Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

Quite a few teams there that would disband before they joined conferences with some of the others. I'd say that league is dead before arrival.

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

SMU?
TCU?
Texas?
Houston Texans?

Seriously, I like the idea. There is a certain commonality among Central to Southwestern Arkansas, Louisiana outside of the NOLA - Baton Rouge corridor, East New Mexico and rural Texas. This would encapsulate that.

I think that seems more contiguous as the state outlines of the conference than it would do with the individual schools plotted on a map of the area without state borders. You have three schools over here in the western side of the map and then a big space of nothing at all and then the other 9 schools over here on the eastern side.

You really want to save travel money, you skip Central Arkansas and one of the three Western schools and do it with the two western schools scheduled as travel partners in sports that benefit from it.

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

NM, NMSt, and UTEP are all farther than you think. Drop those and go east for the rest of your members. UAB, S Miss, Troy, etc probably make more sense if your looking for a reduced footprint size. Probably more people in an easterly shift to the footprint as well.

Seems like most of these ideas are looking at it from an eastern perspective. I am trying to go from a Southwest to east.

New Mexico might have the most to lose, so lets take them out and Central Arkansas. With the travel partner consideration, you could take out Arkansas State and add Southen Miss.

So a 10 school league with travel partners could be...

1A... NMSU
1B... UTEP

2A...Rice
2B...Texas State

3A...North Texas
3B...UTSA

4A...LA Tech
4B...ULM

5A...Louisiana
5B...Southern Miss

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

There has never been, nor will there ever be, a salesman convincing enough to convince the University of New Mexico to leave the Mountain West for that conference.

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

One of these is not like all the others.

(08-21-2021 03:51 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Seems like most of these ideas are looking at it from an eastern perspective. I am trying to go from a Southwest to east.

New Mexico might have the most to lose, so lets take them out and Central Arkansas. With the travel partner consideration, you could take out Arkansas State and add Southen Miss.

So a 10 school league with travel partners could be...

1A... NMSU
1B... UTEP

2A...Rice
2B...Texas State

3A...North Texas
3B...UTSA

4A...LA Tech
4B...ULM

5A...Louisiana
5B...Southern Miss

Change UNT and Texas State and I'm in.

(08-21-2021 03:57 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

There has never been, nor will there ever be, a salesman convincing enough to convince the University of New Mexico to leave the Mountain West for that conference.

And frankly, there is no reason for any of the schools to fly over all that open land to the west to find a school to play. There are easily identifiable geaographic areas where schools need to group within if the idea is to have a smaller footprint that encourages rivalries and traveling roadie fans.

(08-21-2021 03:31 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

NM, NMSt, and UTEP are all farther than you think. Drop those and go east for the rest of your members. UAB, S Miss, Troy, etc probably make more sense if your looking for a reduced footprint size. Probably more people in an easterly shift to the footprint as well.

If you really want to make it compact, going as far east as Alabama (and Southern Miss is almost all the way to Alabama) is also too far. Drop the three New Mexico schools (including UTEP) and Central Arkansas and add Tulsa. Now that's compact.

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. SMU
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

I should down vote you just for posting this garbage. Put SMU in there where you placed us. This is a trash thread.

(08-21-2021 03:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

SMU?
TCU?
Texas?
Houston Texans?

Seriously, I like the idea. There is a certain commonality among Central to Southwestern Arkansas, Louisiana outside of the NOLA - Baton Rouge corridor, East New Mexico and rural Texas. This would encapsulate that.

If you want schools in eastern New Mexico, you are out of luck with both NMSU and UNM. Neither are even in the eastern half of the state. Buy a map. This conference idea is as bad as your geography.

(08-22-2021 12:05 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

SMU?
TCU?
Texas?
Houston Texans?

Seriously, I like the idea. There is a certain commonality among Central to Southwestern Arkansas, Louisiana outside of the NOLA - Baton Rouge corridor, East New Mexico and rural Texas. This would encapsulate that.

If you want schools in eastern New Mexico, you are out of luck with both NMSU and UNM. Neither are even in the eastern half of the state. Buy a map. This conference idea is as bad as your geography.

Yeah, since Texas is not a square state, the closest airport to Las Cruces being in Texas "the state East of New Mexico", does not mean Las Cruces is anywhere near the eastern border.

It's rather Southern New Mexico, given that Texas is also "the state South of New Mexico" and that's the part of Texas that El Paso is located in.

As far as travel partners, the only way to get more convenient for other members of the conference than NMSU and El Paso is to have two schools served by a bigger airport.

But of course UTEP's travel challenges is not a reason for them to want NMSU in conference ... with NMSU out of conference, they still get one easy OOC home and away series to schedule. If they are not in conference with New Mexico, the two of them alternating home and away is even more convenient.

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

That’s a big nope from Cajuns fans.

(08-21-2021 09:47 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. SMU
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

I should down vote you just for posting this garbage. Put SMU in there where you placed us. This is a trash thread.

Yep. RiceFan says SMU is about to be in the same place with us once the Big 12 is done taking AAC schools.

I don't think the east half of the TexArkLa area wants to go to El Paso or Las Cruces anymore than the rest of us (on a yearly basis anyway). They also hate each other and don't want to be in a league with each other. They may be forced to temporarily coexist half the C-USA teams defect, but I will believe that when I see it.

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(08-22-2021 12:05 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

SMU?
TCU?
Texas?
Houston Texans?

Seriously, I like the idea. There is a certain commonality among Central to Southwestern Arkansas, Louisiana outside of the NOLA - Baton Rouge corridor, East New Mexico and rural Texas. This would encapsulate that.

If you want schools in eastern New Mexico, you are out of luck with both NMSU and UNM. Neither are even in the eastern half of the state. Buy a map. This conference idea is as bad as your geography.

So who would you put NMSU in a conference with?

(08-22-2021 12:05 AM)Todor Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:23 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-21-2021 03:17 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Just a year ago schools were talking about shrinking their footprint. Now no one seems to care about that.

Just for consideration, what could a G5 conference look like that has schools from New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana and Arkansas?

TEAMS

1. New Mexico
2. New Mexico State
3. UTEP
4. Texas State
5. UTSA
6. LA Tech
7. Louisiana
8. ULM
9. North Texas
10. Rice
11. Arkansas State
12. Central Arkansas (They want to move up)

Anyone else?
Would 10 of those be interested?
TV deal wouldn't be much but travel cost would go down.

SMU?
TCU?
Texas?
Houston Texans?

Seriously, I like the idea. There is a certain commonality among Central to Southwestern Arkansas, Louisiana outside of the NOLA - Baton Rouge corridor, East New Mexico and rural Texas. This would encapsulate that.

If you want schools in eastern New Mexico, you are out of luck with both NMSU and UNM. Neither are even in the eastern half of the state. Buy a map. This conference idea is as bad as your geography.

Eh, New Mexico State is only about 45 miles west of the eastern part of the state. You're barely any further west on the USA map than UTEP. That's close enough for these purposes. Maybe Eastern New Mexico U. could upgrade from Division II and be kind of link with the rest of this conference, because you guys are so far out West there on an island in the Pacific Ocean compared to the rest?

I think New Mexico State would be a fine fit in this conference.

I mean, let's face it, no matter what your hoops are like, if your football isn't valuable enough that you get booted out of the 2017-era Sun Belt conference, you should be looking at any potential life raft as a savior.

First Central Arkansas has 8500 seats. They cannot expand their west side without tearing down a pretty new press box. They cannot expand their east side without tearing down a dorm, it is so close they sell premium seats on top of the dorm. They can add a few hundred seats to the north end zone but no more because they'd have to close an intersection and part of the road. Adding 11,500 corner and end zone seats is feasible but it'd be freaking weird to have more corner and end zone seats than sideline seats.

They can't afford the move without going to a higher athletic fee. They are already at $20 per hour.

As for Arkansas State. The Red Wolves recruit more to the east and southeast than to the southwest. Jonesboro is the same distance from Atlanta and Georgia State as from Denton and North Texas. The distance to UAB and Birmingham is the same as to Louisiana Tech and Ruston. AState is 70 miles NE of Memphis a different equation than Little Rock and the center of the state. I'm sure the leadership at AState likes going to Texas, we supported Texas State and UTA admission but the greater need is Alabama and Georgia ties.