(12-27-2021 02:19 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 02:13 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  I'm sure that a lot of QBs will be looking at EMU. The job is wide open. Like I said, this could be a plus for EMU. Maybe another Malik Willis is out there.

How in year NINE, within a week does CC not have any idea that both might leave.....Also, Hutch, and Bryant both have graduated, so Hutch wanted to start, and Bryant is looking for a place to prove, he's an NFL player.......Baron May is better then both of them if CC gives him a chance, and doesn't go fishing for another transfer!

Whomever told him he is NFL caliber was lying to him.good but not great.

(12-27-2021 05:05 PM)alum93 Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 02:19 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 02:13 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  I'm sure that a lot of QBs will be looking at EMU. The job is wide open. Like I said, this could be a plus for EMU. Maybe another Malik Willis is out there.

How in year NINE, within a week does CC not have any idea that both might leave.....Also, Hutch, and Bryant both have graduated, so Hutch wanted to start, and Bryant is looking for a place to prove, he's an NFL player.......Baron May is better then both of them if CC gives him a chance, and doesn't go fishing for another transfer!

Whomever told him he is NFL caliber was lying to him.good but not great.

I don't think it's that. More like Canadian league is my guess.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/top-t...-headline/

Cameron Ward would be interesting, but I have to believe he'll get picked up by a Power 5.

A couple of these guys seem injury- or turnover-prone, so I'd say look past them. Slovis is a potential Heisman candidate so will want to go somewhere relatively high profile. That leaves Burmeister, who this article says is likely to end up at a G5 program. I picked him out of the 24/7 transfer portal listing when I posted about him earlier, and am pleasantly surprised to see him show up on here. There are a lot of other G5 programs that need a guy like him. With his combination of size, passing and running skills, and his level of experience, I think he'd be a prize for just about any G5 program.

(12-27-2021 02:21 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Best of luck to him, but I’m not necessarily worried about replacing him. Or Hutchinson for that matter. Both were serviceable, but had pretty noticeable flaws. Neither were on Mike Glass’s level, and I think both can be adequately replaced by either one of the younger guys on the roster or another transfer.

Agreed.

I’m not worried about Bryant leaving; he was limited. My prediction is that we will be very happy with our new QB come Spring practice.

(12-27-2021 05:37 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 02:21 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Best of luck to him, but I’m not necessarily worried about replacing him. Or Hutchinson for that matter. Both were serviceable, but had pretty noticeable flaws. Neither were on Mike Glass’s level, and I think both can be adequately replaced by either one of the younger guys on the roster or another transfer.

Agreed.

I’m not worried about Bryant leaving; he was limited. My prediction is that we will be very happy with our new QB come Spring practice.

Same. I really think this is a blessing, because I didn’t see Bryant improving much next year. This is a chance to upgrade the position. It’s not like our offense was great with him at the helm. In fact it was pretty poor in our last 4 games (bowl game included).

Whoever comes in will have a solid group of WRs and hopefully an improved OL. As Cid has pointed out, there are plenty of transfer options, and I think we will be a relatively attractive destination now that our number 1 and 2 QBs are gone.

(12-27-2021 05:42 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 05:37 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 02:21 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Best of luck to him, but I’m not necessarily worried about replacing him. Or Hutchinson for that matter. Both were serviceable, but had pretty noticeable flaws. Neither were on Mike Glass’s level, and I think both can be adequately replaced by either one of the younger guys on the roster or another transfer.

Agreed.

I’m not worried about Bryant leaving; he was limited. My prediction is that we will be very happy with our new QB come Spring practice.

Same. I really think this is a blessing, because I didn’t see Bryant improving much next year. This is a chance to upgrade the position. It’s not like our offense was great with him at the helm. In fact it was pretty poor in our last 4 games (bowl game included).

Whoever comes in will have a solid group of WRs and hopefully an improved OL. As Cid has pointed out, there are plenty of transfer options, and I think we will be a relatively attractive destination now that our number 1 and 2 QBs are gone.

Find another Mike Glass, or give May an opportunity! But, whoever the transfer QB with CC track record will get the job! Porter, Glass, Bryant, etc......

(12-27-2021 01:34 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 01:31 PM)vannzee Wrote:  Bryant has joined Preston Hutchinson in the transfer portal per 24/7 Sports.

That has been my fear for a few weeks.

I just hope we aren't in an era of "the portal giveth, and the portal taketh away... "

I don't want to bait DP, but there is free agency in the NFL effecting a modest proportion of players.

But this is crazy on steroids. Hell a team could lose 5, 10, 25, 50, etc. of their players to the portal. No one other than players signing new LOI are bound to any team.

Just wait until a sophomore Heisman trophy winner from UofM decides to transfer back home to Ohio and attend OSU.

Just better hope that the game doesn't get ruined...

Four letters caused this, NCAA. A strong leader was needed to establish strict timelines and rules regarding this stuff. Instead Emmert has provided little if any direction with rather opaque rules and uneven enforcement of what is on the books. This transfer situation is chaotic, but Notre Dame lost a coach this season while still legitimately in the CFP playoff hunt, to me, a far greater abomination. The SEC gobbled up the two prize programs from the Big 12, creating a Super Conference. There clearly is no leadership.

College sports compete on the field, but they share a common interest in keeping fans engaged and consequently the money rolling in. The NFL has a strong commissioner that realizes this and has revenue sharing and salary cap guidelines that ensures all participants generate competitive interest. The NBA and MLB, not so much, guess which organization is thriving while the other two are treading water?

I may be "chicken little" here regarding NCAA football, but I do know my exuberance for the sport has been dulled, just as it was for the NBA when LeBron James left Cleveland for Miami in the NBA and all those MLB stars headed to the Yankees and Dodgers.

Remember Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield and Ali? Pro boxing WAS a Marquee sport when it had a singularly powerful authority regulating the sport for the benefit of all. Today there is no central direction, can you name just one professional fighter?

Henry Columbi, a recent TTU transfer, would be a great fit here. Dual threat QB with a ton of experience:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/pl...ry-colombi

Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

(12-27-2021 06:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

Don't know if he is ready, but I really liked his highlights. Lot of potential.

(12-27-2021 06:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

Agree long-term, but not next year. He needs more seasoning, and we need a one-year stopgap.

(12-27-2021 04:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 04:16 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 04:07 PM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  A reminder that Hutchinson CAN come back. Putting your name in the portal doesn't mean you must leave.

Now obviously, it still depends if Hutchinson and the staff want him to return. He probably does leave, but I wouldn't be shocked if he stays put.

This is starting to look like the case where two male suitors chase an elusive female and conduct a spirited contest to see who wins her friendship (sorry if this is starting to sound like a 100 year old movie ) and in the end they both lose her to a third suitor.

I was never sold on having two QBs both of whom had the experience and ability to lead a MAC team.

On paper it sounds great (like having a bunch of different assets and asset classes) but in reality it is risky.

I agree Steve, but Bryant screwed EMU on this one. He could have told Hutch he was leaving and likely Hutch would have stayed. He also stunted the growth of Hutch by taking his spot for a year after Hitch was the starter.

I hope he does go to Cincinnati. Get out of Ypsi and dont come back.

But Steve, Coach Creighton brought him in and made Bryant the starter after a 3 game evaluation. This is not Bryant because he’s playing by the rules. The reality is Hutchinson and Bryant were probably at the same level based on my eye test. One can run better and one is a better passer. It is Coach Creighton who brought another player (Bryant) in to replace his starting QB from 2020. Creighton likes to play around with the QB position (Roback - Bell, Roback - Porter), (Glass - ? Forgot his name) anyway you get my point. The QB position is the most critical in football and although I’m a big CC fan, I’m not sure he should tinker too much with this position since experience plays a huge factor in being successful.

(12-27-2021 06:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 06:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

Agree long-term, but not next year. He needs more seasoning, and we need a one-year stopgap.

I somewhat agree, but next year will be his 3rd year at EMU, right? If true, it would technically be his redshirt sophomore year and I think it would be in our best interest to roll with him if he's good enough with the chance of him being our guy for the next 3 years. that would be awesome.

Still pissed at Bryant. I wonder if Hutch comes back. I wouldn't mind a May vs. Hutch competition

(12-27-2021 05:25 PM)cidbearit Wrote:  https://www.profootballnetwork.com/top-t...-headline/

Cameron Ward would be interesting, but I have to believe he'll get picked up by a Power 5.

A couple of these guys seem injury- or turnover-prone, so I'd say look past them. Slovis is a potential Heisman candidate so will want to go somewhere relatively high profile. That leaves Burmeister, who this article says is likely to end up at a G5 program. I picked him out of the 24/7 transfer portal listing when I posted about him earlier, and am pleasantly surprised to see him show up on here. There are a lot of other G5 programs that need a guy like him. With his combination of size, passing and running skills, and his level of experience, I think he'd be a prize for just about any G5 program.

Cid, I would be curious to get your take on which QB"s have taken any live reps in practices (I understand you can't divulge too much). I'm big on Baron May and think he would be a great fit now that Hutch and Ben are gone. I wonder if he ever got any live reps and how the team responds to him I really hope we don't pick up a portal QB as I think May could do it as he will be a redshirt Sophomore.

(12-27-2021 06:09 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 01:34 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 01:31 PM)vannzee Wrote:  Bryant has joined Preston Hutchinson in the transfer portal per 24/7 Sports.

That has been my fear for a few weeks.

I just hope we aren't in an era of "the portal giveth, and the portal taketh away... "

I don't want to bait DP, but there is free agency in the NFL effecting a modest proportion of players.

But this is crazy on steroids. Hell a team could lose 5, 10, 25, 50, etc. of their players to the portal. No one other than players signing new LOI are bound to any team.

Just wait until a sophomore Heisman trophy winner from UofM decides to transfer back home to Ohio and attend OSU.

Just better hope that the game doesn't get ruined...

Four letters caused this, NCAA. A strong leader was needed to establish strict timelines and rules regarding this stuff. Instead Emmert has provided little if any direction with rather opaque rules and uneven enforcement of what is on the books. This transfer situation is chaotic, but Notre Dame lost a coach this season while still legitimately in the CFP playoff hunt, to me, a far greater abomination. The SEC gobbled up the two prize programs from the Big 12, creating a Super Conference. There clearly is no leadership.

College sports compete on the field, but they share a common interest in keeping fans engaged and consequently the money rolling in. The NFL has a strong commissioner that realizes this and has revenue sharing and salary cap guidelines that ensures all participants generate competitive interest. The NBA and MLB, not so much, guess which organization is thriving while the other two are treading water?

I may be "chicken little" here regarding NCAA football, but I do know my exuberance for the sport has been dulled, just as it was for the NBA when LeBron James left Cleveland for Miami in the NBA and all those MLB stars headed to the Yankees and Dodgers.

Remember Tommy Hearns, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Roberto Duran, Joe Frazier, Larry Holmes, George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield and Ali? Pro boxing WAS a Marquee sport when it had a singularly powerful authority regulating the sport for the benefit of all. Today there is no central direction, can you name just one professional fighter?

coaches started it.

(12-27-2021 06:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

Baron May played in high school about an hour from where I live, he was amazing in high school! I would like him to get the opportunity to win the job, I just don't think CC will do that! He loves transfers, or Juco players more! Look at Porter, Glass, Bryant, etc.......Roback even had to fight for the opportunity after being A 2 year starter! Next years schedule isn't like this past season, so these decisions are critical, or we could be looking at A 5-7 season! I just don't understand how CC didn't have any idea that both might transfer out.........Also, will Darius Boone finally be the starting RB, or will he also transfer........I think Boone also could become another transfer casualty! He started along with Hutchinson, and then this past season was replaced! This kids want to play, or they leave!

(12-27-2021 06:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 06:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

Agree long-term, but not next year. He needs more seasoning, and we need a one-year stopgap.

Not sure that he or Smith needs more seasoning. Hutch came in against WMU having only played once or twice in mop up duty. He was good.

(12-27-2021 08:20 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 06:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

Baron May played in high school about an hour from where I live, he was amazing in high school! I would like him to get the opportunity to win the job, I just don't think CC will do that! He loves transfers, or Juco players more! Look at Porter, Glass, Bryant, etc.......Roback even had to fight for the opportunity after being A 2 year starter! Next years schedule isn't like this past season, so these decisions are critical, or we could be looking at A 5-7 season! I just don't understand how CC didn't have any idea that both might transfer out.........Also, will Darius Boone finally be the starting RB, or will he also transfer........I think Boone also could become another transfer casualty! He started along with Hutchinson, and then this past season was replaced! This kids want to play, or they leave!

I repeat, why do you say CC didn't know this was happening? Just because you were surprised does not mean he was.

Porter only started because Roback was suspended. That didn't last long once when Roback was cleared to play.

(12-27-2021 08:32 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 08:20 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 06:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

Baron May played in high school about an hour from where I live, he was amazing in high school! I would like him to get the opportunity to win the job, I just don't think CC will do that! He loves transfers, or Juco players more! Look at Porter, Glass, Bryant, etc.......Roback even had to fight for the opportunity after being A 2 year starter! Next years schedule isn't like this past season, so these decisions are critical, or we could be looking at A 5-7 season! I just don't understand how CC didn't have any idea that both might transfer out.........Also, will Darius Boone finally be the starting RB, or will he also transfer........I think Boone also could become another transfer casualty! He started along with Hutchinson, and then this past season was replaced! This kids want to play, or they leave!

I repeat, why do you say CC didn't know this was happening? Just because you were surprised does not mean he was.

Porter only started because Roback was suspended. That didn't last long once when Roback was cleared to play.

Nickle, I think Glory Days is saying that CC didn't know because why would Hutch leave if Ben was going to leave. I am assuming Hutch had a conversation with CC and was told that Ben would be the guy moving forward leading to Hutch's departure. Ben pulled a rat move by leaving which screwed us over.

In the end, I think it opens up for Baron to earn the shot. I really hope CC doesn't bring in a portal guy.

(12-27-2021 08:29 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 06:29 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 06:23 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  Baron May time, baby!!!! I like the kid and think he can excel

Agree long-term, but not next year. He needs more seasoning, and we need a one-year stopgap.

Not sure that he or Smith needs more seasoning. Hutch came in against WMU having only played once or twice in mop up duty. He was good.

Next year is going to be tough. A first year starter is going to get us a 4-8/3-9 record, unless he is an absolute stud. And there’s no chatter about Smith or May being studs.

We can find a stud with experience in the portal. I’d obviously love to see Hutch change his mind, but if not we’ll get a lot of interest around the country.