(10-02-2021 04:04 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 02:22 PM)flash3200 Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 01:33 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 01:19 PM)flash3200 Wrote:  Progressives should be all over this. Mere millionaires will be excluded from the laundering benefits of art as only billionaires will be able to afford the offshore companies and numerous attorney-client privilege relationships required to defeat such regulations.

I think both conservatives AND liberals should be all over money laundering. Not sure why the conversation has dovetailed into one party being more interested in this than the other…

It actually looks like Congress has already started to act on this: https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2021/09/...-oversight

It was a joke!

Point taken - hard to tell on this board.

Actually, a lot of truth in that original statement. efforts to get money from "wealthy" people seems to travel down the economic ladder much faster and farther than traveling up. I think the definition of "wealthy" needs retooling. "Millionaire" is so 1920s.

(10-02-2021 03:33 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  So 93 now believes that ‘I think you are intentionally dense’ is not insulting.

I said, “it seems like you are being intentionally dense…”

I don’t think that is an insult and your misrepresentation of my quote was subtle and yet important.

Quote:All I have to read from this smarmy tool……

But stating that a statement of his is snotty is. Icing on top.

Kind of rolls hand in hand with this dude’s statements about others’ subjective opinions on art.

Seriously? At that again? You literally have no shame. LOL.

Quote:My guess is that the biggest difference between you and me is that I have the stones to readily admit to an ad hom or an insult. You on the other hand seemingly cannot. Saying to you are a hypocritical douche, even if accurate, is such. You stating to someone that they are 'intentionally dense' is as well. Even if '[you] think [I] am intentionally dense' conveys the same thing. Planting an 'I think' in front of 'you are a hypocritical douche' doesn't magically change it, pardner.

Still can’t bring yourself to accurately quote what I said? Congratulations on admitting to your ad homs.

Quote:Here’s a test. Go to Drexlers BBQ, pick any large burly African American, tap him on the shoulder, and tell him you think he is intentionally dense. Tell us how that test turns out for ya there, sparky.

Maybe your bevy of African American friends might retrieve some of your teeth from the floor.

Weirdly specific scenario. Why African-Americans? Strange. You seem to be troubled.

(10-02-2021 06:35 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 03:33 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  So 93 now believes that ‘I think you are intentionally dense’ is not insulting.

I said, “it seems like you are being intentionally dense…”

I don’t think that is an insult and your misrepresentation of my quote was subtle and yet important.

Quote:All I have to read from this smarmy tool……

But stating that a statement of his is snotty is. Icing on top.

Kind of rolls hand in hand with this dude’s statements about others’ subjective opinions on art.

Seriously? At that again? You literally have no shame. LOL.

Quote:My guess is that the biggest difference between you and me is that I have the stones to readily admit to an ad hom or an insult. You on the other hand seemingly cannot. Saying to you are a hypocritical douche, even if accurate, is such. You stating to someone that they are 'intentionally dense' is as well. Even if '[you] think [I] am intentionally dense' conveys the same thing. Planting an 'I think' in front of 'you are a hypocritical douche' doesn't magically change it, pardner.

Still can’t bring yourself to accurately quote what I said? Congratulations on admitting to your ad homs.

Quote:Here’s a test. Go to Drexlers BBQ, pick any large burly African American, tap him on the shoulder, and tell him you think he is intentionally dense. Tell us how that test turns out for ya there, sparky.

Maybe your bevy of African American friends might retrieve some of your teeth from the floor.

Weirdly specific scenario. Why African-Americans? Strange. You seem to be troubled.

Whatever sparky. Telling someone you think they are intentionally dense isn't an ad hom.

Yet a comment about a 'snotty statement' is.

Kind of all the earmarks of a hypocritical douche. Congrats.

As to the specific place, try that anywhere sparky. Tell us how it turns out. But true to form with the poster you constantly engage as, nice attempt at a deflection onto an immaterial point.

An arrogant asshat who berates others for a subjective opinion coupled with the above douchenozzle example and shallow deflection is quite the awesome combo you got going there. <slow clap>. You did that without any special effort?

(10-02-2021 07:17 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 06:35 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 03:33 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  So 93 now believes that ‘I think you are intentionally dense’ is not insulting.

I said, “it seems like you are being intentionally dense…”

I don’t think that is an insult and your misrepresentation of my quote was subtle and yet important.

Quote:All I have to read from this smarmy tool……

But stating that a statement of his is snotty is. Icing on top.

Kind of rolls hand in hand with this dude’s statements about others’ subjective opinions on art.

Seriously? At that again? You literally have no shame. LOL.

Quote:My guess is that the biggest difference between you and me is that I have the stones to readily admit to an ad hom or an insult. You on the other hand seemingly cannot. Saying to you are a hypocritical douche, even if accurate, is such. You stating to someone that they are 'intentionally dense' is as well. Even if '[you] think [I] am intentionally dense' conveys the same thing. Planting an 'I think' in front of 'you are a hypocritical douche' doesn't magically change it, pardner.

Still can’t bring yourself to accurately quote what I said? Congratulations on admitting to your ad homs.

Quote:Here’s a test. Go to Drexlers BBQ, pick any large burly African American, tap him on the shoulder, and tell him you think he is intentionally dense. Tell us how that test turns out for ya there, sparky.

Maybe your bevy of African American friends might retrieve some of your teeth from the floor.

Weirdly specific scenario. Why African-Americans? Strange. You seem to be troubled.

Whatever sparky. Telling someone you think they are intentionally dense isn't an ad hom.

LOL After all that you still can’t bring yourself to get the quote accurate.

Quote:Yet a comment about a 'snotty statement' is.

As usual, you were the one bringing up ad Homs (not me). I only responded to you to point out your perpetual hypocrisy regarding that subject.

Quote:Kind of all the earmarks of a hypocritical douche. Congrats.

*yawn* Does typing this stuff make you feel better?

Quote:As to the specific place, try that anywhere sparky. Tell us how it turns out. But true to form with the poster you constantly engage as, nice attempt at a deflection onto an immaterial point.

Let’s agree that it was a weirdly specific fantasy involving “large, burly African-American men” and quickly move on.

Quote:An arrogant asshat who berates others for a subjective opinion coupled with the above douchenozzle example and shallow deflection is quite the awesome combo you got going there. <slow clap>. You did that without any special effort?

Berates others about a subjective opinion about art? LOL that I have addressed that misinformation like six times and yet you continue to ignore it. Also, I don’t think I was berating anybody. That seems to be your area.

Sparky, not a spit of difference between your statement and mine. Keep dancing your tango on that pinhead.

Coming from the dude that incessantly preaches to everyone else how they should conduct themselves on top of it.

And yes, your comment on OO opinion when typed as 'work', when you state it equivalent to another's vaccine is certainly such a beratement of a subjective opinion.

Your failure to recognize either of those issues seems to point to some very deep issues within you. I've told you my opinion... arrogant douche... seems to fit the bill.

And yes, I do have the balls and self-discerning view to be honest with myself and others that my comments are rude and impolite. A self awareness that the preaching ******* of the board seems to lack. 'Nuff said.

I've wasted enough time on a non-self aware asshat such as yourself at this juncture and on this issue. But I am sure that your self-serving yip will follow regardless. That will kind of fit with the hypocritical douche preacher type that you seemingly seek yo fill for us here on this board.

You state 'you don't think' you were berating. I'm sure you don't. You *could* have said 'I disagree'. Or 'others disagree'. Those aren't insulting ir berating. Go look at what you responded with there, Poindexter. And how you responded.

Same goes for your 'intentionally dense' ****. But you are too fing self-serving to note that. Just fing amazing.

Toodles for awhile preacher boy.

(10-03-2021 09:52 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Sparky, not a spit of difference between your statement and mine. Keep dancing your tango on that pinhead.

Of course there is a difference. There is a difference between saying "I think you are being stupid here" and "I think you are stupid". I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

Quote:Coming from the dude that incessantly preaches to everyone else how they should conduct themselves on top of it.

I mean... you are literally the one on this board who calls out ad homs not me.

Quote:And yes, your comment on OO opinion when typed as 'work', when you state it equivalent to another's vaccine is certainly such a beratement of a subjective opinion.

LOL. Please continue to stretch the definition of "to berate" to its never-seen-before-limits. It's amazing to watch.

Quote:Your failure to recognize either of those issues seems to point to some very deep issues within you. I've told you my opinion... arrogant douche... seems to fit the bill.

Most def. You got me, bro!

Quote:And yes, I do have the balls and self-discerning view to be honest with myself and others that my comments are rude and impolite. A self awareness that the preaching ******* of the board seems to lack. 'Nuff said.

I have definitely been rude and impolite on this board (I try to avoid doing so in general but I don't always stay above the fray like I would like). Does this fact help you calm down?

Quote:I've wasted enough time on a non-self aware asshat such as yourself at this juncture and on this issue. But I am sure that your self-serving yip will follow regardless. That will kind of fit with the hypocritical douche preacher type that you seemingly seek yo fill for us here on this board.

*yawn*

Quote:You state 'you don't think' you were berating. I'm sure you don't. You *could* have said 'I disagree'. Or 'others disagree'. Those aren't insulting ir berating. Go look at what you responded with there, Poindexter. And how you responded.

It is literally unbelievable that this has you so up-in-arms given your long history of behavior on this board. I'm shocked that the irony of this escapes you.

Easy to settle. Just go up to anybody and tell them are being dense. Tell your wife she is being dense. Tell your neighbor. Tell the clerk at the 7-11. Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over. Tell it to the judge. See how many laugh.

Don’t have to be a big black dude or a white supremacist biker or … whatever.

Try telling that to 10 random people.

(10-03-2021 11:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Easy to settle. Just go up to anybody and tell them are being dense. Tell your wife she is being dense. Tell your neighbor. Tell the clerk at the 7-11. Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over. Tell it to the judge. See how many laugh.

Don’t have to be a big black dude or a white supremacist biker or … whatever.

Try telling that to 10 random people.

"Just go up to anybody and tell them it seems they are being [intentionally]dense."

Tell your wife she it seems she [intentionally] is dense.

Tell your neighbor [it seems she is being intentionally dense].

Tell the clerk at the 7-11 [it seems he is being intentionally dense].

Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over [it seems he is being intentionally dense].

Tell [it to] the judge [it seems she is being intentionally dense].

When you put "it seems" in front of 'you are intentionally dense' it magically changes it from being a sanctimonious prick statement to copacetic.

Glad to know that one from Mr 93.

And the goober seemingly thinks that, or argues that.

Here is one. "It seems 93 is a hypocritical, sanctimonious douche." Makes an otherwise rude ad hom into hunky dory in 93-ville. Glad to know that.

If I wanted to keep all my teeth, I would do none of what you suggest above.
Nor what I denote as the change below what I quote from yours. Even when 93 tells us all is copacetic.

But even to the portions above, here is preacher boy: "You do understand that me saying "I think you are being intentionally dense" is not an insult?"

Great, I think 93 is a sanctimonious, hypocritical pud. Apparently in his eyes, the 'I think' is also blessed cover for insults. Or, maybe the pud thinks 'intentionally dense' isnt insulting.

Either way, amazing shortness of a viewpoint. I'd say 'intentionally dense' since it may not be an insult. Maybe I'll say 'ignorant' since that is the same thing, and not an insult either. Or, maybe the dude is simply doing the 'it cant be an insult at any cost, since that would make 93 the first one to lob an insult, and lordy, that can never be the case'.

If the birdbrain really thinks "I think you are being intentionally dense" is not an insult, the dude from 93-ville simply doesnt subscribe to the real world. Most places Ive been in my life, if one were to say that, one would get a busted nose and maybe a tooth or two knocked out. And justifiably so. Maybe I need to move to 93-ville.

(10-03-2021 11:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Easy to settle. Just go up to anybody and tell them are being dense. Tell your wife she is being dense. Tell your neighbor. Tell the clerk at the 7-11. Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over. Tell it to the judge. See how many laugh.

Don’t have to be a big black dude or a white supremacist biker or … whatever.

Try telling that to 10 random people.

I tried asking my GF "if I were to say you are being dense, would you consider that an insult".

Her reply, boiled down to one word, was "yes".

Remind me to never tell her she is being dense. That look was terrifying.

(10-03-2021 03:45 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 11:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Easy to settle. Just go up to anybody and tell them are being dense. Tell your wife she is being dense. Tell your neighbor. Tell the clerk at the 7-11. Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over. Tell it to the judge. See how many laugh.

Don’t have to be a big black dude or a white supremacist biker or … whatever.

Try telling that to 10 random people.

"Just go up to anybody and tell them it seems they are being [intentionally]dense."

Tell your wife she it seems she [intentionally] is dense.

Tell your neighbor [it seems she is being intentionally dense].

Tell the clerk at the 7-11 [it seems he is being intentionally dense].

Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over [it seems he is being intentionally dense].

Tell [it to] the judge [it seems she is being intentionally dense].


When you put "it seems" in front of 'you are intentionally dense' it magically changes it from being a sanctimonious prick statement to copacetic.

I'm pretty sure I could say that to somebody when debating an issue without expecting to have my teeth knocked out.

Quote:Glad to know that one from Mr 93.

And the goober seemingly thinks that, or argues that.

Here is one. "It seems 93 is a hypocritical, sanctimonious douche." Makes an otherwise rude ad hom into hunky dory in 93-ville. Glad to know that.

If I wanted to keep all my teeth, I would do none of what you suggest above.
Nor what I denote as the change below what I quote from yours. Even when 93 tells us all is copacetic.

But even to the portions above, here is preacher boy: "You do understand that me saying "I think you are being intentionally dense" is not an insult?"

Great, I think 93 is a sanctimonious, hypocritical pud. Apparently in his eyes, the 'I think' is also blessed cover for insults. Or, maybe the pud thinks 'intentionally dense' isnt insulting.

*yawn* I'm not going to deeply engage you when you're like this.

Quote:Either way, amazing shortness of a viewpoint. I'd say 'intentionally dense' since it may not be an insult. Maybe I'll say 'ignorant' since that is the same thing, and not an insult either. Or, maybe the dude is simply doing the 'it cant be an insult at any cost, since that would make 93 the first one to lob an insult, and lordy, that can never be the case'.

If the birdbrain really thinks "I think you are being intentionally dense" is not an insult, the dude from 93-ville simply doesnt subscribe to the real world. Most places Ive been in my life, if one were to say that, one would get a busted nose and maybe a tooth or two knocked out. And justifiably so. Maybe I need to move to 93-ville.

Agree to disagree about the level of insult that the bolded carries. We clearly are not going to agree on this but I at least you got to fire off dozens of (actual) ad homs in my direction. So congratulations I guess?

Signing off now. Have a good night everybody. Sweet dreams, Tanq. I hope those dreams include some large, burly barbeque dudes!

(10-03-2021 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 11:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Easy to settle. Just go up to anybody and tell them are being dense. Tell your wife she is being dense. Tell your neighbor. Tell the clerk at the 7-11. Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over. Tell it to the judge. See how many laugh.

Don’t have to be a big black dude or a white supremacist biker or … whatever.

Try telling that to 10 random people.

I tried asking my GF "if I were to say you are being dense, would you consider that an insult".

Her reply, boiled down to one word, was "yes".

Remind me to never tell her she is being dense. That look was terrifying.

To me, saying "you are being intentionally dense" is different than saying "you are being dense".

But again... we are clearly not going to agree on this.

(10-03-2021 04:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 11:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Easy to settle. Just go up to anybody and tell them are being dense. Tell your wife she is being dense. Tell your neighbor. Tell the clerk at the 7-11. Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over. Tell it to the judge. See how many laugh.

Don’t have to be a big black dude or a white supremacist biker or … whatever.

Try telling that to 10 random people.

I tried asking my GF "if I were to say you are being dense, would you consider that an insult".

Her reply, boiled down to one word, was "yes".

Remind me to never tell her she is being dense. That look was terrifying.

To me, saying "you are being intentionally dense" is different than saying "you are being dense".

But again... we are clearly not going to agree on this.

Decided to open this, as it was clearly a response to my report of my one person informal survey of responses.

I did not say "intentionally", either to you or to her.

But if you were saying that to me, or I to you, or I to her, the "intentionally" would clearly be implied, as none of us is actually dense. In fact, I doubt any of us would say that to a person who was actually mentally challenged.

I'm struck at this point that sparky says 'well, let's agree to disagree".

Perhaps if Sparky had taken that express method when denoting how wrong anyone was in a subjective viewpoint counter to his, we wouldn't be here.

Even later in time, maybe if sparky had done just that instead of 'you are dense' that he put forth, we wouldn't be wallowing here.

Only now does sparky note that 'perhaps we should agree to disagree' --- that is now after sparky already unloaded the 'you are dense', and after he got a wad in his panties about air quotes around 'work', and went off on the author of the air quotes around 'work'.

The combination of those initial responses, followed only much later by the 'lets agree to disagree' strikes me as amazingly shallow.

Word of advice sparky --- next time *start* with the position of 'let's agree to disagree'. That is *instead* of berating another subjective viewpoint about the use of air quotes denoting a viewpoint. That is, also, beginning another facet of that dialog with multiple invocations of 'you are dense'.

Just saying that starting out with your current note of 'lets agree to disagree' might be more productive. Right, sparky?

Typically, one who is in control of their ego and arrogance can actually start out with 'lets agree to disagree'. Sparky could not. Multiple times.

One whose arrogance and ego controls them starts out getting their panties in a wad over the *horrible* slight of air-quoting 'work' as it pertains to subjective opinion. As Sparky did.

Those whose arrogance and eqo controls them starts out with the default 'you are dense' (and all of the fing dance hall derivatives he slops forth subsequent as shallow excuse) mode. As Sparky did. Twice.

Those whose arrogance and ego controls them doesnt take the hint from another person who is stating 'whoa there sparky, you are going into ad hom territory', and might take that to back away -- instead of doubling down. As Sparky did.

The last point, perhaps especially so when the person throwing out the 'you are dense' crapola happens to be one who regularly berates others for being rude, or insulting. As Sparky did. And as Sparky continuously does.

Interestingly, it seems Sparky abjectly failed the first test, and adroitly passed all that followed. Imagine that.

And now, and only now, does sparky get into the mode to whine 'lets simply agree to disagree'. That is after berating one for the temerity of using air quotes around 'work', and after throwing out the 'you are dense' crap multiple times. *Now* he says, after being told how fing rude that is, 'well lets agree to disagree'.

All in all, Id say to the above -- what an 'interesting' choice or order of actions and reactions for sparky to pursue.

Seriously good 'tool' points for sparky in that chain of events.

(10-03-2021 06:07 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I'm struck at this point that sparky says 'well, let's agree to disagree".

Perhaps if Sparky had taken that express method when denoting how wrong anyone was in a subjective viewpoint counter to his, we wouldn't be here.

Even later in time, maybe if sparky had done just that instead of 'you are dense' that he put forth, we wouldn't be wallowing here.

Only now does sparky note that 'perhaps we should agree to disagree' --- that is now after sparky already unloaded the 'you are dense', and after he got a wad in his panties about air quotes around 'work', and went off on the author of the air quotes around 'work'.

The combination of those initial responses, followed only much later by the 'lets agree to disagree' strikes me as amazingly shallow.

Word of advice sparky --- next time *start* with the position of 'let's agree to disagree'. That is *instead* of berating another subjective viewpoint about the use of air quotes denoting a viewpoint. That is, also, beginning another facet of that dialog with multiple invocations of 'you are dense'.

Just saying that starting out with your current note of 'lets agree to disagree' might be more productive. Right, sparky?

Typically, one who is in control of their ego and arrogance can actually start out with 'lets agree to disagree'. Sparky could not. Multiple times.

One whose arrogance and ego controls them starts out getting their panties in a wad over the *horrible* slight of air-quoting 'work' as it pertains to subjective opinion. As Sparky did.

Those whose arrogance and eqo controls them starts out with the default 'you are dense' (and all of the fing dance hall derivatives he slops forth subsequent as shallow excuse) mode. As Sparky did. Twice.

Those whose arrogance and ego controls them doesnt take the hint from another person who is stating 'whoa there sparky, you are going into ad hom territory', and might take that to back away -- instead of doubling down. As Sparky did.

The last point, perhaps especially so when the person throwing out the 'you are dense' crapola happens to be one who regularly berates others for being rude, or insulting. As Sparky did. And as Sparky continuously does.

Interestingly, it seems Sparky abjectly failed the first test, and adroitly passed all that followed. Imagine that.

And now, and only now, does sparky get into the mode to whine 'lets simply agree to disagree'. That is after berating one for the temerity of using air quotes around 'work', and after throwing out the 'you are dense' crap multiple times. *Now* he says, after being told how fing rude that is, 'well lets agree to disagree'.

All in all, Id say to the above -- what an 'interesting' choice or order of actions and reactions for sparky to pursue.

Seriously good 'tool' points for sparky in that chain of events.

Got it. It's valuable (albeit somewhat lengthy) advice about how how NOT to be perceived as being rude while posting. It's great to have such sage words on this topic coming from somebody who always goes to great lengths to be reasonable and never offensive on this board!

I will definitely strive to do as you say and not as you do. You're like those "WWJD" dudes who wear the bracelet out and about while actually behaving in a manner that is not at all like "WJWD".

It's weird that you call others "preacher" on this board but "WWJD" bracelet-wearers often seem to lack introspection.

(10-03-2021 05:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 04:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 11:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Easy to settle. Just go up to anybody and tell them are being dense. Tell your wife she is being dense. Tell your neighbor. Tell the clerk at the 7-11. Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over. Tell it to the judge. See how many laugh.

Don’t have to be a big black dude or a white supremacist biker or … whatever.

Try telling that to 10 random people.

I tried asking my GF "if I were to say you are being dense, would you consider that an insult".

Her reply, boiled down to one word, was "yes".

Remind me to never tell her she is being dense. That look was terrifying.

To me, saying "you are being intentionally dense" is different than saying "you are being dense".

But again... we are clearly not going to agree on this.

Decided to open this, as it was clearly a response to my report of my one person informal survey of responses.

I did not say "intentionally", either to you or to her.

Not sure what you're getting at here. I was the one who said "intentionally dense".

Quote:But if you were saying that to me, or I to you, or I to her, the "intentionally" would clearly be implied, as none of us is actually dense. In fact, I doubt any of us would say that to a person who was actually mentally challenged.

Huh? I don't understand the bolded. What does mentally challenged have to do with it?

(10-03-2021 11:26 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 06:07 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I'm struck at this point that sparky says 'well, let's agree to disagree".

Perhaps if Sparky had taken that express method when denoting how wrong anyone was in a subjective viewpoint counter to his, we wouldn't be here.

Even later in time, maybe if sparky had done just that instead of 'you are dense' that he put forth, we wouldn't be wallowing here.

Only now does sparky note that 'perhaps we should agree to disagree' --- that is now after sparky already unloaded the 'you are dense', and after he got a wad in his panties about air quotes around 'work', and went off on the author of the air quotes around 'work'.

The combination of those initial responses, followed only much later by the 'lets agree to disagree' strikes me as amazingly shallow.

Word of advice sparky --- next time *start* with the position of 'let's agree to disagree'. That is *instead* of berating another subjective viewpoint about the use of air quotes denoting a viewpoint. That is, also, beginning another facet of that dialog with multiple invocations of 'you are dense'.

Just saying that starting out with your current note of 'lets agree to disagree' might be more productive. Right, sparky?

Typically, one who is in control of their ego and arrogance can actually start out with 'lets agree to disagree'. Sparky could not. Multiple times.

One whose arrogance and ego controls them starts out getting their panties in a wad over the *horrible* slight of air-quoting 'work' as it pertains to subjective opinion. As Sparky did.

Those whose arrogance and eqo controls them starts out with the default 'you are dense' (and all of the fing dance hall derivatives he slops forth subsequent as shallow excuse) mode. As Sparky did. Twice.

Those whose arrogance and ego controls them doesnt take the hint from another person who is stating 'whoa there sparky, you are going into ad hom territory', and might take that to back away -- instead of doubling down. As Sparky did.

The last point, perhaps especially so when the person throwing out the 'you are dense' crapola happens to be one who regularly berates others for being rude, or insulting. As Sparky did. And as Sparky continuously does.

Interestingly, it seems Sparky abjectly failed the first test, and adroitly passed all that followed. Imagine that.

And now, and only now, does sparky get into the mode to whine 'lets simply agree to disagree'. That is after berating one for the temerity of using air quotes around 'work', and after throwing out the 'you are dense' crap multiple times. *Now* he says, after being told how fing rude that is, 'well lets agree to disagree'.

All in all, Id say to the above -- what an 'interesting' choice or order of actions and reactions for sparky to pursue.

Seriously good 'tool' points for sparky in that chain of events.

Got it. It's valuable (albeit somewhat lengthy) advice about how how NOT to be perceived as being rude while posting. It's great to have such sage words on this topic coming from somebody who always goes to great lengths to be reasonable and never offensive on this board!

And, I'm not the one that led the charge down the path here.

Quote:I will definitely strive to do as you say and not as you do. You're like those "WWJD" dudes who wear the bracelet out and about while actually behaving in a manner that is not at all like "WJWD"

.

And, I'm not the one that led the charge down the path here.

Quote:It's weird thagt you call others "preacher" on this board but "WWJD" bracelet-wearers often seem to lack introspection.

And, I'm not the one that led the charge down here.

Look how animated preachy boy gets at the common sense suggestion of maybe *starting* with the "lets agree to disagree" as opposed to the explicit ripping of someone else's subjective opinion, and the jumping straight into 'you are dense'.

You complain again of my rudeness and insulting, but the singular fact is that this round you *could have* run with 'lets agreeto disagree', but instead *you* chose, multiple times, to respond in the manner of an absolute tool.

Now you attempt to whadabout with past behavior. Lolz. Absolutely precious there Mr Preacher.

Apparently your choice to be a prick in this instance is my fault. Double precious.

Please keep going.

(10-03-2021 11:28 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 05:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 04:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 11:17 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Easy to settle. Just go up to anybody and tell them are being dense. Tell your wife she is being dense. Tell your neighbor. Tell the clerk at the 7-11. Tell the traffic cop who pulls you over. Tell it to the judge. See how many laugh.

Don’t have to be a big black dude or a white supremacist biker or … whatever.

Try telling that to 10 random people.

I tried asking my GF "if I were to say you are being dense, would you consider that an insult".

Her reply, boiled down to one word, was "yes".

Remind me to never tell her she is being dense. That look was terrifying.

To me, saying "you are being intentionally dense" is different than saying "you are being dense".

But again... we are clearly not going to agree on this.

Decided to open this, as it was clearly a response to my report of my one person informal survey of responses.

I did not say "intentionally", either to you or to her.

Not sure what you're getting at here. I was the one who said "intentionally dense".

Quote:But if you were saying that to me, or I to you, or I to her, the "intentionally" would clearly be implied, as none of us is actually dense. In fact, I doubt any of us would say that to a person who was actually mentally challenged.

Huh? I don't understand the bolded. What does mentally challenged have to do with it?

Good thing you didn't call someone a moron - the histrionics would have likely caused the hosting website's server to meltdown!

(10-04-2021 08:01 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 11:28 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 05:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 04:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I tried asking my GF "if I were to say you are being dense, would you consider that an insult".

Her reply, boiled down to one word, was "yes".

Remind me to never tell her she is being dense. That look was terrifying.

To me, saying "you are being intentionally dense" is different than saying "you are being dense".

But again... we are clearly not going to agree on this.

Decided to open this, as it was clearly a response to my report of my one person informal survey of responses.

I did not say "intentionally", either to you or to her.

Not sure what you're getting at here. I was the one who said "intentionally dense".

Quote:But if you were saying that to me, or I to you, or I to her, the "intentionally" would clearly be implied, as none of us is actually dense. In fact, I doubt any of us would say that to a person who was actually mentally challenged.

Huh? I don't understand the bolded. What does mentally challenged have to do with it?

Good thing you didn't call someone a moron - the histrionics would have likely caused the hosting website's server to meltdown!

dense = slow, retarded, mentally challenged. try to picture in your mind somebody who is actually dense, as opposed to intentionally dense.

As for your use of "moron" -that word once had a definition, in terms of IQ. Are you saying that you would call a moron a moron to his face? I did not you to be that uncaring.

moron

(10-04-2021 08:58 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-04-2021 08:01 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 11:28 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 05:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 04:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  To me, saying "you are being intentionally dense" is different than saying "you are being dense".

But again... we are clearly not going to agree on this.

Decided to open this, as it was clearly a response to my report of my one person informal survey of responses.

I did not say "intentionally", either to you or to her.

Not sure what you're getting at here. I was the one who said "intentionally dense".

Quote:But if you were saying that to me, or I to you, or I to her, the "intentionally" would clearly be implied, as none of us is actually dense. In fact, I doubt any of us would say that to a person who was actually mentally challenged.

Huh? I don't understand the bolded. What does mentally challenged have to do with it?

Good thing you didn't call someone a moron - the histrionics would have likely caused the hosting website's server to meltdown!

dense = slow, retarded, mentally challenged. try to picture in your mind somebody who is actually dense, as opposed to intentionally dense.

And calling someone a moron isn't at least equally as lowbrow as what you're saying 93 did?

What do you think about someone calling another person on this board a moron?

I mean, that's a totally hypothetical situation and not one that actually occurred recently...

(10-04-2021 09:03 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-04-2021 08:58 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-04-2021 08:01 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 11:28 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(10-03-2021 05:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  Decided to open this, as it was clearly a response to my report of my one person informal survey of responses.

I did not say "intentionally", either to you or to her.

Not sure what you're getting at here. I was the one who said "intentionally dense".

Quote:But if you were saying that to me, or I to you, or I to her, the "intentionally" would clearly be implied, as none of us is actually dense. In fact, I doubt any of us would say that to a person who was actually mentally challenged.

Huh? I don't understand the bolded. What does mentally challenged have to do with it?

Good thing you didn't call someone a moron - the histrionics would have likely caused the hosting website's server to meltdown!

dense = slow, retarded, mentally challenged. try to picture in your mind somebody who is actually dense, as opposed to intentionally dense.

And calling someone a moron isn't at least equally as lowbrow as what you're saying 93 did?

What do you think about someone calling another person on this board a moron?

I mean, that's a totally hypothetical situation and not one that actually occurred recently...

What did 93 do? I thought he said to Tanq, "you are being dense", which I think implies being intentionally dense, since it is clear Tanq is not dense. But let's hear your take on what the argument is all about.

I learned over 65 years ago not to use the word "moron", from my mother. she said it was impolite. There was a genre of joke popular back then call "little moron' jokes. Ten years after that, we called the same jokes "Aggie" jokes.

In any case, calling somebody dense is, IMO, offensive. Notice the I, and the M, and especially the O? But I can see where the usage would be attractive in these discussions here on the Quad. It's the reason we have the emoji. which I am tempted to use right now.

I think I shall go back to watching the density fights rather than being a participant.