(10-30-2021 01:10 PM)odu09 Wrote:  While I feel bad for some of the fans of leftover schools, I'm rooting for the dissolve of the conference so we can get in here in 2022. After dealing with years of incompetence, it would be somewhat satisfying (not sure if that's the right word) to see it all burn up in flames. Horrible decision after horrible decision led CUSA to be in the situation its in.

this...plus fcs to fbs when the fcs is fbs ready is very different that fcs to fbs when the fcs is clearly not ready.

CUSA taking fcs programs that are not ready to survive is not a good survival strategy.

I hope CUSA dies but I do feel for the stranded fans. I expect something better than the a survival plan will come about for the prepared programs.

(10-31-2021 11:33 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(10-30-2021 01:10 PM)odu09 Wrote:  While I feel bad for some of the fans of leftover schools, I'm rooting for the dissolve of the conference so we can get in here in 2022. After dealing with years of incompetence, it would be somewhat satisfying (not sure if that's the right word) to see it all burn up in flames. Horrible decision after horrible decision led CUSA to be in the situation its in.

this...plus fcs to fbs when the fcs is fbs ready is very different that fcs to fbs when the fcs is clearly not ready.

CUSA taking fcs programs that are not ready to survive is not a good survival strategy.

I hope CUSA dies but I do feel for the stranded fans. I expect something better than the a survival plan will come about for the prepared programs.

Is JMU starting their transition period next season??? It’s still 2 years right? So by 2024 y’all should be full FBS and bowl eligible.

(10-31-2021 11:48 AM)Usajags Wrote:  

(10-31-2021 11:33 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(10-30-2021 01:10 PM)odu09 Wrote:  While I feel bad for some of the fans of leftover schools, I'm rooting for the dissolve of the conference so we can get in here in 2022. After dealing with years of incompetence, it would be somewhat satisfying (not sure if that's the right word) to see it all burn up in flames. Horrible decision after horrible decision led CUSA to be in the situation its in.

this...plus fcs to fbs when the fcs is fbs ready is very different that fcs to fbs when the fcs is clearly not ready.

CUSA taking fcs programs that are not ready to survive is not a good survival strategy.

I hope CUSA dies but I do feel for the stranded fans. I expect something better than the a survival plan will come about for the prepared programs.

Is JMU starting their transition period next season??? It’s still 2 years right? So by 2024 y’all should be full FBS and bowl eligible.

I don't know...

There are people claiming JMU may be able to get a push because of the number of scholly's due to the covid year.

After the formality legal stuff is past, transition will become a #1 topic and more known.

I'd like to see as many SBC teams as possible on schedule next year.

MAC moving closer to adding MTSU and WKU.

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/14...93282?s=20

(10-31-2021 03:36 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  MAC moving closer to adding MTSU and WKU.

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/14...93282?s=20

I dunno if I would say they’re moving closer…I think after the discussions and it goes toward all agreeing to pursue expansion THEN I think you say they are moving closer

(10-31-2021 03:36 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  MAC moving closer to adding MTSU and WKU.

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/14...93282?s=20

This is like watching your neighbor across the street move out without any notice over a few days. It goes all quiet for a few days as you mess with some of the stuff they left you, and then about a week later you hear a strange noise from the house and discover they left their pet Bulldog tied up in the backyard.

I mean, that's cruelty to animals, and you debate calling the Humane Society, but instead you cut him loose and call animal control to report a viscous dog in your area who threatened your children the other day... (I mean its not YOUR DOG, so who cares, right) Anyway, Animal Control comes by and drags the bulldog away, and you imagine its going to be taken in by some rescue center in Southern Louisiana, but also realize it could be headed for that great big milkbone in the sky, and you are strangely happy about that

I mean, you never liked that dog

(10-31-2021 03:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-31-2021 03:36 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  MAC moving closer to adding MTSU and WKU.

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/14...93282?s=20

This is like watching your neighbor across the street move out without any notice over a few days. It goes all quiet for a few days as you mess with some of the stuff they left you, and then about a week later you hear a strange noise from the house and discover they left their pet Bulldog tied up in the backyard.

I mean, that's cruelty to animals, and you debate calling the Humane Society, but instead you cut him loose and call animal control to report a viscous dog in your area who threatened your children the other day... (I mean its not YOUR DOG, so who cares, right) Anyway, Animal Control comes by and drags the bulldog away, and you imagine its going to be taken in by some rescue center in Southern Louisiana, but also realize it could be headed for that great big milkbone in the sky, and you are strangely happy about that

I mean, you never liked that dog

That’s…quite the analogy lol

C-USA is going to have to go the non FBS route. They can make their list (UMass FB only, UConn FB only, Liberty, NMSU, Jax State, Tarleton State, SHSU, Kennesaw, etc.). The problem is that SEVERAL are going to say no, and it's not going to be enough to get to the minimum number to be an FBS conference.

I don't want to see C-USA completely fall apart as an FBS league. I truly do not think this is a good thing. Other than La. Tech, the schools we, as Sun Belt fans, generally don't like all got a life raft, anyway, to the AAC and likely to the MAC. I mean, what do we have against UTEP? And FIU is just kind of... there, with like 6 fans. There's no emotion to have one way or another for them.

But I simply do not see an FBS path forward. Time to go to Plan B: UTA, Little Rock, ASUN/WAC/SLC/OVC schools. Create a new conference practically from scratch with tens of millions in exit fees.

(10-31-2021 03:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-31-2021 03:36 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  MAC moving closer to adding MTSU and WKU.

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/14...93282?s=20

This is like watching your neighbor across the street move out without any notice over a few days. It goes all quiet for a few days as you mess with some of the stuff they left you, and then about a week later you hear a strange noise from the house and discover they left their pet Bulldog tied up in the backyard.

I mean, that's cruelty to animals, and you debate calling the Humane Society, but instead you cut him loose and call animal control to report a viscous dog in your area who threatened your children the other day... (I mean its not YOUR DOG, so who cares, right) Anyway, Animal Control comes by and drags the bulldog away, and you imagine its going to be taken in by some rescue center in Southern Louisiana, but also realize it could be headed for that great big milkbone in the sky, and you are strangely happy about that

I mean, you never liked that dog

That was beautiful! LOL!

I feel for the 5 leftover schools. MTSU and WKU fit in the MAC. That might un-stagnate the MAC.

https://twitter.com/chrisvannini/status/...14913?s=21

(10-31-2021 04:16 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  C-USA is going to have to go the non FBS route. They can make their list (UMass FB only, UConn FB only, Liberty, NMSU, Jax State, Tarleton State, SHSU, Kennesaw, etc.). The problem is that SEVERAL are going to say no, and it's not going to be enough to get to the minimum number to be an FBS conference.

I don't want to see C-USA completely fall apart as an FBS league. I truly do not think this is a good thing. Other than La. Tech, the schools we, as Sun Belt fans, generally don't like all got a life raft, anyway, to the AAC and likely to the MAC. I mean, what do we have against UTEP? And FIU is just kind of... there, with like 6 fans. There's no emotion to have one way or another for them.

But I simply do not see an FBS path forward. Time to go to Plan B: UTA, Little Rock, ASUN/WAC/SLC/OVC schools. Create a new conference practically from scratch with tens of millions in exit fees.

If they lose WKU and Middle Tenn., then the only route open to them is to canibalize the WAC, thereby killing that conference’s planned return to FBS . . ..

The “new” CUSA will hardly look like an FBS conference, and the WAC might as well give up on a return to FBS. Effectively, two conferences get killed here, not just CUSA.

(10-31-2021 04:33 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  

(10-31-2021 03:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-31-2021 03:36 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  MAC moving closer to adding MTSU and WKU.

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/14...93282?s=20

This is like watching your neighbor across the street move out without any notice over a few days. It goes all quiet for a few days as you mess with some of the stuff they left you, and then about a week later you hear a strange noise from the house and discover they left their pet Bulldog tied up in the backyard.

I mean, that's cruelty to animals, and you debate calling the Humane Society, but instead you cut him loose and call animal control to report a viscous dog in your area who threatened your children the other day... (I mean its not YOUR DOG, so who cares, right) Anyway, Animal Control comes by and drags the bulldog away, and you imagine its going to be taken in by some rescue center in Southern Louisiana, but also realize it could be headed for that great big milkbone in the sky, and you are strangely happy about that

I mean, you never liked that dog

That was beautiful! LOL!

I feel for the 5 leftover schools. MTSU and WKU fit in the MAC. That might un-stagnate the MAC.

We've used an "across the street" analogy to refer to CUSA ever since the last round of realignment and the formation of the current SBC. Its very possible we may be considering the AAC board as the "neighbors across the street" in a year or two.

Let's just assume that hypothetically
the MAC takes WKU and MTSU giving that conference 14 members, which equals the memberships of the Sun Belt and the American, the MWC takes UTEP and Louisiana Tech.
Why LT ? They were former conference mates with Hawaii, Boise, Fresno, San Jose St, and San Diego St in the WAC already.
That leaves FIU as the only remaining school. At that point, if they aren't picked up with the SBC and another FCS like Sam Houston State to balance it out at 16, then they go independent or drop down to FCS.

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(10-31-2021 04:47 PM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  Let's just assume that hypothetically
the MAC takes WKU and MTSU giving that conference 14 members, which equals the memberships of the Sun Belt and the American, the MWC takes UTEP and Louisiana Tech.
Why LT ? They were former conference mates with Hawaii, Boise, Fresno, San Jose St, and San Diego St in the WAC already.
That leaves FIU as the only remaining school. At that point, if they aren't picked up with the SBC and another FCS like Sam Houston State to balance it out at 16, then they go independent or drop down to FCS.

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There's really not that much benefit to them dropping to FCS. They'd still have considerable travel, only now with a media deal that makes CUSA look like the SEC. Independent scheduling is tricky in the late season but being in Miami must help. A more-easily reachable version of Hawaii.

(10-31-2021 03:36 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  MAC moving closer to adding MTSU and WKU.

https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/14...93282?s=20

So Long, Farewell, Auf Wiedersehen, Goodbye!!

Geography wise the MAC needed WKU and Marshall and we would’ve gotten MTSU, but I’m glad we got Marshall out of those 3.

(10-31-2021 04:47 PM)DawggoneEagle Wrote:  Let's just assume that hypothetically
the MAC takes WKU and MTSU giving that conference 14 members, which equals the memberships of the Sun Belt and the American, the MWC takes UTEP and Louisiana Tech.
Why LT ? They were former conference mates with Hawaii, Boise, Fresno, San Jose St, and San Diego St in the WAC already.
That leaves FIU as the only remaining school. At that point, if they aren't picked up with the SBC and another FCS like Sam Houston State to balance it out at 16, then they go independent or drop down to FCS.

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The MWC already took a look at what's out there and has stated they're not expanding. La Tech doesn't bring the value for creating an island. UTEP fits geographically but hasn't done anything to earn a spot.

(10-31-2021 06:01 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  Geography wise the MAC needed WKU and Marshall and we would’ve gotten MTSU, but I’m glad we got Marshall out of those 3.

Arkstfan has Pointed it out multiple times-the MAC/Marshall have had two stints with each and it has ended with Marshall seeking better opportunities. They wouldn’t have had gone back

(10-31-2021 07:40 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote:  

(10-31-2021 06:01 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  Geography wise the MAC needed WKU and Marshall and we would’ve gotten MTSU, but I’m glad we got Marshall out of those 3.

Arkstfan has Pointed it out multiple times-the MAC/Marshall have had two stints with each and it has ended with Marshall seeking better opportunities. They wouldn’t have had gone back

Wasn't the first time Marshall left because they were kicked out d/t NCAA infractions, rather than MU leaving for better opportunities? This was before the 1970 crash.

(10-31-2021 06:01 PM)stAteNation Wrote:  Geography wise the MAC needed WKU and Marshall and we would’ve gotten MTSU, but I’m glad we got Marshall out of those 3.

Marshall has done the MAC twice now (1953-1969, 1997-2004) and the third time isn't the charm. When Marshall entered the MAC in 1997, not one of those schools wanted us. And when we took a CUSA invite in 2003 things got even more nasty.

We had a Miami OH fan make a website goodbyemarshall.com, The site was set up so MAC fans could write haiku's about us. That site actually stayed on line until the summer of 2010.

I hope the MAC expands with WKU and MTSU. I have no i'll will for either of them.