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(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Nice! We will beat you by 50 this year. Enjoy the trip.

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

I didn't know they booked flights 20 years in the future...

(07-12-2021 08:22 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Nice! We will beat you by 50 this year. Enjoy the trip.

11/20 hope it is a night game so those Southern boys can freeze.

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Great! If you ask nicely we can recommend some nice bars for you to drown your tears in after the game.

(07-12-2021 08:11 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:20 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Pony Excess Part II?

I have Bearcats#1 slaving away so SMU can buy more players. I’ll release him after our natty.

SMU's got a very talented roster. But y'all don't multiple guys who could be 1st round picks like we do. I feel like Cincinnati will win this one something like 41-24. Seems like a stretch to expect another blowout like last season, even though I think our team is better this year. That run last year vs. SMU, Memphis, Houston, and ECU might have been the best football I've ever seen in our program's history. Even in 2009, we never quite got rolling at that kind of pace.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- we're loaded at pretty much every position except OT. We've got bodies who look the part, but we don't have any proven options at that position. James Hudson and Darius Harper are big losses. Based on the way we've recruited on the offensive line, I'm fairly confident we'll be solid, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm a little nervous.

(07-12-2021 10:42 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 08:11 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:20 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Pony Excess Part II?

I have Bearcats#1 slaving away so SMU can buy more players. I’ll release him after our natty.

SMU's got a very talented roster. But y'all don't multiple guys who could be 1st round picks like we do. I feel like Cincinnati will win this one something like 41-24. Seems like a stretch to expect another blowout like last season, even though I think our team is better this year. That run last year vs. SMU, Memphis, Houston, and ECU might have been the best football I've ever seen in our program's history. Even in 2009, we never quite got rolling at that kind of pace.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- we're loaded at pretty much every position except OT. We've got bodies who look the part, but we don't have any proven options at that position. James Hudson and Darius Harper are big losses. Based on the way we've recruited on the offensive line, I'm fairly confident we'll be solid, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm a little nervous.

The one thing that people don't seem to recall is that John Williams was pushing for the starting gig at a tackle spot throughout the fall...he seems to be incredibly polished and ready to play. I'm more concerned about if Jeremy Cooper has fixed the whole concrete foot and grabby hands combination of blocking technique since he is backfilling for O'Quinn who has moved to the other tackle (and has the athleticism to play there being a former TE and someone I pegged back when he committed as being a tackle prospect, not a TE prospect seeing as how I watched him play in HS up here).

Our staff has been focused on the talent up front their entire tenure here. CLF knows where football is won: the trenches. I’m confident the line will perform well, although I must admit it’s not an elite unit like our secondary.

As long as Mr Metz isn't manning one of those spots, I'll be happy.

(07-13-2021 08:12 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 10:42 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 08:11 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:20 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Pony Excess Part II?

I have Bearcats#1 slaving away so SMU can buy more players. I’ll release him after our natty.

SMU's got a very talented roster. But y'all don't multiple guys who could be 1st round picks like we do. I feel like Cincinnati will win this one something like 41-24. Seems like a stretch to expect another blowout like last season, even though I think our team is better this year. That run last year vs. SMU, Memphis, Houston, and ECU might have been the best football I've ever seen in our program's history. Even in 2009, we never quite got rolling at that kind of pace.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- we're loaded at pretty much every position except OT. We've got bodies who look the part, but we don't have any proven options at that position. James Hudson and Darius Harper are big losses. Based on the way we've recruited on the offensive line, I'm fairly confident we'll be solid, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm a little nervous.

The one thing that people don't seem to recall is that John Williams was pushing for the starting gig at a tackle spot throughout the fall...he seems to be incredibly polished and ready to play. I'm more concerned about if Jeremy Cooper has fixed the whole concrete foot and grabby hands combination of blocking technique since he is backfilling for O'Quinn who has moved to the other tackle (and has the athleticism to play there being a former TE and someone I pegged back when he committed as being a tackle prospect, not a TE prospect seeing as how I watched him play in HS up here).

Good point about John Williams, and I appreciate your insight and experience with O'Quinn. That makes me feel a lot better about the position in 2021. I was expecting Tunstall to take one of those spots, but it seems like our returning guys have the inside edge on winning the starting tackle positions. Hopefully all three are starter quality so we can avoid another Hudson/Georgia situation. As others have said, Fickell understands that games are won in the trenches, and that the biggest disadvantage most schools have against elite competition is on the offensive and defensive lines. Chad Brendel has said some pretty impressive things about incoming defensive linemen Lawton and Jackson. I believe I recall him saying on his podcast that Robert Jackson looks like a guy who the recruiting services and bigger programs missed on.

(07-13-2021 09:41 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  As long as Mr Metz isn't manning one of those spots, I'll be happy.

I just had flashbacks at the mere mention of his name.

(07-13-2021 10:36 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I believe I recall him saying on his podcast that Robert Jackson looks like a guy who the recruiting services and bigger programs missed on.

They're consistently said on BCJ podcast that Rob is just a different kind of physical specimen that you only see come in as a freshman at the big time programs

(07-13-2021 11:16 AM)RealDeal Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 10:36 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I believe I recall him saying on his podcast that Robert Jackson looks like a guy who the recruiting services and bigger programs missed on.

They're consistently said on BCJ podcast that Rob is just a different kind of physical specimen that you only see come in as a freshman at the big time programs

6’6 285- with an 83 inch wing span. He came in at 275 and has added good weight. By comparison Myjai Sanders came in at 6’4 and under 210 his freshman year.

Apparently Jackson played hoops growing up and did not pick up FB until his junior year. He looks the part in the weight room apparently. Here is a good article from the Philadelphia Inquirer

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.inquire...utType=amp

(07-13-2021 10:36 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 08:12 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 10:42 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 08:11 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:20 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Pony Excess Part II?

I have Bearcats#1 slaving away so SMU can buy more players. I’ll release him after our natty.

SMU's got a very talented roster. But y'all don't multiple guys who could be 1st round picks like we do. I feel like Cincinnati will win this one something like 41-24. Seems like a stretch to expect another blowout like last season, even though I think our team is better this year. That run last year vs. SMU, Memphis, Houston, and ECU might have been the best football I've ever seen in our program's history. Even in 2009, we never quite got rolling at that kind of pace.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- we're loaded at pretty much every position except OT. We've got bodies who look the part, but we don't have any proven options at that position. James Hudson and Darius Harper are big losses. Based on the way we've recruited on the offensive line, I'm fairly confident we'll be solid, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm a little nervous.

The one thing that people don't seem to recall is that John Williams was pushing for the starting gig at a tackle spot throughout the fall...he seems to be incredibly polished and ready to play. I'm more concerned about if Jeremy Cooper has fixed the whole concrete foot and grabby hands combination of blocking technique since he is backfilling for O'Quinn who has moved to the other tackle (and has the athleticism to play there being a former TE and someone I pegged back when he committed as being a tackle prospect, not a TE prospect seeing as how I watched him play in HS up here).

Good point about John Williams, and I appreciate your insight and experience with O'Quinn. That makes me feel a lot better about the position in 2021. I was expecting Tunstall to take one of those spots, but it seems like our returning guys have the inside edge on winning the starting tackle positions. Hopefully all three are starter quality so we can avoid another Hudson/Georgia situation. As others have said, Fickell understands that games are won in the trenches, and that the biggest disadvantage most schools have against elite competition is on the offensive and defensive lines. Chad Brendel has said some pretty impressive things about incoming defensive linemen Lawton and Jackson. I believe I recall him saying on his podcast that Robert Jackson looks like a guy who the recruiting services and bigger programs missed on.

O'Quinn started at LG for us last year...we're only replacing two starters technically, and one of those replacements has started 14 games for us in his career (Jeremy Cooper). To me, if Williams is an average tackle, our OL will be fine, and everything I've read and seen makes me think he'll be just fine even if he's green.

(07-13-2021 12:57 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  O'Quinn started at LG for us last year...we're only replacing two starters technically, and one of those replacements has started 14 games for us in his career (Jeremy Cooper). To me, if Williams is an average tackle, our OL will be fine, and everything I've read and seen makes me think he'll be just fine even if he's green.

No doubt OL has the widest possible results but I'm of the believe that it's going to be like DL when Broughton and Copeland left where everyone thinks it's going to be a weakness and it ends up being a big strength. Starting with the two young guys who took over midseason and give them another year of development and the middle should be great. John Williams has been groomed for this and is a great talent. Between the other options I have no doubts we'll find a RT.

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

I hope you have a great trip, but that flight home is going to feel like a Greyhound ride that makes a ton of stops if you don't let go of the beating SMU is doomed to experience.

(07-12-2021 08:11 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:20 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Pony Excess Part II?

I have Bearcats#1 slaving away so SMU can buy more players. I’ll release him after our natty.

He's (almost) completely AWOL these days, but maybe if you say his name two more times...?

(07-13-2021 05:39 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 08:11 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:20 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Pony Excess Part II?

I have Bearcats#1 slaving away so SMU can buy more players. I’ll release him after our natty.

He's almost completely AWOL these days, but maybe if you say his name two more times...?

(07-13-2021 11:13 AM)Bearcat419 Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 09:41 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  As long as Mr Metz isn't manning one of those spots, I'll be happy.

I just had flashbacks at the mere mention of his name.

I think Metz deserves more slack than most fans give him. Yes, he's had some struggles and he's made some frustrating and unfortunate plays. But he's still learning and it's not his fault we didn't have anybody else ready to play better at his position. If my calcs are right, he still has 3 years potentially to develop at UC and I still think he could have a big positive impact here if he stays motivated.

(07-13-2021 10:36 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(07-13-2021 08:12 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 10:42 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 08:11 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:20 PM)doss2 Wrote:  Pony Excess Part II?

I have Bearcats#1 slaving away so SMU can buy more players. I’ll release him after our natty.

SMU's got a very talented roster. But y'all don't multiple guys who could be 1st round picks like we do. I feel like Cincinnati will win this one something like 41-24. Seems like a stretch to expect another blowout like last season, even though I think our team is better this year. That run last year vs. SMU, Memphis, Houston, and ECU might have been the best football I've ever seen in our program's history. Even in 2009, we never quite got rolling at that kind of pace.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- we're loaded at pretty much every position except OT. We've got bodies who look the part, but we don't have any proven options at that position. James Hudson and Darius Harper are big losses. Based on the way we've recruited on the offensive line, I'm fairly confident we'll be solid, but I'd be lying if I didn't say I'm a little nervous.

The one thing that people don't seem to recall is that John Williams was pushing for the starting gig at a tackle spot throughout the fall...he seems to be incredibly polished and ready to play. I'm more concerned about if Jeremy Cooper has fixed the whole concrete foot and grabby hands combination of blocking technique since he is backfilling for O'Quinn who has moved to the other tackle (and has the athleticism to play there being a former TE and someone I pegged back when he committed as being a tackle prospect, not a TE prospect seeing as how I watched him play in HS up here).

Good point about John Williams, and I appreciate your insight and experience with O'Quinn. That makes me feel a lot better about the position in 2021. I was expecting Tunstall to take one of those spots, but it seems like our returning guys have the inside edge on winning the starting tackle positions. Hopefully all three are starter quality so we can avoid another Hudson/Georgia situation. As others have said, Fickell understands that games are won in the trenches, and that the biggest disadvantage most schools have against elite competition is on the offensive and defensive lines. Chad Brendel has said some pretty impressive things about incoming defensive linemen Lawton and Jackson. I believe I recall him saying on his podcast that Robert Jackson looks like a guy who the recruiting services and bigger programs missed on.

I don't know for sure, but I think some of that may be us hedging our bets. Last I heard Tunstall still hasn't been declared officially eligible this year so we need to be prepared for all options. But may the best man win if he simply gets beat out for the job.

(07-12-2021 08:11 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:20 PM)doss2 Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-09-2021 01:51 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Honestly UC should be playing Memphis, Houston, and UCF every season. In a divisionless format there is no reason to that games with most valuable are not played annually. I don’t think UC vs Tulsa, Tulane, and ECU need to happen any more than twice every 4 years and even seems like a lot. Navy, Temple, SMU, and USF would be my next tier.

Just booked my flight to watch SMU ruin your season.

Pony Excess Part II?

I have Bearcats#1 slaving away so SMU can buy more players. I’ll release him after our natty.

I enjoyed reading the friendly back and forth.