(12-16-2020 09:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 07:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 04:31 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Aresco on the Paul Finebaum Show right now. Per Aresco, we have reached a crossroads with the committee. After watching the show last night, if this continues let's bring back the BCS and the computers. The deck is stack against the non-autonomous schools. Committee is undermining their credibility. This is not just him saying this, there are multiple media outlets saying so (Brando, Forde, etc.)

The analysis coming forth with these games are P5 echo chambers. Saying that by any measure of the eye test, UC is better than Iowa State and some others based on the talent on the team. Quoted George Orwell "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." Also spoke up for CCU and Louisiana.

Critical of comment by committee UC has not played Top 25 teams as they were ranked at the time. Said UCF better than most P5 teams and so was UC opponent Army.

The committee needs to look hard to see if they had made this a P5 Invitational.

Aresco has made calls to multiple committee members today. It was a cordial conversation and the CFP committee members were respectful.

SEC not as good as it has been as it was in the past top to bottom. SEC is 3-5, depleted roster.

Ohio State has played 5 games and 4/5 teams they played are struggling. You can't just look at this through a P5 prism.

CFP Committee refuses to use Eye Test for Cincinnati. 17 All-Conference players. Great coaching. Numbers of Players that will go to the NFL. Give UC a shot at the playoffs- we don't know what will happened. This is a good team.

We are not satisfied with playing NY6 Bowls with teams this good.

If UC had a 17 point loss at home against a SBC team they would be out of the Top 25.

If you are not playing a full season (B1G, PAC12) you are not undergoing risk of wear and tear, injury, fluke losses that other leagues are dealing with. There is no penalty or scrutiny. With AAC, you miss a couple games due to CV19 and there is a double season.

You are what your records says you are.

I am glad Aresco is waving the AAC banner on national TV - he is good at that.

But I do not get the slobbering over Cincy. Cincy does not have a great resume. They are 8-0, with wins over no ranked teams (and no, "ranked at the time" means nothing). Their very best win is over Army, an Army team that was manhandled by Tulane and set football back 70 years in their Cro-Magnon win against Navy.

They do not have great "eye test" visuals either. Their last win was 36-33 over a down UCF team. A month or so ago, Cincy looked great because they had squashed three well-regarded teams - Memphis, SMU and Houston - in succession, and because they had played as many or more games as anyone else at that time. But both of those things are gone - those teams aren't as good as we thought they were, and after sitting out for going on a month now, Cincy has fallen off the "data points" pace. Of the teams ranked in the top 12, Cincy has played fewer games than 10 of them and more than only one of them - Indiana, by one game, and Indiana is a team that started playing five weeks after Cincy did. How can Aresco talk about playing and wear-and-tear?

Cincy is probably about the 7th or 8th best team in the country. That makes them a VERY good football team, better than 94% or so of all the teams out there. But Top 4? No evidence for that.

Way to single out Cincinnati over Army as "very best win"
Cincinnati wins:
UCF Massey Composite 25
Army 48
Memphis 50
SMU 51
Houston 62

So definitely not "very best" and an eyelash difference between Army, Memphis, SMU. Army's not even the best "ranked at the time" win Cincinnati has - SMU was #16 when Cincinnati beat them a month after Cincinnati beat then-#22 Army.

Coastal's best wins over BYU and Louisiana check the quality wins box. But one was by a yard-and-a-half and the other was by a field goal at 8 seconds left. Coastal's other last minute win over #90 ranked Troy, and then the collection of triple-digit-ranked opponents don't help "strength of record" or "game control" or the other things the committee (whom we hate and don't trust, ha ha) talks about.

Just to further make the point.............


Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Nebraska #77. -- Austin Peay FCS
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Rutgers #85. -- USF #116
Indiana #10. -- SMU #51
Michigan St #80. – Memphis #50
Northwestern #18. -- Houston #62
Nobody. -- ECU #94
Nobody. -- UCF #25
Nobody. -- Tulsa #22

Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

If it wasn't for Michigan canceling and then OSU getting to play in the championship game it would look even worse, since Michigan would drag their average down further. Adding in NW makes the schedule okay, otherwise that schedule is trash and the average 60ish with one good team and one okay team.

In fact OSU's top two wins would be better but Cincy would average 43 for its top six wins almost ten spots better than OSU and with its worst opponent (Houston 62) better than half of OSU's victories.

(12-16-2020 09:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Here you go.

https://twitter.com/BCSKnowHow/status/13...9199104000

Right, but #6 will not get them in the Top 4, to make the playoffs.

The BCS simulation has never had a playoff team different than what the CFP has produced.

(12-16-2020 10:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:27 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Here you go.

https://twitter.com/BCSKnowHow/status/13...9199104000

Right, but #6 will not get them in the Top 4, to make the playoffs.

The BCS simulation has never had a playoff team different than what the CFP has produced.

Except for it would put them in position to be, because a Florida loss will hurt Texas AnM and a ND or Clemson loss will hurt them, while Cincy would be adding a ranked win. Meaning that it would be very possible for a play off spot after the conference championships, which is not currently the setting going into Saturday.

The Massey Composite has the correct alignment in my opinion, with Cincy being #5, then AnM, Georgia, Iowa St, BYU, Indiana at ten and Oklahoma, USC rounding out the top ten. That seems accurate to me with Florida, Coastal, and Iowa top 15. The only oddity seems to be Iowa everyone else seems correct on record and who they have played.

(12-16-2020 09:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 07:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 04:31 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Aresco on the Paul Finebaum Show right now. Per Aresco, we have reached a crossroads with the committee. After watching the show last night, if this continues let's bring back the BCS and the computers. The deck is stack against the non-autonomous schools. Committee is undermining their credibility. This is not just him saying this, there are multiple media outlets saying so (Brando, Forde, etc.)

The analysis coming forth with these games are P5 echo chambers. Saying that by any measure of the eye test, UC is better than Iowa State and some others based on the talent on the team. Quoted George Orwell "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." Also spoke up for CCU and Louisiana.

Critical of comment by committee UC has not played Top 25 teams as they were ranked at the time. Said UCF better than most P5 teams and so was UC opponent Army.

The committee needs to look hard to see if they had made this a P5 Invitational.

Aresco has made calls to multiple committee members today. It was a cordial conversation and the CFP committee members were respectful.

SEC not as good as it has been as it was in the past top to bottom. SEC is 3-5, depleted roster.

Ohio State has played 5 games and 4/5 teams they played are struggling. You can't just look at this through a P5 prism.

CFP Committee refuses to use Eye Test for Cincinnati. 17 All-Conference players. Great coaching. Numbers of Players that will go to the NFL. Give UC a shot at the playoffs- we don't know what will happened. This is a good team.

We are not satisfied with playing NY6 Bowls with teams this good.

If UC had a 17 point loss at home against a SBC team they would be out of the Top 25.

If you are not playing a full season (B1G, PAC12) you are not undergoing risk of wear and tear, injury, fluke losses that other leagues are dealing with. There is no penalty or scrutiny. With AAC, you miss a couple games due to CV19 and there is a double season.

You are what your records says you are.

I am glad Aresco is waving the AAC banner on national TV - he is good at that.

But I do not get the slobbering over Cincy. Cincy does not have a great resume. They are 8-0, with wins over no ranked teams (and no, "ranked at the time" means nothing). Their very best win is over Army, an Army team that was manhandled by Tulane and set football back 70 years in their Cro-Magnon win against Navy.

They do not have great "eye test" visuals either. Their last win was 36-33 over a down UCF team. A month or so ago, Cincy looked great because they had squashed three well-regarded teams - Memphis, SMU and Houston - in succession, and because they had played as many or more games as anyone else at that time. But both of those things are gone - those teams aren't as good as we thought they were, and after sitting out for going on a month now, Cincy has fallen off the "data points" pace. Of the teams ranked in the top 12, Cincy has played fewer games than 10 of them and more than only one of them - Indiana, by one game, and Indiana is a team that started playing five weeks after Cincy did. How can Aresco talk about playing and wear-and-tear?

Cincy is probably about the 7th or 8th best team in the country. That makes them a VERY good football team, better than 94% or so of all the teams out there. But Top 4? No evidence for that.

Way to single out Cincinnati over Army as "very best win"
Cincinnati wins:
UCF Massey Composite 25
Army 48
Memphis 50
SMU 51
Houston 62

So definitely not "very best" and an eyelash difference between Army, Memphis, SMU. Army's not even the best "ranked at the time" win Cincinnati has - SMU was #16 when Cincinnati beat them a month after Cincinnati beat then-#22 Army.

Coastal's best wins over BYU and Louisiana check the quality wins box. But one was by a yard-and-a-half and the other was by a field goal at 8 seconds left. Coastal's other last minute win over #90 ranked Troy, and then the collection of triple-digit-ranked opponents don't help "strength of record" or "game control" or the other things the committee (whom we hate and don't trust, ha ha) talks about.

The MC is of little value this year, but I thought I was doing Cincy a favor by calling Army their best win. If you want to put up a 6-3 UCF team that has been out of the running for anything since mid-October as the best win, be my guest.

Also, I was addressing the issue of Cincy's playoff worthiness, as that seemed to be what Aresco was talking about. I don't think anyone is talking up Coastal as a playoff team, so not sure that is relevant here. FWIW though, that comparison is telling - Coastal is not a playoff candidate despite a resume' that compares well with Cincy's in some key ways - three more games played and won, and two wins against CFP ranked teams to zero for Cincy. That tells me something about Cincy as a playoff candidate.

(12-16-2020 10:39 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 07:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 04:31 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Aresco on the Paul Finebaum Show right now. Per Aresco, we have reached a crossroads with the committee. After watching the show last night, if this continues let's bring back the BCS and the computers. The deck is stack against the non-autonomous schools. Committee is undermining their credibility. This is not just him saying this, there are multiple media outlets saying so (Brando, Forde, etc.)

The analysis coming forth with these games are P5 echo chambers. Saying that by any measure of the eye test, UC is better than Iowa State and some others based on the talent on the team. Quoted George Orwell "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." Also spoke up for CCU and Louisiana.

Critical of comment by committee UC has not played Top 25 teams as they were ranked at the time. Said UCF better than most P5 teams and so was UC opponent Army.

The committee needs to look hard to see if they had made this a P5 Invitational.

Aresco has made calls to multiple committee members today. It was a cordial conversation and the CFP committee members were respectful.

SEC not as good as it has been as it was in the past top to bottom. SEC is 3-5, depleted roster.

Ohio State has played 5 games and 4/5 teams they played are struggling. You can't just look at this through a P5 prism.

CFP Committee refuses to use Eye Test for Cincinnati. 17 All-Conference players. Great coaching. Numbers of Players that will go to the NFL. Give UC a shot at the playoffs- we don't know what will happened. This is a good team.

We are not satisfied with playing NY6 Bowls with teams this good.

If UC had a 17 point loss at home against a SBC team they would be out of the Top 25.

If you are not playing a full season (B1G, PAC12) you are not undergoing risk of wear and tear, injury, fluke losses that other leagues are dealing with. There is no penalty or scrutiny. With AAC, you miss a couple games due to CV19 and there is a double season.

You are what your records says you are.

I am glad Aresco is waving the AAC banner on national TV - he is good at that.

But I do not get the slobbering over Cincy. Cincy does not have a great resume. They are 8-0, with wins over no ranked teams (and no, "ranked at the time" means nothing). Their very best win is over Army, an Army team that was manhandled by Tulane and set football back 70 years in their Cro-Magnon win against Navy.

They do not have great "eye test" visuals either. Their last win was 36-33 over a down UCF team. A month or so ago, Cincy looked great because they had squashed three well-regarded teams - Memphis, SMU and Houston - in succession, and because they had played as many or more games as anyone else at that time. But both of those things are gone - those teams aren't as good as we thought they were, and after sitting out for going on a month now, Cincy has fallen off the "data points" pace. Of the teams ranked in the top 12, Cincy has played fewer games than 10 of them and more than only one of them - Indiana, by one game, and Indiana is a team that started playing five weeks after Cincy did. How can Aresco talk about playing and wear-and-tear?

Cincy is probably about the 7th or 8th best team in the country. That makes them a VERY good football team, better than 94% or so of all the teams out there. But Top 4? No evidence for that.

Way to single out Cincinnati over Army as "very best win"
Cincinnati wins:
UCF Massey Composite 25
Army 48
Memphis 50
SMU 51
Houston 62

So definitely not "very best" and an eyelash difference between Army, Memphis, SMU. Army's not even the best "ranked at the time" win Cincinnati has - SMU was #16 when Cincinnati beat them a month after Cincinnati beat then-#22 Army.

Coastal's best wins over BYU and Louisiana check the quality wins box. But one was by a yard-and-a-half and the other was by a field goal at 8 seconds left. Coastal's other last minute win over #90 ranked Troy, and then the collection of triple-digit-ranked opponents don't help "strength of record" or "game control" or the other things the committee (whom we hate and don't trust, ha ha) talks about.

Just to further make the point.............


Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Nebraska #77. -- Austin Peay FCS
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Rutgers #85. -- USF #116
Indiana #10. -- SMU #51
Michigan St #80. – Memphis #50
Northwestern #18. -- Houston #62
Nobody. -- ECU #94
Nobody. -- UCF #25
Nobody. -- Tulsa #22

Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

If it wasn't for Michigan canceling and then OSU getting to play in the championship game it would look even worse, since Michigan would drag their average down further. Adding in NW makes the schedule okay, otherwise that schedule is trash and the average 60ish with one good team and one okay team.

In fact OSU's top two wins would be better but Cincy would average 43 for its top six wins almost ten spots better than OSU and with its worst opponent (Houston 62) better than half of OSU's victories.

I like it even better when you compare best against best, second best against second best etc...

Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Indiana #10. -- UCF #25
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Nebraska #77 -- Memphis #50
Michigan St #80 -- SMU #51
Rutgers #85 -- Houston #62
Nobody -- ECU #94
Nobody -- USF #116
Nobody -- Austin Peay FCS

CCG This week
Northwestern #18. -- Tulsa #22


Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

(12-16-2020 11:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 10:39 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 07:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 04:31 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Aresco on the Paul Finebaum Show right now. Per Aresco, we have reached a crossroads with the committee. After watching the show last night, if this continues let's bring back the BCS and the computers. The deck is stack against the non-autonomous schools. Committee is undermining their credibility. This is not just him saying this, there are multiple media outlets saying so (Brando, Forde, etc.)

The analysis coming forth with these games are P5 echo chambers. Saying that by any measure of the eye test, UC is better than Iowa State and some others based on the talent on the team. Quoted George Orwell "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." Also spoke up for CCU and Louisiana.

Critical of comment by committee UC has not played Top 25 teams as they were ranked at the time. Said UCF better than most P5 teams and so was UC opponent Army.

The committee needs to look hard to see if they had made this a P5 Invitational.

Aresco has made calls to multiple committee members today. It was a cordial conversation and the CFP committee members were respectful.

SEC not as good as it has been as it was in the past top to bottom. SEC is 3-5, depleted roster.

Ohio State has played 5 games and 4/5 teams they played are struggling. You can't just look at this through a P5 prism.

CFP Committee refuses to use Eye Test for Cincinnati. 17 All-Conference players. Great coaching. Numbers of Players that will go to the NFL. Give UC a shot at the playoffs- we don't know what will happened. This is a good team.

We are not satisfied with playing NY6 Bowls with teams this good.

If UC had a 17 point loss at home against a SBC team they would be out of the Top 25.

If you are not playing a full season (B1G, PAC12) you are not undergoing risk of wear and tear, injury, fluke losses that other leagues are dealing with. There is no penalty or scrutiny. With AAC, you miss a couple games due to CV19 and there is a double season.

You are what your records says you are.

I am glad Aresco is waving the AAC banner on national TV - he is good at that.

But I do not get the slobbering over Cincy. Cincy does not have a great resume. They are 8-0, with wins over no ranked teams (and no, "ranked at the time" means nothing). Their very best win is over Army, an Army team that was manhandled by Tulane and set football back 70 years in their Cro-Magnon win against Navy.

They do not have great "eye test" visuals either. Their last win was 36-33 over a down UCF team. A month or so ago, Cincy looked great because they had squashed three well-regarded teams - Memphis, SMU and Houston - in succession, and because they had played as many or more games as anyone else at that time. But both of those things are gone - those teams aren't as good as we thought they were, and after sitting out for going on a month now, Cincy has fallen off the "data points" pace. Of the teams ranked in the top 12, Cincy has played fewer games than 10 of them and more than only one of them - Indiana, by one game, and Indiana is a team that started playing five weeks after Cincy did. How can Aresco talk about playing and wear-and-tear?

Cincy is probably about the 7th or 8th best team in the country. That makes them a VERY good football team, better than 94% or so of all the teams out there. But Top 4? No evidence for that.

Way to single out Cincinnati over Army as "very best win"
Cincinnati wins:
UCF Massey Composite 25
Army 48
Memphis 50
SMU 51
Houston 62

So definitely not "very best" and an eyelash difference between Army, Memphis, SMU. Army's not even the best "ranked at the time" win Cincinnati has - SMU was #16 when Cincinnati beat them a month after Cincinnati beat then-#22 Army.

Coastal's best wins over BYU and Louisiana check the quality wins box. But one was by a yard-and-a-half and the other was by a field goal at 8 seconds left. Coastal's other last minute win over #90 ranked Troy, and then the collection of triple-digit-ranked opponents don't help "strength of record" or "game control" or the other things the committee (whom we hate and don't trust, ha ha) talks about.

Just to further make the point.............


Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Nebraska #77. -- Austin Peay FCS
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Rutgers #85. -- USF #116
Indiana #10. -- SMU #51
Michigan St #80. – Memphis #50
Northwestern #18. -- Houston #62
Nobody. -- ECU #94
Nobody. -- UCF #25
Nobody. -- Tulsa #22

Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

If it wasn't for Michigan canceling and then OSU getting to play in the championship game it would look even worse, since Michigan would drag their average down further. Adding in NW makes the schedule okay, otherwise that schedule is trash and the average 60ish with one good team and one okay team.

In fact OSU's top two wins would be better but Cincy would average 43 for its top six wins almost ten spots better than OSU and with its worst opponent (Houston 62) better than half of OSU's victories.

I like it even better when you compare best against best, second best against second best etc...

Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Indiana #10. -- UCF #25
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Nebraska #77 -- Memphis #50
Michigan St #80 -- SMU #51
Rutgers #85 -- Houston #62
Nobody -- ECU #94
Nobody -- USF #116
Nobody -- Austin Peay FCS

CCG This week
Northwestern #18. -- Tulsa #22


Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

And you can keep going...why is 2-loss Georgia ahead of Cincinnati? Whom have they beaten?

Record: 7-2 --- Record 8-0
Georgia Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Auburn #27 -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Kentucky #60 -- Memphis #50
Tennessee #68 -- SMU #51
Arkansas #75 -- Houston #62
Mississippi St #91 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
BAD LOSSES to top teams -- W over Austin Peay FCS

(12-16-2020 11:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 10:39 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 07:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I am glad Aresco is waving the AAC banner on national TV - he is good at that.

But I do not get the slobbering over Cincy. Cincy does not have a great resume. They are 8-0, with wins over no ranked teams (and no, "ranked at the time" means nothing). Their very best win is over Army, an Army team that was manhandled by Tulane and set football back 70 years in their Cro-Magnon win against Navy.

They do not have great "eye test" visuals either. Their last win was 36-33 over a down UCF team. A month or so ago, Cincy looked great because they had squashed three well-regarded teams - Memphis, SMU and Houston - in succession, and because they had played as many or more games as anyone else at that time. But both of those things are gone - those teams aren't as good as we thought they were, and after sitting out for going on a month now, Cincy has fallen off the "data points" pace. Of the teams ranked in the top 12, Cincy has played fewer games than 10 of them and more than only one of them - Indiana, by one game, and Indiana is a team that started playing five weeks after Cincy did. How can Aresco talk about playing and wear-and-tear?

Cincy is probably about the 7th or 8th best team in the country. That makes them a VERY good football team, better than 94% or so of all the teams out there. But Top 4? No evidence for that.

Way to single out Cincinnati over Army as "very best win"
Cincinnati wins:
UCF Massey Composite 25
Army 48
Memphis 50
SMU 51
Houston 62

So definitely not "very best" and an eyelash difference between Army, Memphis, SMU. Army's not even the best "ranked at the time" win Cincinnati has - SMU was #16 when Cincinnati beat them a month after Cincinnati beat then-#22 Army.

Coastal's best wins over BYU and Louisiana check the quality wins box. But one was by a yard-and-a-half and the other was by a field goal at 8 seconds left. Coastal's other last minute win over #90 ranked Troy, and then the collection of triple-digit-ranked opponents don't help "strength of record" or "game control" or the other things the committee (whom we hate and don't trust, ha ha) talks about.

Just to further make the point.............


Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Nebraska #77. -- Austin Peay FCS
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Rutgers #85. -- USF #116
Indiana #10. -- SMU #51
Michigan St #80. – Memphis #50
Northwestern #18. -- Houston #62
Nobody. -- ECU #94
Nobody. -- UCF #25
Nobody. -- Tulsa #22

Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

If it wasn't for Michigan canceling and then OSU getting to play in the championship game it would look even worse, since Michigan would drag their average down further. Adding in NW makes the schedule okay, otherwise that schedule is trash and the average 60ish with one good team and one okay team.

In fact OSU's top two wins would be better but Cincy would average 43 for its top six wins almost ten spots better than OSU and with its worst opponent (Houston 62) better than half of OSU's victories.

I like it even better when you compare best against best, second best against second best etc...

Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Indiana #10. -- UCF #25
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Nebraska #77 -- Memphis #50
Michigan St #80 -- SMU #51
Rutgers #85 -- Houston #62
Nobody -- ECU #94
Nobody -- USF #116
Nobody -- Austin Peay FCS

CCG This week
Northwestern #18. -- Tulsa #22


Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

And you can keep going...why is 2-loss Georgia ahead of Cincinnati? Whom have they beaten?

Record: 7-2 --- Record 8-0
Georgia Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Auburn #27 -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Kentucky #60 -- Memphis #50
Arkansas #75 -- SMU #51
Rutgers #85 -- Houston #62
Mississippi St #91 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
BAD LOSSES to top teams -- W over Austin Peay FCS

Iowa St holds up better, but the losses hurt, as does Texas Tech 83, Baylor 86, and Kansas 122.

Losses to Louisiana 20 in a blow out they were never in at home and OSU 21 on the road. They beat Baylor and OU by a touchdown, and Texas and TCU by a field goal. Those aren't the dominating wins the committee talks about being important, or punishment for losing at home.

(12-16-2020 11:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 10:39 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 07:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I am glad Aresco is waving the AAC banner on national TV - he is good at that.

But I do not get the slobbering over Cincy. Cincy does not have a great resume. They are 8-0, with wins over no ranked teams (and no, "ranked at the time" means nothing). Their very best win is over Army, an Army team that was manhandled by Tulane and set football back 70 years in their Cro-Magnon win against Navy.

They do not have great "eye test" visuals either. Their last win was 36-33 over a down UCF team. A month or so ago, Cincy looked great because they had squashed three well-regarded teams - Memphis, SMU and Houston - in succession, and because they had played as many or more games as anyone else at that time. But both of those things are gone - those teams aren't as good as we thought they were, and after sitting out for going on a month now, Cincy has fallen off the "data points" pace. Of the teams ranked in the top 12, Cincy has played fewer games than 10 of them and more than only one of them - Indiana, by one game, and Indiana is a team that started playing five weeks after Cincy did. How can Aresco talk about playing and wear-and-tear?

Cincy is probably about the 7th or 8th best team in the country. That makes them a VERY good football team, better than 94% or so of all the teams out there. But Top 4? No evidence for that.

Way to single out Cincinnati over Army as "very best win"
Cincinnati wins:
UCF Massey Composite 25
Army 48
Memphis 50
SMU 51
Houston 62

So definitely not "very best" and an eyelash difference between Army, Memphis, SMU. Army's not even the best "ranked at the time" win Cincinnati has - SMU was #16 when Cincinnati beat them a month after Cincinnati beat then-#22 Army.

Coastal's best wins over BYU and Louisiana check the quality wins box. But one was by a yard-and-a-half and the other was by a field goal at 8 seconds left. Coastal's other last minute win over #90 ranked Troy, and then the collection of triple-digit-ranked opponents don't help "strength of record" or "game control" or the other things the committee (whom we hate and don't trust, ha ha) talks about.

Just to further make the point.............


Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Nebraska #77. -- Austin Peay FCS
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Rutgers #85. -- USF #116
Indiana #10. -- SMU #51
Michigan St #80. – Memphis #50
Northwestern #18. -- Houston #62
Nobody. -- ECU #94
Nobody. -- UCF #25
Nobody. -- Tulsa #22

Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

If it wasn't for Michigan canceling and then OSU getting to play in the championship game it would look even worse, since Michigan would drag their average down further. Adding in NW makes the schedule okay, otherwise that schedule is trash and the average 60ish with one good team and one okay team.

In fact OSU's top two wins would be better but Cincy would average 43 for its top six wins almost ten spots better than OSU and with its worst opponent (Houston 62) better than half of OSU's victories.

I like it even better when you compare best against best, second best against second best etc...

Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Indiana #10. -- UCF #25
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Nebraska #77 -- Memphis #50
Michigan St #80 -- SMU #51
Rutgers #85 -- Houston #62
Nobody -- ECU #94
Nobody -- USF #116
Nobody -- Austin Peay FCS

CCG This week
Northwestern #18. -- Tulsa #22


Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

And you can keep going...why is 2-loss Georgia ahead of Cincinnati? Whom have they beaten?

Record: 7-2 --- Record 8-0
Georgia Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Auburn #27 -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Kentucky #60 -- Memphis #50
Tennessee #68 -- SMU #51
Arkansas #75 -- Houston #62
Mississippi St #91 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
BAD LOSSES to top teams -- W over Austin Peay FCS

And 8-2 Florida? Whom have the Gators beaten?
Record: 8-2 --- Record 8-0
Florida Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Georgia # 9 CFP -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Mississippi #54 -- Memphis #50
Kentucky #60 -- SMU #51
Tennessee #68 -- Houston #62
Arkansas #75 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
Vanderbilt #120 -- Austin Peay FCS
Loss to 4-5 LSU
Loss to Texas A&M

Only better win is the Georgia team whose schedule I dissected above. Does that outweigh 2 losses? Including to a 4-5 team at home?

(12-16-2020 11:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 10:39 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 09:32 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Way to single out Cincinnati over Army as "very best win"
Cincinnati wins:
UCF Massey Composite 25
Army 48
Memphis 50
SMU 51
Houston 62

So definitely not "very best" and an eyelash difference between Army, Memphis, SMU. Army's not even the best "ranked at the time" win Cincinnati has - SMU was #16 when Cincinnati beat them a month after Cincinnati beat then-#22 Army.

Coastal's best wins over BYU and Louisiana check the quality wins box. But one was by a yard-and-a-half and the other was by a field goal at 8 seconds left. Coastal's other last minute win over #90 ranked Troy, and then the collection of triple-digit-ranked opponents don't help "strength of record" or "game control" or the other things the committee (whom we hate and don't trust, ha ha) talks about.

Just to further make the point.............


Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Nebraska #77. -- Austin Peay FCS
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Rutgers #85. -- USF #116
Indiana #10. -- SMU #51
Michigan St #80. – Memphis #50
Northwestern #18. -- Houston #62
Nobody. -- ECU #94
Nobody. -- UCF #25
Nobody. -- Tulsa #22

Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

If it wasn't for Michigan canceling and then OSU getting to play in the championship game it would look even worse, since Michigan would drag their average down further. Adding in NW makes the schedule okay, otherwise that schedule is trash and the average 60ish with one good team and one okay team.

In fact OSU's top two wins would be better but Cincy would average 43 for its top six wins almost ten spots better than OSU and with its worst opponent (Houston 62) better than half of OSU's victories.

I like it even better when you compare best against best, second best against second best etc...

Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Indiana #10. -- UCF #25
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Nebraska #77 -- Memphis #50
Michigan St #80 -- SMU #51
Rutgers #85 -- Houston #62
Nobody -- ECU #94
Nobody -- USF #116
Nobody -- Austin Peay FCS

CCG This week
Northwestern #18. -- Tulsa #22


Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

And you can keep going...why is 2-loss Georgia ahead of Cincinnati? Whom have they beaten?

Record: 7-2 --- Record 8-0
Georgia Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Auburn #27 -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Kentucky #60 -- Memphis #50
Tennessee #68 -- SMU #51
Arkansas #75 -- Houston #62
Mississippi St #91 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
BAD LOSSES to top teams -- W over Austin Peay FCS

And 8-2 Florida? Whom have the Gators beaten?
Record: 8-2 --- Record 8-0
Florida Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Georgia # 9 CFP -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Mississippi #54 -- Memphis #50
Kentucky #60 -- SMU #51
Tennessee #68 -- Houston #62
Arkansas #75 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
Vanderbilt #120 -- Austin Peay FCS
Loss to 4-5 LSU
Loss to Texas A&M

Only better win is the Georgia team whose schedule I dissected above. Does that outweigh 2 losses? Including to a 4-5 team at home?

Forever already mentioned Iowa State (quickly enough that my error in UGA from copying OSU's sked is still in the quote box).

Yes wins over Oklahoma and Texas are #11 and #19 in Massey Composite, and TCU is even #21...but the rest:
L to #21 Oklahoma State and L to #20 Louisiana...2-2 vs top 20 should put you, around, I don't know, 20?
Wins over: #41 WVU, #70 KState, #83 Texas Tech, #86 Baylor, #122 Kansas

That's an 8-2 #6 in the nation resume?

(12-16-2020 11:39 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 10:39 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  Just to further make the point.............


Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Nebraska #77. -- Austin Peay FCS
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Rutgers #85. -- USF #116
Indiana #10. -- SMU #51
Michigan St #80. – Memphis #50
Northwestern #18. -- Houston #62
Nobody. -- ECU #94
Nobody. -- UCF #25
Nobody. -- Tulsa #22

Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

If it wasn't for Michigan canceling and then OSU getting to play in the championship game it would look even worse, since Michigan would drag their average down further. Adding in NW makes the schedule okay, otherwise that schedule is trash and the average 60ish with one good team and one okay team.

In fact OSU's top two wins would be better but Cincy would average 43 for its top six wins almost ten spots better than OSU and with its worst opponent (Houston 62) better than half of OSU's victories.

I like it even better when you compare best against best, second best against second best etc...

Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Indiana #10. -- UCF #25
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Nebraska #77 -- Memphis #50
Michigan St #80 -- SMU #51
Rutgers #85 -- Houston #62
Nobody -- ECU #94
Nobody -- USF #116
Nobody -- Austin Peay FCS

CCG This week
Northwestern #18. -- Tulsa #22


Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

And you can keep going...why is 2-loss Georgia ahead of Cincinnati? Whom have they beaten?

Record: 7-2 --- Record 8-0
Georgia Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Auburn #27 -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Kentucky #60 -- Memphis #50
Tennessee #68 -- SMU #51
Arkansas #75 -- Houston #62
Mississippi St #91 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
BAD LOSSES to top teams -- W over Austin Peay FCS

And 8-2 Florida? Whom have the Gators beaten?
Record: 8-2 --- Record 8-0
Florida Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Georgia # 9 CFP -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Mississippi #54 -- Memphis #50
Kentucky #60 -- SMU #51
Tennessee #68 -- Houston #62
Arkansas #75 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
Vanderbilt #120 -- Austin Peay FCS
Loss to 4-5 LSU
Loss to Texas A&M

Only better win is the Georgia team whose schedule I dissected above. Does that outweigh 2 losses? Including to a 4-5 team at home?

Forever already mentioned Iowa State (quickly enough that my error in UGA from copying OSU's sked is still in the quote box).

Yes wins over Oklahoma and Texas are #11 and #19 in Massey Composite, and TCU is even #21...but the rest:
L to #21 Oklahoma State and L to #20 Louisiana...2-2 vs top 20 should put you, around, I don't know, 20?
Wins over: #41 WVU, #70 KState, #83 Texas Tech, #86 Baylor, #122 Kansas

That's an 8-2 #6 in the nation resume?

Texas A&M's wins:
Florida, Auburn #27, LSU #42, Arkansas #75, Mississippi State #91, South Carolina#101, Vanderbilt #120,

(12-16-2020 11:45 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:39 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:00 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  I like it even better when you compare best against best, second best against second best etc...

Record: 5-0. --- Record 8-0
OSU Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Indiana #10. -- UCF #25
Penn St #46. -- Army #48
Nebraska #77 -- Memphis #50
Michigan St #80 -- SMU #51
Rutgers #85 -- Houston #62
Nobody -- ECU #94
Nobody -- USF #116
Nobody -- Austin Peay FCS

CCG This week
Northwestern #18. -- Tulsa #22


Top 25: Two. -- Top 25: Two
Top 50: Two. -- Top 50: Four
Top 75: Two. -- Top 75: Six
Over Top 75: Three -- Over Top 75: Three
Over Top 100: Zero. -- Over Top 100: One
Total Games: Six. -- Total Games: Nine
Avg Opp: Six for 52.6 -- Avg Opp: Eight for 46

And you can keep going...why is 2-loss Georgia ahead of Cincinnati? Whom have they beaten?

Record: 7-2 --- Record 8-0
Georgia Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Auburn #27 -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Kentucky #60 -- Memphis #50
Tennessee #68 -- SMU #51
Arkansas #75 -- Houston #62
Mississippi St #91 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
BAD LOSSES to top teams -- W over Austin Peay FCS

And 8-2 Florida? Whom have the Gators beaten?
Record: 8-2 --- Record 8-0
Florida Schedule: ------ Cincinnati Schedule:
Georgia # 9 CFP -- UCF #25
Missouri #47. -- Army #48
Mississippi #54 -- Memphis #50
Kentucky #60 -- SMU #51
Tennessee #68 -- Houston #62
Arkansas #75 -- ECU #94
South Carolina #101 -- USF #116
Vanderbilt #120 -- Austin Peay FCS
Loss to 4-5 LSU
Loss to Texas A&M

Only better win is the Georgia team whose schedule I dissected above. Does that outweigh 2 losses? Including to a 4-5 team at home?

Forever already mentioned Iowa State (quickly enough that my error in UGA from copying OSU's sked is still in the quote box).

Yes wins over Oklahoma and Texas are #11 and #19 in Massey Composite, and TCU is even #21...but the rest:
L to #21 Oklahoma State and L to #20 Louisiana...2-2 vs top 20 should put you, around, I don't know, 20?
Wins over: #41 WVU, #70 KState, #83 Texas Tech, #86 Baylor, #122 Kansas

That's an 8-2 #6 in the nation resume?

Texas A&M's wins:
Florida, Auburn #27, LSU #42, Arkansas #75, Mississippi State #91, South Carolina#101, Vanderbilt #120,

Wow this is even worse than it first looked. That's five victories for Cincinnati better than half off AnM, OSU, and ISU, and Georgia's win total, it will be six if they beat Tulsa. This is the argument the P5 tries to use against us every year, that we don't play enough tough games. But 2/3rds of Cincinnati's schedule is better than nearly every team in front of them and they have zero losses, while two teams have one loss with comparable or worse schedule strengths and all the two loss teams have weaker schedules.

You'd think that Forever and Quo would be best friends... Both are laughing at UC for falling to #9...

By-the-way, #9 is no coincidence. As long as the...ahem!...committee can keep the top g5 team safely out of the "Top 8," when the inevitable discussion starts on "expanding" the CFP field, they will have their grounds to not include the g programs in that discussion. The...ahem!...committee absolutely NEEDED to drop UC to #9, whether we played last week or not. And they would have anyway, based on some pretext or another.

It.
Is.
A.
Rigged.
Game.

(12-16-2020 11:54 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  You'd think that Forever and Quo would be best friends... Both are laughing at UC for falling to #9...

By-the-way, #9 is no coincidence. As long as the...ahem!...committee can keep the top g5 team safely out of the "Top 8," when the inevitable discussion starts on "expanding" the CFP field, they will have their grounds to not include the g programs in that discussion. The...ahem!...committee absolutely NEEDED to drop UC to #9, whether we played last week or not. And they would have anyway, based on some pretext or another.

It.
Is.
A.
Rigged.
Game.

I'm laughing at UC for knowing it was rigged and still going along, because it means they avoid the chance they might lose and then lose the NY6. I'm laughing at Aresco and our conference not being smart enough to wait till after the rankings last week to announce it was cancelled. It's a clown show all the way around, you all just played a tiny part, Aresco put on the make-up but it was the committee who piled out of the car.

Tulsa already knew how this would work out which is why you don't hear us crying that we aren't in position to get a NY6 bid with a win even though we have one loss on the road to a top 25 teams and a solid record against good teams that really just needs a top end victory.

Referring to the OP, be glad Tulsa, the only reason you're still ranked at all is because you didn't lose to Cincy last week.

(12-17-2020 12:10 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Referring to the OP, be glad Tulsa, the only reason you're still ranked at all is because you didn't lose to Cincy last week.

Lol Memphis

I'm confused... does Foreverandever hate us or not?

(12-17-2020 12:14 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  I'm confused... does Foreverandever hate us or not?

In red:

(12-17-2020 12:03 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 11:54 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  You'd think that Forever and Quo would be best friends... Both are laughing at UC for falling to #9...

By-the-way, #9 is no coincidence. As long as the...ahem!...committee can keep the top g5 team safely out of the "Top 8," when the inevitable discussion starts on "expanding" the CFP field, they will have their grounds to not include the g programs in that discussion. The...ahem!...committee absolutely NEEDED to drop UC to #9, whether we played last week or not. And they would have anyway, based on some pretext or another.

It.
Is.
A.
Rigged.
Game.

I'm laughing at UC for knowing it was rigged and still going along, because it means they avoid the chance they might lose and then lose the NY6. I'm laughing at Aresco and our conference not being smart enough to wait till after the rankings last week to announce it was cancelled. It's a clown show all the way around, you all just played a tiny part, Aresco put on the make-up but it was the committee who piled out of the car.

Tulsa already knew how this would work out which is why you don't hear us crying that we aren't in position to get a NY6 bid with a win even though we have one loss on the road to a top 25 teams and a solid record against good teams that really just needs a top end victory.

As I pointed out to another bearcats fan, the melts on here have been hilarious, all from a laughing emoji and a statement of fact. It is quite possibly the easiest thing I have done on this board, and behold.............

(12-16-2020 10:24 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(12-16-2020 10:06 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  yup this again... navy will never play for a cfp championship, so kinda stuck in purgatory, stay as we are and play for nothing or cast off on our own and play for fcs
take the blue pill and believe what you want to believe
me i’ll take the red pill and follow the rabbit hole for what it’s worth because i hate being at half mast...

If your problem is being at half-mast, I have heard that those are the little BLUE pills.

Never had that problem myself, so I feel sorry for you.

lol, no never had to take a little blue pill so no need to feel sorry for me

(12-15-2020 07:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-15-2020 07:21 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Eh... Rigged game.

I knew they would never rank Florida behind Cincinnati.

We would have probably been dropped to 10 if we had played Tulsa. We could beat Tulsa by 100 and it still wouldn't help UC's perception. And then Tulsa would have been unranked for this week...and then UC really suffers.

Sorry Tulsa, it is what it is.

This^^^^^

Ive been saying for years the non-power schools will never see the playoff in the current configuration. You have about a dozen or so on the Committee, and all but a couple are strongly tied to the P5. They meet...they talk...they reach a "consensus" (in other words--they cut a deal or compromise), and then, once they have decided who's getting in---they only then think up some stat that would have all 4 in the final top 4. If no stat supports those 4---they break out the "eye test" metric which can mean anything they want it to. This heavy P5 bias in the committee weighting is why the only way a G5 makes it to the playoff when it expands to 8 is if the 5-1-2 system is adopted.....and frankly this year may be the best argument for the 5-1-2 there's ever been.

This^^^
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(12-15-2020 07:21 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  Eh... Rigged game.

I knew they would never rank Florida behind Cincinnati.

We would have probably been dropped to 10 if we had played Tulsa. We could beat Tulsa by 100 and it still wouldn't help UC's perception. And then Tulsa would have been unranked for this week...and then UC really suffers.

Sorry Tulsa, it is what it is.

Agreeing a little too late. You are dead on.

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