https://csnbbs.com/thread-921307-post-17...id17437956

Indicators of AAU Members

The Association of American Universities(AAU) divides indicators
used in assessments of current and potential new members into
two phases. Phase I indicators are used as the primary indicators.
Phase II indicators provide additional important calibrations. All
indicators are tabulated as both actual and normalized per faculty
where feasible.

Phase I Indicators

Competitively funded federal research
Membership in the National Academies (NAS, NAE, IOM)
Faculty awards, fellowships, and memberships
Citations

Phase II Indicators

USDA, state, and industrial research funding
Doctoral education
Postdoctoral appointees
Undergraduate education

Association of American Universities - Membership Information
http://www.aau.edu/about/membership_info...px?id=1110

Competitively funded federal research (2017 National Rank)
"Top American Research Universities 2019 Annual Report"
https://mup.umass.edu/sites/default/file...report.pdf

51 Cincinnati
53 USF
82 Temple
106 Tulane
118 UCF
137 UH
No Listing: ECU Memphis Navy SMU Tulsa

National Academy Members (2018)
"Top American Research Universities 2019 Annual Report"
https://mup.umass.edu/sites/default/file...report.pdf

15 UH
10 USF
8 Cincinnati
6 UCF
5 Temple
3 Tulane
No Listing: ECU Memphis Navy SMU Tulsa

Faculty awards (2018)
"Top American Research Universities 2019 Annual Report"
https://mup.umass.edu/sites/default/file...report.pdf

14 USF
10 UH
7 Temple
7 Tulane
5 Cincinnati
5 UCF
3 ECU
No Listing: Memphis Navy SMU Tulsa

Citations (2020)
https://webometrics.info/en/transparent

1854409 Temple
1800731 USF
1669638 UH
1531695 Cincinnati
1340105 UCF
517082 SMU
436669 Memphis
114578 Tulsa
No Listing: ECU Navy Tulane

(05-25-2021 01:26 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  https://csnbbs.com/thread-921307-post-17...id17437956

Indicators of AAU Members

The Association of American Universities(AAU) divides indicators
used in assessments of current and potential new members into
two phases. Phase I indicators are used as the primary indicators.
Phase II indicators provide additional important calibrations. All
indicators are tabulated as both actual and normalized per faculty
where feasible.

Phase I Indicators

Competitively funded federal research
Membership in the National Academies (NAS, NAE, IOM)
Faculty awards, fellowships, and memberships
Citations

Phase II Indicators

USDA, state, and industrial research funding
Doctoral education
Postdoctoral appointees
Undergraduate education

Association of American Universities - Membership Information
http://www.aau.edu/about/membership_info...px?id=1110

Competitively funded federal research (2017 National Rank)
"Top American Research Universities 2019 Annual Report"
https://mup.umass.edu/sites/default/file...report.pdf

51 Cincinnati
53 USF
82 Temple
106 Tulane
118 UCF
137 UH
No Listing: ECU Memphis Navy SMU Tulsa

National Academy Members (2018)
"Top American Research Universities 2019 Annual Report"
https://mup.umass.edu/sites/default/file...report.pdf

15 UH
10 USF
8 Cincinnati
6 UCF
5 Temple
3 Tulane
No Listing: ECU Memphis Navy SMU Tulsa

Faculty awards (2018)
"Top American Research Universities 2019 Annual Report"
https://mup.umass.edu/sites/default/file...report.pdf

14 USF
10 UH
7 Temple
7 Tulane
5 Cincinnati
5 UCF
3 ECU
No Listing: Memphis Navy SMU Tulsa

Citations (2020)
https://webometrics.info/en/transparent

1854409 Temple
1800731 USF
1669638 UH
1531695 Cincinnati
1340105 UCF
517082 SMU
436669 Memphis
114578 Tulsa
No Listing: ECU Navy Tulane

Here's some of the other info in the report:

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doctorates awarded: (national rankings)

#51 Houston
#54 USF
#77 UCF
#88 Cincy
#98 Temple
#144 Tulane

postdoctoral appointees: (national rankings)

#61 Cincy
#63 USF
#75 Houston
#102 Temple
#120 Tulane
#129 UCF



Faculty Awards (national rankings)

#49 USF
#66 Houston
#92 (tie) Temple
#92 (tie) Tulane
#112 Cincy
#112 UCF

National Academy Memberships (national rankings)

#64 Houston
#75 USF
#87 Cincy
#102 UCF
#105 Temple
#122 Tulane


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Cincinnati is not a surprise, but kudos to USF who have really stepped up the last decade. The only surprise school to me is Houston, well done Coogs.

If AAC members are ranked as members of the AAU, here is the list

1. Tulane.

USF and Cincinnati have consistently been the leaders among AAC schools in the "Top American Research Universities", TARU, rankings over many years. Its not easy to climb the ranks as other schools climb also.

AAC's top schools beat every school in the Big 12 except ISU and UT. As an example OU has zero members in the National Academies. Yet, they talk about joining the AAU and the Big 10. Poor states perform like poor states.
Many people denigrate city schools. But, look at the AAC's top schools. They are all in major cities.

The University of Alabama is not listed in anything in TARU.

USF has established as its goals to be an AAU member. And they have used those metrics as a way to measure and improve the university. There were many that made fun of those goals but it has definitely improved our academic standards.

(05-25-2021 10:06 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF has established as its goals to be an AAU member. And they have used those metrics as a way to measure and improve the university. There were many that made fun of those goals but it has definitely improved our academic standards.

Their commitment to doing so is very inspiring and laudable.

Some of those who may once laughed at the idea may have begun to notice that their USF degrees are worth more now in the marketplace, and that they bring them more respect, as a result of USF improving academic standards.

I'm glad that someone started this thread, because I hadn't realized that Cincy, Houston, and USF might all have the potential to become AAU schools if they continue their current progress.

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(05-25-2021 11:00 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 10:06 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF has established as its goals to be an AAU member. And they have used those metrics as a way to measure and improve the university. There were many that made fun of those goals but it has definitely improved our academic standards.

Their commitment to doing so is very inspiring and laudable.

Some of those who may once laughed at the idea may have begun to notice that their USF degrees are worth more now in the marketplace, and that they bring them more respect, as a result of USF improving academic standards.

I'm glad that someone started this thread, because I hadn't realized that Cincy, Houston, and USF might all have the potential to become AAU schools if they continue their current progress.

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Nope

(05-25-2021 11:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 11:00 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 10:06 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF has established as its goals to be an AAU member. And they have used those metrics as a way to measure and improve the university. There were many that made fun of those goals but it has definitely improved our academic standards.

Their commitment to doing so is very inspiring and laudable.

Some of those who may once laughed at the idea may have begun to notice that their USF degrees are worth more now in the marketplace, and that they bring them more respect, as a result of USF improving academic standards.

I'm glad that someone started this thread, because I hadn't realized that Cincy, Houston, and USF might all have the potential to become AAU schools if they continue their current progress.

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Nope

Exactly. Nope. That clown has no clue about anything.

Whether USF achieves AAU status is not the point. The big thing for our university is that by setting that as the goal and comparing itself to the metrics of that organization, it has raised the standards , rankings and the way the university is looked as. That in itself is a huge accomplishment and a great success.

So I hope we continue putting AAU. Admission as our goal because it will continue to raise the University.

Uh owes USF more than a card on holidays.

UH was advancing before it hired Renu Khator from USF, but very slowly.

Bold moves started after her arrival. The purchase of a 70 acre plot on I-45
for a research park was the first major advancement of many.

There is a tendancy to think a business incubator is a company that provides
financing to growing businesses. Before a business needs capital, it needs
products. UH uses it research park to help startup businesses. It provides
facilities, access to high level researchers, and educated workers. In that
respect it is a business "Incubator". Long term, this will provides significant
returns.

USF was ranked #16 in the U.S. for Utility Patents in 2019. That is no small
feat when competing with top universities in the country.

AAC Ranks
=========
16 USF
65 UCF
76 UH
96 UC

50-in-5 is UH's latest program .
Departments are challenged to increase output by 50% in 5 years.

(05-26-2021 05:48 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 11:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 11:00 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 10:06 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF has established as its goals to be an AAU member. And they have used those metrics as a way to measure and improve the university. There were many that made fun of those goals but it has definitely improved our academic standards.

Their commitment to doing so is very inspiring and laudable.

Some of those who may once laughed at the idea may have begun to notice that their USF degrees are worth more now in the marketplace, and that they bring them more respect, as a result of USF improving academic standards.

I'm glad that someone started this thread, because I hadn't realized that Cincy, Houston, and USF might all have the potential to become AAU schools if they continue their current progress.

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Nope

Exactly. Nope. That clown has no clue about anything.

+2 for the clown reference. ClownClampett

This forum would not be much without Jed. It's time to appreciate his contributions.

(05-26-2021 10:50 AM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  This forum would not be much without Jed. It's time appreciate his contributions.

Would not be much what? Much headaches from 30 different color fonts? Much sprained fingers from scrolling? Much laughter from being put on the “ignore list”?

We can all appreciate that he does a lot of research. He can't write as he does without it.

USFFan

(05-25-2021 11:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 11:00 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 10:06 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF has established as its goals to be an AAU member. And they have used those metrics as a way to measure and improve the university. There were many that made fun of those goals but it has definitely improved our academic standards.

Their commitment to doing so is very inspiring and laudable.

Some of those who may once laughed at the idea may have begun to notice that their USF degrees are worth more now in the marketplace, and that they bring them more respect, as a result of USF improving academic standards.

I'm glad that someone started this thread, because I hadn't realized that Cincy, Houston, and USF might all have the potential to become AAU schools if they continue their current progress.

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Nope

Sadly, this. Trying to get into the AAU isn't really that far from trying to get into the P5. There's no automatic inclusion criteria, and there's not really anything that would compel them to let anybody in. In fact, here's a live look at Cincinnati and USF at the last AAU "rush party":



USFFan

(05-26-2021 11:16 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 11:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 11:00 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 10:06 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF has established as its goals to be an AAU member. And they have used those metrics as a way to measure and improve the university. There were many that made fun of those goals but it has definitely improved our academic standards.

Their commitment to doing so is very inspiring and laudable.

Some of those who may once laughed at the idea may have begun to notice that their USF degrees are worth more now in the marketplace, and that they bring them more respect, as a result of USF improving academic standards.

I'm glad that someone started this thread, because I hadn't realized that Cincy, Houston, and USF might all have the potential to become AAU schools if they continue their current progress.

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Nope

Sadly, this. Trying to get into the AAU isn't really that far from trying to get into the P5. There's no automatic inclusion criteria, and there's not really anything that would compel them to let anybody in. In fact, here's a live look at Cincinnati and USF at the last AAU "rush party":



USFFan

Yeah. It's not fair

(05-26-2021 11:16 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 11:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 11:00 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  

(05-25-2021 10:06 PM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  USF has established as its goals to be an AAU member. And they have used those metrics as a way to measure and improve the university. There were many that made fun of those goals but it has definitely improved our academic standards.

Their commitment to doing so is very inspiring and laudable.

Some of those who may once laughed at the idea may have begun to notice that their USF degrees are worth more now in the marketplace, and that they bring them more respect, as a result of USF improving academic standards.

I'm glad that someone started this thread, because I hadn't realized that Cincy, Houston, and USF might all have the potential to become AAU schools if they continue their current progress.

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Nope

Sadly, this. Trying to get into the AAU isn't really that far from trying to get into the P5. There's no automatic inclusion criteria, and there's not really anything that would compel them to let anybody in. In fact, here's a live look at Cincinnati and USF at the last AAU "rush party":



USFFan

Once again getting into the AAU is not the point, is how striving for it can raise a university’s academic standings as it has done for USF.

Next time some AAU stuff shirt has an allergic reaction, he can just ask all his other pencil neck friends in the room which of them can invent him some Benadryl.