(01-15-2021 10:15 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  If we are speculating on realignment with a MWC depleted of their best programs, than why not form that new SWC with C-USA West (Rice, North Texas, UTEP, LA Tech, UTSA, USM, & UAB). They could invite Colorado State, New Mexico, & Air Force. That 10 team conference could play a conference title game, and looks like a good basketball league too. Just an idea.

Or all the current Texas schools in C-USA and Texas State could move into the new WAC and teams like Tech, USM and UAB could join the conference below.

1. Middle Tennessee
2. Marshall
3. Southern Miss
4. La Tech
5. The University of Louisiana
6. ULM
7. Troy
8. USA
9. UAB
10. Georgia State
11. Georgia Southern
12. Arkansas State

ODU needs to stay in the same conference with UTEP. That's a magical road trip.

La Tech won't associate with ULaMo. UAB would rather not be around USA and Troy. There are sensitive politics involved with most every school combination.

Forming a NEW conference incurs a 5-year penalty of no automatic qualifying for NCAA tourneys, that's why nobody does it.

I'm in agreement that the Sunbelt and C-USA need to reorganize/merge/consolidate, but that's way easier said than done. It's nearly impossible, and highly unpopular, to remove a school from a conference. You have to expand to contract.

If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

Really? All the complaining on this board about the hardship of traveling across the Sahara to get to El Paso and the conference would consider inviting NMSU which tacks on a bus ride to that trip? I don't think they would do that.

(01-16-2021 02:59 PM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  ODU needs to stay in the same conference with UTEP. That's a magical road trip.

Truth. I can't imagine that others don't realize this.

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

yes and not a chance in the world would eastern schools vote for a west of UTEP

TXST is the only fbs school that makes sense for both school and conference if another western school is added. Other than ULL. Both adds something and gains something.

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

I keep see NMSU mentioned on here. They bring nothing to any conference and don't think they will be added.

(01-16-2021 04:36 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

Really? All the complaining on this board about the hardship of traveling across the Sahara to get to El Paso and the conference would consider inviting NMSU which tacks on a bus ride to that trip? I don't think they would do that.

Well, I doubt they’d add in the East. That would mean most likely either WKU or MTSU would move west thus killing the 100 miles of hate. I don’t think that happens either. And CUSA no longer has the clout to poach the sunbelt.

If TWO schools depart, then we’d better just stay at 12.

(01-16-2021 02:36 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:15 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  If we are speculating on realignment with a MWC depleted of their best programs, than why not form that new SWC with C-USA West (Rice, North Texas, UTEP, LA Tech, UTSA, USM, & UAB). They could invite Colorado State, New Mexico, & Air Force. That 10 team conference could play a conference title game, and looks like a good basketball league too. Just an idea.

Or all the current Texas schools in C-USA and Texas State could move into the new WAC and teams like Tech, USM and UAB could join the conference below.

1. Middle Tennessee
2. Marshall
3. Southern Miss
4. La Tech
5. The University of Louisiana
6. ULM
7. Troy
8. USA
9. UAB
10. Georgia State
11. Georgia Southern
12. Arkansas State

Disregarding the hurt feelings of others a lineup of USM, South Ala, Troy, UAB, ULM, La Tech, ULL, Southern U -Baton Rouge and Jackson State would create an inferno of hate, disrespect, insults, and you name it but would be a whale of an athletic conference. Thats eight conference games, four at home and four away, thus allowing for four OOC biggies. This arrangement would enable the teams to pay their bills.

(01-16-2021 04:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

yes and not a chance in the world would eastern schools vote for a west of UTEP

TXST is the only fbs school that makes sense for both school and conference if another western school is added. Other than ULL. Both adds something and gains something.

Louisiana has one of the top 2 programs in the Sunbelt every season. I think that gets them invited over Texas State.

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

yes and not a chance in the world would eastern schools vote for a west of UTEP

TXST is the only fbs school that makes sense for both school and conference if another western school is added. Other than ULL. Both adds something and gains something.

Louisiana has one of the top 2 programs in the Sunbelt every season. I think that gets them invited over Texas State.

TxSt is the most likely school in the SBC to be the first to say yes. This sets up a very short I35 rivalry and 2.5 hours with Rice. ULL does the same 2.5 to 3 hours with Tech and USM.

My personal choice would be the same as yours because while I respect ULL, Western and ULL had a good rivalry going while in the SBC. While messageboard fans dont mean crap and most dont have a clue on what their school would or wouldnt do....

I think TXST would be a sure yes. I think ULL would be 75% yes

Message board fans always want to break it down to what they think is important. Who's winning or losing today really has very little meaning. Which conference is getting the most press today. Has very little meaning.....

in the worse or best years not one of the conferences is a difference makers. Its always going to come down to which schools do I fit in better with.

ULL puts value in football and basketball and while there isnt much difference today. The history of 6 or 7 teams (Basketball) in CUSA is light years better than any one school in the SBC. Thats why I also think ULL would say yes

(01-16-2021 07:08 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:36 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

Really? All the complaining on this board about the hardship of traveling across the Sahara to get to El Paso and the conference would consider inviting NMSU which tacks on a bus ride to that trip? I don't think they would do that.

Well, I doubt they’d add in the East. That would mean most likely either WKU or MTSU would move west thus killing the 100 miles of hate. I don’t think that happens either. And CUSA no longer has the clout to poach the sunbelt.

If TWO schools depart, then we’d better just stay at 12.

I’d just as soon play with 13 as add another TX school or NMSU.

(01-16-2021 07:48 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

yes and not a chance in the world would eastern schools vote for a west of UTEP

TXST is the only fbs school that makes sense for both school and conference if another western school is added. Other than ULL. Both adds something and gains something.

Louisiana has one of the top 2 programs in the Sunbelt every season. I think that gets them invited over Texas State.

TxSt is the most likely school in the SBC to be the first to say yes. This sets up a very short I35 rivalry and 2.5 hours with Rice. ULL does the same 2.5 to 3 hours with Tech and USM.

My personal choice would be the same as yours because while I respect ULL, Western and ULL had a good rivalry going while in the SBC. While messageboard fans dont mean crap and most dont have a clue on what their school would or wouldnt do....

I think TXST would be a sure yes. I think ULL would be 75% yes

Message board fans always want to break it down to what they think is important. Who's winning or losing today really has very little meaning. Which conference is getting the most press today. Has very little meaning.....

in the worse or best years not one of the conferences is a difference makers. Its always going to come down to which schools do I fit in better with.

ULL puts value in football and basketball and while there isnt much difference today. The history of 6 or 7 teams (Basketball) in CUSA is light years better than any one school in the SBC. Thats why I also think ULL would say yes

Txst would probably say yes and I think all parties are happy since they are an outlier for SBC and seem to have some mental block against succeeding at football. Maybe Cusa west is what they need.

I doubt ULLLlLlL would be super interested. They would take a multi million dollar hit to get less $$$ every year and fight over the same one bid to the dance. I just don’t see what’s in it for them besides playing in smelly Ruston once every two years.

(01-16-2021 02:36 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:15 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  If we are speculating on realignment with a MWC depleted of their best programs, than why not form that new SWC with C-USA West (Rice, North Texas, UTEP, LA Tech, UTSA, USM, & UAB). They could invite Colorado State, New Mexico, & Air Force. That 10 team conference could play a conference title game, and looks like a good basketball league too. Just an idea.

Or all the current Texas schools in C-USA and Texas State could move into the new WAC and teams like Tech, USM and UAB could join the conference below.

1. Middle Tennessee
2. Marshall
3. Southern Miss
4. La Tech
5. The University of Louisiana
6. ULM
7. Troy
8. USA
9. UAB
10. Georgia State
11. Georgia Southern
12. Arkansas State

(01-16-2021 10:19 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:28 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(01-15-2021 10:15 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  If we are speculating on realignment with a MWC depleted of their best programs, than why not form that new SWC with C-USA West (Rice, North Texas, UTEP, LA Tech, UTSA, USM, & UAB). They could invite Colorado State, New Mexico, & Air Force. That 10 team conference could play a conference title game, and looks like a good basketball league too. Just an idea.

Now you're talking. I could definitely go for that.

If you need 12, Utah St and BYU would be great adds. BYU learned the value of being in a football conference this past season. They may have some interest if nearby USU were to join as well.

I’m in. This is much preferred over the East-driven voluntary combination with the Sunbelt western programs. ULM is a poison pill.

Don't forget Little Rock and UT-A. Those basketball programs also create issues.

(01-16-2021 08:11 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:48 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:29 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  If UTEP was the only school to leave, I would imagine CUSA would make a play for TXST or NMSU.

yes and not a chance in the world would eastern schools vote for a west of UTEP

TXST is the only fbs school that makes sense for both school and conference if another western school is added. Other than ULL. Both adds something and gains something.

Louisiana has one of the top 2 programs in the Sunbelt every season. I think that gets them invited over Texas State.

TxSt is the most likely school in the SBC to be the first to say yes. This sets up a very short I35 rivalry and 2.5 hours with Rice. ULL does the same 2.5 to 3 hours with Tech and USM.

My personal choice would be the same as yours because while I respect ULL, Western and ULL had a good rivalry going while in the SBC. While messageboard fans dont mean crap and most dont have a clue on what their school would or wouldnt do....

I think TXST would be a sure yes. I think ULL would be 75% yes

Message board fans always want to break it down to what they think is important. Who's winning or losing today really has very little meaning. Which conference is getting the most press today. Has very little meaning.....

in the worse or best years not one of the conferences is a difference makers. Its always going to come down to which schools do I fit in better with.

ULL puts value in football and basketball and while there isnt much difference today. The history of 6 or 7 teams (Basketball) in CUSA is light years better than any one school in the SBC. Thats why I also think ULL would say yes

Txst would probably say yes and I think all parties are happy since they are an outlier for SBC and seem to have some mental block against succeeding at football. Maybe Cusa west is what they need.

I doubt ULLLlLlL would be super interested. They would take a multi million dollar hit to get less $$$ every year and fight over the same one bid to the dance. I just don’t see what’s in it for them besides playing in smelly Ruston once every two years.

CUSA West can invite TXST when they split off from the conference otherwise you can keep them.

(01-16-2021 08:52 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 08:11 PM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:48 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 07:28 PM)Ourland Wrote:  

(01-16-2021 04:42 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  yes and not a chance in the world would eastern schools vote for a west of UTEP

TXST is the only fbs school that makes sense for both school and conference if another western school is added. Other than ULL. Both adds something and gains something.

Louisiana has one of the top 2 programs in the Sunbelt every season. I think that gets them invited over Texas State.

TxSt is the most likely school in the SBC to be the first to say yes. This sets up a very short I35 rivalry and 2.5 hours with Rice. ULL does the same 2.5 to 3 hours with Tech and USM.

My personal choice would be the same as yours because while I respect ULL, Western and ULL had a good rivalry going while in the SBC. While messageboard fans dont mean crap and most dont have a clue on what their school would or wouldnt do....

I think TXST would be a sure yes. I think ULL would be 75% yes

Message board fans always want to break it down to what they think is important. Who's winning or losing today really has very little meaning. Which conference is getting the most press today. Has very little meaning.....

in the worse or best years not one of the conferences is a difference makers. Its always going to come down to which schools do I fit in better with.

ULL puts value in football and basketball and while there isnt much difference today. The history of 6 or 7 teams (Basketball) in CUSA is light years better than any one school in the SBC. Thats why I also think ULL would say yes

Txst would probably say yes and I think all parties are happy since they are an outlier for SBC and seem to have some mental block against succeeding at football. Maybe Cusa west is what they need.

I doubt ULLLlLlL would be super interested. They would take a multi million dollar hit to get less $$$ every year and fight over the same one bid to the dance. I just don’t see what’s in it for them besides playing in smelly Ruston once every two years.

CUSA West can invite TXST when they split off from the conference otherwise you can keep them.

Why would C-USA West want to add Texas State? What would be the benefit to us?

(01-16-2021 01:01 PM)michael.stevens.3110 Wrote:  The PAC are VERY CONCERNED about their financial disadvantage to the other P5 schools and to the AAC “incursion” into what they believe to be their Market Area ...Boise and San Diego both have potential to be very successful in the AAC at a time when interest in College Sports for PAC is waning...The PAC are analyzing whether it would be Financially to their advantage to enter the Texas market and the Central Time Zone by adding Academic Powerhouses Rice University and SMU ...We will see how this plays out ....!!!


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That doesn't make any sense. You are suggesting that the PAC XII will cede the west coast cities to the AAC and make it even worse by trying to penetrate the Texas market by adding two very small private schools that don't even control their own markets?

The Presidents of the Academic Institutions in the PAC would Never go for Boise and SanDiego....The PAC Badly Needs access to recruiting in the Texas Market and to Central Time Zone Kickoffs...It would take a MAJOR EFFort from Both Rice and SMU


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