(05-11-2022 01:04 PM)liquidpirate Wrote:  I don't understand why ECU just don't go to Vince and Linda McMahon and ask for money and go hey we will name a indoor practice facility after you all. Vince would go for having a building on campus with his name on it in a minute, he donated $500,000 for a fellowship grant go for more. Honor him at halftime the whole red carpet treatment and get this NIL money. Problem with ECU is they make more excuses on why they can't do something instead of thinking outside the box and getting it done.

How do you know he hasn't been asked? It seems like some of y'all just assume he'd throw millions at us w/o blinking and we have just been too stupid to have a conversation. Maybe he doesn't care about the athletic program.

(05-11-2022 12:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 06:29 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 05:47 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .

With the AAC slated to add 6 CUSA FB programs in 2023, what are you as an ECU, Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane, Tulsa, and/or USF football fan expecting over the next 5 seasons?

Trends (#wins/season) over the past 4 seasons:

.................2017......2018......2019......2020......2021....recent trend:

ECU..............3............3............4..........3...........7............up
Memphis......10............8..........12..........8...........6............flat
Navy.............7............3...........11.........3...........4............down
SMU..............7............5..........10..........7...........8............flat
Temple..........7............8............8..........1...........3............down
Tulane...........5............7............7..........6...........2............down
Tulsa.............2............3............4..........6...........7............up
USF..............10...........7............4..........1...........2............down

Q: What would you predict for the team(s) you're rooting for, and why?

What general trend would you predict for each team in the conference over the next five years?

ECU............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Memphis.....up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Navy...........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
SMU............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Temple........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Tulane..........up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
Tulsa............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?
USF..............up, down, or flat, or "unclear"?

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Here are my predictions:

ECU: Up - will average ~5-7 wins/year (multiple bowl games)
Memphis: Up - will become an elite FB program & will join Big 12.
Navy: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
SMU: Up - will be one of the AAC's top 2-3 programs; may join Big 12.
Tulane: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.
Temple: Steady improvement - will play in 2-3 bowl games in next 5 years.
Tulsa: Continued improvement - will play in multiple bowl games.
USF: Unclear, but would expect some improvement.

Explanation:

* Most, if not all should win 1 or 2 more games per year as of 2023, since they will be playing CUSA6 teams rather than UC, UCF, or UH.

* Memphis & SMU have the Big 12 in their sights and will make a big push for that.

* ECU and Tulsa seem to have gotten their football programs back on track.

* Temple has rebooted with a promising new coaching staff with P5 experience.

* Need to learn more about developments at Navy & USF.

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I agree, but some of those CUSA6 teams will not be pushovers. We just barely got by La Tech last year. And UTSA beat Memphis.

We didnt add LaTech. Other than UAB, the AAC really didnt add anyone that should really give the legacy AAC teams much to immediately worry about. For the additions---its all about potential and what they do with this opportunity. When CUSA expanded after the Big East/AAC raids----the legacy left behind teams flourished---Marshall, UAB---heck---even Rice won a championship. S Miss fell off and then rebounded. The only legacy team that failed to have any success within the first 4 or 5 years was UTEP. And, now nearly a decade after the 2011 realignment even UTEP the last legacy team to enjoy post-realignment success is finally trending upward. The new line up should be a positive for the legacy team records overall---especially for those that have had reasonably consistent success in the original AAC and 2011 version of CUSA. So, Id expect Memphis, SMU, Temple, and ECU to all do fairly well. USF should at least do better than they have in the previous version of the AAC.

I disagree. I think UAB and UTSA will compete right away. North Texas and FAU have the recruiting areas and have had success in the past to ramp up quickly. Charlotte and Rice are the two that I see struggling the most from the get go.
From the remainders, I think all 8 have proven at some time or another the ability to compete for the top and I don’t see that changing. That’s what has made the AAC successful in past that it’s not just a one trick pony.
We will get a better idea who will compete for title in 2023, after we see what happens in 2022.

Winning seasons in the 9 years of AAC
SMU 4 with one double digit win season
USF. 4 with 2 double digit win seasons
ECU 3. With one double digit win season
Tulsa 4 with one double digit win season
Memphis 8 with 3 double digit win seasons
Navy 6 with 3 double digit win seasons
Temple 5 with 2 double digit win seasons
Tulane 3 with zero double digit win seasons

(05-11-2022 01:23 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 01:04 PM)liquidpirate Wrote:  I don't understand why ECU just don't go to Vince and Linda McMahon and ask for money and go hey we will name a indoor practice facility after you all. Vince would go for having a building on campus with his name on it in a minute, he donated $500,000 for a fellowship grant go for more. Honor him at halftime the whole red carpet treatment and get this NIL money. Problem with ECU is they make more excuses on why they can't do something instead of thinking outside the box and getting it done.

How do you know he hasn't been asked? It seems like some of y'all just assume he'd throw millions at us w/o blinking and we have just been too stupid to have a conversation. Maybe he doesn't care about the athletic program.

The McMahons have been generous on the academic side of things.

(05-11-2022 01:04 PM)liquidpirate Wrote:  I don't understand why ECU just don't go to Vince and Linda McMahon and ask for money and go hey we will name a indoor practice facility after you all. Vince would go for having a building on campus with his name on it in a minute, he donated $500,000 for a fellowship grant go for more. Honor him at halftime the whole red carpet treatment and get this NIL money. Problem with ECU is they make more excuses on why they can't do something instead of thinking outside the box and getting it done.

Have you never been on an ECU board? Vince (historically, and Mr. Beast more recently) is volunteered by a different cheap-azz poster to pay for something about every 14 minutes.

(05-11-2022 01:53 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Winning seasons in the 9 years of AAC
SMU 4 with one double digit win season
USF. 4 with 2 double digit win seasons
ECU 3. With one double digit win season
Tulsa 4 with one double digit win season
Memphis 8 with 3 double digit win seasons
Navy 6 with 3 double digit win seasons
Temple 5 with 2 double digit win seasons
Tulane 3 with zero double digit win seasons

2 for us in 8 years. We were in CUSA in 2013.

clt says eCu should start a pro wrestling club team

(05-11-2022 04:26 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says eCu should start a pro wrestling club team

If Vince McMahon sponsors it, ABSOLUTEY!!!!!!

(05-11-2022 04:28 PM)Miami Pirate Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 04:26 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says eCu should start a pro wrestling club team

If Vince McMahon sponsors it, ABSOLUTEY!!!!!!

clt says one of the hardy boys went to Charlotte for a year but didn’t graduate, he can be our coach.

(05-11-2022 04:33 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 04:28 PM)Miami Pirate Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 04:26 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says eCu should start a pro wrestling club team

If Vince McMahon sponsors it, ABSOLUTEY!!!!!!

clt says one of the hardy boys went to Charlotte for a year but didn’t graduate, he can be our coach.

CLT! GET OUT THE TABLES!!!

(05-11-2022 04:44 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 04:33 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 04:28 PM)Miami Pirate Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 04:26 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt says eCu should start a pro wrestling club team

If Vince McMahon sponsors it, ABSOLUTEY!!!!!!

clt says one of the hardy boys went to Charlotte for a year but didn’t graduate, he can be our coach.

CLT! GET OUT THE TABLES!!!

clt yells Smackdown!

(05-11-2022 01:04 PM)liquidpirate Wrote:  I don't understand why ECU just don't go to Vince and Linda McMahon and ask for money and go hey we will name a indoor practice facility after you all. Vince would go for having a building on campus with his name on it in a minute, he donated $500,000 for a fellowship grant go for more. Honor him at halftime the whole red carpet treatment and get this NIL money. Problem with ECU is they make more excuses on why they can't do something instead of thinking outside the box and getting it done.

Bro, that’s literally the most “in the box” thinking. Thing is: Vince ain’t all that interested in ECU. He’s only ever even booked 1 WWF/WWE event in Greenville.

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Q: Does anyone know what's up with Navy's FB program?

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(05-11-2022 01:53 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  Winning seasons in the 9 years of AAC
SMU 4 with one double digit win season
USF. 4 with 2 double digit win seasons
ECU 3. With one double digit win season
Tulsa 4 with one double digit win season
Memphis 8 with 3 double digit win seasons
Navy 6 with 3 double digit win seasons
Temple 5 with 2 double digit win seasons
Tulane 3 with zero double digit win seasons

Total wins, 2015-2022 (the last team to join was Navy, in 2015):

...........................2020...........avg. wins......bowl-eligible
......................adjustment:.....per season:.......teams:

Memphis: 61........+.724.............8.82.................7
Navy: 48..............+.600............6.94.................4
Temple: 47............+.716...........6.82.................5
SMU: 44...............+1.4..............6.48.................4
USF: 43................+.332............6.19.................3
Tulsa: 38..............+2.0..............5.71.................4
Tulane: 34............+0.0..............4.86.................3
ECU: 28...............+.996.............4.14.................1 (in 2022)

Average # of wins per season:......6.245

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(05-10-2022 05:57 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF- up, everything is in place for 2023 being a big year, 2022 could be a bowl season only question is how we come out of OOC schedule. But the talent and depth that is there compared to 2020 is night and day. USF will be among top AAC teams as early as 2023

No offense brother, but I hear this from various USF supporters EVERY year. I need to see it to believe it. Our epic, and prolonged, crash really took the enthusiasm out of folks like me. And I am no bandwagon fan, I've bled green and gold for a LONG time. It's just hard to keep it going after essentially a decade, and three coaches, of promises and failures.

That said, always hoping... and I sure hope you are right. USF is going nowhere, OCS or no OCS, unless we get out of the basement. I'd be thrilled with 6 and a bowl win... over anybody at this point. And an AAC championship is essential within the next 5 years.

(05-11-2022 08:52 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 05:57 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF- up, everything is in place for 2023 being a big year, 2022 could be a bowl season only question is how we come out of OOC schedule. But the talent and depth that is there compared to 2020 is night and day. USF will be among top AAC teams as early as 2023

No offense brother, but I hear this from various USF supporters EVERY year. I need to see it to believe it. Our epic, and prolonged, crash really took the enthusiasm out of folks like me. And I am no bandwagon fan, I've bled green and gold for a LONG time. It's just hard to keep it going after essentially a decade, and three coaches, of promises and failures.

That said, always hoping... and I sure hope you are right. USF is going nowhere, OCS or no OCS, unless we get out of the basement. I'd be thrilled with 6 and a bowl win... over anybody at this point. And an AAC championship is essential within the next 5 years.

Get ready to be surprised

(05-11-2022 09:02 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 08:52 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(05-10-2022 05:57 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF- up, everything is in place for 2023 being a big year, 2022 could be a bowl season only question is how we come out of OOC schedule. But the talent and depth that is there compared to 2020 is night and day. USF will be among top AAC teams as early as 2023

No offense brother, but I hear this from various USF supporters EVERY year. I need to see it to believe it. Our epic, and prolonged, crash really took the enthusiasm out of folks like me. And I am no bandwagon fan, I've bled green and gold for a LONG time. It's just hard to keep it going after essentially a decade, and three coaches, of promises and failures.

That said, always hoping... and I sure hope you are right. USF is going nowhere, OCS or no OCS, unless we get out of the basement. I'd be thrilled with 6 and a bowl win... over anybody at this point. And an AAC championship is essential within the next 5 years.

Get ready to be surprised

(05-11-2022 08:00 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 01:04 PM)liquidpirate Wrote:  I don't understand why ECU just don't go to Vince and Linda McMahon and ask for money and go hey we will name a indoor practice facility after you all. Vince would go for having a building on campus with his name on it in a minute, he donated $500,000 for a fellowship grant go for more. Honor him at halftime the whole red carpet treatment and get this NIL money. Problem with ECU is they make more excuses on why they can't do something instead of thinking outside the box and getting it done.

Bro, that’s literally the most “in the box” thinking. Thing is: Vince ain’t all that interested in ECU. He’s only ever even booked 1 WWF/WWE event in Greenville.

clt says having one WWE event there was probably a nugget from Vince.

(05-11-2022 08:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .

Q: Does anyone know what's up with Navy's FB program?

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A: Yes.

(05-11-2022 08:00 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(05-11-2022 01:04 PM)liquidpirate Wrote:  I don't understand why ECU just don't go to Vince and Linda McMahon and ask for money and go hey we will name a indoor practice facility after you all. Vince would go for having a building on campus with his name on it in a minute, he donated $500,000 for a fellowship grant go for more. Honor him at halftime the whole red carpet treatment and get this NIL money. Problem with ECU is they make more excuses on why they can't do something instead of thinking outside the box and getting it done.

Bro, that’s literally the most “in the box” thinking. Thing is: Vince ain’t all that interested in ECU. He’s only ever even booked 1 WWF/WWE event in Greenville.

Not true. Vince and Linda have donated much more than you may think.