(02-02-2022 01:11 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  Can anyone tell me WHY taking cash instead of a return game is more embarrassing for MT?

Again, I think MT’s AD bares some responsibility for them having only 5 home games this year regardless of the late back out by Missouri. But that’s the only negative I can see.

After having six home games six times in seven years from 2009-2015, this will be the fourth time in seven years(going off our original 2020 schedule) that we've only had five.

(02-02-2022 08:16 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Overreaction by the OP who constantly attempts to belittle other schools while pumping up his own. Everyone is aware of his methods except him.

This was the good outcome for a short notice situation for MTSU. Period.

Whatever. I applaud programs in C-USA when they step up and do good things. And, I question things that deserve questioning. There is no agenda for or against any program.

When UNT is crapping the bed, I call them out for it. I've been on Littrell's case for some time now, hoping he would be fired. I'm sure coach Littrell wouldn't accuse me of pumping up his UNT football program. In fact, UNT is stinking it up in recruiting right now. Just another reason Littrell needs to go.

(02-02-2022 10:19 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I think its funny that we have a Tech fan trying to ridicule us for making lemonade out of lemons in this situation while they allowed this Baylor thing to happen.

So before Mizzou dropped us, tell us how you guys ended up with a guarantee that was nothing but some gas money to play in Waco?

It’s also funny how we got paid 1 mil when we went to Missouri (and won).

(02-02-2022 09:34 PM)Ewglenn Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 10:19 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I think its funny that we have a Tech fan trying to ridicule us for making lemonade out of lemons in this situation while they allowed this Baylor thing to happen.

So before Mizzou dropped us, tell us how you guys ended up with a guarantee that was nothing but some gas money to play in Waco?

It’s also funny how we got paid 1 mil when we went to Missouri (and won).

I certainly hope we can carry on that tradition and make them regret the last second change.

I'd feel better about our chances if it wasn't the first game with a new coaching staff, but you never know.

What exactly is the problem? Didn't UNT play at Liberty during Liberty’s transition year?

(02-02-2022 06:26 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 08:16 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Overreaction by the OP who constantly attempts to belittle other schools while pumping up his own. Everyone is aware of his methods except him.

This was the good outcome for a short notice situation for MTSU. Period.

Whatever. I applaud programs in C-USA when they step up and do good things. And, I question things that deserve questioning. There is no agenda for or against any program.

When UNT is crapping the bed, I call them out for it. I've been on Littrell's case for some time now, hoping he would be fired. I'm sure coach Littrell wouldn't accuse me of pumping up his UNT football program. In fact, UNT is stinking it up in recruiting right now. Just another reason Littrell needs to go.

So what exactly is the issue here? I’m sure the Dukes would have agreed to a H&H but MT was in the rare position to be able to demand cash from another G5 instead.

Just to be clear, this is NOT Middle fans complaining about this.

There are no issues. It’s a great deal. It just gives the disgusting Belt board another reason to attack MT or assume it’s because MT is pandering to get into the SEC. Ahem I’m sorry the Sunbelt.

(02-03-2022 10:45 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  There are no issues. It’s a great deal. It just gives the disgusting Belt board another reason to attack MT or assume it’s because MT is pandering to get into the SEC. Ahem I’m sorry the Sunbelt.

I'm sorry, but the SBC board hasn't attacked MT or even insinuated what you stated above. You should know, you lurk over there all the time.

In fact it was a team that's jumping over to the AAC that made the post and is disgusted.

Ewglenn and a couple other MT folks have posted over there, and to my knowledge wasn't met with hostility from any of us.

So in short, pound sand.

(02-03-2022 10:47 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 10:45 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  There are no issues. It’s a great deal. It just gives the disgusting Belt board another reason to attack MT or assume it’s because MT is pandering to get into the SEC. Ahem I’m sorry the Sunbelt.

I'm sorry, but the SBC board hasn't attacked MT or even insinuated what you stated above. You should know, you lurk over there all the time.

In fact it was a team that's jumping over to the AAC that made the post and is disgusted.

Ewglenn and a couple other MT folks have posted over there, and to my knowledge wasn't met with hostility from any of us.

So in short, pound sand.

Nah, Joe’s the only one I’ve seen saying it’s a slight on MT and he can’t explain that position. 5 home games is kind of a stiff to their fans but seems to not be out of the norm for MT

(02-02-2022 11:19 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Wow. Getting a 1.5 million payout to play JMU. And it counts as a FBS game because of it is absolute brilliance on MTs part. Sounds like a win win to me. Besides you are helping JMU out. That may come back to you someday.

If LA Tech had agreed to play a transitional Georgia St. in Atlanta in 2013 for $500k your fanbase would have stormed the gates.

(02-03-2022 01:31 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 11:19 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Wow. Getting a 1.5 million payout to play JMU. And it counts as a FBS game because of it is absolute brilliance on MTs part. Sounds like a win win to me. Besides you are helping JMU out. That may come back to you someday.

If LA Tech had agreed to play a transitional Georgia St. in Atlanta in 2013 for $500k your fanbase would have stormed the gates.

I get what you're what you're trying to say but honestly in hindsight I honestly would have taken that money and hopefully easy win because that was a horrible year as Skip couldn't beat anyone.

(02-03-2022 07:30 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  What exactly is the problem? Didn't UNT play at Liberty during Liberty’s transition year?

I thought we played Liberty during their first year of being FBS, but you could be right. At the time, I wasn't a fan of that series either.

(02-03-2022 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 06:26 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 08:16 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Overreaction by the OP who constantly attempts to belittle other schools while pumping up his own. Everyone is aware of his methods except him.

This was the good outcome for a short notice situation for MTSU. Period.

Whatever. I applaud programs in C-USA when they step up and do good things. And, I question things that deserve questioning. There is no agenda for or against any program.

When UNT is crapping the bed, I call them out for it. I've been on Littrell's case for some time now, hoping he would be fired. I'm sure coach Littrell wouldn't accuse me of pumping up his UNT football program. In fact, UNT is stinking it up in recruiting right now. Just another reason Littrell needs to go.

So what exactly is the issue here? I’m sure the Dukes would have agreed to a H&H but MT was in the rare position to be able to demand cash from another G5 instead.

It's just bad optics in my opinion. C-USA needs to be raising their game. I would have scheduled another FCS home game and told Stock he would have to earn his 6 bowl eligible wins with only 11 chances. I guess MT wanted the money more.

(02-01-2022 09:27 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Look at the little UNT fan getting his AACUSA diaper all wadded up over what. As if the school in Denton has ever done anything at all. Even your best QB in years had 2 LOSING seasons.

You think that the AAC is all of a sudden going to wash your problems away, nope doesn't work that way. You will just be a borderline horrible program just in a different conference is all.

Nothing in your post has anything to do with this topic. But since you're butt-hurt and feel like takes shots....

Here is a sad reality you need to accept. Nothing Marshall has done in their entire history of football was enough to move the Herd back into a conference with their old mates (Memphis, SMU, South Florida, ECU, Tulane, & Tulsa). They just don't want y'all. It appears Marshall has reached their ceiling as an FBS program, and a move to the Sun Belt isn't going to wash your problems away either. Sure UNT is not winning at an acceptable level, but one good coaching hire will turn our fortunes around. Marshall's issues run much deeper and probably can't be fixed.

(02-04-2022 10:38 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 06:26 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 08:16 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Overreaction by the OP who constantly attempts to belittle other schools while pumping up his own. Everyone is aware of his methods except him.

This was the good outcome for a short notice situation for MTSU. Period.

Whatever. I applaud programs in C-USA when they step up and do good things. And, I question things that deserve questioning. There is no agenda for or against any program.

When UNT is crapping the bed, I call them out for it. I've been on Littrell's case for some time now, hoping he would be fired. I'm sure coach Littrell wouldn't accuse me of pumping up his UNT football program. In fact, UNT is stinking it up in recruiting right now. Just another reason Littrell needs to go.

So what exactly is the issue here? I’m sure the Dukes would have agreed to a H&H but MT was in the rare position to be able to demand cash from another G5 instead.

It's just bad optics in my opinion. C-USA needs to be raising their game. I would have scheduled another FCS home game and told Stock he would have to earn his 6 bowl eligible wins with only 11 chances. I guess MT wanted the money more.

Bad optics is playing 2 FCS teams at home versus going on the road vs a transitioning FBS team that’ll count as a FBS game

(02-01-2022 10:42 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 07:16 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:54 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:50 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(02-01-2022 06:34 PM)banker Wrote:  Cusa is now buy games for FCS move ups? That’s odd.

They already had a game cancelled that they're getting 800k for. JMU is paying them 700k. So they're essentially getting 1.5M to go play a winnable makeup game. Who wouldn't do that? MTSU would never get close to making that much for a home game, even against Mizzou. And JMU really needs FBS games on their schedule, especially at home. I'd say it's win/win. They're getting bodybag pay for playing a team they'll be favored against.

Every football team in the history of C-USA 3.0. FBS programs don't play "body-bag" games at FCS programs. Until now.

Does MT need an extra $700K that bad?

Jim counts as an FBS game for everyone

In 2023. Not in 2022 unless all of the rules are changed before September.

They petitioned to have 2022 count as their second year of transition (skipping the first year) based on the COVID year giving them more scholarships than a FCS would normally have, thus making the transition to 85 scholarships easier. It was approved. As long as they can get 5 home games and against FBS teams, and a certain number of total FBS games, then they will count as FBS wins/losses for their opponents, but they are not eligible for a bowl game in 2022.

(02-04-2022 10:38 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 06:26 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 08:16 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Overreaction by the OP who constantly attempts to belittle other schools while pumping up his own. Everyone is aware of his methods except him.

This was the good outcome for a short notice situation for MTSU. Period.

Whatever. I applaud programs in C-USA when they step up and do good things. And, I question things that deserve questioning. There is no agenda for or against any program.

When UNT is crapping the bed, I call them out for it. I've been on Littrell's case for some time now, hoping he would be fired. I'm sure coach Littrell wouldn't accuse me of pumping up his UNT football program. In fact, UNT is stinking it up in recruiting right now. Just another reason Littrell needs to go.

So what exactly is the issue here? I’m sure the Dukes would have agreed to a H&H but MT was in the rare position to be able to demand cash from another G5 instead.

It's just bad optics in my opinion. C-USA needs to be raising their game. I would have scheduled another FCS home game and told Stock he would have to earn his 6 bowl eligible wins with only 11 chances. I guess MT wanted the money more.

I’m not sure I understand. Is it because they took money instead of a return game or because they’re playing there at all?

(02-04-2022 11:00 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  

(02-04-2022 10:38 AM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-03-2022 08:59 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 06:26 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 08:16 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  Overreaction by the OP who constantly attempts to belittle other schools while pumping up his own. Everyone is aware of his methods except him.

This was the good outcome for a short notice situation for MTSU. Period.

Whatever. I applaud programs in C-USA when they step up and do good things. And, I question things that deserve questioning. There is no agenda for or against any program.

When UNT is crapping the bed, I call them out for it. I've been on Littrell's case for some time now, hoping he would be fired. I'm sure coach Littrell wouldn't accuse me of pumping up his UNT football program. In fact, UNT is stinking it up in recruiting right now. Just another reason Littrell needs to go.

So what exactly is the issue here? I’m sure the Dukes would have agreed to a H&H but MT was in the rare position to be able to demand cash from another G5 instead.

It's just bad optics in my opinion. C-USA needs to be raising their game. I would have scheduled another FCS home game and told Stock he would have to earn his 6 bowl eligible wins with only 11 chances. I guess MT wanted the money more.

Bad optics is playing 2 FCS teams at home versus going on the road vs a transitioning FBS team that’ll count as a FBS game

We just have a difference of opinions. But, it's your team so, if y'all are happy that's all that really matters.

(02-03-2022 01:31 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(02-02-2022 11:19 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  Wow. Getting a 1.5 million payout to play JMU. And it counts as a FBS game because of it is absolute brilliance on MTs part. Sounds like a win win to me. Besides you are helping JMU out. That may come back to you someday.

If LA Tech had agreed to play a transitional Georgia St. in Atlanta in 2013 for $500k your fanbase would have stormed the gates.

We gave up a home game to Grambling.