Well....

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(11-16-2021 06:49 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 06:43 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 06:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-16-2021 06:16 PM)hburg Wrote:  Sad that threats of life and violence could potentially send an innocent person to jail.

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If true, that is prima facie case for a mistrial.
Does the judge do it with prejudice?

He should. But who knows?

I think the protests outside the courthouse might be grounds for mistrial --- if so probably not with prejudice. The mistrial for protests would be in line with a faulty issue on venue or change of venue. There is no bad deed by the prosecution to do with prejudice.

To swing the mistrial with prejudice needs an intentional bad action or an egregiously harmful action by the prosecution.

"To swing the mistrial with prejudice needs an intentional bad action or an egregiously harmful action by the prosecution."

I believe that's on the Board, the prosecution did that during the Trial and the Judge called him on it.

Interesting...

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I can only speak for myself, but I couldn’t put my concerns if front of the accused. Couldn’t live with an innocent man going to jail because of me.

(11-16-2021 08:56 PM)banker Wrote:  I can only speak for myself, but I couldn’t put my concerns if front of the accused. Couldn’t live with an innocent man going to jail because of me.

I feel the same way you do. But I’m not so sure if all the members of the jury are like we are. I pray to The Lord God Almighty that they are though.

Im not really believing the link about the two jurors being intimidated.

First, US Marshals (the supposed source) in no way interact with state court jurors.

Second, there is no reason for US Marshals to be present.

Third, the jurors have limited contact -- almost to the point of exclusion. Their only real contact is the bailiff --- typically stationed right outside the door.

Fourth, the jurors, once outside the jury room, are prohibited from speaking to anyone about the case. Not even the bailiff.

Finally, the entire story violates *so* many precepts of how deliberations are performed as to not really be believable.

And, if it did happen, or even potentially, you could bet your right arm someone would bring that action to the judge's attention. If true, the action of getting that information out of the jury room is itself a mistrial issue, right then and there.

If Judge Schroeder hears about this tweet, any judge in any matter, let alone one of this magnitude, would go off the rails. I really hope that the person who tweeted this is nowhere near Kenosha right now --- I dont think the judge in the case would be very nice to him if he has to be hauled into his court to explain the breach.

(11-17-2021 07:47 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Im not really believing the link about the two jurors being intimidated.

First, US Marshals (the supposed source) in no way interact with state court jurors.

Second, there is no reason for US Marshals to be present.

Third, the jurors have limited contact -- almost to the point of exclusion. Their only real contact is the bailiff --- typically stationed right outside the door.

Fourth, the jurors, once outside the jury room, are prohibited from speaking to anyone about the case. Not even the bailiff.

Finally, the entire story violates *so* many precepts of how deliberations are performed as to not really be believable.

And, if it did happen, or even potentially, you could bet your right arm someone would bring that action to the judge's attention. If true, the action of getting that information out of the jury room is itself a mistrial issue, right then and there.

If Judge Schroeder hears about this tweet, any judge in any matter, let alone one of this magnitude, would go off the rails. I really hope that the person who tweeted this is nowhere near Kenosha right now --- I dont think the judge in the case would be very nice to him if he has to be hauled into his court to explain the breach.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/...6504238087

the jury isn’t sequestered ...

ALL YOU DO TO ME IS TALK TALK

(11-17-2021 07:47 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Im not really believing the link about the two jurors being intimidated.

First, US Marshals (the supposed source) in no way interact with state court jurors.

Second, there is no reason for US Marshals to be present.

Third, the jurors have limited contact -- almost to the point of exclusion. Their only real contact is the bailiff --- typically stationed right outside the door.

Fourth, the jurors, once outside the jury room, are prohibited from speaking to anyone about the case. Not even the bailiff.

Finally, the entire story violates *so* many precepts of how deliberations are performed as to not really be believable.

And, if it did happen, or even potentially, you could bet your right arm someone would bring that action to the judge's attention. If true, the action of getting that information out of the jury room is itself a mistrial issue, right then and there.

If Judge Schroeder hears about this tweet, any judge in any matter, let alone one of this magnitude, would go off the rails. I really hope that the person who tweeted this is nowhere near Kenosha right now --- I dont think the judge in the case would be very nice to him if he has to be hauled into his court to explain the breach.

From what ive seen of this guy, he has really good sources.

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(11-17-2021 09:20 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-17-2021 07:47 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Im not really believing the link about the two jurors being intimidated.

First, US Marshals (the supposed source) in no way interact with state court jurors.

Second, there is no reason for US Marshals to be present.

Third, the jurors have limited contact -- almost to the point of exclusion. Their only real contact is the bailiff --- typically stationed right outside the door.

Fourth, the jurors, once outside the jury room, are prohibited from speaking to anyone about the case. Not even the bailiff.

Finally, the entire story violates *so* many precepts of how deliberations are performed as to not really be believable.

And, if it did happen, or even potentially, you could bet your right arm someone would bring that action to the judge's attention. If true, the action of getting that information out of the jury room is itself a mistrial issue, right then and there.

If Judge Schroeder hears about this tweet, any judge in any matter, let alone one of this magnitude, would go off the rails. I really hope that the person who tweeted this is nowhere near Kenosha right now --- I dont think the judge in the case would be very nice to him if he has to be hauled into his court to explain the breach.

From what ive seen of this guy, he has really good sources.

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That's true

Going to have to start installing one-way glass around juries if this **** keeps up.

YEAH! My 11,000th post! WOOT! WOOT!

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This has become a **** show...

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(11-17-2021 09:20 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-17-2021 07:47 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Im not really believing the link about the two jurors being intimidated.

First, US Marshals (the supposed source) in no way interact with state court jurors.

Second, there is no reason for US Marshals to be present.

Third, the jurors have limited contact -- almost to the point of exclusion. Their only real contact is the bailiff --- typically stationed right outside the door.

Fourth, the jurors, once outside the jury room, are prohibited from speaking to anyone about the case. Not even the bailiff.

Finally, the entire story violates *so* many precepts of how deliberations are performed as to not really be believable.

And, if it did happen, or even potentially, you could bet your right arm someone would bring that action to the judge's attention. If true, the action of getting that information out of the jury room is itself a mistrial issue, right then and there.

If Judge Schroeder hears about this tweet, any judge in any matter, let alone one of this magnitude, would go off the rails. I really hope that the person who tweeted this is nowhere near Kenosha right now --- I dont think the judge in the case would be very nice to him if he has to be hauled into his court to explain the breach.

From what ive seen of this guy, he has really good sources.

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Agreed, he typically does have accurate sourcing.

It's the contents of this one and how it goes against a metric ton of how these things typically operate that has me skeptical.

(11-17-2021 11:16 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  This has become a **** show...

Schiff Show, Schiff Show!!

Get it right.

(11-17-2021 11:22 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(11-17-2021 09:20 AM)maximus Wrote:  

(11-17-2021 07:47 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Im not really believing the link about the two jurors being intimidated.

First, US Marshals (the supposed source) in no way interact with state court jurors.

Second, there is no reason for US Marshals to be present.

Third, the jurors have limited contact -- almost to the point of exclusion. Their only real contact is the bailiff --- typically stationed right outside the door.

Fourth, the jurors, once outside the jury room, are prohibited from speaking to anyone about the case. Not even the bailiff.

Finally, the entire story violates *so* many precepts of how deliberations are performed as to not really be believable.

And, if it did happen, or even potentially, you could bet your right arm someone would bring that action to the judge's attention. If true, the action of getting that information out of the jury room is itself a mistrial issue, right then and there.

If Judge Schroeder hears about this tweet, any judge in any matter, let alone one of this magnitude, would go off the rails. I really hope that the person who tweeted this is nowhere near Kenosha right now --- I dont think the judge in the case would be very nice to him if he has to be hauled into his court to explain the breach.

From what ive seen of this guy, he has really good sources.

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Agreed, he typically does have accurate sourcing.

It's the contents of this one and how it goes against a metric ton of how these things typically operate that has me skeptical.

Going by another post my take is you are assuming this was heard from the court house and in that case I agree with you. But these people are going home and no matter if the judges tells them not to take about it....

its human nature to do just that and type of talk often gets out...truth and lies

The part throwing me is this was suppose to have came from the US Marshall and I cant see how they are involved in a state case

(11-17-2021 11:50 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Idiots... idiots everywhere.

I wonder how Joy would react in court if she shot someone under similar circumstance then had to describe the entire flow of events in front of a jury?

Would she be dancing and singing about it in some happy, ecstatic tone?

(11-17-2021 11:52 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  

(11-17-2021 11:50 AM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Idiots... idiots everywhere.

I’ll take words that rhyme with “hunt” for $500, Alex