Yea, I saw enough the last two weeks that we are just a bunch of good individuals.

(12-10-2021 10:26 PM)fsquid Wrote:  Yea, I saw enough the last two weeks that we are just a bunch of good individuals.

Even harder when we have the talent and still can’t win. That’s the real problem

When was the last time we lost 6 straight? Serious question because it is highly likely.


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Is it time for Penny to hand it over to Larry Brown & step aside?

(12-11-2021 07:42 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Is it time for Penny to hand it over to Larry Brown & step aside?

Larry came here specifically to work with Penny, not take his job. Its likely he would not even go for that.

(12-03-2021 12:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-03-2021 11:56 AM)3rdgenerationtiger Wrote:  

(12-02-2021 10:10 AM)Stammers Wrote:  To see where we can be by January. Many less turnovers, the offense was better, we got good point guard play and Duren's positioning was night and day compared to the last couple of games. The effort will improve, and the kids will keep learning. We have to figure out a way to win 2 out of our next 4 and take it from there.

I will bet any posters a 1 month ban that we make the NCAA Tournament.

I saw enough yesterday to know that we will be lucky if we are better than 7-6 by January.

You are hysterically negative about everything. Why would this be any different?

Is it still “hysterically negative” if it’s the truth?

(12-06-2021 10:23 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  For Stammers and Senor...I will give you both one opportunity to cancel our bet.

Let me know if either of you is interested.

So if the season is cancelled, the bet is 72 or better in the NET.

(12-21-2021 11:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-06-2021 10:23 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  For Stammers and Senor...I will give you both one opportunity to cancel our bet.

Let me know if either of you is interested.

So if the season is cancelled, the bet is 72 or better in the NET.

Why 72? Do most teams that are 72 in the NET make the NCAA tourney?

You're more of a "stat" guy than I am. Take a look at the NET (ever how long it's been used) and let's see the average of the lowest NET ranking to get an at-large bid. Then, we can discuss.

(12-21-2021 01:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 11:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-06-2021 10:23 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  For Stammers and Senor...I will give you both one opportunity to cancel our bet.

Let me know if either of you is interested.

So if the season is cancelled, the bet is 72 or better in the NET.

Why 72? Do most teams that are 72 in the NET make the NCAA tourney?

You're more of a "stat" guy than I am. Take a look at the NET (ever how long it's been used) and let's see the average of the lowest NET ranking to get an at-large bid. Then, we can discuss.

No need. We can just take your word for it. You argued that Wichita made it last year based on merit.

72 NET
97 BPI
66 Sagarin

So that will be the standard.

(12-21-2021 01:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 01:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 11:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-06-2021 10:23 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  For Stammers and Senor...I will give you both one opportunity to cancel our bet.

Let me know if either of you is interested.

So if the season is cancelled, the bet is 72 or better in the NET.

Why 72? Do most teams that are 72 in the NET make the NCAA tourney?

You're more of a "stat" guy than I am. Take a look at the NET (ever how long it's been used) and let's see the average of the lowest NET ranking to get an at-large bid. Then, we can discuss.

No need. We can just take your word for it. You argued that Wichita made it last year based on merit.

72 NET
97 BPI
66 Sagarin

So that will be the standard.

No. As usual, you are incorrect.

I never said Wichita made it in on merit. I said that they don't look at conferences and decide how many bids to give each one and then put that many in.

If you want to look at the last few years and run the stats on what the NET was for the last 4 at-large bids, then we can discuss amending the bet. If not, we'll just leave it as is. Memphis in the NCAA tourney this year, I'm banned. Memphis not in the NCAA tourney this year, you're banned.

(12-21-2021 02:08 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 01:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 01:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 11:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-06-2021 10:23 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  For Stammers and Senor...I will give you both one opportunity to cancel our bet.

Let me know if either of you is interested.

So if the season is cancelled, the bet is 72 or better in the NET.

Why 72? Do most teams that are 72 in the NET make the NCAA tourney?

You're more of a "stat" guy than I am. Take a look at the NET (ever how long it's been used) and let's see the average of the lowest NET ranking to get an at-large bid. Then, we can discuss.

No need. We can just take your word for it. You argued that Wichita made it last year based on merit.

72 NET
97 BPI
66 Sagarin

So that will be the standard.

No. As usual, you are incorrect.

I never said Wichita made it in on merit. I said that they don't look at conferences and decide how many bids to give each one and then put that many in.

If you want to look at the last few years and run the stats on what the NET was for the last 4 at-large bids, then we can discuss amending the bet. If not, we'll just leave it as is. Memphis in the NCAA tourney this year, I'm banned. Memphis not in the NCAA tourney this year, you're banned.

Ways To Make The Tournament
1) Merit
2) Committee assigns a number of bids to a league
3) Neither A, nor B, Oruvoice mystery

This is so funny, you are arguing against yourself now. If they didn't make it on merit, how else would they have made it?

(12-21-2021 02:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:08 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 01:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 01:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 11:53 AM)Stammers Wrote:  So if the season is cancelled, the bet is 72 or better in the NET.

Why 72? Do most teams that are 72 in the NET make the NCAA tourney?

You're more of a "stat" guy than I am. Take a look at the NET (ever how long it's been used) and let's see the average of the lowest NET ranking to get an at-large bid. Then, we can discuss.

No need. We can just take your word for it. You argued that Wichita made it last year based on merit.

72 NET
97 BPI
66 Sagarin

So that will be the standard.

No. As usual, you are incorrect.

I never said Wichita made it in on merit. I said that they don't look at conferences and decide how many bids to give each one and then put that many in.

If you want to look at the last few years and run the stats on what the NET was for the last 4 at-large bids, then we can discuss amending the bet. If not, we'll just leave it as is. Memphis in the NCAA tourney this year, I'm banned. Memphis not in the NCAA tourney this year, you're banned.

Ways To Make The Tournament
1) Merit
2) Committee assigns a number of bids to a league
3) Neither A, nor B, Oruvoice mystery

This is so funny, you are arguing against yourself now. If they didn't make it on merit, how else would they have made it?

This really gets old. You are either incapable of abstract thought or you're just being obtuse, so you can argue.

Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

That said, I don't believe Wichita merited a bid last year. I don't think we did either.

I would ask you if you understood now, but even if you did, you'd deflect and start another argument.

We'll just leave the bet as originally stated. If you choose to honor or not honor that, then that's on you. Now, go make some croissants or harvest some maple syrup.

(12-21-2021 02:45 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:08 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 01:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 01:50 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Why 72? Do most teams that are 72 in the NET make the NCAA tourney?

You're more of a "stat" guy than I am. Take a look at the NET (ever how long it's been used) and let's see the average of the lowest NET ranking to get an at-large bid. Then, we can discuss.

No need. We can just take your word for it. You argued that Wichita made it last year based on merit.

72 NET
97 BPI
66 Sagarin

So that will be the standard.

No. As usual, you are incorrect.

I never said Wichita made it in on merit. I said that they don't look at conferences and decide how many bids to give each one and then put that many in.

If you want to look at the last few years and run the stats on what the NET was for the last 4 at-large bids, then we can discuss amending the bet. If not, we'll just leave it as is. Memphis in the NCAA tourney this year, I'm banned. Memphis not in the NCAA tourney this year, you're banned.

Ways To Make The Tournament
1) Merit
2) Committee assigns a number of bids to a league
3) Neither A, nor B, Oruvoice mystery

This is so funny, you are arguing against yourself now. If they didn't make it on merit, how else would they have made it?

This really gets old. You are either incapable of abstract thought or you're just being obtuse, so you can argue.

Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

That said, I don't believe Wichita merited a bid last year. I don't think we did either.

I would ask you if you understood now, but even if you did, you'd deflect and start another argument.

We'll just leave the bet as originally stated. If you choose to honor or not honor that, then that's on you. Now, go make some croissants or harvest some maple syrup.

WTF are you talking about? You are the one deflecting with the usual gibberish.

Quote:Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

I agree. We will use the committee's standard; not some weird fairytale of yours. The committee's standard for our conference is NET of 72.

Period

(12-21-2021 03:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:45 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:08 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 01:58 PM)Stammers Wrote:  No need. We can just take your word for it. You argued that Wichita made it last year based on merit.

72 NET
97 BPI
66 Sagarin

So that will be the standard.

No. As usual, you are incorrect.

I never said Wichita made it in on merit. I said that they don't look at conferences and decide how many bids to give each one and then put that many in.

If you want to look at the last few years and run the stats on what the NET was for the last 4 at-large bids, then we can discuss amending the bet. If not, we'll just leave it as is. Memphis in the NCAA tourney this year, I'm banned. Memphis not in the NCAA tourney this year, you're banned.

Ways To Make The Tournament
1) Merit
2) Committee assigns a number of bids to a league
3) Neither A, nor B, Oruvoice mystery

This is so funny, you are arguing against yourself now. If they didn't make it on merit, how else would they have made it?

This really gets old. You are either incapable of abstract thought or you're just being obtuse, so you can argue.

Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

That said, I don't believe Wichita merited a bid last year. I don't think we did either.

I would ask you if you understood now, but even if you did, you'd deflect and start another argument.

We'll just leave the bet as originally stated. If you choose to honor or not honor that, then that's on you. Now, go make some croissants or harvest some maple syrup.

WTF are you talking about? You are the one deflecting with the usual gibberish.

Quote:Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

I agree. We will use the committee's standard; not some weird fairytale of yours. The committee's standard for our conference is NET of 72.

Period

Whatever you say, Francois.

I knew you were going to try to weasel out. Not surprising. You're French. It's in your nature. A leopard can't change its' stripes.

(12-21-2021 03:13 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:45 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:08 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  No. As usual, you are incorrect.

I never said Wichita made it in on merit. I said that they don't look at conferences and decide how many bids to give each one and then put that many in.

If you want to look at the last few years and run the stats on what the NET was for the last 4 at-large bids, then we can discuss amending the bet. If not, we'll just leave it as is. Memphis in the NCAA tourney this year, I'm banned. Memphis not in the NCAA tourney this year, you're banned.

Ways To Make The Tournament
1) Merit
2) Committee assigns a number of bids to a league
3) Neither A, nor B, Oruvoice mystery

This is so funny, you are arguing against yourself now. If they didn't make it on merit, how else would they have made it?

This really gets old. You are either incapable of abstract thought or you're just being obtuse, so you can argue.

Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

That said, I don't believe Wichita merited a bid last year. I don't think we did either.

I would ask you if you understood now, but even if you did, you'd deflect and start another argument.

We'll just leave the bet as originally stated. If you choose to honor or not honor that, then that's on you. Now, go make some croissants or harvest some maple syrup.

WTF are you talking about? You are the one deflecting with the usual gibberish.

Quote:Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

I agree. We will use the committee's standard; not some weird fairytale of yours. The committee's standard for our conference is NET of 72.

Period

Whatever you say, Francois.

I knew you were going to try to weasel out. Not surprising. You're French. It's in your nature. A leopard can't change its' stripes.

NCAA Tournament Committee - Wichita in based on Merit
Oruvoice - According to me, Wichita didn't deserve a bid

Which standard makes more sense, Mensa's?

(12-21-2021 03:19 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:13 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:45 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:34 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Ways To Make The Tournament
1) Merit
2) Committee assigns a number of bids to a league
3) Neither A, nor B, Oruvoice mystery

This is so funny, you are arguing against yourself now. If they didn't make it on merit, how else would they have made it?

This really gets old. You are either incapable of abstract thought or you're just being obtuse, so you can argue.

Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

That said, I don't believe Wichita merited a bid last year. I don't think we did either.

I would ask you if you understood now, but even if you did, you'd deflect and start another argument.

We'll just leave the bet as originally stated. If you choose to honor or not honor that, then that's on you. Now, go make some croissants or harvest some maple syrup.

WTF are you talking about? You are the one deflecting with the usual gibberish.

Quote:Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

I agree. We will use the committee's standard; not some weird fairytale of yours. The committee's standard for our conference is NET of 72.

Period

Whatever you say, Francois.

I knew you were going to try to weasel out. Not surprising. You're French. It's in your nature. A leopard can't change its' stripes.

NCAA Tournament Committee - Wichita in based on Merit
Oruvoice - According to me, Wichita didn't deserve a bid

Which standard makes more sense, Mensa's?

Feel free to keep going with your circle jerk, Menteur Belette.

(12-21-2021 03:24 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:19 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:13 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 02:45 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  This really gets old. You are either incapable of abstract thought or you're just being obtuse, so you can argue.

Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

That said, I don't believe Wichita merited a bid last year. I don't think we did either.

I would ask you if you understood now, but even if you did, you'd deflect and start another argument.

We'll just leave the bet as originally stated. If you choose to honor or not honor that, then that's on you. Now, go make some croissants or harvest some maple syrup.

WTF are you talking about? You are the one deflecting with the usual gibberish.

Quote:Teams make it on merit, based on what the committee thinks is "merit". Period.

I agree. We will use the committee's standard; not some weird fairytale of yours. The committee's standard for our conference is NET of 72.

Period

Whatever you say, Francois.

I knew you were going to try to weasel out. Not surprising. You're French. It's in your nature. A leopard can't change its' stripes.

NCAA Tournament Committee - Wichita in based on Merit
Oruvoice - According to me, Wichita didn't deserve a bid

Which standard makes more sense, Mensa's?

Feel free to keep going with your circle jerk, Menteur Belette.

I propose we use the NCAA Selection Committee's standard. What do you propose?

(12-21-2021 03:29 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:24 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:19 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:13 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  WTF are you talking about? You are the one deflecting with the usual gibberish.


I agree. We will use the committee's standard; not some weird fairytale of yours. The committee's standard for our conference is NET of 72.

Period

Whatever you say, Francois.

I knew you were going to try to weasel out. Not surprising. You're French. It's in your nature. A leopard can't change its' stripes.

NCAA Tournament Committee - Wichita in based on Merit
Oruvoice - According to me, Wichita didn't deserve a bid

Which standard makes more sense, Mensa's?

Feel free to keep going with your circle jerk, Menteur Belette.

I propose we use the NCAA Selection Committee's standard. What do you propose?

The bet was clear. SenorTiger is being a man about it. You are not.

If you want to weasel out, just say so and I'll let you out of it. Your choice. But, I'm done arguing with your attempt to change it.

(12-21-2021 03:44 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:29 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:24 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:19 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(12-21-2021 03:13 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  Whatever you say, Francois.

I knew you were going to try to weasel out. Not surprising. You're French. It's in your nature. A leopard can't change its' stripes.

NCAA Tournament Committee - Wichita in based on Merit
Oruvoice - According to me, Wichita didn't deserve a bid

Which standard makes more sense, Mensa's?

Feel free to keep going with your circle jerk, Menteur Belette.

I propose we use the NCAA Selection Committee's standard. What do you propose?

The bet was clear. SenorTiger is being a man about it. You are not.

If you want to weasel out, just say so and I'll let you out of it. Your choice. But, I'm done arguing with your attempt to change it.

What is the bet?