BcatMatt13
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
I mean he’s spent the last ten years at the side of the far and away best coach this program has had since the 60’s. Part of the reason he is #2 is because Huggs’ boy Larry Harrison has been there since 2007 as the Associate HC and has no desire to leave.
No idea if it will work out, but if he gets a good staff around him he’ll be fine.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 12:49 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: Hope he has a guy on staff who has actually had to make an in-game coaching decision before...and not NVE wondering what he should get for dinner in Ft. Wayne after watching his G-League team run around with no organization for 48 minutes.
My guess is he brings someone off WV's staff.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 12:48 PM)Former Lurker Wrote: (04-12-2021 12:45 PM)doss2 Wrote: Tony Yates 2.0
I see it in 3 years: MARTIN/WYLER JEEP on RT. 28 innnn Milllford!
What a disaster if true. It is hard to take UC seriously as a high major program if WVU's #2 assistant is the hire.
Guess we’ll see...hope for the best..q at
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
If UC fans can't at least give him a chance and rally around Martin, UC b-ball is a lost cause which it's pretty much been since Huggy with good portion of the base always biiiitchin about coach.
I understand it's not perfect, but sometimes these hires work out. Just like Fickell.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 12:50 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: I mean he’s spent the last ten years at the side of the far and away best coach this program has had since the 60’s. Part of the reason he is #2 is because Huggs’ boy Larry Harrison has been there since 2007 as the Associate HC and has no desire to leave.
No idea if it will work out, but if he gets a good staff around him he’ll be fine.
15. Anyone who has been with Huggins that long knows turmoil.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
Repeat after me: There is no right formula for picking a basketball coach. Those with no head coaching experience have become hall of famers. Those who came up coaching smaller programs have become hall of famers.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
Interesting idea that if EM and NVE are hired that it draws in interest/donations so that we can get Fickell his locker room and whatever, then fire Cunningham. If you have good coaches and donors the choice of AD becomes a management job and less of fund raising position. If Cunningham can't lead and has his two most important colleagues at odds with him he is a big part of the issue.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
Corey Blount to coach the biggies?
NVE or Anthony Buford to coach the guards?
Curtis Bostic as Strength Coach.
The band is back together.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
I just hope they have hired someone so we can forget basketball and move on to something important. Football!
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 12:45 PM)doss2 Wrote: Tony Yates 2.0
I see it in 3 years: MARTIN/WYLER JEEP on RT. 28 innnn Milllford!
Doss, this response does not lend itself to the better of our organization, Bearcat Banter. I'd like to see you in my office immediately, so as to provide you with a timely update of your performance with us.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 12:51 PM)natibeast21 Wrote: If UC fans can't at least give him a chance and rally around Martin, UC b-ball is a lost cause which it's pretty much been since Huggy with good portion of the base always biiiitchin about coach.
I understand it's not perfect, but sometimes these hires work out. Just like Fickell.
I will not be thrilled if we hire Martin, and I find some irony in some posters who ripped CBJ for his qualifications, but are excited about Martin.
That said, I will fully support Martin, even if I think it will be a mediocre hire. I am more than willing to eat crow if he comes here and finds a lot of success.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 01:02 PM)Banter Wrote: (04-12-2021 12:51 PM)natibeast21 Wrote: If UC fans can't at least give him a chance and rally around Martin, UC b-ball is a lost cause which it's pretty much been since Huggy with good portion of the base always biiiitchin about coach.
I understand it's not perfect, but sometimes these hires work out. Just like Fickell.
I will not be thrilled if we hire Martin, and I find some irony in some posters who ripped CBJ for his qualifications, but are excited about Martin.
That said, I will fully support Martin, even if I think it will be a mediocre hire. I am more than willing to eat crow if he comes here and finds a lot of success.
That's where I'm at. I'm in no way inspired by hiring a guy who wasn't even the lead assistant at a program he spent a decade and a half at and who has no experience as a guy making the decisions on the sideline...but I will give him a chance and hope he finds success. I simply worry that so many people want 1993 back, when that isn't the way of the world...and we're shooting our foot so many times we won't have one to stand on.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
Just give whoever is hired as the next head coach a damn chance. There is too much in-fighting and negativity in this fan base. As Mark said, there is no magic formula for finding a successful head coach. We've seen guys move up from assistant coaching positions, guys move up from smaller head coaching gigs, and guys move over from the NBA with success. NO ONE on this board knows if Erik Martin (or anyone else for that matter) will be successful. I don't know everything and neither do you. Let's rally behind whoever is the new coach and give him a fair shot at building our program to the level we all want to see it.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 12:55 PM)doss2 Wrote: Corey Blount to coach the biggies?
NVE or Anthony Buford to coach the guards?
Curtis Bostic as Strength Coach.
The band is back together.
You forgot Mike Reicheneker for 3pt specialist!
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 01:06 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: Just give whoever is hired as the next head a coach a damn chance. There is too much in-fighting and negativity in this fan base. As Mark said, there is no magic formula for finding a successful head coach. We've seen guys move up from assistant coaching positions, guys move up from smaller head coaching gigs, and guys move over from the NBA with success. NO ONE on this board knows if Erik Martin (or anyone else for that matter) will be successful. I don't know everything and neither do you. Let's rally behind whoever is the new coach and give him a fair shot at building our program to the level we all want to see it.
Yes Yes Yes. Just go through the list of the best head coaches out there. There is so much variety in how the great ones got their start. I'm always amazed when fans pretend there is some magic formula.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 12:52 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Repeat after me: There is no right formula for picking a basketball coach. Those with no head coaching experience have become hall of famers. Those who came up coaching smaller programs have become hall of famers.
Agreed, even more so at a level that isn't going to attract the same coaching candidates as a blue blood program.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 01:11 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: (04-12-2021 01:06 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: Just give whoever is hired as the next head a coach a damn chance. There is too much in-fighting and negativity in this fan base. As Mark said, there is no magic formula for finding a successful head coach. We've seen guys move up from assistant coaching positions, guys move up from smaller head coaching gigs, and guys move over from the NBA with success. NO ONE on this board knows if Erik Martin (or anyone else for that matter) will be successful. I don't know everything and neither do you. Let's rally behind whoever is the new coach and give him a fair shot at building our program to the level we all want to see it.
Yes Yes Yes. Just go through the list of the best head coaches out there. There is so much variety in how the great ones got their start. I'm always amazed when fans pretend there is some magic formula.
Great coaches win. That is one thing they have in common.
I do believe that there a certain style at UC that works based on the last 30 years.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 01:11 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: (04-12-2021 01:06 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: Just give whoever is hired as the next head a coach a damn chance. There is too much in-fighting and negativity in this fan base. As Mark said, there is no magic formula for finding a successful head coach. We've seen guys move up from assistant coaching positions, guys move up from smaller head coaching gigs, and guys move over from the NBA with success. NO ONE on this board knows if Erik Martin (or anyone else for that matter) will be successful. I don't know everything and neither do you. Let's rally behind whoever is the new coach and give him a fair shot at building our program to the level we all want to see it.
Yes Yes Yes. Just go through the list of the best head coaches out there. There is so much variety in how the great ones got their start. I'm always amazed when fans pretend there is some magic formula.
I support this line of thinking. I'd certainly hope thou that UC is doing its due diligence and interviewing more than just one or two candidates. Does anyone know who has all been interviewed or spoken to??
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 10:36 AM)Bearhawkeye Wrote: (04-12-2021 06:33 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: Ahhh... the Cincinnati self loathe rears it's ugly head again.
Everybody with half a brain knows Brannen got canned because he sucked. His perceived treatment by UC is unique to the situation. As it had been said by others before, if Brannen had a shred of honor he would have resigned and left town quietly with a negotiated settlement that UC would have been more than happy to do. Let's give credit where it's due, Tubberville did.
But no, he had to turn it into a pi$$ing match and any potential coach worth having will recognize what's going on.
And you think they are going to side with UC? Somebody will take the job of course but it won't be somebody who turned down other options at the level of our program.
Why does the next coach have to take a side? I mean, isn't it a little stupid for a guy to be defensive about what the guy before him got canned for???
Do you think Chris Mack asked Louisville in his interview "if I bring in hookers and blow, you gonna fire me too??"
If you're trying to get the job, you promote yourself and you tell your potential employer that this BS won't happen with me.
... And then if it does, fire his a$$ too.
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RE: Hiring the next hoops coach
(04-12-2021 01:04 PM)BearcatMan Wrote: (04-12-2021 01:02 PM)Banter Wrote: (04-12-2021 12:51 PM)natibeast21 Wrote: If UC fans can't at least give him a chance and rally around Martin, UC b-ball is a lost cause which it's pretty much been since Huggy with good portion of the base always biiiitchin about coach.
I understand it's not perfect, but sometimes these hires work out. Just like Fickell.
I will not be thrilled if we hire Martin, and I find some irony in some posters who ripped CBJ for his qualifications, but are excited about Martin.
That said, I will fully support Martin, even if I think it will be a mediocre hire. I am more than willing to eat crow if he comes here and finds a lot of success.
That's where I'm at. I'm in no way inspired by hiring a guy who wasn't even the lead assistant at a program he spent a decade and a half at and who has no experience as a guy making the decisions on the sideline...but I will give him a chance and hope he finds success. I simply worry that so many people want 1993 back, when that isn't the way of the world...and we're shooting our foot so many times we won't have one to stand on.
He’s been the 2nd or 3rd assistant on that staff forever. Who else wants to hire him? We are cleaning up in aisle 5 after hiring another guy nobody else wanted.
I loved Eric Martin. But this would be such a perplexing, high risk gamble of a hire. I swear we have a Magic 8 Ball making decisions nowadays.
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