https://spectatorworld.com/topic/rise-se...ring-left/

Article doesn't put it quite so bluntly, but its true:

"While American news outlets — as well as universities, museums, non-profits, federal government agencies, and most other cultural institutions — have often leaned left, there was a time when the views they advanced were at least well-documented and even thought-provoking. It wasn’t that long ago when readers across the political spectrum looked forward to the latest articles by John Kenneth Galbraith, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Arthur Schlesinger Jr., and Norman Mailer.

That so much of what we now hear from left-leaning sources is not just predictable but sloppily concocted indicates just how much ground their best and brightest have yielded to an intellectually inferior second string. It’s a sad decline and there are three main reasons for it...."

why is water wet?

We'll probably never know.

Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

Why do liberals never address the main debt driving programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, and Social Security when it accounts for four times the amount as defense spending?

Why are those programs going bankrupt? Could it be we have more takers than givers?

(12-13-2021 11:08 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

Why do liberals never address the main debt driving programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, and Social Security when it accounts for four times the amount as defense spending?

Why are those programs going bankrupt? Could it be we have more takers than givers?

Drumroll….. the answer is B. We have more takers than givers and any adjustments to it gives politicians more opportunities to pork barrel. Social system spending always comes with strings. Face facts our government is rotten to the core. My biggest fear growing up was the the common man would start becoming like our government. Newsflash, that time has arrived.

The biggest problem with most Regressives is that they work in insulated jobs. Government, schools, universities or other jobs that state funded. These types have no idea idea how to self sustain themselves. They believe it’s their right for Government to support them. Look no further than the majority of those in the New England states.

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

At least on the police, you are clearly a progressive. Look at the murder rate since the progressive cities have been defunding police.

Do we spend too much on the military and social spending….hell yeah!

Do we need to spend money on military, social welfare stuff….yeah we do.

What has always chafed me isn’t that we spend on this stuff, it’s the amount of waste, graft, etc. that quickly becomes attached to any and every government program.

Why is it that politicians NEVER fix a problem (they always get bigger), and at the Federal level - almost never cut any spending?? We all know that answers, yet nothing ever, ever gets fixed……….

…….it’s why I don’t want more government involvement in anything - they always, always make the problems worse, not better

(12-13-2021 11:26 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:08 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

Why do liberals never address the main debt driving programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, and Social Security when it accounts for four times the amount as defense spending?

Why are those programs going bankrupt? Could it be we have more takers than givers?

Drumroll….. the answer is B. We have more takers than givers and any adjustments to it gives politicians more opportunities to pork barrel. Social system spending always comes with strings. Face facts our government is rotten to the core. My biggest fear growing up was the the common man would start becoming like our government. Newsflash, that time has arrived.

Nailed it!

it all started 55+ yrs ago when we switched from a mfg economy to a service economy … call it wtfe, that’s when it started and why it’s fully embedded …

@muhgreatsociety

#costa

(12-13-2021 11:35 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:26 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:08 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

Why do liberals never address the main debt driving programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, and Social Security when it accounts for four times the amount as defense spending?

Why are those programs going bankrupt? Could it be we have more takers than givers?

Drumroll….. the answer is B. We have more takers than givers and any adjustments to it gives politicians more opportunities to pork barrel. Social system spending always comes with strings. Face facts our government is rotten to the core. My biggest fear growing up was the the common man would start becoming like our government. Newsflash, that time has arrived.

Nailed it!

that’s what happens when ya incentivize sittin’ on ya arse…

#notEnigmatic

(12-13-2021 11:08 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

Why do liberals never address the main debt driving programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, and Social Security when it accounts for four times the amount as defense spending?

Why are those programs going bankrupt? Could it be we have more takers than givers?

Three of those are trust funds paid into by workers separate from income tax and just because the government sticks their hands into the cookie jar doesnt change that.

While I believe we should be making other countries pay a larger share in their own protection and in that we could cut the defense budget. Those 3 programs in bold are totally different when it comes to funding.

I also understand why those in charge of the defense department would rather not push the shared cost to other countries. They might be your friend today but at some point in history they could be against you. So in that regard the defense department doesnt want other defenses...built up.

To answer the question of the OP...

the same type of things we looked at as stupid 30 to 50 years ago are accepted today. That's the agenda of these crazy ideals today. That over time and enough people who think these ideals are crazy die off while the same amount of people grew up with hearing these ideals from birth become "middle america" most of them will be accepted.

(12-13-2021 11:33 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

At least on the police, you are clearly a progressive. Look at the murder rate since the progressive cities have been defunding police.

And the subsequent recent announcements that they will be funding them again...

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

cause if they didn't, I wouldn't have a job?

(12-13-2021 11:48 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:08 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

Why do liberals never address the main debt driving programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, and Social Security when it accounts for four times the amount as defense spending?

Why are those programs going bankrupt? Could it be we have more takers than givers?

Three of those are trust funds paid into by workers separate from income tax and just because the government sticks their hands into the cookie jar doesnt change that.

While I believe we should be making other countries pay a larger share in their own protection and in that we could cut the defense budget. Those 3 programs in bold are totally different when it comes to funding.

I also understand why those in charge of the defense department would rather not push the shared cost to other countries. They might be your friend today but at some point in history they could be against you. So in that regard the defense department doesnt want other defenses...built up.

To answer the question of the OP...

the same type of things we looked at as stupid 30 to 50 years ago are accepted today. That's the agenda of these crazy ideals today. That over time and enough people who think these ideals are crazy die off while the same amount of people grew up with hearing these ideals from birth become "middle america" most of them will be accepted.

hence, “embedded”…

The audience they are speaking to are largely outcasts. It is a coalition stitched together with subcultures that have gripes about how they got a bad deal because of normal, hardworking people. Not sure the hacks delivering the message is particularly stupid. It is the audience.

(12-13-2021 11:56 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  The audience they are speaking to are largely outcasts. It is a coalition stitched together with subcultures that have gripes about how they got a bad deal because of normal, hardworking people.

XACLY!

#byDesign

“lords don’t give a fk about what’s inside the flesh … they simply need the proper amt. to survive the latest concoction before the recipe expires” - stinkfist

(12-13-2021 11:41 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:35 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:26 AM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:08 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

Why do liberals never address the main debt driving programs such as Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment, and Social Security when it accounts for four times the amount as defense spending?

Why are those programs going bankrupt? Could it be we have more takers than givers?

Drumroll….. the answer is B. We have more takers than givers and any adjustments to it gives politicians more opportunities to pork barrel. Social system spending always comes with strings. Face facts our government is rotten to the core. My biggest fear growing up was the the common man would start becoming like our government. Newsflash, that time has arrived.

Nailed it!

that’s what happens when ya incentivize sittin’ on ya arse…

#notEnigmatic

Like a pusher giving a junkie a sample to make them a “customer” for good, the government doles out “goodies” like a pusher to hook “customers” for votes for life. In short-it’s buying votes using taxpayer money. How convenient.

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

are you sure about this? what percentage of GDP do you think we should pay for our military?

on an related note: your assertion about the size of the police and equating them to the military is borderline asinine.

(12-13-2021 11:52 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 11:33 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-13-2021 10:29 AM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Why do conservatives and liberals want to cry that we can’t pay for programs that every major country has but then insist we continue to spend ungodly amounts of money on our military so we can prop up failing governments and bomb the Middle East.

We spend nearly triple the amount that the second highest country spends on their military. Our police force is also the third highest funded military in the world.

The United States essentially employs the two largest armies in the world for no reason

At least on the police, you are clearly a progressive. Look at the murder rate since the progressive cities have been defunding police.

And the subsequent recent announcements that they will be funding them again...

Assuming they can find police willing to work there.