffy white-collar climate change conferences (which is nationwide, and is largely people over 35).

What would attract the youth to San Francisco? In 1990, Silicon Valley was exploding and there were great TV shows & movies with a positive image of the city (Full House, Mrs Doubtfire, Star Trek). It offered New York-style urban living without New York problems. Today, the only thing you hear on TV about San Francisco is homelessness, crime, evil tech firms, and tech firms moving jobs to Austin.

I agree that Ashville is a boomtown now. So is Boise.

(07-18-2022 03:02 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 01:59 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 12:05 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(07-18-2022 11:48 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  My guess is Dodds consider the city of Cincinnati to be this boring, rust bucket town; not a hip place like Portland, Seattle or LA. The thing is CFB is driven by viewers out of places like Tuscaloosa, AL; State College, PA; Bryan, TX; Norman, OK; not the so-called hip cities listed above.

Yep.

It's funny. He's talking about what was attractive to youth culture 20-40 years ago.

I teach college students, and when they talk about Portland or San Francisco, it's always in a negative light. My students nowadays talk about wanting to move to Nashville, Austin, or Dallas. Followed by Denver, Orlando, or a beach town in Florida. West Coast never makes the list.

The rents in Portland and San Francisco are crazy. Nashville, Austin and Dallas are all young and hip now but are rapidly becoming outpaced too. Asheville, NC will become another hot young place until its too expensive there. And so it goes.

It's not really about rents. It's about how cool it is.

Denver is still cool because of the outdoor activities and the craft beer scene. But that's about the only place that is still cool from 30 years ago.

What would attract the youth to Portland? In 1990, it was eco-hippies who smoked pot. But pot is legal almost everywhere now, and the frontlines of the environmental movement have moved away from save-the-trees (almost exclusively a Pacific Northwest youth movement) to stuffy white-collar climate change conferences (which is nationwide, and is largely people over 35).

What would attract the youth to San Francisco? In 1990, Silicon Valley was exploding and there were great TV shows & movies with a positive image of the city (Full House, Mrs Doubtfire, Star Trek). It offered New York-style urban living without New York problems. Today, the only thing you hear on TV about San Francisco is homelessness, crime, evil tech firms, and tech firms moving jobs to Austin.

I agree that Ashville is a boomtown now. So is Boise.

Interesting perspective. I moved to Denver 28 years ago, then to Portland 11 years ago. The main reason I moved to Colorado was for access to the outdoors, but that became increasingly difficult because of the number of people moving there and poor planning. We moved to Portland for the same reason, and it's been delightful. In just over an hour, I can be on a lift at one of three ski areas, at the beach, in incredible wine country, or on a river for world class rafting. The city has incredible food and beer, but it's ridiculously expensive for young people, thus the attractiveness of other western places like Boise, Salt Lake, etc. I love me some Timbers soccer, but sure to miss pro baseball and hockey.

I travel to San Francisco every other month. It's still an incredible city and region, but the tech bots have caused it to lose some of it's soul. Same with Seattle.