(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 12:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:14 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Is that pesky mosquito buzzing around in here again? Someone whack it again.

No need to worry...at least not in your facial area...as that's completely up your ass!

Even if you vote early by mail---you still have to request a ballot. There would be evidence of the ballot being sent. Besides, the count would be horribly off on the mail in portion of the CN early vote count if that simple explanation was the culprit. Its amazing that the one audit group that Maricopa County Election officials did not hand pick from its list of cronies was the only one to find all these inconsistencies with the count, irregularities, and chain of custody issues. Yet---you still believe those buffoons. Typical.

Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 12:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:14 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Is that pesky mosquito buzzing around in here again? Someone whack it again.

No need to worry...at least not in your facial area...as that's completely up your ass!

Even if you vote early by mail---you still have to request a ballot. There would be evidence of the ballot being sent. Besides, the count would be horribly off on the mail in portion of the CN early vote count if that simple explanation was the culprit. Its amazing that the one audit group that Maricopa County Election officials did not hand pick from its list of cronies was the only one to find all these inconsistencies with the count, irregularities, and chain of custody issues. Yet---you still believe those buffoons. Typical.

Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 12:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No need to worry...at least not in your facial area...as that's completely up your ass!

Even if you vote early by mail---you still have to request a ballot. There would be evidence of the ballot being sent. Besides, the count would be horribly off on the mail in portion of the CN early vote count if that simple explanation was the culprit. Its amazing that the one audit group that Maricopa County Election officials did not hand pick from its list of cronies was the only one to find all these inconsistencies with the count, irregularities, and chain of custody issues. Yet---you still believe those buffoons. Typical.

Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Well of course they can vote in person during early voting. It would would also be recorded that they received a unique authorization code for the machine. If they instead simply received a mail in ballot to be mailed back later, that request for a specific ballot would be recorded as well and that count would NOT show up in any of the on location machines. These are not the same method of voting--but there is still going to be a record of the request for a ballot just as there would have been a recording of the fact that the voter received a machine validation code.

As for the Maicopa County Twitter---that just more Maricopa Election Committee gas lighting. Why is it gas lighting? Because the audit never claimed there were more ballots counted than requested. The audit simply stated that 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. Its ballot specific.

(07-16-2021 07:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 12:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Even if you vote early by mail---you still have to request a ballot. There would be evidence of the ballot being sent. Besides, the count would be horribly off on the mail in portion of the CN early vote count if that simple explanation was the culprit. Its amazing that the one audit group that Maricopa County Election officials did not hand pick from its list of cronies was the only one to find all these inconsistencies with the count, irregularities, and chain of custody issues. Yet---you still believe those buffoons. Typical.

Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Thats not what they claimed. They claimed 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. It would appear to be ballot specific.

Tom keeps getting hoodwinked by the county officials tweeting out their ass while they are not under oath.

There are 74,000 ballots that were counted that dont have the required initial request form. Tom, you and the county arent going to spin your way out of this. This is required BY LAW.

Picture of Tommy found after hearing preliminary results of election fraud in AZ:

(He's the guy in the brown shirt behind the portly guy in front)

Tommy immediately shifts into full-on "russia, russia, russia" debunked misinformation mode while he awaits his talking points from Comrade bossman above.

(07-16-2021 07:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 12:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Even if you vote early by mail---you still have to request a ballot. There would be evidence of the ballot being sent. Besides, the count would be horribly off on the mail in portion of the CN early vote count if that simple explanation was the culprit. Its amazing that the one audit group that Maricopa County Election officials did not hand pick from its list of cronies was the only one to find all these inconsistencies with the count, irregularities, and chain of custody issues. Yet---you still believe those buffoons. Typical.

Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Well of course they can vote in person during early voting. It would would also be recorded that they received a unique authorization code for the machine. If they instead simply received a mail in ballot to be mailed back later, that request for a specific ballot would be recorded as well and that count would NOT show up in any of the on location machines. These are not the same method of voting--but there is still going to be a record of the request for a ballot just as there would have been a recording of the fact that the voter received a machine validation code.

As for the Twitter. More Maricopa Election Committee gas lighting. Why is gas lighting? Because the audit never claimed there were more ballots counted than requested. The audit simply stated that 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. Its ballot specific.

But that's where you and the auditors are confused. The county reports BOTH mail and in person votes as early votes. When you vote in person, the county isn't mailing you a ballot.

And FWIW, we've not seen the audit report yet. All we heard was one side of things with no cross examination of any kind. So anyone claiming the county can't be trusted but this unqualified hack outfit is beyond reproach is a dammed fool!

And the 74k issue is only one part of their idiocy. They're wrong about the virus software update and wrong about the voters added to the rolls after election day too...among other things.

Tommy desperately tries to deflect...sticks to previous Talking Points from his Overloards:

Picture of Tommy found after hearing preliminary results of election fraud in AZ:

(He's the guy in the brown shirt behind the portly guy in front)

Tommy immediately shifts into full-on "russia, russia, russia" debunked misinformation mode while he awaits his talking points from Comrade bossman above. Panic begins to set in...

(07-16-2021 08:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Well of course they can vote in person during early voting. It would would also be recorded that they received a unique authorization code for the machine. If they instead simply received a mail in ballot to be mailed back later, that request for a specific ballot would be recorded as well and that count would NOT show up in any of the on location machines. These are not the same method of voting--but there is still going to be a record of the request for a ballot just as there would have been a recording of the fact that the voter received a machine validation code.

As for the Twitter. More Maricopa Election Committee gas lighting. Why is gas lighting? Because the audit never claimed there were more ballots counted than requested. The audit simply stated that 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. Its ballot specific.

But that's where you and the auditors are confused. The county reports BOTH mail and in person votes as early votes. When you vote in person, the county isn't mailing you a ballot.

And FWIW, we've not seen the audit report yet. All we heard was one side of things with no cross examination of any kind. So anyone claiming the county can't be trusted but this unqualified hack outfit is beyond reproach is a dammed fool!

And the 74k issue is only one part of their idiocy. They're wrong about the virus software update and wrong about the voters added to the rolls after election day too...among other things.

It may be included in the early vote, but the issuance of a mail in ballot still needs to be recorded just as the issuance of a machine authorization code for each voter is recorded. There is a record for every mail in ballot issued--or there should be--and if there is not---then its not Cyber Ninjas that's the clown show.

(07-16-2021 08:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Well of course they can vote in person during early voting. It would would also be recorded that they received a unique authorization code for the machine. If they instead simply received a mail in ballot to be mailed back later, that request for a specific ballot would be recorded as well and that count would NOT show up in any of the on location machines. These are not the same method of voting--but there is still going to be a record of the request for a ballot just as there would have been a recording of the fact that the voter received a machine validation code.

As for the Twitter. More Maricopa Election Committee gas lighting. Why is gas lighting? Because the audit never claimed there were more ballots counted than requested. The audit simply stated that 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. Its ballot specific.

They're wrong about the virus software update and wrong about the voters added to the rolls after election day too...among other things.

No, they arent wrong. The machines had not had antivirus and OS patches since 2019. That is a fact.

Also, voters were not on the voter rolls that THE COUNTY FURNISHED UNDER SUBPOENA. The auditors have stated that the county must answer why that is, but it is true. There may or may not be an explanation for it, but its a fact that vpters were not on the election day voter rolls but showed up on the december update. Ands it doesnt change the fact that voters who were registered AFTER Oct 15th were allowed to vote, which was against the law and against a court order.

(07-16-2021 08:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Well of course they can vote in person during early voting. It would would also be recorded that they received a unique authorization code for the machine. If they instead simply received a mail in ballot to be mailed back later, that request for a specific ballot would be recorded as well and that count would NOT show up in any of the on location machines. These are not the same method of voting--but there is still going to be a record of the request for a ballot just as there would have been a recording of the fact that the voter received a machine validation code.

As for the Twitter. More Maricopa Election Committee gas lighting. Why is gas lighting? Because the audit never claimed there were more ballots counted than requested. The audit simply stated that 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. Its ballot specific.

But that's where you and the auditors are confused. The county reports BOTH mail and in person votes as early votes. When you vote in person, the county isn't mailing you a ballot.

And FWIW, we've not seen the audit report yet. All we heard was one side of things with no cross examination of any kind. So anyone claiming the county can't be trusted but this unqualified hack outfit is beyond reproach is a dammed fool!

And the 74k issue is only one part of their idiocy. They're wrong about the virus software update and wrong about the voters added to the rolls after election day too...among other things.

Pray tell Sherlock how did you come to your conclusion? Oh, that's right you have no way of actually knowing other than getting so called fact checked information from your comrades. Since you have absolutely no evidence of what you posted to save yourself from further embarrassment please cite credible sources instead of yellow journalism as your source for future reference.

(07-15-2021 06:10 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 01:08 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.busines...20-9%3famp

Yeah seems like a truthful guy.

There's a word for what you just did and it's not indicative of someone attempting to have a serious conversation, you know, arguing your position with facts rather than attacking a messenger delivering facts that don't suit you. It has to suck going through life not meeting it on its own terms.

Well, what is that word? Go on say it

(07-15-2021 06:32 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 02:10 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Where is the cheating? I’d say that’s more relevant

Everywhere. You just don't want to believe it. You have been indoctrinated.

Well there should be proof. Where is that?

(07-15-2021 07:21 AM)green Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 02:10 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  Where is the cheating? I’d say that’s more relevant

https://twitter.com/SexCounseling/status...0929743872

PRETORIAN GUARD

Seems legit!

(07-15-2021 07:48 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(07-15-2021 01:30 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(07-14-2021 11:51 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Silver lining: Without the loss and the overt corrupt actions over these past several years we wouldn’t know just how bad things really are.

Hard pill to swallow for sure but it was necessary just so these things would come out of the shadows

Q told you so? Amazing the people your cult leader appointed said otherwise. Fantasy world must be nice…join the real world. We don’t want your fascist nonsense.

Troll all you want but reality is here for anyone that ‘wants’ to see it.

I don’t believe in this country anymore, not for Trumps sake or that he’s a savior or anything, but that if not ‘for’ his presence these things wouldn’t have transpired whereas we wouldn’t know just how bad of a shape this country is in

Some Libertarians and Ron Paul followers swallowed the red pill somewhat a long time ago but it’s far worse than what they even thought

1. IC & FBI runs pretty much independently of the executive branch.

2. Both IC & FBI are corrupt in every way possible

3. Left vs Right is all kabuki theater. There’s elites of a certain level and then there’s the rest of the American people

4. Our national media is a lost cause, a pathetic joke that gaslight people on daily basis

5. Congress is pretty much compromised, bribed

That’s just only 5 things and not the complete list

Sorry you hate our country. Maybe you should leave? Isn’t that the standard response?

I suggest a tin foil hat. It really can’t hurt right?

(07-16-2021 08:57 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 08:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Well of course they can vote in person during early voting. It would would also be recorded that they received a unique authorization code for the machine. If they instead simply received a mail in ballot to be mailed back later, that request for a specific ballot would be recorded as well and that count would NOT show up in any of the on location machines. These are not the same method of voting--but there is still going to be a record of the request for a ballot just as there would have been a recording of the fact that the voter received a machine validation code.

As for the Twitter. More Maricopa Election Committee gas lighting. Why is gas lighting? Because the audit never claimed there were more ballots counted than requested. The audit simply stated that 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. Its ballot specific.

But that's where you and the auditors are confused. The county reports BOTH mail and in person votes as early votes. When you vote in person, the county isn't mailing you a ballot.

And FWIW, we've not seen the audit report yet. All we heard was one side of things with no cross examination of any kind. So anyone claiming the county can't be trusted but this unqualified hack outfit is beyond reproach is a dammed fool!

And the 74k issue is only one part of their idiocy. They're wrong about the virus software update and wrong about the voters added to the rolls after election day too...among other things.

It may be included in the early vote, but the issuance of a mail in ballot still needs to be recorded just as the issuance of a machine authorization code for each voter is recorded. There is a record for every mail in ballot issued--or there should be--and if there is not---then its not Cyber Ninjas that's the clown show.

Dude, they were. You honestly think a county of that size, or ANY county in America, just hands out ballots to whomever walks into a voting center? Either not verifying voter legitimacy or not keeping a record of those voters and recording their numbers? That's basically what you are saying here.

Isn't the more probable reality that CN, who doesn't understand how elections work, just isn't looking at the right documentation?

There's no report yet, only the one-sided verbal testimony of Logan, who again is no election expert of any kind. So we're left with the county trying to figure out WTF he's babbling about, and the most likely explanation is that he's looking at the EV32 & EV33 tallies and again doesn't understand that these aren't done for walk in votes since nothing is mailed.

Further, those reports aren't even reliable reports for a forensic audit per the county and past election experts from Arizona as there real purpose appears to be for campaigns to get voter names for their database.

Think man, you're smarter than this.

(07-16-2021 11:53 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 08:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Well of course they can vote in person during early voting. It would would also be recorded that they received a unique authorization code for the machine. If they instead simply received a mail in ballot to be mailed back later, that request for a specific ballot would be recorded as well and that count would NOT show up in any of the on location machines. These are not the same method of voting--but there is still going to be a record of the request for a ballot just as there would have been a recording of the fact that the voter received a machine validation code.

As for the Twitter. More Maricopa Election Committee gas lighting. Why is gas lighting? Because the audit never claimed there were more ballots counted than requested. The audit simply stated that 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. Its ballot specific.

But that's where you and the auditors are confused. The county reports BOTH mail and in person votes as early votes. When you vote in person, the county isn't mailing you a ballot.

And FWIW, we've not seen the audit report yet. All we heard was one side of things with no cross examination of any kind. So anyone claiming the county can't be trusted but this unqualified hack outfit is beyond reproach is a dammed fool!

And the 74k issue is only one part of their idiocy. They're wrong about the virus software update and wrong about the voters added to the rolls after election day too...among other things.

Pray tell Sherlock how did you come to your conclusion? Oh, that's right you have no way of actually knowing other than getting so called fact checked information from your comrades. Since you have absolutely no evidence of what you posted to save yourself from further embarrassment please cite credible sources instead of yellow journalism as your source for future reference.

Your "source" is Doug Logan, CN, unchallenged testimony to two state senators, and no audit report released yet. Perhaps you should sit this one out?

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 12:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:14 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  Is that pesky mosquito buzzing around in here again? Someone whack it again.

No need to worry...at least not in your facial area...as that's completely up your ass!

Even if you vote early by mail---you still have to request a ballot. There would be evidence of the ballot being sent. Besides, the count would be horribly off on the mail in portion of the CN early vote count if that simple explanation was the culprit. Its amazing that the one audit group that Maricopa County Election officials did not hand pick from its list of cronies was the only one to find all these inconsistencies with the count, irregularities, and chain of custody issues. Yet---you still believe those buffoons. Typical.

Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

It depends on the state but that is quite literally how nearly voting works in some states. You go to the county clerk office and get a mail in ballot ballot with your ID, fill it out right there, put it in the envelope, and hand it back. That’s how either MI or WI does it.

(07-17-2021 08:38 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:15 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 01:01 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 12:27 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No need to worry...at least not in your facial area...as that's completely up your ass!

Even if you vote early by mail---you still have to request a ballot. There would be evidence of the ballot being sent. Besides, the count would be horribly off on the mail in portion of the CN early vote count if that simple explanation was the culprit. Its amazing that the one audit group that Maricopa County Election officials did not hand pick from its list of cronies was the only one to find all these inconsistencies with the count, irregularities, and chain of custody issues. Yet---you still believe those buffoons. Typical.

Ummm...dude...when you do early voting at a vote center, you don't have to request a ballot be mailed to you. And the county adds these early votes at vote centers to the votes that were received by mail into their total early votes number. So the total of early votes will exceed the amount of ballots requested by mail.

Try to keep up, please?

Jeeez. You really believe they just hand these ballots out at the early voting centers like flyers for a free concert? Good Lord, you cant possibly be that poorly informed. There still has to be a record of the ballot request whether it was made on line, by mail, or in person at early voting.

It depends on the state but that is quite literally how nearly voting works in some states. You go to the county clerk office and get a mail in ballot ballot with your ID, fill it out right there, put it in the envelope, and hand it back. That’s how either MI or WI does it.

Yup, of course Arizona keeps a record of that. Anyone who thinks they didn't but we're only hearing about it 8 months later is a complete fool.

Clearly Doug Logan is again proving he doesn't know what the **** he's doing by looking at GOTV records rather than official election records.

Probably explains why Fann hired the dope, so he can make ridiculous claims which drive a narrative which drives partisan idiots to demand partisan voting restrictions. Then Logan can just come back later and either blame the county for not holding his hand or feign ignorance.

(07-17-2021 08:24 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 11:53 PM)BlueDragon Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 08:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:36 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2021 07:33 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  No, not even remotely what I said. The county stops mailing out early ballots in late October. After that date, registered voters can still vote early, in person, at voting centers. All these votes are listed by the county as early votes. Apparently, CN was not even aware of this process, or they're just lying about it.

Additionally, the county just released on their Twitter feed tonight that the 74k figure isn't even remotely correct on just mailed ballots. The county mailed out over 2.3 million ballots per requests and only 1.9 million were returned.

Well of course they can vote in person during early voting. It would would also be recorded that they received a unique authorization code for the machine. If they instead simply received a mail in ballot to be mailed back later, that request for a specific ballot would be recorded as well and that count would NOT show up in any of the on location machines. These are not the same method of voting--but there is still going to be a record of the request for a ballot just as there would have been a recording of the fact that the voter received a machine validation code.

As for the Twitter. More Maricopa Election Committee gas lighting. Why is gas lighting? Because the audit never claimed there were more ballots counted than requested. The audit simply stated that 74K mail in ballots have no record of being requested. Its ballot specific.

But that's where you and the auditors are confused. The county reports BOTH mail and in person votes as early votes. When you vote in person, the county isn't mailing you a ballot.

And FWIW, we've not seen the audit report yet. All we heard was one side of things with no cross examination of any kind. So anyone claiming the county can't be trusted but this unqualified hack outfit is beyond reproach is a dammed fool!

And the 74k issue is only one part of their idiocy. They're wrong about the virus software update and wrong about the voters added to the rolls after election day too...among other things.

Pray tell Sherlock how did you come to your conclusion? Oh, that's right you have no way of actually knowing other than getting so called fact checked information from your comrades. Since you have absolutely no evidence of what you posted to save yourself from further embarrassment please cite credible sources instead of yellow journalism as your source for future reference.

Your "source" is Doug Logan, CN, unchallenged testimony to two state senators, and no audit report released yet. Perhaps you should sit this one out?

You are without a doubt one of the most prolific manipulative people to ever walk this planet. You twist what people say to fit your needs. The hearing was on security issues and the machines definitely had not been updated for virus protection since 2019 but instead air gapped. This can be breached. 37,000 plus queries into a voting system by outside sources that had eight registered users? I know you have to run cover but your deceitful manner knows no bounds. He also didn’t specify any numbers saying ballots didn’t line up to machine. Man, your distorted view on things to match ideology knows no end. Congratulations again. Time to drink up some more kool aid.

"THOUSANDS of duplicated ballots MISSING serial numbers, making it almost impossible to match it up with its corresponding damaged ballot"

"We don’t even know if these ballots marked “duplicate” are valid at all - a huge numbers aren’t matched to an original ballot from a real voter - AZ law requires originals and duplicates to be clearly marked with a matching serial number…"