(10-16-2021 01:49 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(10-15-2021 06:11 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Also, someone mentioned that the stadium had been offered to the university and we said no thanks. But it might have been the guy who told us the 2020 football season was cancelled, we were a lock for the B12, and that Keilon Brown was backup qb. So who knows, lol.

I remember reading about this several years ago. They wanted the university to assume all maintenance, operational costs, etc. The offer was for the stadium only and did not include the land it sits on. Hard pass.

So offload all the problems of an aging stadium to the university? Would have been a sweet deal for the City.

(10-16-2021 12:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  We tried the complete silence thing last 2 go arounds.. neither worked. Why not try to advertise what we are doing this time?

The problem is, when people with real information show up, the geniuses here run them off.

(10-16-2021 04:14 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 12:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  We tried the complete silence thing last 2 go arounds.. neither worked. Why not try to advertise what we are doing this time?

The problem is, when people with real information show up, the geniuses here run them off.

You mean to tell me you don’t prefer listening to a guy talking to S&M prostitutes and getting the word from the street, or a guy advocating a wax museum to an actual ambassador ?

(10-16-2021 04:16 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 04:14 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 12:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  We tried the complete silence thing last 2 go arounds.. neither worked. Why not try to advertise what we are doing this time?

The problem is, when people with real information show up, the geniuses here run them off.

You mean to tell me you don’t prefer listening to a guy talking to S&M prostitutes and getting the word from the street, or a guy advocating a wax museum to an actual ambassador ?

Sounds legit...

(10-16-2021 01:23 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 12:33 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  

(10-15-2021 01:58 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  This is a major decision for the university that justifies some amount of foot-dragging.

I expect that the university knows whatever gap exists between the LB and B12 expectations/requirements. That must have been passed along to the city and its architect. The city will come back with a proposal to renovate the LB to that standard, it will cost $X, and they will want the university to cover most of that, likely by signing a long-term lease at a higher annual rent. If the price tag is high enough, the recommendation may be to build an entirely new stadium. The university will then have to weigh the long-term cost/benefit of the city proposal(s) with building an OCS. The higher the city proposal, the better the OCS looks. If the city proposes a big renovation that costs the university, say, $4-5M more per year in rent, but satisfies B12 requirements, that may be acceptable. But paying $10-12M more in rent to finance a LB replacement at the same site? No...might as well borrow the $200M+ and build the OCS.

Also in play here is what happens to the B12. The video mentions how the P12 plays in all this. What if the B12 gets reduced to an AAC+ situation, with per-school payouts not much better than we're getting now. It doesn't make sense to take on $10-12M of rent or debt for a new stadium just to get into a gutted B12 that would only give us $5M or so more in revenues, and would probably have to invite us anyway (regardless of stadium) just to plug holes left by departing schools. We've got to know what it is we're buying our way into and what value that will have.

As mentioned these guys are close to the Big 12 leadership and the Big 12 has been in conversation with their TV partners since August so if they're ultra positive about the Big 12's TV deal they're getting it directly from Big 12 leadership and TV industry people. And the numbers they're giving for the Big 12 is comparable to the ACC's which makes sense since it was reported by The Athletic that BYU alone gives the Big 12 an additional 2 million dollars per member per year. The 3 AAC schools bring in major value and Boise and Memphis should as well, especially in a Tier 3 rights package. It will be light-years ahead of the AAC.

I am not disputing that they are not connected--maybe they are......but we have 2 that post here that claim to be connected (MOLASSES and his HERO---NAMEDROPPER/NARCISSIST)--and neither have been right about anything PERIOD --I don't thnk EVER-------j/s

The lowest link on the food chain, communist with bottom of the barrel personal standards, who won't pay $5 more for tickets complaining about info that didn't pan out.

80,000 seat stadium guy bitching about someone who has given $500,000 to the program. Hilarious.

(10-16-2021 04:16 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 04:14 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 12:38 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  We tried the complete silence thing last 2 go arounds.. neither worked. Why not try to advertise what we are doing this time?

The problem is, when people with real information show up, the geniuses here run them off.

You mean to tell me you don’t prefer listening to a guy talking to S&M prostitutes and getting the word from the street, or a guy advocating a wax museum to an actual ambassador ?

I don’t mind the occasional subplot.

If we don't get an OCS now we will never have one.

(10-16-2021 05:18 PM)Claw Wrote:  If we don't get an OCS now we will never have one.

Never is a very long time. Until the people of Memphis are willing to support big time college football (when GameDay isn't in town) there won't be any new stadiums being built.

(10-16-2021 05:05 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 01:23 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 12:33 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  

(10-15-2021 01:58 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  This is a major decision for the university that justifies some amount of foot-dragging.

I expect that the university knows whatever gap exists between the LB and B12 expectations/requirements. That must have been passed along to the city and its architect. The city will come back with a proposal to renovate the LB to that standard, it will cost $X, and they will want the university to cover most of that, likely by signing a long-term lease at a higher annual rent. If the price tag is high enough, the recommendation may be to build an entirely new stadium. The university will then have to weigh the long-term cost/benefit of the city proposal(s) with building an OCS. The higher the city proposal, the better the OCS looks. If the city proposes a big renovation that costs the university, say, $4-5M more per year in rent, but satisfies B12 requirements, that may be acceptable. But paying $10-12M more in rent to finance a LB replacement at the same site? No...might as well borrow the $200M+ and build the OCS.

Also in play here is what happens to the B12. The video mentions how the P12 plays in all this. What if the B12 gets reduced to an AAC+ situation, with per-school payouts not much better than we're getting now. It doesn't make sense to take on $10-12M of rent or debt for a new stadium just to get into a gutted B12 that would only give us $5M or so more in revenues, and would probably have to invite us anyway (regardless of stadium) just to plug holes left by departing schools. We've got to know what it is we're buying our way into and what value that will have.

As mentioned these guys are close to the Big 12 leadership and the Big 12 has been in conversation with their TV partners since August so if they're ultra positive about the Big 12's TV deal they're getting it directly from Big 12 leadership and TV industry people. And the numbers they're giving for the Big 12 is comparable to the ACC's which makes sense since it was reported by The Athletic that BYU alone gives the Big 12 an additional 2 million dollars per member per year. The 3 AAC schools bring in major value and Boise and Memphis should as well, especially in a Tier 3 rights package. It will be light-years ahead of the AAC.

I am not disputing that they are not connected--maybe they are......but we have 2 that post here that claim to be connected (MOLASSES and his HERO---NAMEDROPPER/NARCISSIST)--and neither have been right about anything PERIOD --I don't thnk EVER-------j/s

The lowest link on the food chain, communist with bottom of the barrel personal standards, who won't pay $5 more for tickets complaining about info that didn't pan out.

80,000 seat stadium guy bitching about someone who has given $500,000 to the program. Hilarious.

AGAIN---the 80K was sarcasm ---it should actually be 90k

IKE's hearing we're waiting on a better deal

(10-16-2021 08:57 PM)memphisike Wrote:  IKE's hearing we're waiting on a better deal

Of course you say no to the back alley stick up Strickland is trying to pull. And you don’t trot out an OCS threat unless the threat is real and doable. We can’t afford to fail on an OCS move, we can’t afford status quo, we can’t afford to wait too long to be decisive.

(10-16-2021 08:57 PM)memphisike Wrote:  IKE's hearing we're waiting on a better deal

BIG10--ACC ? LOL

(10-16-2021 06:12 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 05:18 PM)Claw Wrote:  If we don't get an OCS now we will never have one.

Never is a very long time. Until the people of Memphis are willing to support big time college football (when GameDay isn't in town) there won't be any new stadiums being built.

Big time college football is played on college campuses, and they’re all around us. Great game day atmospheres and lots of fun. Let’s give them that right here in Memphis and find out what they’ll support. I think they’d like it. A lot.

IKE's laying low but he can say
BIG,ACC AND 12

(10-16-2021 06:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 05:05 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 01:23 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 12:33 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  

(10-15-2021 01:58 PM)CRM114 Wrote:  This is a major decision for the university that justifies some amount of foot-dragging.

I expect that the university knows whatever gap exists between the LB and B12 expectations/requirements. That must have been passed along to the city and its architect. The city will come back with a proposal to renovate the LB to that standard, it will cost $X, and they will want the university to cover most of that, likely by signing a long-term lease at a higher annual rent. If the price tag is high enough, the recommendation may be to build an entirely new stadium. The university will then have to weigh the long-term cost/benefit of the city proposal(s) with building an OCS. The higher the city proposal, the better the OCS looks. If the city proposes a big renovation that costs the university, say, $4-5M more per year in rent, but satisfies B12 requirements, that may be acceptable. But paying $10-12M more in rent to finance a LB replacement at the same site? No...might as well borrow the $200M+ and build the OCS.

Also in play here is what happens to the B12. The video mentions how the P12 plays in all this. What if the B12 gets reduced to an AAC+ situation, with per-school payouts not much better than we're getting now. It doesn't make sense to take on $10-12M of rent or debt for a new stadium just to get into a gutted B12 that would only give us $5M or so more in revenues, and would probably have to invite us anyway (regardless of stadium) just to plug holes left by departing schools. We've got to know what it is we're buying our way into and what value that will have.

As mentioned these guys are close to the Big 12 leadership and the Big 12 has been in conversation with their TV partners since August so if they're ultra positive about the Big 12's TV deal they're getting it directly from Big 12 leadership and TV industry people. And the numbers they're giving for the Big 12 is comparable to the ACC's which makes sense since it was reported by The Athletic that BYU alone gives the Big 12 an additional 2 million dollars per member per year. The 3 AAC schools bring in major value and Boise and Memphis should as well, especially in a Tier 3 rights package. It will be light-years ahead of the AAC.

I am not disputing that they are not connected--maybe they are......but we have 2 that post here that claim to be connected (MOLASSES and his HERO---NAMEDROPPER/NARCISSIST)--and neither have been right about anything PERIOD --I don't thnk EVER-------j/s

The lowest link on the food chain, communist with bottom of the barrel personal standards, who won't pay $5 more for tickets complaining about info that didn't pan out.

80,000 seat stadium guy bitching about someone who has given $500,000 to the program. Hilarious.

AGAIN---the 80K was sarcasm ---it should actually be 90k

You know you look like a clown so now you are trying to deny it. That is how your bottom of the barrel brain works in all your posts. 80,000 seats, and won't pay $5 more for seats in a $200 million OCS

Typical Jethro.

(10-16-2021 10:45 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 06:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 05:05 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 01:23 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 12:33 PM)CatsClaw Wrote:  As mentioned these guys are close to the Big 12 leadership and the Big 12 has been in conversation with their TV partners since August so if they're ultra positive about the Big 12's TV deal they're getting it directly from Big 12 leadership and TV industry people. And the numbers they're giving for the Big 12 is comparable to the ACC's which makes sense since it was reported by The Athletic that BYU alone gives the Big 12 an additional 2 million dollars per member per year. The 3 AAC schools bring in major value and Boise and Memphis should as well, especially in a Tier 3 rights package. It will be light-years ahead of the AAC.

I am not disputing that they are not connected--maybe they are......but we have 2 that post here that claim to be connected (MOLASSES and his HERO---NAMEDROPPER/NARCISSIST)--and neither have been right about anything PERIOD --I don't thnk EVER-------j/s

The lowest link on the food chain, communist with bottom of the barrel personal standards, who won't pay $5 more for tickets complaining about info that didn't pan out.

80,000 seat stadium guy bitching about someone who has given $500,000 to the program. Hilarious.

AGAIN---the 80K was sarcasm ---it should actually be 90k

You know you look like a clown so now you are trying to deny it. That is how your bottom of the barrel brain works in all your posts. 80,000 seats, and won't pay $5 more for seats in a $200 million OCS

Typical Jethro.

The 90k was sarcasm---it really should be 90,001

#2 on everybody's list only behind Cincinnati----and I'm the one that looks like a clown LOL------everyone on this site knows that the 80k was sarcasm---even you MOLASSES

(10-16-2021 06:12 PM)Keeper Wrote:  

(10-16-2021 05:18 PM)Claw Wrote:  If we don't get an OCS now we will never have one.

Never is a very long time. Until the people of Memphis are willing to support big time college football (when GameDay isn't in town) there won't be any new stadiums being built.

Thank God someone with inside knowledge has spoken. Having given it as a declarative fact, you have put the issue to rest.

(10-16-2021 10:23 PM)memphisike Wrote:  IKE's laying low but he can say
BIG,ACC AND 12

IKE - my sources are saying the same thing.
When we obtain AAU status, the BIG will come calling.

IKE's saying the BIG will be involved, the street tells Ike Virginia will be headed to the BIG and probably
North Carolina. Think about it.

(10-17-2021 04:44 PM)memphisike Wrote:  IKE's saying the BIG will be involved, the street tells Ike Virginia will be headed to the BIG and probably
North Carolina. Think about it.

Holding my breath, bro.