Theres an answer that is way easier than what is being posted everywhere.
The AAC and MWC merger.
MWC bylaws state that any conference structural changes must have a 75% vote. 8 out of 12 must vote to to make any substantial change... like dissolving the conference.
We have 8 teams in the AAC and the MWC needs 8 members to leave, and vote for conference dissolution.
Love me some Hawaii, but that is an expensive trip.
The two newest members are Utah State and San Jose State. I Believe these two have the least likely chance to be added. Better options.
Nevada is small. UNLV is the larger market. U of Nevada would be cut.
Wyoming, New Mexico, CSU and Air Force kind of have long history and want to stay together.
Its EASY, its perfectly balanced. It has 4 geographic zones for Pods, it keeps existing rivalries, it spans every time zone equally and best of all.... NO EXIT FEES.
This is by far the easiest path forward and assembled a large conference that would be slightly insulated if more members leave.
Map below.
(This post was last modified: 09-14-2021 11:23 AM by mtmedlin.)
(09-14-2021 11:21 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote: If you can keep Memphis and Boise in their respective conferences. Otherwise, it's not the answer.
Even if we lost both in a few years, its still a solid viable conference. Btw, it must be really dead on your own board. You dont actually have to be involved in every thread about the AAC.
THis thread is specifically about the AAC and MWC, which you are in neither. Maybe give it a rest a bit.
(09-14-2021 11:21 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote: If you can keep Memphis and Boise in their respective conferences. Otherwise, it's not the answer.
Even if we lost both in a few years, its still a solid viable conference. Btw, it must be really dead on your own board. You dont actually have to be involved in every thread about the AAC.
THis thread is specifically about the AAC and MWC, which you are in neither. Maybe give it a rest a bit.
Would the money make it worth the while? I don't see it.
(09-14-2021 11:27 AM)b2b Wrote: I'd go with 6 from the MWC, UAB, App State and VCU. Slash indicates travel partners that work for non-football visitors.
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If we dont take 8, then all the MWC teams that leave would owe 2 years revenue or roughly $8 million.
The reason this works is because it eliminates all the problems. NO exit fees, no waiting time and it merges the two top G5 conferences into 1.
I know everyone is going to come into this thread and advocate for Sunbelt and CUSA, but we already have those threads... everywhere.
(09-14-2021 11:14 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: Theres an answer that is way easier than what is being posted everywhere.
The AAC and MWC merger.
MWC bylaws state that any conference structural changes must have a 75% vote. 8 out of 12 must vote to to make any substantial change... like dissolving the conference.
We have 8 teams in the AAC and the MWC needs 8 members to leave, and vote for conference dissolution.
Love me some Hawaii, but that is an expensive trip.
The two newest members are Utah State and San Jose State. I Believe these two have the least likely chance to be added. Better options.
Nevada is small. UNLV is the larger market. U of Nevada would be cut.
Wyoming, New Mexico, CSU and Air Force kind of have long history and want to stay together.
Its EASY, its perfectly balanced. It has 4 geographic zones for Pods, it keeps existing rivalries, it spans every time zone equally and best of all.... NO EXIT FEES.
This is by far the easiest path forward and assembled a large conference that would be slightly insulated if more members leave.
Map below.
Do you think ESPN will pay $56 million a year more ($7 mi X 8) on top of the $56 million we would continue to get?
The only way to work around that would be to include a scheduling agreement with Hawaii. They don't become members but are guaranteed 4-8 games with teams from the league.
(09-14-2021 11:14 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: Theres an answer that is way easier than what is being posted everywhere.
The AAC and MWC merger.
MWC bylaws state that any conference structural changes must have a 75% vote. 8 out of 12 must vote to to make any substantial change... like dissolving the conference.
We have 8 teams in the AAC and the MWC needs 8 members to leave, and vote for conference dissolution.
Love me some Hawaii, but that is an expensive trip.
The two newest members are Utah State and San Jose State. I Believe these two have the least likely chance to be added. Better options.
Nevada is small. UNLV is the larger market. U of Nevada would be cut.
Wyoming, New Mexico, CSU and Air Force kind of have long history and want to stay together.
Its EASY, its perfectly balanced. It has 4 geographic zones for Pods, it keeps existing rivalries, it spans every time zone equally and best of all.... NO EXIT FEES.
This is by far the easiest path forward and assembled a large conference that would be slightly insulated if more members leave.
Map below.
Would we add Gonzaga to balance Hawaii? If not then more thoughts need to be give to full merger... Probably can take top 8 and still get Gonzaga, I like the #16... Very P6
(09-14-2021 11:27 AM)b2b Wrote: I'd go with 6 from the MWC, UAB, App State and VCU. Slash indicates travel partners that work for non-football visitors.
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If we dont take 8, then all the MWC teams that leave would owe 2 years revenue or roughly $8 million.
The reason this works is because it eliminates all the problems. NO exit fees, no waiting time and it merges the two top G5 conferences into 1.
I know everyone is going to come into this thread and advocate for Sunbelt and CUSA, but we already have those threads... everywhere.
Why 2 years? just "Exit Fees" period, and they'd all be in the AAC by 2023.
I've been thinking along these same lines for a while now. The only difference is that I would want Utah State instead of Wyoming.
With that said, it is entirely possible that we could have just as good a conference by adding:
Marshall
App State
UAB
Louisiana
...along with VCU, Dayton, St, Louis and another Philly school to help Temple out, each for Olympic only sports. I doubt that we could attract them but it would be worth the try.
Another thing to consider is this: Boise State will undoubtedly want preferential treatment, per usual. If we go after MWC programs, we should go after Fresno State, SDSU, CSU, etc. first and approach Boise if and only if we are ready to pull the trigger on those teams even without Boise State. At least that is what I would do.
(09-14-2021 11:27 AM)b2b Wrote: I'd go with 6 from the MWC, UAB, App State and VCU. Slash indicates travel partners that work for non-football visitors.
Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk
If we dont take 8, then all the MWC teams that leave would owe 2 years revenue or roughly $8 million.
The reason this works is because it eliminates all the problems. NO exit fees, no waiting time and it merges the two top G5 conferences into 1.
I know everyone is going to come into this thread and advocate for Sunbelt and CUSA, but we already have those threads... everywhere.
I think this OP is indicative of the poor position the AAC is in. The MWC schools have little reason to merge. They are just fine as is. The AAC is desperate to add known brands, otherwise the league's future is bleak to meh.
(09-14-2021 11:14 AM)mtmedlin Wrote: Theres an answer that is way easier than what is being posted everywhere.
The AAC and MWC merger.
MWC bylaws state that any conference structural changes must have a 75% vote. 8 out of 12 must vote to to make any substantial change... like dissolving the conference.
We have 8 teams in the AAC and the MWC needs 8 members to leave, and vote for conference dissolution.
Love me some Hawaii, but that is an expensive trip.
The two newest members are Utah State and San Jose State. I Believe these two have the least likely chance to be added. Better options.
Nevada is small. UNLV is the larger market. U of Nevada would be cut.
Wyoming, New Mexico, CSU and Air Force kind of have long history and want to stay together.
Its EASY, its perfectly balanced. It has 4 geographic zones for Pods, it keeps existing rivalries, it spans every time zone equally and best of all.... NO EXIT FEES.
This is by far the easiest path forward and assembled a large conference that would be slightly insulated if more members leave.
Map below.
Do you think ESPN will pay $56 million a year more ($7 mi X 8) on top of the $56 million we would continue to get?
Actually ESPN is paying $77M now for 11 teams , so that’s just $35M more for 5 more teams. And it expands your tv time slots since it’s now in all 4 time zones as well as adding markets they don’t have. Not sure how MWC existing deal with FOX/CBS plays into the equation, but if ESPN wanted exclusive rights $7M would likely be a bargain for them.
But yes this type of merger is absolutely best case scenario vs adding from SBC/CUSA. The 4 team pods help keep costs down for other sports.
Dude. 8/12 = 66% not 75%
