(06-26-2021 03:30 PM)colohank Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 02:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 02:43 PM)colohank Wrote:  If only they'd followed the advice of the world's greatest expert on everything and innoculated themselves with Clorox. Or maybe exposed themselves to a bright light. Honestly, I can't remember which remedy is supposed to be the most effective.

A pint of absolute and you won't care either way. It's medicinal! Unless of course you are lonely in which case they say absinthe makes the heart grow fonder.

Yeah, if you're comparing them to the grocery store variety of Clorox. But what about a fine 25-year-old single malt Clorox?

That only works neat and when you are alone. I would never share a single malt over 18!

(06-26-2021 01:48 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:16 PM)ken d Wrote:  I believe that not getting vaccinated is almost always a bad decision, whether it is due to political ideology or misinformation about the risks.

All four players who tested positive were vaccinated.

Recompute and try again.

What! the vaccine does not work?
The variant showed up in the most vaccinated country on earth? Go figure.
That's the problem with a manufactured virus, it just won't behave like it should.
Covid 20 is going to be a real *****.

Jesus Christ. Get the ******* vaccine.

(06-26-2021 06:30 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:48 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:16 PM)ken d Wrote:  I believe that not getting vaccinated is almost always a bad decision, whether it is due to political ideology or misinformation about the risks.

All four players who tested positive were vaccinated.

Recompute and try again.

What! the vaccine does not work?
The variant showed up in the most vaccinated country on earth? Go figure.
That's the problem with a manufactured virus, it just won't behave like it should.
Covid 20 is going to be a real *****.

Actually, the vaccine appears to work quite well for what it was intended to do - prevent exposure to Covid from sending you to the hospital.

OT: Pandemic Update

Quote:From Yahoo! News: Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

...infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%. And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average...

About 63% of all vaccine-eligible Americans — those 12 and older — have received at least one dose, and 53% are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

The vaccine itself is not without some risk, and medical decisions are personal matters, but they should be made with all the facts. Consider this...

SUMMARY

63% of US Adults Vaccinated
accounts for 0.1% of new infections
and for 0.8% of deaths

versus

37% of US Adults Not vaccinated
accounts for 99.9% of new infections
and for 99.2% of deaths

What the vaccine doesn't do is prevent you from being exposed to COVID -- only a mask can help there (and most people don't seem willing to continue wearing them). Exposure causes a positive test, but not necessarily serious symptoms - if you're vaccinated.

(06-26-2021 09:09 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  63% of US Adults Vaccinated
accounts for 0.1% of new infections
and for 0.8% of deaths

versus

37% of US Adults Not vaccinated
accounts for 99.9% of new infections
and for 99.2% of deaths

What the vaccine doesn't do is prevent you from being exposed to COVID -- only a mask can help there (and most people don't seem willing to continue wearing them). Exposure causes a positive test, but not necessarily serious symptoms - if you're vaccinated.

We don't need you and your silly reasonable science stuff around here. We need more blind adherence to public safety figures which are unaccountable and dubious at best. And triple masks. And quadruple lockdown! And double secret probation!

(06-26-2021 09:09 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 06:30 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:48 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:16 PM)ken d Wrote:  I believe that not getting vaccinated is almost always a bad decision, whether it is due to political ideology or misinformation about the risks.

All four players who tested positive were vaccinated.

Recompute and try again.

What! the vaccine does not work?
The variant showed up in the most vaccinated country on earth? Go figure.
That's the problem with a manufactured virus, it just won't behave like it should.
Covid 20 is going to be a real *****.

Actually, the vaccine appears to work quite well for what it was intended to do - prevent exposure to Covid from sending you to the hospital.

OT: Pandemic Update

Quote:From Yahoo! News: Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

...infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%. And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average...

About 63% of all vaccine-eligible Americans — those 12 and older — have received at least one dose, and 53% are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

The vaccine itself is not without some risk, and medical decisions are personal matters, but they should be made with all the facts. Consider this...

SUMMARY

63% of US Adults Vaccinated
accounts for 0.1% of new infections
and for 0.8% of deaths

versus

37% of US Adults Not vaccinated
accounts for 99.9% of new infections
and for 99.2% of deaths

What the vaccine doesn't do is prevent you from being exposed to COVID -- only a mask can help there (and most people don't seem willing to continue wearing them). Exposure causes a positive test, but not necessarily serious symptoms - if you're vaccinated.

Where did you get your stat's?
In an era where accurate information is hard to come by those numbers are pretty specific.

(06-27-2021 10:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 09:09 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 06:30 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:48 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:16 PM)ken d Wrote:  I believe that not getting vaccinated is almost always a bad decision, whether it is due to political ideology or misinformation about the risks.

All four players who tested positive were vaccinated.

Recompute and try again.

What! the vaccine does not work?
The variant showed up in the most vaccinated country on earth? Go figure.
That's the problem with a manufactured virus, it just won't behave like it should.
Covid 20 is going to be a real *****.

Actually, the vaccine appears to work quite well for what it was intended to do - prevent exposure to Covid from sending you to the hospital.

OT: Pandemic Update

Quote:From Yahoo! News: Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

...infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%. And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average...

About 63% of all vaccine-eligible Americans — those 12 and older — have received at least one dose, and 53% are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

The vaccine itself is not without some risk, and medical decisions are personal matters, but they should be made with all the facts. Consider this...

SUMMARY

63% of US Adults Vaccinated
accounts for 0.1% of new infections
and for 0.8% of deaths

versus

37% of US Adults Not vaccinated
accounts for 99.9% of new infections
and for 99.2% of deaths

What the vaccine doesn't do is prevent you from being exposed to COVID -- only a mask can help there (and most people don't seem willing to continue wearing them). Exposure causes a positive test, but not necessarily serious symptoms - if you're vaccinated.

Where did you get your stat's?
In an era where accurate information is hard to come by those numbers are pretty specific.

It's an AP article posted on Yahoo

Your actions have consequences...

(06-27-2021 11:30 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-27-2021 10:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 09:09 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 06:30 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 01:48 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  All four players who tested positive were vaccinated.

Recompute and try again.

What! the vaccine does not work?
The variant showed up in the most vaccinated country on earth? Go figure.
That's the problem with a manufactured virus, it just won't behave like it should.
Covid 20 is going to be a real *****.

Actually, the vaccine appears to work quite well for what it was intended to do - prevent exposure to Covid from sending you to the hospital.

OT: Pandemic Update

Quote:From Yahoo! News: Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

...infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%. And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average...

About 63% of all vaccine-eligible Americans — those 12 and older — have received at least one dose, and 53% are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

The vaccine itself is not without some risk, and medical decisions are personal matters, but they should be made with all the facts. Consider this...

SUMMARY

63% of US Adults Vaccinated
accounts for 0.1% of new infections
and for 0.8% of deaths

versus

37% of US Adults Not vaccinated
accounts for 99.9% of new infections
and for 99.2% of deaths

What the vaccine doesn't do is prevent you from being exposed to COVID -- only a mask can help there (and most people don't seem willing to continue wearing them). Exposure causes a positive test, but not necessarily serious symptoms - if you're vaccinated.

Where did you get your stat's?
In an era where accurate information is hard to come by those numbers are pretty specific.

It's an AP article posted on Yahoo

https://www.yahoo.com/now/nearly-covid-d...00375.html

"The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data."

Lots of speculation and not much hard data to back up your numbers Mark.

(06-27-2021 02:30 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-27-2021 11:30 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-27-2021 10:15 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 09:09 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-26-2021 06:30 PM)XLance Wrote:  What! the vaccine does not work?
The variant showed up in the most vaccinated country on earth? Go figure.
That's the problem with a manufactured virus, it just won't behave like it should.
Covid 20 is going to be a real *****.

Actually, the vaccine appears to work quite well for what it was intended to do - prevent exposure to Covid from sending you to the hospital.

OT: Pandemic Update

Quote:From Yahoo! News: Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

...infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%. And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average...

About 63% of all vaccine-eligible Americans — those 12 and older — have received at least one dose, and 53% are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC.

The vaccine itself is not without some risk, and medical decisions are personal matters, but they should be made with all the facts. Consider this...

SUMMARY

63% of US Adults Vaccinated
accounts for 0.1% of new infections
and for 0.8% of deaths

versus

37% of US Adults Not vaccinated
accounts for 99.9% of new infections
and for 99.2% of deaths

What the vaccine doesn't do is prevent you from being exposed to COVID -- only a mask can help there (and most people don't seem willing to continue wearing them). Exposure causes a positive test, but not necessarily serious symptoms - if you're vaccinated.

Where did you get your stat's?
In an era where accurate information is hard to come by those numbers are pretty specific.

It's an AP article posted on Yahoo

https://www.yahoo.com/now/nearly-covid-d...00375.html

"The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data."

Lots of speculation and not much hard data to back up your numbers Mark.

Yahoo was, is, and likely will be a wholly unreliable, badly edited, cut and paste, while altered to be sensationalistic, craptastic spin and fluff tabloid. they doctor everything for clicks.

My wife who has worked for UNC and Duke hospitals and is still attached to one says the only people dying now are those unvaccinated. That's what they have been told directly by CDC and confirmed by JH and Mayo.

While I too would not trust Yahoo any further than I would trust Fox, I trust to it be more accurate and reliable than Newsmax or OAN or Brietbart. That said, the imposition of partisan politics onto this just obscures what the NCAA did to poor old State College and doubles down on the same old problem of dealing with a bunch of diasporaed Highland and Ulster Scots. Most "rednecks" who are honor culture ideated, who are obsessed with what is fair, not what is slick or crafty have taken the anti authority side without actually thinking about the long term consequences. Of course these folks have been **** on by the English three time in the British Isles and the British tried again in the Carolinas and Virginia during the war. The wealthy planters took advantage of them. They provided the main backbone of the Army in both world wars. They want to be left alone and when you **** with them they get mad instead of getting crafty.

As a man from Greensboro - Lance leans into this as a person from the Triad should. But UNC is tempered in this by it's plantation, legal, and investment crowd. They are slicker and less obviously confrontational, but i can assure that when this began to happen Friday, UNC people would have known who the Health Department People were and who they were ******* outside of their marriages. Every personal foible of the NCAA crew on the site would be known to the UNC or Duke mouthpieces, one from NC, and another picked up with a late night phone call in Omaha.

We all know the "vaccine" is relatively safe. Most not taking it are either stupid, honestly ignorant, have an autoimmune disorder, or trying to make a political statement.

Had NC State gamed this out with their compliance people they would have had a tacit strategy. If they were really smart they would have asserted that some of NC State's people had some immune issues such as those related to Autoimmune arthritis, etc., for which a reveal could cost them money down the road if knowledge of not having the shot came out. (Doesn't always have to be HIV or some sort of deadly Cancer to prevent the normal inoculation regimen.

Anyway, if NC State wanted to bow up to the NCAA they needed their ducks in a row, they needed Debbie Yow to still be the AD, and they needed someone like Chris Coarchiani acting as a liaison to the SID.

As it is a few anit-vaxxers, quasi-patriots will make NC State a cause celebe for a week or two. Then no one will remember.

Here's an article directly from the CDC that tells how the vaccines reduces the risks associated with the covid. It gives some pretty specific details as to how covid affects vaccinated folks compared to unvaccinated folks. While it doesnt give the stats that HokieMark shared, the info seems to support the overall idea that the vaccines hugely reduces the affects of covid on an individual. The CDC study numbers came from all first line workers such as healthcare workers etc... who far more exposed to covid than the average person. So it seems to make since that these numbers would be even better for the general public.

CDC Study

Just seeing this now so I’m late to the party. However, from my perspective, NC State got its just desserts.

It’s a free country. You can do whatever you want to do. However, there are consequences attached every decision we make and I think the Wolfpack administration made some boneheaded choices that ultimately cost them a once in a lifetime chance to win the College World Series.

I don’t really feel bad for the program as a whole. I think they are getting exactly what they deserve. However, I do feel bad for the few people in that program who had enough common sense to get vaccinated. Those people are absolutely robbed by their selfish, moronic teammates.

(07-08-2021 02:26 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Just seeing this now so I’m late to the party. However, from my perspective, NC State got its just desserts.

It’s a free country. You can do whatever you want to do. However, there are consequences attached every decision we make and I think the Wolfpack administration made some boneheaded choices that ultimately cost them a once in a lifetime chance to win the College World Series.

I don’t really feel bad for the program as a whole. I think they are getting exactly what they deserve. However, I do feel bad for the few people in that program who had enough common sense to get vaccinated. Those people are absolutely robbed by their selfish, moronic teammates.

Vaccination doesn’t equal 100% protection.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...cases.html

If the rules said a positive test could disqualify the team then that’s the rule. Same as a positive marijuana test disqualifying potential Olympians. The rules are the rules. Arguing after-the-fact does nothing.

Yinzer, in the State of NC the universities do not have the legal authority to require a vaccination other than those set out by the NC General Assembly for entry to school - MMR, DPT, etc.

Had this been Duke or UNC in the same situation, the NCAA would not have been able to get past Duke's or UNC's medical staff to speak with the players and therefore would have been unable to come to any conclusions that Duke or UNC did not want the NCAA to come to, moreover Duke and UNC would have brought their own rapid testing materials - you would not get past their medical folks and if you got past them you not get past their legal team.

Vandy is private and can require anything of their players, just like Duke. Just like Duke and UNC, Vandy has a research hospital and a deep legal bench.

Essentially your assertion is that NC State was flaunting the rules.

The reality is that they were stupid for not forcing their players to get vaccinated because they should have known that lack of vaccination would be used against them and that in any battle with political overtones, NC State as the more conservative institution without a research Medical School, and without the resources of a Law School or a Public Health school was going to get rolled like a drunk.

I agree that our players were poorly advised and poorly represented. NC State people do tend to be naïve and stupid enough to tell the truth due to a mid-20th century American ethical mindset that they can not overcome.

So what you are blaming the Administration for is following NC law and telling the truth.

I can tell you had I been in charge, I would not allowed a player to come to Omaha without a shot. I also would not allow one of my players to meet with the NCAA med staff without our med staff and a lawyer present. I would have advised all my players to answer every question with the phrase "I don't have any memory of those things, I have put all that out of my mind to prepare for the ball game". After the fact I would have been reviled in the media, but my kids would have their trophy and my response to everyone would be "prove it".

I think the ACC should punish NC State for being so stupid by expelling it from the ACC - that would serve us right. Then we would have to take our ball an play elsewhere.

Testing positive and getting infected are completely different things. The only way to prevent a positive test is quarantine/isolation. Vaccines won't prevent positive tests. They are designed to prevent/limit the severity of infections. They are NOT 100% effective. If the team was 100% vaccinated it would not have guaranteed that no player would test positive.

This is probably the worst case scenario for infectious diseases. You have groups of people traveling and meeting other groups that have been traveling. Then they travel to another site and meet other groups that have been traveling. It's not just the teams. There are hotels staff, restaurants, strip clubs, etc.

Could State have managed this better? Yes.

(07-12-2021 07:47 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Testing positive and getting infected are completely different things. The only way to prevent a positive test is quarantine/isolation. Vaccines won't prevent positive tests. They are designed to prevent/limit the severity of infections. They are NOT 100% effective. If the team was 100% vaccinated it would not have guaranteed that no player would test positive.

This is probably the worst case scenario for infectious diseases. You have groups of people traveling and meeting other groups that have been traveling. Then they travel to another site and meet other groups that have been traveling. It's not just the teams. There are hotels staff, restaurants, strip clubs, etc.

Could State have managed this better? Yes.

How so are they different? I am not in the health field so I would like this bolded part of your post explained by someone. I was under the impression that testing positive is the same as being infected. And that testing positive doesnt mean that you will get sick. It is also my understanding that 99.5% of those testing positive today are those who are unvaccinated.

Semantics are the problem here. Media and lay people and non medical folks use the word "test" to refer to several things that while they may constitute a test, they are not what you really mean to say.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nco...sting.html

Viral tests are used to look for current infection
A viral test checks specimens from your nose or your mouth to find out if you are currently infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. Viral tests can be performed in a laboratory, at a testing site, or at home or anywhere else. Two types of viral tests are used: nucleic acid amplification tests (NAATs) and antigen tests.

Who should get tested
The following people should get tested for COVID-19:

People who have symptoms of COVID-19.
People who are fully vaccinated with COVID-19 vaccine should be evaluated by their healthcare provider and tested for COVID-19 if indicated.
People without symptoms of COVID-19 such as:
People not fully vaccinated with COVID-19 vaccine who have had close contact with someone with confirmed COVID-19 (including a person who does not have symptoms within 10 days of their positive test result).
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Who does not need to be tested
The following people who have been exposed to someone with COVID-19 do not need to get tested if they do not have COVID-19 symptoms:

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For residents in non-healthcare congregate settings (e.g. correctional and detention facilities, group homes) and employees of residential congregate settings and high-density workplaces (e.g. meat and poultry processing and manufacturing plants), refer to CDC’s recommendations for fully vaccinated people.
People who have tested positive for COVID-19 within the past 3 months and recovered, as long as they do not develop new symptoms, do not need to get tested.

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(07-12-2021 08:47 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:47 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Testing positive and getting infected are completely different things. The only way to prevent a positive test is quarantine/isolation. Vaccines won't prevent positive tests. They are designed to prevent/limit the severity of infections. They are NOT 100% effective. If the team was 100% vaccinated it would not have guaranteed that no player would test positive.

This is probably the worst case scenario for infectious diseases. You have groups of people traveling and meeting other groups that have been traveling. Then they travel to another site and meet other groups that have been traveling. It's not just the teams. There are hotels staff, restaurants, strip clubs, etc.

Could State have managed this better? Yes.

How so are they different? I am not in the health field so I would like this bolded part of your post explained by someone. I was under the impression that testing positive is the same as being infected. And that testing positive doesnt mean that you will get sick. It is also my understanding that 99.5% of those testing positive today are those who are unvaccinated.

The science can be confusing (hence all of the misinformation). Bottom line is this: even after you've been vaccinated, the virus can enter your body. If the vaccine does its job, you won't get seriously sick - but you can still pass it on to others who are not vaccinated (This is the reason that children under 12 are so much at risk of the Delta variant - which does kill children - but that's another thread...).

From what I understand, the NCAA's plan was seriously flawed. As Wolfman stated, the only way they could insure no "infections" would've been total quarantine of the players (i.e. a "bubble").

(07-12-2021 08:47 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(07-12-2021 07:47 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Testing positive and getting infected are completely different things. The only way to prevent a positive test is quarantine/isolation. Vaccines won't prevent positive tests. They are designed to prevent/limit the severity of infections. They are NOT 100% effective. If the team was 100% vaccinated it would not have guaranteed that no player would test positive.

This is probably the worst case scenario for infectious diseases. You have groups of people traveling and meeting other groups that have been traveling. Then they travel to another site and meet other groups that have been traveling. It's not just the teams. There are hotels staff, restaurants, strip clubs, etc.

Could State have managed this better? Yes.

How so are they different? I am not in the health field so I would like this bolded part of your post explained by someone. I was under the impression that testing positive is the same as being infected. And that testing positive doesnt mean that you will get sick. It is also my understanding that 99.5% of those testing positive today are those who are unvaccinated.

It's 99.5% if the people who have died from the virus the last 3 months are unvaccinated. Not 99.5% of the people who are testing positive are unvaccinated.