This only days after canceling a 4-game series with Virginia.

This is no doubt due to the move to Conference USA and preparing for an 8-game conference schedule starting in 2023.

https://fbschedules.com/liberty-miami-oh...eries/amp/

I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

(01-06-2022 12:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

Agreed. It's not very easy to get a team from a P5 conference member to come to the home of a G5 member.

(01-06-2022 12:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

UVA, Virginia's #1 University? According to whom?

I'd imagine Virginia Tech would dispute this, especially in football, as average as they've been, they've still beaten UVA.

(01-06-2022 01:37 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 12:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

UVA, Virginia's #1 University? According to whom?

I'd imagine Virginia Tech would dispute this, especially in football, as average as they've been, they've still beaten UVA.

Mix in basketball and it's not even close. VT and Virginia in football are probably even over the last decade as in neither have really done anything noteworthy. I do think maybe changing #1 to premiere might have been a good decision.

(01-06-2022 01:37 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  UVA, Virginia's #1 University? According to whom?

I'd imagine Virginia Tech would dispute this, especially in football, as average as they've been, they've still beaten UVA.

He said #1 university, not number one football program. Academically, it's not close.

And even if you just wanted to go to athletics, Virginia has a whole floor of national championship trophies, VaTech is famously one of only 2 P5 schools that have never won a national title in anything.

In regards to the Liberty-UVA series being cancelled, I do believe UVA wanted to drop the series because in their minds there is nothing to gain from playing the Flames. The "mutual" part had more to do with each school avoiding cancelation penalties/fees.

Liberty is more of a threat to UVA because we are in the same recruiting area. Amazingly, UVA scheduled a series with a Sun Belt school in Coastal Carolina: https://goccusports.com/news/2021/9/27/c...inia.aspx. Things that make you go, 'Hmm'.

(01-06-2022 12:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

I'm quite sure the feeling is mutual with Miami. Potentially losing the longtime series with Cincinnati, OTOH, is another matter.

I am going to agree with DMV 313

Liberty probably dropped a line to each one of it's foes in upcoming years and said "we're joining a league, we need to cancel. Who is amendable to breaking our agreements with no financial penalty"

At this point, you got to take what you can so you are not dishing out millions to break agreements. New Mexico State certainly has even less wiggle room in this regard than Liberty

(01-06-2022 01:37 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 12:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

UVA, Virginia's #1 University? According to whom?

I'd imagine Virginia Tech would dispute this, especially in football, as average as they've been, they've still beaten UVA.

Leave it to a silly Suckbelter to focus on the stuff that DOESN'T MATTER. The point is, it's very difficult to get one of the state's TWO biggest P5 schools to commit to a Home and home. Dumb butt.

I agree with everyone here. Miami is the kind of opponent that makes sense to cancel but Virginia is the opposite. One of the state flagships that is not far away and would have likely set the record for attendance. Not all state flagships will travel to a non-flagship like Liberty. It's disappointing but maybe a basketball series replaces it or something.

(01-06-2022 10:07 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I agree with everyone here. Miami is the kind of opponent that makes sense to cancel but Virginia is the opposite. One of the state flagships that is not far away and would have likely set the record for attendance. Not all state flagships will travel to a non-flagship like Liberty. It's disappointing but maybe a basketball series replaces it or something.

It's my understanding that Virginia was looking to get out of the contract to make room for the new ACC/B1G/Pac-12 Alliance scheduling. Virginia also dropped a series with BYU.

Liberty should/ will get something out of this cancellation. I don't care what UVA wanted or what "spot" they were in-- I have ZERO sympathy for any p5.

(01-06-2022 10:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 10:07 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I agree with everyone here. Miami is the kind of opponent that makes sense to cancel but Virginia is the opposite. One of the state flagships that is not far away and would have likely set the record for attendance. Not all state flagships will travel to a non-flagship like Liberty. It's disappointing but maybe a basketball series replaces it or something.

It's my understanding that Virginia was looking to get out of the contract to make room for the new ACC/B1G/Pac-12 Alliance scheduling. Virginia also dropped a series with BYU.

Part of that could be due to the fact Bronco Mendenhall is no longer the coach in Charlottesville. He played and coached at BYU prior to taking the UVA job.

(01-07-2022 10:18 PM)PAAcocahesAssociation Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 10:58 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 10:07 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I agree with everyone here. Miami is the kind of opponent that makes sense to cancel but Virginia is the opposite. One of the state flagships that is not far away and would have likely set the record for attendance. Not all state flagships will travel to a non-flagship like Liberty. It's disappointing but maybe a basketball series replaces it or something.

It's my understanding that Virginia was looking to get out of the contract to make room for the new ACC/B1G/Pac-12 Alliance scheduling. Virginia also dropped a series with BYU.

Part of that could be due to the fact Bronco Mendenhall is no longer the coach in Charlottesville. He played and coached at BYU prior to taking the UVA job.

Oh, I know. Im very familiar with BYU. Certainly many things in play there as well as BYU's Big XII scheduling.

I definitely didn't like dropping the UVA games from Liberty's schedule. I would've had CUSA work around those & most of our P5 games. That said Liberty's Beat Writer from the Lynchburg News & Advance stated that the series would be rescheduled.

So far LU, UVA, VA TEVH & ODU's Athletic Departments all seem to get along and have scheduled each other quite a bit in football (MBB is a different story probably due to the coaches scheduling & NET rankings). Hopefully, JMU will reciprocate, but they're very arrogant so we'll see how it pans out. IMO, it only makes sense for all involved for all in-state schools to play each other regularly.

(01-09-2022 01:19 AM)LUOrange Wrote:  I definitely didn't like dropping the UVA games from Liberty's schedule. I would've had CUSA work around those & most of our P5 games. That said Liberty's Beat Writer from the Lynchburg News & Advance stated that the series would be rescheduled.

So far LU, UVA, VA TEVH & ODU's Athletic Departments all seem to get along and have scheduled each other quite a bit in football (MBB is a different story probably due to the coaches scheduling & NET rankings). Hopefully, JMU will reciprocate, but they're very arrogant so we'll see how it pans out. IMO, it only makes sense for all involved for all in-state schools to play each other regularly.

Virginia needed to drop the game for Alliance scheduling. They needed to drop Liberty. Liberty accommodated Virginia.

(01-06-2022 02:41 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 01:37 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 12:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

UVA, Virginia's #1 University? According to whom?

I'd imagine Virginia Tech would dispute this, especially in football, as average as they've been, they've still beaten UVA.

Leave it to a silly Suckbelter to focus on the stuff that DOESN'T MATTER. The point is, it's very difficult to get one of the state's TWO biggest P5 schools to commit to a Home and home. Dumb butt.

Not in Virginia it isn't. Ask ODU. They play UVA, Virginia Tech, Liberty, and JMU next year.

Virginia schools have no issue playing one another, P5 or otherwise.

(01-09-2022 03:23 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 02:41 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 01:37 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 12:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

UVA, Virginia's #1 University? According to whom?

I'd imagine Virginia Tech would dispute this, especially in football, as average as they've been, they've still beaten UVA.

Leave it to a silly Suckbelter to focus on the stuff that DOESN'T MATTER. The point is, it's very difficult to get one of the state's TWO biggest P5 schools to commit to a Home and home. Dumb butt.

Not in Virginia it isn't. Ask ODU. They play UVA, Virginia Tech, Liberty, and JMU next year.

Virginia schools have no issue playing one another, P5 or otherwise.

ODU gets VT and UVA because of where they are located. Nothing less, nothing more.

(01-06-2022 01:54 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 01:37 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(01-06-2022 12:49 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  I don't blame Liberty at all for canceling the series with Miami of Ohio. The Flames don't need that now. However, I do question the wisdom of cancelling their HOME and HOME series with UVA, the states undisputed #1 university.

Quote:Last month, we reported that Liberty and the Virginia Cavaliers mutually agreed to cancel a four-game, home-and-home series that was scheduled for Charlottesville, Va., in 2023 and 2030 and Lynchburg, Va., in 2027 and 2029.

UVA, Virginia's #1 University? According to whom?

I'd imagine Virginia Tech would dispute this, especially in football, as average as they've been, they've still beaten UVA.

Mix in basketball and it's not even close. VT and Virginia in football are probably even over the last decade as in neither have really done anything noteworthy. I do think maybe changing #1 to premiere might have been a good decision.

Then some other universities might have something to say.