(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:No Special Forces soldiers were killed while seizing computer servers in Germany as part of a CIA operation after the presidential election. There was, in fact, no mission of the sort.

And members of the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion are not "the Kraken" that an attorney for President Donald Trump said last month she'd be unleashing. The unit is not involved in any post-election missions supporting the White House -- a move that would be highly unlikely considering it's an entry-level training battalion where new soldiers who haven't yet picked up their military occupational specialty are assigned.

"The allegations are false," an Army official told Military.com.

Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Is this statement from an official spokesperson for the unit? No

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:No Special Forces soldiers were killed while seizing computer servers in Germany as part of a CIA operation after the presidential election. There was, in fact, no mission of the sort.

And members of the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion are not "the Kraken" that an attorney for President Donald Trump said last month she'd be unleashing. The unit is not involved in any post-election missions supporting the White House -- a move that would be highly unlikely considering it's an entry-level training battalion where new soldiers who haven't yet picked up their military occupational specialty are assigned.

"The allegations are false," an Army official told Military.com.

Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Any particular reason your US Army source doesn't want to be quoted on the record? If such an outrageous allegation is untrue, I'd think the top brass would be rushing to a bank of microphones to shut the story down immediately.

(12-02-2020 01:13 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:No Special Forces soldiers were killed while seizing computer servers in Germany as part of a CIA operation after the presidential election. There was, in fact, no mission of the sort.

And members of the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion are not "the Kraken" that an attorney for President Donald Trump said last month she'd be unleashing. The unit is not involved in any post-election missions supporting the White House -- a move that would be highly unlikely considering it's an entry-level training battalion where new soldiers who haven't yet picked up their military occupational specialty are assigned.

"The allegations are false," an Army official told Military.com.

Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Any particular reason your US Army source doesn't want to be quoted on the record? If such an outrageous allegation is untrue, I'd think the top brass would be rushing to a bank of microphones to shut the story down immediately.

If top military brass rushed to the microphone to debunk every wild ass conspiracy theory that surfaced involving the military that would be their full time duty.

(12-02-2020 01:06 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:No Special Forces soldiers were killed while seizing computer servers in Germany as part of a CIA operation after the presidential election. There was, in fact, no mission of the sort.

And members of the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion are not "the Kraken" that an attorney for President Donald Trump said last month she'd be unleashing. The unit is not involved in any post-election missions supporting the White House -- a move that would be highly unlikely considering it's an entry-level training battalion where new soldiers who haven't yet picked up their military occupational specialty are assigned.

"The allegations are false," an Army official told Military.com.

Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Is this statement from an official spokesperson for the unit? No

Is your statement that this happened from an official spokesperson for the army or US government?

This isn’t an argument that you want to apply rules of evidence and official sources against. Your source has been retired for 26 years, I’m pretty sure he isn’t an official spokesperson for anything.

(12-02-2020 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:06 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:No Special Forces soldiers were killed while seizing computer servers in Germany as part of a CIA operation after the presidential election. There was, in fact, no mission of the sort.

And members of the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion are not "the Kraken" that an attorney for President Donald Trump said last month she'd be unleashing. The unit is not involved in any post-election missions supporting the White House -- a move that would be highly unlikely considering it's an entry-level training battalion where new soldiers who haven't yet picked up their military occupational specialty are assigned.

"The allegations are false," an Army official told Military.com.

Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Is this statement from an official spokesperson for the unit? No

Is your statement that this happened from an official spokesperson for the army or US government?

This isn’t an argument that you want to apply rules of evidence and official sources against. Your source has been retired for 26 years, I’m pretty sure he isn’t an official spokesperson for anything.

Did you read the article RWT posted? I'm thinking you didn't because of what you Posted. In RWT article it says,

" A retired Air Force three-star general reignited baseless conspiratorial claims about U.S. troops' involvement in clandestine missions in the wake of the presidential election -- claims an Army official said are 100% false.

The Air Force General is retired but won't give his name. Give me a Break.

(12-02-2020 01:56 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:06 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:No Special Forces soldiers were killed while seizing computer servers in Germany as part of a CIA operation after the presidential election. There was, in fact, no mission of the sort.

And members of the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion are not "the Kraken" that an attorney for President Donald Trump said last month she'd be unleashing. The unit is not involved in any post-election missions supporting the White House -- a move that would be highly unlikely considering it's an entry-level training battalion where new soldiers who haven't yet picked up their military occupational specialty are assigned.

"The allegations are false," an Army official told Military.com.

Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Is this statement from an official spokesperson for the unit? No

Is your statement that this happened from an official spokesperson for the army or US government?

This isn’t an argument that you want to apply rules of evidence and official sources against. Your source has been retired for 26 years, I’m pretty sure he isn’t an official spokesperson for anything.

Did you read the article RWT posted? I'm thinking you didn't because of what you Posted. In RWT article it says,

" A retired Air Force three-star general reignited baseless conspiratorial claims about U.S. troops' involvement in clandestine missions in the wake of the presidential election -- claims an Army official said are 100% false.

The Air Force General is retired but won't give his name. Give me a Break.

Ummm...dude...read again. The retired guy they are talking about is your old general.

(12-02-2020 01:16 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:13 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:No Special Forces soldiers were killed while seizing computer servers in Germany as part of a CIA operation after the presidential election. There was, in fact, no mission of the sort.

And members of the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion are not "the Kraken" that an attorney for President Donald Trump said last month she'd be unleashing. The unit is not involved in any post-election missions supporting the White House -- a move that would be highly unlikely considering it's an entry-level training battalion where new soldiers who haven't yet picked up their military occupational specialty are assigned.

"The allegations are false," an Army official told Military.com.

Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Any particular reason your US Army source doesn't want to be quoted on the record? If such an outrageous allegation is untrue, I'd think the top brass would be rushing to a bank of microphones to shut the story down immediately.

If top military brass rushed to the microphone to debunk every wild ass conspiracy theory that surfaced involving the military that would be their full time duty.

First off, this isn't your every day wild ass conspiracy. This operation would play out on a need to know bases.

(12-02-2020 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:56 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:06 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Is this statement from an official spokesperson for the unit? No

Is your statement that this happened from an official spokesperson for the army or US government?

This isn’t an argument that you want to apply rules of evidence and official sources against. Your source has been retired for 26 years, I’m pretty sure he isn’t an official spokesperson for anything.

Did you read the article RWT posted? I'm thinking you didn't because of what you Posted. In RWT article it says,

" A retired Air Force three-star general reignited baseless conspiratorial claims about U.S. troops' involvement in clandestine missions in the wake of the presidential election -- claims an Army official said are 100% false.

The Air Force General is retired but won't give his name. Give me a Break.

Ummm...dude...read again. The retired guy they are talking about is your old general.

So the guy making the accusation is NAMED and the guy that says it didnt happen is UNNAMED.

yea right. How many times have you guys been burned by unnamed sources?

Everytime.

(12-02-2020 02:02 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  First off, this isn't your every day wild ass conspiracy. This operation would play out on a need to know bases.

Lol.

Need to know bases....

Lol.

Thanks for that.

(12-02-2020 02:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:56 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:06 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  Is this statement from an official spokesperson for the unit? No

Is your statement that this happened from an official spokesperson for the army or US government?

This isn’t an argument that you want to apply rules of evidence and official sources against. Your source has been retired for 26 years, I’m pretty sure he isn’t an official spokesperson for anything.

Did you read the article RWT posted? I'm thinking you didn't because of what you Posted. In RWT article it says,

" A retired Air Force three-star general reignited baseless conspiratorial claims about U.S. troops' involvement in clandestine missions in the wake of the presidential election -- claims an Army official said are 100% false.

The Air Force General is retired but won't give his name. Give me a Break.

Ummm...dude...read again. The retired guy they are talking about is your old general.

So the guy making the accusation is NAMED and the guy that says it didnt happen is UNNAMED.

yea right. How many times have you guys been burned by unnamed sources?

Everytime.

Is he the official spokesperson of the army or JSOC? That's the standard you guys laid out up thread.

Yes, he gave his name. Yes, he is crazy as all get out.

Reading too much tom clancy if you believe this load of bull.

(12-02-2020 02:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:56 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:18 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:06 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Is this statement from an official spokesperson for the unit? No

Is your statement that this happened from an official spokesperson for the army or US government?

This isn’t an argument that you want to apply rules of evidence and official sources against. Your source has been retired for 26 years, I’m pretty sure he isn’t an official spokesperson for anything.

Did you read the article RWT posted? I'm thinking you didn't because of what you Posted. In RWT article it says,

" A retired Air Force three-star general reignited baseless conspiratorial claims about U.S. troops' involvement in clandestine missions in the wake of the presidential election -- claims an Army official said are 100% false.

The Air Force General is retired but won't give his name. Give me a Break.

Ummm...dude...read again. The retired guy they are talking about is your old general.

Thanks RWT, I didn't have my glasses on when I looked at that. I should have said,

claims an Army official said are 100% false. Another unnamed source.

(12-02-2020 02:02 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:16 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:13 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:No Special Forces soldiers were killed while seizing computer servers in Germany as part of a CIA operation after the presidential election. There was, in fact, no mission of the sort.

And members of the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion are not "the Kraken" that an attorney for President Donald Trump said last month she'd be unleashing. The unit is not involved in any post-election missions supporting the White House -- a move that would be highly unlikely considering it's an entry-level training battalion where new soldiers who haven't yet picked up their military occupational specialty are assigned.

"The allegations are false," an Army official told Military.com.

Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Any particular reason your US Army source doesn't want to be quoted on the record? If such an outrageous allegation is untrue, I'd think the top brass would be rushing to a bank of microphones to shut the story down immediately.

If top military brass rushed to the microphone to debunk every wild ass conspiracy theory that surfaced involving the military that would be their full time duty.

First off, this isn't your every day wild ass conspiracy. This operation would play out on a need to know bases.

Sure thing Q.

(12-02-2020 02:09 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 02:02 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  First off, this isn't your every day wild ass conspiracy. This operation would play out on a need to know bases.

Lol.

Need to know bases....

Lol.

Thanks for that.

You're welcome

(12-02-2020 02:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 02:02 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:16 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 01:13 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 10:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Army Hits Back Against False Claim that Soldiers Died in CIA Op to Nab Election Servers

Any particular reason your US Army source doesn't want to be quoted on the record? If such an outrageous allegation is untrue, I'd think the top brass would be rushing to a bank of microphones to shut the story down immediately.

If top military brass rushed to the microphone to debunk every wild ass conspiracy theory that surfaced involving the military that would be their full time duty.

First off, this isn't your every day wild ass conspiracy. This operation would play out on a need to know bases.

Sure thing Q.

You need to wake up RWT, don't go to sleep on me now.

(11-29-2020 09:59 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Trump's own words on tape told his lawyer that Stormy Daniels need to be paid to keep her quiet. That was not made up. That there along Trump could be in trouble for campaign financial fraud. It was like the same issue with John Edwards trying to keep woman quiet for an extra-maritial affair.

Meh... significant confirmation bias you're engaging in here.

John Edward's affair took place while he was in office and while campaigning for President. He also fathered a child with her, meaning that the issue wasn't solely about the affair as it was for say Clinton, but about an ongoing issue... a child. Like Clinton, it DID involve a subordinate which was also different from Trump and a relevant political issue. I don't believe anything ever came of the allegations of campaign financial fraud, so the comparison is apt, but a non-issue. You can accuse someone of anything.

Edwards' issues were not really that similar to Trump's. Trump wasn't holding himself and his family out as 'America's First Family' while fathering a child with Stormy on the side as Edwards did

Trump's relationship was 10 years prior and was solely a 'professional' one. While certainly tawdry... and of course any time money is involved with 'smut', allegations will fly... but not remotely the same as Edwards' from a political perspective. He wasn't her subordinate... he didn't hold a public office... she didn't father his child during the campaign and she had signed an NDA. The decision to pay to 'shut her up' was clearly one of expedience for an embarrassing, but otherwise meaningless issue.

In yesterdays Arizona hearing, Information Warfare Specialist Colonel Phil Waldron, testified that they monitored Dominion sending data to Scytl servers in Frankfurt on November 3rd :

(12-02-2020 03:47 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  In yesterdays Arizona hearing, Information Warfare Specialist Colonel Phil Waldron, testified that they monitored Dominion sending data to Scytl servers in Frankfurt on November 3rd :

Sure he did.

What method does a retired private citizen have to observe traffic on the internet?

The NSA had to create secret rooms at internet backbone providers to observe source and destination traffic, but this retired private citizen can do it from his house. He should sell his method to someone like the NSA.

(12-02-2020 04:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 03:47 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  In yesterdays Arizona hearing, Information Warfare Specialist Colonel Phil Waldron, testified that they monitored Dominion sending data to Scytl servers in Frankfurt on November 3rd :

Sure he did.

What method does a retired private citizen have to observe traffic on the internet?

The NSA had to create secret rooms at internet backbone providers to observe source and destination traffic, but this retired private citizen can do it from his house. He should sell his method to someone like the NSA.

Phil Waldron, a cybersecurity expert and retired Army Colonel, dealing with intelligence and information warfare for some 30 years.

So he's retired and you think he's out of the Game?

I have a question for you. Do you know what makes a computer work. You know it's programmed to do what you want it to do. And if you look at the Code, you can tell what's going on.

(12-02-2020 04:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 03:47 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  In yesterdays Arizona hearing, Information Warfare Specialist Colonel Phil Waldron, testified that they monitored Dominion sending data to Scytl servers in Frankfurt on November 3rd :

Sure he did.

What method does a retired private citizen have to observe traffic on the internet?

The NSA had to create secret rooms at internet backbone providers to observe source and destination traffic, but this retired private citizen can do it from his house. He should sell his method to someone like the NSA.

The left can't secure an email server. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they logged all the internet traffic.

(12-02-2020 04:57 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 04:00 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(12-02-2020 03:47 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  In yesterdays Arizona hearing, Information Warfare Specialist Colonel Phil Waldron, testified that they monitored Dominion sending data to Scytl servers in Frankfurt on November 3rd :

Sure he did.

What method does a retired private citizen have to observe traffic on the internet?

The NSA had to create secret rooms at internet backbone providers to observe source and destination traffic, but this retired private citizen can do it from his house. He should sell his method to someone like the NSA.

Phil Waldron, a cybersecurity expert and retired Army Colonel, dealing with intelligence and information warfare for some 30 years.

So he's retired and you think he's out of the Game?

I have a question for you. Do you know what makes a computer work. You know it's programmed to do what you want it to do. And if you look at the Code, you can tell what's going on.

So you think he looked at the code to know what’s going on? You think the source code of a website (he was looking at dominionvoting.com) contains information about the clients connected to it.

Go ahead and explain yourself if you know so much about it. What code did he look at, and how could he tell it was connecting fo Frankfurt?