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RE: Sorry, But I Just Can't Congratulate Marshall, USM, or ODU For Leaving Early....
(02-13-2022 08:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
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(02-13-2022 01:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  This is just a post to remind you guys that in the last round of realignment, the teams moving from the SBC to CUSA all left without waiting a year despite announcing the initial plan to do so, which left the SBC in a lurch and forced us to add New Mexico State and Idaho football only to be able to have enough members to sponsor football.

Both leagues went behind after that happened and attempted to set up penalties for leaving early. But as we've seen in other cases in realignment. There's no real way to force a team to stay outside of financial penalties

Given that CUSA Still has 11 teams, you guys will manage just fine for a year.

That depends on how Judy wants to handle this. Am Injunction will definitely stop it. More than likely it will be a money exit.

I doubt it will stop it even if they tried an injunction. What would happen if there was a request for an injunction is USM/Marshall/ODU would counter sue in their own states and we'd get that fun part of contract law when you have states with wildly different laws. The courts would likely force this to arbitration, where a buyout gets agreed to.

That's sort of what the next week comes to. Either CUSA goes to the table and the two sides come to an agreement, or they go to court and both sides go scorched earth and a lot of mud gets slung.

In the end, the result is the same...the 3 schools play in the Sun Belt next year and everyone nationally has forgotten about it.

I believe C-USA is incorporated in Texas, so that's probably where this would play out. Marshall, USM, & ODU chose or agreed to be part of headquartering the conference in Texas. That's probably not favorable for those three out-of-state universities.
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RE: Sorry, But I Just Can't Congratulate Marshall, USM, or ODU For Leaving Early....
(02-13-2022 10:27 PM)Twon Wrote:  
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(02-13-2022 05:36 PM)Twon Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:13 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:03 PM)Twon Wrote:  It seems pretty cut and dry to me. The bylaws state that a injunction can be issued and equitable relief will be sought.

West Virginia left early from the Big East and paid 20 million as early penalty fee on top of their exits fees

UConn paid 7 million to leave a G5 conference early.

I think the injunction will be sought and won.

CUSA did the right thing by not pulling any of conference tournaments, Stating their position publicly weeks ago. Theses schools decided on their own under no duress to leave 18 months early. CUSA has all the legal precedent and bylaws on their side. I don’t see this turning out well for the SB3

The world I live in if you breach a contract you pay dearly. If you decide to quit paying your mortgage earlier than the bank siezes your house and your credit is ruined. If you stop paying your car note earlier same thing.

Unfortunately, college football doesn't exist in the real world. The question of damages pertains to the perceived value of the 3 schools leaving to CUSA's Media Rights deals. Those 3 schools are probably smart enough to know that no one is going to value this even close to the same as UConn, given the CUSA rights deals are less than half.

The reality is, the 3 schools did this because CUSA Refused to negotiate. This was a tactic designed to force CUSA to sue and force the parties to actually talk.

Its a very similar tactic to what Arkansas State used when Miami canceled their football game in Jonesboro several years back. When they wouldn't negotiate a buyout, we sued, despite the optics because we knew they would be forced to counter sue and judges would force both parties to come to an agreement. In the end, we got a percentage of what the perceived value of the game was to Jonesboro.


Please point to where in the bylaws that states CUSA has to negotiate a early exit with schools leaving early?

The bylaws state a injunction can be issue.

There really is nothing to negotiate. CUSA stated their position that follows the contractual Bylaws. CUSA bylaws state a injunction can be issued and USM, Marshall and ODU agreed to these bylaws.

Louisville wanted to leave early from the Big East but had to stay because the Big East did not want to negotiate a early exit.

CUSA doesn’t have to negotiate a early exit. There is nothing in the bylaws about the schools having a right to negotiate a early.

It just doesn’t exist in the bylaws. CUSA is follow the bylaws and the SB3 are not plain and simple. Good luck in court!


you are wrong on several things and of course you contradict yourself

https://www.wvgazettemail.com/sports/wvu...00f5e.html

1. WVU paid a TOTAL of $20 million to leave early not an exit fee plus $20 million

2. WVU was able to leave early so Louisville would have been able to leave early if they wanted to and trying to say they could not when WVU was able to is just dumb

3. as stated in the article above Syracuse was also able to leave a year early and paid 50% more than the $5 million exit fee or a total of $7.5 million

so WVU paid a TOTAL of 4X the exit fee to leave immediately while Syracuse paid 50% more to leave a year early and there is nothing that indicates Louisville was not able to leave early IF THEY HAD WANTED TO....but they DID NOT WANT TO it was their choice

plus Louisville did not have a formal offer to join the ACC until Nov. of 2012 while the Big 12 NEEDED a member (two members actually, but TCU was settled) before Sept. 2012 and Louisville had been slow rolling the Big 12 on an answer so the Big 12 moved on

so based on what Syracuse paid for leaving one year early the SB3 will owe the CUSA an additional 2 piece thigh and breast with an extra biscuit in addition to the full bucket of chicken and 3 pints of sides called for in the contract

Todge Louisiville saw how unfavorable the Courts were in the WVU decision and decided to stay. Undoubtedly it was a wise decision on Louisville part.

Same reason Texas and Oklahoma are not leaving early, Courts will always favor the signed contractual bylaws go against the breaching party.

Also WVU had to negotiate scheduling settlements with individual conference schools. That was on top of the 20 million exit fee.

WVU filed suit in Oct 10 months before expected departure.

The SB3 announced their early exit 3 days before conference schedules were to be release. Undoubtedly this will be a major advantage for CUSA injunction.

Louisville had already stated they were going to stay the entire 3 years they had no perspective on what WVU would pay to leave

Louisville had stated their intentions to NOT LEAVE before it was known what it would cost for WVU to leave......that is why the Big 12 had to move on from Louisville because in order to keep the brand new tier 2 TV contract with Fox the Big 12 was required to have 10 teams so the Big 12 needed 10 teams prior to the end of the fiscal 2011-12 year

in Oct of 2011 TCU was offered a spot in the Big 12

TCU and WVU joined the Big 12 in Sept. of 2012

Louisville was not OFFERED a spot in the ACC until Nov 2012

Louisville had made clear before they ever had a solid offer anywhere they were going to stay all 3 years in the Big East and that was well before they knew what it would cost WVU to leave

not to mention as the article I linked points out it only cost Syracuse an additional $2.5 million to leave a year early to the ACC

so what you are saying is still wrong Louisville had no perspective in what the cost to leave early were going to be before they stated they would stay 3 years no matter what
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(02-13-2022 10:31 PM)Sosodude00 Wrote:  How were things handled back in 2012 when MTSU and FAU left the Sunbelt to join CUSA a year early? They negotiated and made it happen. The Sun Belt was left with 8 teams that year, but it still happened.
That was a choice. That doesn't mean cusa has to do it. Sun belt could have held it up if they wanted to

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(02-13-2022 10:45 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:31 PM)Sosodude00 Wrote:  How were things handled back in 2012 when MTSU and FAU left the Sunbelt to join CUSA a year early? They negotiated and made it happen. The Sun Belt was left with 8 teams that year, but it still happened.
That was a choice. That doesn't mean cusa has to do it. Sun belt could have held it up if they wanted to

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RE: Sorry, But I Just Can't Congratulate Marshall, USM, or ODU For Leaving Early....
(02-13-2022 10:39 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 08:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 07:11 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 01:00 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  This is just a post to remind you guys that in the last round of realignment, the teams moving from the SBC to CUSA all left without waiting a year despite announcing the initial plan to do so, which left the SBC in a lurch and forced us to add New Mexico State and Idaho football only to be able to have enough members to sponsor football.

Both leagues went behind after that happened and attempted to set up penalties for leaving early. But as we've seen in other cases in realignment. There's no real way to force a team to stay outside of financial penalties

Given that CUSA Still has 11 teams, you guys will manage just fine for a year.

That depends on how Judy wants to handle this. Am Injunction will definitely stop it. More than likely it will be a money exit.

I doubt it will stop it even if they tried an injunction. What would happen if there was a request for an injunction is USM/Marshall/ODU would counter sue in their own states and we'd get that fun part of contract law when you have states with wildly different laws. The courts would likely force this to arbitration, where a buyout gets agreed to.

That's sort of what the next week comes to. Either CUSA goes to the table and the two sides come to an agreement, or they go to court and both sides go scorched earth and a lot of mud gets slung.

In the end, the result is the same...the 3 schools play in the Sun Belt next year and everyone nationally has forgotten about it.

I believe C-USA is incorporated in Texas, so that's probably where this would play out. Marshall, USM, & ODU chose or agreed to be part of headquartering the conference in Texas. That's probably not favorable for those three out-of-state universities.
So tejas judges moonlight as cusa football and basketball officials?
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(02-13-2022 10:09 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 07:58 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:53 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:44 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:02 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Gill talked to the entire CUSA West sans UTEP from what I understand. It never took off because everyone with a pulse knew there would not be enough support from either side to make it happen. Tech didn't join in until real late though, after the AAC schools had left.

The SBC was at the time considering whether or not to expand to 12, 14, or 16 teams, and also looking at who the best available teams were. We talked to just about every possible option under the sun, even schools that we knew the votes would be hard to get.

So... the SBC didn't necessarily "want UNT back".

I had a feeling.

No. The SB didn't want UTEP. If the Belt didn't want UNT they wouldn't have called us. We didn't reach out to the Sun Belt.

Don't worry, we never entertained the thought of moving back to the Sun Belt. The MWC had our full attention until the AAC shocked us with the "Texas 3" invitation.

I know for a fact that UNT was only a plan C and lower option for the SBC. If the schools that joined were available and willing UNT was out. I have no doubt unt was doing the same but neither side “wanted” the other.

I've noticed over the years, that many UNT fans here seem to think that the world revolves around their school. Why they act that way, I can't figure out.

Fact is... UNT was not a first option for the SBC, and the SBC was not desired by UNT.

First... there have never been many UNT fans around here. Even when UNT was in the Sun Belt, there were only a handful of us UNT posters on y'alls board. Personally, I rarely post anything over there. Maybe two or three posts over the last decade.

Second... I never said we were the Belt's first option. I said the Belt reached out to us again and we weren't interested. That's just the facts. So I have no idea what you're trying to sell here on the C-USA board.

As for your opinion of UNT's fans, you sound butt-hurt. We just follow our programs and enjoy talking sports like everyone else. If we have something to cheer about, we celebrate. If we have something to gripe about, we complain. That's pretty standard for every fan base. I have no opinion of Troy. I don't waste my time thinking about the programs we played back in our Sun Belt days. You should move on too.
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RE: Sorry, But I Just Can't Congratulate Marshall, USM, or ODU For Leaving Early....
(02-13-2022 11:03 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:09 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 07:58 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:53 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:44 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  So... the SBC didn't necessarily "want UNT back".

I had a feeling.

No. The SB didn't want UTEP. If the Belt didn't want UNT they wouldn't have called us. We didn't reach out to the Sun Belt.

Don't worry, we never entertained the thought of moving back to the Sun Belt. The MWC had our full attention until the AAC shocked us with the "Texas 3" invitation.

I know for a fact that UNT was only a plan C and lower option for the SBC. If the schools that joined were available and willing UNT was out. I have no doubt unt was doing the same but neither side “wanted” the other.

I've noticed over the years, that many UNT fans here seem to think that the world revolves around their school. Why they act that way, I can't figure out.

Fact is... UNT was not a first option for the SBC, and the SBC was not desired by UNT.

First... there have never been many UNT fans around here. Even when UNT was in the Sun Belt, there were only a handful of us UNT posters on y'alls board. Personally, I rarely post anything over there. Maybe two or three posts over the last decade.

Second... I never said we were the Belt's first option. I said the Belt reached out to us again and we weren't interested. That's just the facts. So I have no idea what you're trying to sell here on the C-USA board.

As for your opinion of UNT's fans, you sound butt-hurt. We just follow our programs and enjoy talking sports like everyone else. If we have something to cheer about, we do celebrate. If we have something to gripe about we complain. That's pretty standard for every fan base. I have no opinion of Troy. I don't waste my time thinking about the programs we played back in our Sun Belt days. Yo should move on too.

No one cares what you think slow joe. Keep focusing on beating SMU - and winning the Dallas market - neither of which will ever happen.
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RE: Sorry, But I Just Can't Congratulate Marshall, USM, or ODU For Leaving Early....
(02-13-2022 11:03 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:09 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 07:58 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:53 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:44 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  So... the SBC didn't necessarily "want UNT back".

I had a feeling.

No. The SB didn't want UTEP. If the Belt didn't want UNT they wouldn't have called us. We didn't reach out to the Sun Belt.

Don't worry, we never entertained the thought of moving back to the Sun Belt. The MWC had our full attention until the AAC shocked us with the "Texas 3" invitation.

I know for a fact that UNT was only a plan C and lower option for the SBC. If the schools that joined were available and willing UNT was out. I have no doubt unt was doing the same but neither side “wanted” the other.

I've noticed over the years, that many UNT fans here seem to think that the world revolves around their school. Why they act that way, I can't figure out.

Fact is... UNT was not a first option for the SBC, and the SBC was not desired by UNT.

First... there have never been many UNT fans around here. Even when UNT was in the Sun Belt, there were only a handful of us UNT posters on y'alls board. Personally, I rarely post anything over there. Maybe two or three posts over the last decade.

Second... I never said we were the Belt's first option. I said the Belt reached out to us again and we weren't interested. That's just the facts. So I have no idea what you're trying to sell here on the C-USA board.

As for your opinion of UNT's fans, you sound butt-hurt. We just follow our programs and enjoy talking sports like everyone else. If we have something to cheer about, we do celebrate. If we have something to gripe about we complain. That's pretty standard for every fan base. I have no opinion of Troy. I don't waste my time thinking about the programs we played back in our Sun Belt days. Yo should move on too.

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(02-13-2022 11:08 PM)Monarch Pride Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 11:03 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:09 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 07:58 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:53 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  No. The SB didn't want UTEP. If the Belt didn't want UNT they wouldn't have called us. We didn't reach out to the Sun Belt.

Don't worry, we never entertained the thought of moving back to the Sun Belt. The MWC had our full attention until the AAC shocked us with the "Texas 3" invitation.

I know for a fact that UNT was only a plan C and lower option for the SBC. If the schools that joined were available and willing UNT was out. I have no doubt unt was doing the same but neither side “wanted” the other.

I've noticed over the years, that many UNT fans here seem to think that the world revolves around their school. Why they act that way, I can't figure out.

Fact is... UNT was not a first option for the SBC, and the SBC was not desired by UNT.

First... there have never been many UNT fans around here. Even when UNT was in the Sun Belt, there were only a handful of us UNT posters on y'alls board. Personally, I rarely post anything over there. Maybe two or three posts over the last decade.

Second... I never said we were the Belt's first option. I said the Belt reached out to us again and we weren't interested. That's just the facts. So I have no idea what you're trying to sell here on the C-USA board.

As for your opinion of UNT's fans, you sound butt-hurt. We just follow our programs and enjoy talking sports like everyone else. If we have something to cheer about, we do celebrate. If we have something to gripe about we complain. That's pretty standard for every fan base. I have no opinion of Troy. I don't waste my time thinking about the programs we played back in our Sun Belt days. Yo should move on too.

No one cares what you think slow joe. Keep focusing on beating SMU - and winning the Dallas market - neither of which will ever happen.

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(02-13-2022 11:09 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 11:03 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:09 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 07:58 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 05:53 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  No. The SB didn't want UTEP. If the Belt didn't want UNT they wouldn't have called us. We didn't reach out to the Sun Belt.

Don't worry, we never entertained the thought of moving back to the Sun Belt. The MWC had our full attention until the AAC shocked us with the "Texas 3" invitation.

I know for a fact that UNT was only a plan C and lower option for the SBC. If the schools that joined were available and willing UNT was out. I have no doubt unt was doing the same but neither side “wanted” the other.

I've noticed over the years, that many UNT fans here seem to think that the world revolves around their school. Why they act that way, I can't figure out.

Fact is... UNT was not a first option for the SBC, and the SBC was not desired by UNT.

First... there have never been many UNT fans around here. Even when UNT was in the Sun Belt, there were only a handful of us UNT posters on y'alls board. Personally, I rarely post anything over there. Maybe two or three posts over the last decade.

Second... I never said we were the Belt's first option. I said the Belt reached out to us again and we weren't interested. That's just the facts. So I have no idea what you're trying to sell here on the C-USA board.

As for your opinion of UNT's fans, you sound butt-hurt. We just follow our programs and enjoy talking sports like everyone else. If we have something to cheer about, we do celebrate. If we have something to gripe about we complain. That's pretty standard for every fan base. I have no opinion of Troy. I don't waste my time thinking about the programs we played back in our Sun Belt days. Yo should move on too.

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The hate comes from jealousy. UNT just moved up to the AAC.

Just looking at posts on this forum it looks like there is a lot jealousy directed toward La Tech also
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(02-13-2022 10:17 PM)Twon Wrote:  The SB3 announced their early departure 3 days before the release of the football schedules. That is unprecedented as far as I can remember

Did you not see in the 3 letters the schools sent out that we notified CUSA offices in December that we planned to leave early. Cusa officials ghosted the 3 schools and then sent out schedules anyway.
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(02-13-2022 11:29 PM)benny_t Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:17 PM)Twon Wrote:  The SB3 announced their early departure 3 days before the release of the football schedules. That is unprecedented as far as I can remember

Did you not see in the 3 letters the schools sent out that we notified CUSA offices in December that we planned to leave early. Cusa officials ghosted the 3 schools and then sent out schedules anyway.

And u think because u said so that the courts will throw out the contract?
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(02-13-2022 10:17 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 07:05 PM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Just curious moderators. How does calling a team C’UNT not get you banned? I mean really.? Hello in there

Probably because we don't complain about it. While name calling is petty, it doesn't bother me in the least. I'd rather tolerate that then see this thread relegated to the smack board.

Now, if some are offended, I'd prefer the mods split the thread and move the offending posts into their own thread on the smack board. But, this is a timely and valid thread, so I hope some of the thin skinned posters don't derail it.

Well the word itself is offensive. It should bother u
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(02-14-2022 12:11 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 11:29 PM)benny_t Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:17 PM)Twon Wrote:  The SB3 announced their early departure 3 days before the release of the football schedules. That is unprecedented as far as I can remember

Did you not see in the 3 letters the schools sent out that we notified CUSA offices in December that we planned to leave early. Cusa officials ghosted the 3 schools and then sent out schedules anyway.

And u think because u said so that the courts will throw out the contract?

Holy conjecture batman. Nowhere in my post did I say anything resembling that. I was just pointing out that the conference knew way before 3 days like the post I quoted was saying.
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(02-13-2022 10:51 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:45 PM)Ragu Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 10:31 PM)Sosodude00 Wrote:  How were things handled back in 2012 when MTSU and FAU left the Sunbelt to join CUSA a year early? They negotiated and made it happen. The Sun Belt was left with 8 teams that year, but it still happened.
That was a choice. That doesn't mean cusa has to do it. Sun belt could have held it up if they wanted to

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Not really. Just because one conference chooses to let teams go early doesn't mean another has to do so.

And you guys saying you are leaving in December has zero relevance. You are still violating bylaws very clearly

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RE: Sorry, But I Just Can't Congratulate Marshall, USM, or ODU For Leaving Early....
(02-13-2022 11:24 PM)Twon Wrote:  The hate comes from jealousy. UNT just moved up to the AAC.

Just looking at posts on this forum it looks like there is a lot jealousy directed toward La Tech also

This sums up this forum in most threads. Several are pissed about their move down to the SBC. Amazing the ones moving up to the AAC have self confidence in their programs.

This early withdraw doesnt look good on the SB3 and what their standards are but I cant say a lot without looking in the mirror as we left the OVC refusing to pay our out fee. We did stay the required time so I guess we are the same breaking (or trying to) only one of the two. And it wasnt a good look for JSU.
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RE: Sorry, But I Just Can't Congratulate Marshall, USM, or ODU For Leaving Early....
I'm sure ODU, USM, and Marshall will pay something for leaving early. However, having this go to court will be expensive and likely unfruitful for CUSA. What's the best case scenario for CUSA leadership? Probably an exit fee of the cost of a school's share of the media deal and a little extra? That could of been negotiated in good faith over the past few months and now there will be bad blood spilled in the media and in the legal system.

Note: Not a lawyer, and I don't play one on TV either. 04-cheers

CUSA was a good home for ODU. I hope all the remaining schools do well (including the AAC6), and I'm sure we'll play some of you all OOC.
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(02-14-2022 07:24 AM)Murray007 Wrote:  I'm sure ODU, USM, and Marshall will pay something for leaving early. However, having this go to court will be expensive and likely unfruitful for CUSA. What's the best case scenario for CUSA leadership? Probably an exit fee of the cost of a school's share of the media deal and a little extra? That could of been negotiated in good faith over the past few months and now there will be bad blood spilled in the media and in the legal system.

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CUSA was a good home for ODU. I hope all the remaining schools do well (including the AAC6), and I'm sure we'll play some of you all OOC.

If the SB3 are order by a judge to pay, then I would assume the SB3 will be paying all legal fees. CUSA would come out with no cost (or little). Highly unlikely a judge would rule the CUSA has to pay the SB3 fees. CUSA has less risk than the SB3.

In the end a settlement will be reached but in the meantime its just a bunch of ******** trying to out ******* each other.
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RE: Sorry, But I Just Can't Congratulate Marshall, USM, or ODU For Leaving Early....
(02-14-2022 07:15 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  
(02-13-2022 11:24 PM)Twon Wrote:  The hate comes from jealousy. UNT just moved up to the AAC.

Just looking at posts on this forum it looks like there is a lot jealousy directed toward La Tech also

This sums up this forum in most threads. Several are pissed about their move down to the SBC. Amazing the ones moving up to the AAC have self confidence in their programs.

This early withdraw doesnt look good on the SB3 and what their standards are but I cant say a lot without looking in the mirror as we left the OVC refusing to pay our out fee. We did stay the required time so I guess we are the same breaking (or trying to) only one of the two. And it wasnt a good look for JSU.

Pissed about our move down to the SBC? That is a new one for sure. Judging by the forums and general excitement around Huntington I’d say you missed the mark on that one. Things literally could have not worked out better for the SB3 durning this last realignment.

The only bad look is how CUSA is acting over us leaving early. It has been made known for a while that we were planning on leaving at the end of this year. Do not give me the scheduling BS as an excuse of why CUSA is angry. The conference still has 11 teams, so scheduling shouldn’t have been a problem.

If the AAC had room for the 6 schools to come over this year do you really think they would not leave as well? They just do not have the option to go and are stuck for another year. Thus, getting to play it like they are “doing it the right way”. Give me a break.

If the SB3 are such dead weight and worthless, why is CUSA fighting so hard to keep us another year? Why not just settle an amount and send us on our own way and out of your hair? Me thinks CUSA knows where their future media deal is headed and are trying to squeeze every dime they can out of everyone while they can.

Good luck to the future CUSA, but the SB3 are not the ones looking bad through this. More like the current CUSA HQ offices acting like a scorned ex girlfriend looking to make like miserable for the old boyfriend. CUSA has really struggled with public/media perception over the last 10 years, and this is going to make it much worse.
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