(05-04-2021 02:01 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 01:48 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why would the MWC take UTEP? I mean, there’s nothing I’d rather have UTEP be but I’m being realistic, we don’t offer much to the MWC at the moment.

If it ever happens, expect Texas State to get the call. This is a Texas based conference after all and if Old Dominion doesn’t like it, they can go independent or join the Sun Belt.

Well, at least you admit it but we still get a vote as does everyone else in the conference. I'd be more in favor of NMST than TXST personally, at least they have decent basketball. Like I said earlier, it'd likely get ugly.

I thought ODU was leaving C-USA for something called the A-10?

(05-04-2021 08:47 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:44 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 07:45 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 07:02 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 06:23 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Does the AAC offer enough for them to jump...

I can think of 1.2 million reasons.

chump change considering the extra costs involved.

Boise is not going to another G5 conference AAC. Just like the Big 12 strung the AAC schools along to get more money, Boise is using this a money power play.

There would be an absolute mutiny if Boise got any more than what they already get.

Well think about it, if Boise joined the American now, that contract probably goes up in value even more. Boise is a known national brand, it does make that conference absolutely powerful.

Them and BYU would be game changers for the American. That's what they're holding out hope for, now will they get it, doubtful.

I meant that the MWC schools would come unglued if Boise tried to get even more that what they currently milk out of the conference.

(05-04-2021 09:08 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 02:01 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 01:48 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why would the MWC take UTEP? I mean, there’s nothing I’d rather have UTEP be but I’m being realistic, we don’t offer much to the MWC at the moment.

If it ever happens, expect Texas State to get the call. This is a Texas based conference after all and if Old Dominion doesn’t like it, they can go independent or join the Sun Belt.

Well, at least you admit it but we still get a vote as does everyone else in the conference. I'd be more in favor of NMST than TXST personally, at least they have decent basketball. Like I said earlier, it'd likely get ugly.

I thought ODU was leaving C-USA for something called the A-10?

And wasn't Charlotte going with them?

(05-04-2021 09:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:47 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:44 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 07:45 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 07:02 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  I can think of 1.2 million reasons.

chump change considering the extra costs involved.

Boise is not going to another G5 conference AAC. Just like the Big 12 strung the AAC schools along to get more money, Boise is using this a money power play.

There would be an absolute mutiny if Boise got any more than what they already get.

Well think about it, if Boise joined the American now, that contract probably goes up in value even more. Boise is a known national brand, it does make that conference absolutely powerful.

Them and BYU would be game changers for the American. That's what they're holding out hope for, now will they get it, doubtful.

Boise State is chasing money and preferential treatment. They will get the former in the American but not the latter. The question for Boise State remains as in 2011 when they joined the then Big East: will you sacrifice basketball and the other sports for a football only membership in a conference hundreds of miles away? The Big Sky, Big West, WAC and Summit are a big step down from the MWC.

BYU will never entertain the idea of joining a G5 conference even if it's the best one for one reason only: the University of Utah. As long as Utah is in a power conference, BYU would rather tell themselves they play a relevant independent schedule while getting paid by ESPN rather than settle for a G5 schedule with 2-3 P5 games.

If I was the AAC, I'd push for Army and see if they're interested this time. Keep Navy in the West and have Army take UConn's spot in the East. If they're not, UAB is the best option out there.

JMU has the facilities and budget. Their stadium holds what, 24,000? I would be fine with them, but not just for FB only. The problem is that their administration doesn’t seem to know whether to scratch their watch or wind their ass. I don’t think they’d be a typical FCs call up, but nor do I think that they’d be a juggernaut.

They would be the only FCS school I would even consider.

Our options would be:

JMU
TXST
NMSU
Liberty

Can’t poach SBC only needing one school.
Can’t poach MAC only needing one school
New England schools make zero sense.

(05-04-2021 09:19 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 09:08 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 02:01 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 01:48 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why would the MWC take UTEP? I mean, there’s nothing I’d rather have UTEP be but I’m being realistic, we don’t offer much to the MWC at the moment.

If it ever happens, expect Texas State to get the call. This is a Texas based conference after all and if Old Dominion doesn’t like it, they can go independent or join the Sun Belt.

Well, at least you admit it but we still get a vote as does everyone else in the conference. I'd be more in favor of NMST than TXST personally, at least they have decent basketball. Like I said earlier, it'd likely get ugly.

I thought ODU was leaving C-USA for something called the A-10?

And wasn't Charlotte going with them?

Two teams voluntarily leaving would be a great outcome for the other 12 C-USA programs, no matter which two teams they are.

(05-04-2021 09:19 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 09:08 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 02:01 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 01:48 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why would the MWC take UTEP? I mean, there’s nothing I’d rather have UTEP be but I’m being realistic, we don’t offer much to the MWC at the moment.

If it ever happens, expect Texas State to get the call. This is a Texas based conference after all and if Old Dominion doesn’t like it, they can go independent or join the Sun Belt.

Well, at least you admit it but we still get a vote as does everyone else in the conference. I'd be more in favor of NMST than TXST personally, at least they have decent basketball. Like I said earlier, it'd likely get ugly.

I thought ODU was leaving C-USA for something called the A-10?

And wasn't Charlotte going with them?

Its funny how a poll about a hypothetical situation can bring a lot of dish dash from all corners of the conference. Not a single or even a handful of schools/fans have the pull to do squat in the grand scheme of things whether its east coast schools thinking of breaking free from Texas or vice versa. I don't know of a single school or fan that is happy about being in a conference forever no matter how good it is. Change finds a way. Yes there is a possibility Charlotte and ODU might stick together so its not out of scope.

(05-04-2021 09:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 09:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:47 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:44 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 07:45 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  chump change considering the extra costs involved.

Boise is not going to another G5 conference AAC. Just like the Big 12 strung the AAC schools along to get more money, Boise is using this a money power play.

There would be an absolute mutiny if Boise got any more than what they already get.

Well think about it, if Boise joined the American now, that contract probably goes up in value even more. Boise is a known national brand, it does make that conference absolutely powerful.

Them and BYU would be game changers for the American. That's what they're holding out hope for, now will they get it, doubtful.

Boise State is chasing money and preferential treatment. They will get the former in the American but not the latter. The question for Boise State remains as in 2011 when they joined the then Big East: will you sacrifice basketball and the other sports for a football only membership in a conference hundreds of miles away? The Big Sky, Big West, WAC and Summit are a big step down from the MWC.

BYU will never entertain the idea of joining a G5 conference even if it's the best one for one reason only: the University of Utah. As long as Utah is in a power conference, BYU would rather tell themselves they play a relevant independent schedule while getting paid by ESPN rather than settle for a G5 schedule with 2-3 P5 games.

If I was the AAC, I'd push for Army and see if they're interested this time. Keep Navy in the West and have Army take UConn's spot in the East. If they're not, UAB is the best option out there.

JMU has the facilities and budget. Their stadium holds what, 24,000? I would be fine with them, but not just for FB only. The problem is that their administration doesn’t seem to know whether to scratch their watch or wind their ass. I don’t think they’d be a typical FCs call up, but nor do I think that they’d be a juggernaut.

They would be the only FCS school I would even consider.

Our options would be:

JMU
TXST
NMSU
Liberty

Can’t poach SBC only needing one school.
Can’t poach MAC only needing one school
New England schools make zero sense.

If UTEP were to leave for any reason why would NMSU be on the replacement list? All the posts on this forum about UTEP being so far away would only be worse with the extra 40 mile bus trip after landing in El Paso.

(05-04-2021 10:31 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 09:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 09:03 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:47 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:44 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  There would be an absolute mutiny if Boise got any more than what they already get.

Well think about it, if Boise joined the American now, that contract probably goes up in value even more. Boise is a known national brand, it does make that conference absolutely powerful.

Them and BYU would be game changers for the American. That's what they're holding out hope for, now will they get it, doubtful.

Boise State is chasing money and preferential treatment. They will get the former in the American but not the latter. The question for Boise State remains as in 2011 when they joined the then Big East: will you sacrifice basketball and the other sports for a football only membership in a conference hundreds of miles away? The Big Sky, Big West, WAC and Summit are a big step down from the MWC.

BYU will never entertain the idea of joining a G5 conference even if it's the best one for one reason only: the University of Utah. As long as Utah is in a power conference, BYU would rather tell themselves they play a relevant independent schedule while getting paid by ESPN rather than settle for a G5 schedule with 2-3 P5 games.

If I was the AAC, I'd push for Army and see if they're interested this time. Keep Navy in the West and have Army take UConn's spot in the East. If they're not, UAB is the best option out there.

JMU has the facilities and budget. Their stadium holds what, 24,000? I would be fine with them, but not just for FB only. The problem is that their administration doesn’t seem to know whether to scratch their watch or wind their ass. I don’t think they’d be a typical FCs call up, but nor do I think that they’d be a juggernaut.

They would be the only FCS school I would even consider.

Our options would be:

JMU
TXST
NMSU
Liberty

Can’t poach SBC only needing one school.
Can’t poach MAC only needing one school
New England schools make zero sense.

If UTEP were to leave for any reason why would NMSU be on the replacement list? All the posts on this forum about UTEP being so far away would only be worse with the extra 40 mile bus trip after landing in El Paso.

Agreed. New Mexico State will not get a look at from the current makeup of CUSA. New Mexico State is hoping the Mountain West loses two or three members soon so they can take one the spots.

(05-04-2021 08:54 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Let's be realistic, what options does C-USA have if UTEP or any school leaves? If we believe what the Sun Belt fans say, none of them will be interested except for Texas State. MAC schools have a compact conference that works for them so that option is out. UConn and UMass won't be interested either. NMSU without UTEP doesn't make sense geographically. That only leaves James Madison if they want to move up to FBS and Liberty east of the Mississippi River. Liberty has perception issues, James Madison might not be ready to make a decision right away so that only leaves Texas State as the one school that might be ready to join C-USA. It's not what fans want but the options that are available at the moment and it doesn't look good.

Seeing how the Eastern schools would have the voting majority if a western school leaves, I would place good money on C-USA staying at 13 than adding Texas State.

I would also say that in general JMU would be a better add in all ways except they don't have an FBS program yet. And even then Texas State barely crosses that threshold.

(05-05-2021 06:21 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:54 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Let's be realistic, what options does C-USA have if UTEP or any school leaves? If we believe what the Sun Belt fans say, none of them will be interested except for Texas State. MAC schools have a compact conference that works for them so that option is out. UConn and UMass won't be interested either. NMSU without UTEP doesn't make sense geographically. That only leaves James Madison if they want to move up to FBS and Liberty east of the Mississippi River. Liberty has perception issues, James Madison might not be ready to make a decision right away so that only leaves Texas State as the one school that might be ready to join C-USA. It's not what fans want but the options that are available at the moment and it doesn't look good.

Seeing how the Eastern schools would have the voting majority if a western school leaves, I would place good money on C-USA staying at 13 than adding Texas State.

I would also say that in general JMU would be a better add in all ways except they don't have an FBS program yet. And even then Texas State barely crosses that threshold.

I don't know of anyone in the West that would vote for TXST either . . .

(05-04-2021 08:54 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Let's be realistic, what options does C-USA have if UTEP or any school leaves? If we believe what the Sun Belt fans say, none of them will be interested except for Texas State. MAC schools have a compact conference that works for them so that option is out. UConn and UMass won't be interested either. NMSU without UTEP doesn't make sense geographically. That only leaves James Madison if they want to move up to FBS and Liberty east of the Mississippi River. Liberty has perception issues, James Madison might not be ready to make a decision right away so that only leaves Texas State as the one school that might be ready to join C-USA. It's not what fans want but the options that are available at the moment and it doesn't look good.

According to this poll, the fans want no one added. Most of us think 14 is too many now and none of the teams we could realistically get have equal or more value than UTEP.

Coastal, Liberty, or App State for me. All three bring good things to the table. Coastal is well rounded, Liberty has tons of money, and App plays football well a couple of times a year. Adding all three would be excellent but would take some serious shaking of the world.

I feel that if or when one school does leave it won't be a singular event. I imagine it will be part of a cascading event similar to the way all the other realignments have gone down the last 25 years. My money is on CUSA splitting down the middle with the more centrally located schools having to make a decision. For example, does Tech want to stay with USM and UAB or does all three want to stay with a Texas based conference.

(05-05-2021 08:41 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  I feel that if or when one school does leave it won't be a singular event. I imagine it will be part of a cascading event similar to the way all the other realignments have gone down the last 25 years. My money is on CUSA splitting down the middle with the more centrally located schools having to make a decision. For example, does Tech want to stay with USM and UAB or does all three want to stay with a Texas based conference.

I can’t see UAB willing to give up a chance at an NCAA auto bid. So I imagine that the group that gets “CUSA” will get UAB.

(05-04-2021 01:58 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:58 AM)Danforth Wrote:  I'm a UTEP fan and I sincerely have nothing against CUSA.

The problem is UTEP is too far away from the other CUSA schools and there isn't a sense of rivalry with any of them.

No offense but I couldn't tell you which city most CUSA schools are in.

I would much rather UTEP be in the new WAC which will have 5 or 6 Texas schools.

A common mistake made with naming where FIU is that it's in Miami...but it's not, it's in Sweetwater. HUGE difference. Closer to the Everglades than South Beach. Now you know!

Why not put the name of your city in the name of your school? For Example, UTEP is the University of Texas at El Paso. UTSA is the University of Texas at San Antonio.

Western Kentucky? Yeah I imagine it's somewhere in Western Kentucky but I have no idea what city.

Middle Tennessee? I imagine it's somewhere in the Middle of Tennesee but I have no idea what city.

It's marketing 101 no?

(05-04-2021 09:32 PM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 09:19 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 09:08 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 02:01 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 01:48 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why would the MWC take UTEP? I mean, there’s nothing I’d rather have UTEP be but I’m being realistic, we don’t offer much to the MWC at the moment.

If it ever happens, expect Texas State to get the call. This is a Texas based conference after all and if Old Dominion doesn’t like it, they can go independent or join the Sun Belt.

Well, at least you admit it but we still get a vote as does everyone else in the conference. I'd be more in favor of NMST than TXST personally, at least they have decent basketball. Like I said earlier, it'd likely get ugly.

I thought ODU was leaving C-USA for something called the A-10?

And wasn't Charlotte going with them?

Its funny how a poll about a hypothetical situation can bring a lot of dish dash from all corners of the conference. Not a single or even a handful of schools/fans have the pull to do squat in the grand scheme of things whether its east coast schools thinking of breaking free from Texas or vice versa. I don't know of a single school or fan that is happy about being in a conference forever no matter how good it is. Change finds a way. Yes there is a possibility Charlotte and ODU might stick together so its not out of scope.

You and one of your ODU supporters stirred up a chunk of that "dish dash" (never heard that expression before) when you started whining about Texas schools again for the umpteenth time, suggesting another Texas school should join UTEP. Mind you, UTEP was in C-USA long before ODU ever joined. Rice has also been in the conference as long as UTEP has. The only schools who have been in this conference longer are UAB and Southern Miss. In fact, four of the five schools who have been in the conference the longest are in the Western Division, Marshall being the only exception.

Why would Western Kentucky change its name to some type of iteration of Bowling Green? That screams small time to me, like Miami Ohio.

Additionally, Bowling Green State University is already a thing...

clt says odu and Charlotte will stick together.

(05-04-2021 03:37 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 01:56 PM)Danforth Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 01:48 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Why would the MWC take UTEP? I mean, there’s nothing I’d rather have UTEP be but I’m being realistic, we don’t offer much to the MWC at the moment.

If it ever happens, expect Texas State to get the call. This is a Texas based conference after all and if Old Dominion doesn’t like it, they can go independent or join the Sun Belt.

I agree. AAC has no interest in Boise St. and MWC has not interest in UTEP.

The AAC would take an old CUSA team before Boise St.


My dream conference would be an all Texas Conference.

The AAC had been in talks with Boise St over the last year as reported on the realignment board. You are wrong once again.

Allow me to rephrase my statement.

I don't think the AAC will take Boise St.

(05-05-2021 08:49 AM)Danforth Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 01:58 PM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(05-04-2021 08:58 AM)Danforth Wrote:  I'm a UTEP fan and I sincerely have nothing against CUSA.

The problem is UTEP is too far away from the other CUSA schools and there isn't a sense of rivalry with any of them.

No offense but I couldn't tell you which city most CUSA schools are in.

I would much rather UTEP be in the new WAC which will have 5 or 6 Texas schools.

A common mistake made with naming where FIU is that it's in Miami...but it's not, it's in Sweetwater. HUGE difference. Closer to the Everglades than South Beach. Now you know!

Why not put the name of your city in the name of your school? For Example, UTEP is the University of Texas at El Paso. UTSA is the University of Texas at San Antonio.

Western Kentucky? Yeah I imagine it's somewhere in Western Kentucky but I have no idea what city.

Middle Tennessee? I imagine it's somewhere in the Middle of Tennesee but I have no idea what city.

It's marketing 101 no?

clt agrees. U of Eugene Ducks